Popular Post jucel Posted February 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2014 Why are people taking children to these protests? I have a five year old daughter and therefore those pictures of her in the hospital hit me pretty hard. I remember in 2010, people holding screaming babies above barricades in Bangkok. Leave the kids at home! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patpending Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 It's amazing that this happened at 9:30 last night and that there is still so little news on it. If you watched anything other than Nation media you would have seen it reported on every single news outlet everywhere. Details are always sketchy and there was an even bigger gang of men in black 3 car loads out burning houses and killing people in Yala again. Army in charge there and even less effective than they would be up here trying to supress the country into accepting a dictator. Number always change. Some die later of wounds, and some with light injuries may not have sought treatment immediately... eg if they were looking for relatives or had a loved one injured. How can you complain about stats at a time like this when things are influx. Why don't you post us a list of news outlets NOT reporting on it and we'll belive you. I saw it everywhere all night on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crushdepth Posted February 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2014 Trat?!?! I thought all the anti-government protesters were rich elite in Bangkok or radical Deep Southerners according to several TV experts. Sad to say!When they stray out of their stronghold of Bangkok, and attempt to recreate in other parts of the country the havoc they created in Bangkok under the protection of the Rich E.E allies, they will be met with resistance, Cheers Resistance? Is that what you call it kikoman? More like attempted mass murder at a peaceful rally. You disgust me!One of the victims was a child shot in the head. Kikoman bow your head in shame and don't bother to return! The problem stems from the armed insurrectin in Bangkok, whee we have a few hundred protesters holding the city hostage and they are protected by a few hundred guards and a fully armed forces batallion. The police have been banned by the courts from arresting them, holding them or preventing them blocking roads, threatening business and offices. Then Suthep is taunting them that if anybody does anything agains him, his popcorn warriers have popcorn waiting for them., No surprise that some on the extremes take it upon themselves to act. Anarchy that Suthep creates, cuts both ways. Want no laws? have the courts negate laws for you? Bring in Army unitls to ensure law not enforeced and then taunt the ruling party who have by far greater numbers than PDRC? Suthep was clearly taunting them yesterday and some of the hardline obviously took him up on it. We saw the Popcorn warriors girls lined up and everybody on PDRC thought it very funny and clever when they were the ones doing the shooting. Then don't expect your opponants to play by the law in that case. The people who did this are animals. There is no excuse. Sent from somewhere in the Pacific 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphodbeeblebrox Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Why are people taking children to these protests? I have a five year old daughter and therefore those pictures of her in the hospital hit me pretty hard. I remember in 2010, people holding screaming babies above barricades in Bangkok. Leave the kids at home! The attack occurred at a marketplace. Some of the injured and killed were at a noodle stand in the marketplace. Thai media is reporting the 8 year old was killed by a "stray bullet". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Siripon Posted February 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2014 Trat?!?! I thought all the anti-government protesters were rich elite in Bangkok or radical Deep Southerners according to several TV experts. Sad to say!When they stray out of their stronghold of Bangkok, and attempt to recreate in other parts of the country the havoc they created in Bangkok under the protection of the Rich E.E allies, they will be met with resistance, Cheers One of the most abhorrent comments I've ever read on thaivisa- an 8 year old girl is shot in the head , dies and you write the above nonsense.You should feel very guilty. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Trat is only 4 hours away from Korat where the ever peace-loving UDD are being entertained by the never incendiary Jatuporn 'let Bangkok burn' Prompan and Tida 'fake farmers' Thavornset. But of course the 'at least 35 people injured' (Associated Press) must have shot and bombed themselves. Quite pathetic attempt at linkage. Can you not try and put aside your fanaticism when tragic events like this occur. Why don't you spare a while to put your thoughts towards the dead and injured instead of towards how best to exploit the situation to score cheap political points. Pathetic and disgusting attitude. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted February 23, 2014 Author Share Posted February 23, 2014 Why are people taking children to these protests? I have a five year old daughter and therefore those pictures of her in the hospital hit me pretty hard. I remember in 2010, people holding screaming babies above barricades in Bangkok. Leave the kids at home! RT@RichardBarrow: Some people have criticized parents for taking children to a political rally. However, some of the injured were at a nearby noodle stall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique355 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Trat?!?! I thought all the anti-government protesters were rich elite in Bangkok or radical Deep Southerners according to several TV experts. Sad to say! When they stray out of their stronghold of Bangkok, and attempt to recreate in other parts of the country the havoc they created in Bangkok under the protection of the Rich E.E allies, they will be met with resistance, Cheers Kikoman, you very obviously have no clue what you are talking about. Get out of your bedroom and have a look at the real world in Thailand! Many people from Trat, one of the poorest and most neglected provinces in the whole of Thailand, where people still have common sense and see through Yingluck's and Thaksin's lies, have come to Bangkok repeatedly to express their opposition to the corrupt Shinawatra regime. The demonstration in Trat was organized by the people of Trat and the demonstrators were people from Trat. More than likely the explosive device was thrown in the middle of the demonstrators by people trying to defend the Shinawatra government and fighting the opposition. So more than likely, the bomb thrower came form outside Trat. So who is creating havoc outside Bangkok? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGP Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 On this series of Red-Shirt Cartoons you can see how they promote violence against those who think different than them. Yesterday we saw the results More here: http://pantip.com/topic/30746057 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Patpending Posted February 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2014 Trat?!?! I thought all the anti-government protesters were rich elite in Bangkok or radical Deep Southerners according to several TV experts. Sad to say!When they stray out of their stronghold of Bangkok, and attempt to recreate in other parts of the country the havoc they created in Bangkok under the protection of the Rich E.E allies, they will be met with resistance, Cheers The Goon Squad Apologist strikes again. What really pisses me off is that in the last 2-3 months a large number of Thaksin supporters have joined TV and spout their message in a troll like fashion. Almost as if they were on a pay per post plan. These newbies are driving me nuts. The mods should have a look at this. teacher teacher... theres somebody I don't like in the forum Many of us have real lives to get on with, children to school and money to make. Other than when some nut job trys to stage a coup, we have sufficient going on in our lives to not engage in banal converstions on a daily basis with cry babies like you. I for one, will not sit by in real life on on internet and watch a situation arise where my children could be faced with the prospect of a lifetime of living under Suthep and his Sons next generation of old thinking thai fascism. Our views are as valued as yours and if you just want to hang out with people you agree with, you are a big part of the problem, Thai visa is not going to throw off half its members as the post count falls and you babies post less as you argue less and in the end, advertising revenue drop. you also flaming away this am to manoo, but we are big enough not to report your posts for this... If it is driving you nuts, try to post more sensibly, or just ignore us. To make it easy for you I'll stop responding to guff from you, whyask, ale g, and the other whiners. When the coup attempt is dead, i for one will stop reading news, tweeing so much and hanging out on Pantip. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AleG Posted February 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2014 Why are people taking children to these protests? I have a five year old daughter and therefore those pictures of her in the hospital hit me pretty hard. I remember in 2010, people holding screaming babies above barricades in Bangkok. Leave the kids at home! The attack occurred at a marketplace. Some of the injured and killed were at a noodle stand in the marketplace. Thai media is reporting the 8 year old was killed by a "stray bullet". There are no stray bullets when someone fires into a crowd. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gweiloman Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 This was ordered from Dubai. Stupid post that does nothing to ease the situation. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post iancnx Posted February 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2014 From Thai PBS - stating the speaker on stage in Trat at the time was Japong. Quote// Japong was a former red shirt in the northeast and strong supporter of fugitive ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra. But he said on the PDRC stage in Bangkok recently he pulled out after he had aware of his insincerity and disrespect of the justice system of the country. // No coincidence here. Clearly a targeted attack. I am guessing one doesn't need to look too far to find out who issued the order. This needs to stop very very quickly or we will surely have a crisis of massive proportions. If it builds a head of steam this kind of terrorism will take years to suppress. Unfortunately red terrorists will undoubtedly be met with yellow terrorists. This is the most serious time now and requires some statesman like leadership from all parties. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post englishoak Posted February 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) Sad to say!When they stray out of their stronghold of Bangkok, and attempt to recreate in other parts of the country the havoc they created in Bangkok under the protection of the Rich E.E allies, they will be met with resistance, Cheers Resistance? Is that what you call it kikoman? More like attempted mass murder at a peaceful rally. You disgust me!One of the victims was a child shot in the head. Kikoman bow your head in shame and don't bother to return! The problem stems from the armed insurrectin in Bangkok, whee we have a few hundred protesters holding the city hostage and they are protected by a few hundred guards and a fully armed forces batallion. The police have been banned by the courts from arresting them, holding them or preventing them blocking roads, threatening business and offices. Then Suthep is taunting them that if anybody does anything agains him, his popcorn warriers have popcorn waiting for them., No surprise that some on the extremes take it upon themselves to act. Anarchy that Suthep creates, cuts both ways. Want no laws? have the courts negate laws for you? Bring in Army unitls to ensure law not enforeced and then taunt the ruling party who have by far greater numbers than PDRC? Suthep was clearly taunting them yesterday and some of the hardline obviously took him up on it. We saw the Popcorn warriors girls lined up and everybody on PDRC thought it very funny and clever when they were the ones doing the shooting. Then don't expect your opponants to play by the law in that case. You are justifying the murder of 5 innocent people, including an 8 year old girl. Do humanity a favour, crawl under a rock and never come out again. Alec he is being philosophical and he has already condemned it, as any of us should there is no excuse but there is a reason behind this. When the rule of law and system fails the people and repeatedly does so then that is when radicals rise and anarchy reigns. This whole thing is reminiscent of other troubles here, the deep south, 2010 etc it all points to the same thing.... a failed system thats been failing for decades. IMO the blatant failure of the civil court to recognise the protest being violent when at times we all know it is set this stage and Suthep has with others been taunting.... This is i believe the result, sick radicals just itching to show off and send a reply, just like has been going on in the south. Totally despicable but these things dont just happen for no reason, it has to be acknowledged terrible as it is this protest and all involved on both sides are responsible for people being killed. Suthep has been pushing things right into the radicals arms and so are the court. If people feel they have no justice or voice they will seek it out for themselves and there are some real radical nut jobs here, of BOTH colour persuasion some even military. We see this in the south all the time ongoing, the rest of the country is just as tightly sprung and if it unwinds no way will the army be able to control it nationwide before a lot lot more are killed. Thailand MUST face this and face it soon, everyone needs to step back from the brink now and Yingluck AND Abhisit AND Suthep MUST ALL condemn absolutely and without reserve ALL violence and killing or injuring of Thais no matter who is doing it but especially their own camps, it must cease if there is to be any chance at all, we are on a a very slippery slope now. Blame dosnt matter for now only dialogue and roundly condemning from all sides would take it down a level tension wise. Thats what is needed right now not next week not silence and not goading but genuine concern condemning and standing as Thai leaders as one on this. Can they ? will they ? i hope so but this is not a know Thai trait. Edited February 23, 2014 by englishoak 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gweiloman Posted February 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2014 Trat?!?! I thought all the anti-government protesters were rich elite in Bangkok or radical Deep Southerners according to several TV experts. Sad to say!When they stray out of their stronghold of Bangkok, and attempt to recreate in other parts of the country the havoc they created in Bangkok under the protection of the Rich E.E allies, they will be met with resistance, Cheers That sums up your morals. I'm sure even your parents would disown you. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app For the record, even though I lean towards PT government policies, I condemn these sort of violence and hope that the injured will recover quickly and that loved ones will also recover from their extreme emotional distress. I understand also the outpouring of anger from some TV posters towards what they consider vile and sick posts. However, looking at some of these "vile and sick" posts, I don't read them as justifying the violence but instead, explaining the actions. No government in the world can control small groups of radicals and extremists. In the case of Thailand, the courts, the army, CC, EC etc etc have rendered the government even more powerless. Whilst this was being done, the anti govt supporters here on TV were cheering and congratulating each other. You have obviously not seen beyond the day to this day, to the reactions of some small groups of anti-protestors. I will not take a leaf out of jollyman but instead put here a Chinese saying - "if you force a tiger into a corner, the tiger can no longer retreat and have no choice but to attack". If like some of you think, that the govt is on the back foot (not through the ballot box but through court manipulations), then this is not unexpected. I have said previously that if PT is ousted via a judicial coup, then the current protests are child's play compared to what will inevitably happen. p/s: sorry if above not too clear, have a massage appointment in 10 mins, so rushing this 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonao Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 This attack is of course despicable, but like all things there is cause and effect and the attack needs to be put into context. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post robblok Posted February 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2014 This attack is of course despicable, but like all things there is cause and effect and the attack needs to be put into context. Cause Taksin, effect wounded and death.. just like before. I hope that is clear enough for you. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AleG Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 You are justifying the murder of 5 innocent people, including an 8 year old girl. Do humanity a favour, crawl under a rock and never come out again. Alec he is being philosophical and he has already condemned it, as any of us should there is no excuse but there is a reason behind this. When the rule of law and system fails the people and repeatedly does so then that is when radicals rise and anarchy reigns. This whole thing is reminiscent of other troubles here, the deep south, 2010 etc it all points to the same thing.... a failed system thats been failing for decades. IMO the blatant failure of the civil court to recognise the protest being violent when at times we all know it is set this stage and Suthep has with others been taunting.... This is i believe the result, sick radicals just itching to show off and send a reply, just like has been going on in the south. Totally despicable but these things dont just happen for no reason, it has to be acknowledged terrible as it is this protest and all involved on both sides are responsible for people being killed. Suthep has been pushing things right into the radicals arms and so are the court. If people feel they have no justice or voice they will seek it out for themselves and there are some real radical nut jobs here, of BOTH colour persuasion some even military. We see this in the south all the time ongoing, the rest of the country is just as tightly sprung and if it unwinds no way will the army be able to control it nationwide before a lot lot more are killed. Thailand MUST face this and face it soon, everyone needs to step back from the brink now and Yingluck AND Abhisit AND Suthep MUST ALL condemn absolutely and without reserve ALL violence and killing or injuring of Thais no matter who is doing it but especially their own camps, it must cease if there is to be any chance at all, we are on a a very slippery slope now. Blame dosnt matter for now only dialogue and roundly condemning from all sides would take it down a level tension wise. Thats what is needed right now not next week not silence and not goading but genuine concern condemning and standing as Thai leaders as one on this. Can they ? will they ? i hope so but this is not a know Thai trait. The reason for this attacks is that those perpetrating them can operate with impunity, the police have shown no inclination to curb them, dozens of attacks, no arrests, no leads, nothing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post dominique355 Posted February 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2014 My reports from Trat describe the event as follows: The ralley was in that village on the main road from Chantaburi to Trat, where there is this intersection to turn right towards the airport and the ferry to Kho Chang. They had set up a stage and some speakers were addressing the people. No police anywhere to be seen. At 9:30 pm two simultaneous attacks occured, one from behind the stage (there is a rubber plantation behind the stage) and one from the main street. Hand grenades were thrown in the middle of people and gun fire from both sides mowing down people. Then the attackers jumped on their trucks and drove away. Three poeple dead including a young boy who was having a noodle soup with his mother. Many injured by the bullets and the bombs. This is pure terrorism to intimidate the opposition to the government. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphodbeeblebrox Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Why are people taking children to these protests? I have a five year old daughter and therefore those pictures of her in the hospital hit me pretty hard. I remember in 2010, people holding screaming babies above barricades in Bangkok. Leave the kids at home! The attack occurred at a marketplace. Some of the injured and killed were at a noodle stand in the marketplace. Thai media is reporting the 8 year old was killed by a "stray bullet". There are no stray bullets when someone fires into a crowd. I agree, but I think the media is trying to explain that the girl wasn't part of the rally which was the intended target of the attackers. And, under the "transferred intent" doctrine, the attackers still would be seen under the law as intending to have murdered a bystander. Not that the perpetrators will ever be identified, or brought to justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djjamie Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 This attack is of course despicable, but like all things there is cause and effect and the attack needs to be put into context. Can't give me that list of enemies can you? Didn't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich teacher Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 This attack is of course despicable, but like all things there is cause and effect and the attack needs to be put into context. Cause Taksin, effect wounded and death.. just like before. I hope that is clear enough for you. It is so painful having to read the junk you post among other more insightful posters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrtoad Posted February 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2014 Some of the posts in this thread are the worst I've seen on TV, with the advocating of violence and justification of it. The amount of Red Trolls has hit a new level. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fleeing Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Trat is only 4 hours away from Korat where the ever peace-loving UDD are being entertained by the never incendiary Jatuporn 'let Bangkok burn' Prompan and Tida 'fake farmers' Thavornset. But of course the 'at least 35 people injured' (Associated Press) must have shot and bombed themselves. Quite pathetic attempt at linkage. Can you not try and put aside your fanaticism when tragic events like this occur. Why don't you spare a while to put your thoughts towards the dead and injured instead of towards how best to exploit the situation to score cheap political points. Pathetic and disgusting attitude. Kettle calling pot! Do you really think it a coincidence that this attack has happened in a solidly Democrat area in the same weekend that the UDD have been gathered for a 'pep-talk' to 'beat the war-drum'? Or should we just put it down to 'PDRC fascists' on a weekend self-harm binge? I'm thankful that you aren't trying to defend this attack like your fellow-travellers, but your attempt to deflect attention from the very likely culprits is as thin as your supposed moral outrage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kratiam Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 This attack is of course despicable, but like all things there is cause and effect and the attack needs to be put into context. Cause Taksin, effect wounded and death.. just like before. I hope that is clear enough for you. It is so painful having to read the junk you post among other more insightful posters. In your opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakk9 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) Trat?!?! I thought all the anti-government protesters were rich elite in Bangkok or radical Deep Southerners according to several TV experts. Sad to say! When they stray out of their stronghold of Bangkok, and attempt to recreate in other parts of the country the havoc they created in Bangkok under the protection of the Rich E.E allies, they will be met with resistance, Cheers As weird as this post is, kikoman has a point. While the reds will accept anti-government demonstrations in the capital, they turn to violence when people in the provinces turn against them. This is a behavior they have shown earlier, although not as strongly as in this case. If the impression of massive support from the provinces vane, the whole concept of broad support for Thaksin will disappear. The cadres have to be kept in line, or else they must die. The great masters Pol Pot and Mao Zedong have shown how to do this. The reds of Thailand are just following their example. Edited February 23, 2014 by zakk9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Trat?!?!I thought all the anti-government protesters were rich elite in Bangkok or radical Deep Southerners according to several TV experts. Where I come from it is democrat territory four hrs nth of BKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique355 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Trat?!?! I thought all the anti-government protesters were rich elite in Bangkok or radical Deep Southerners according to several TV experts. Sad to say!When they stray out of their stronghold of Bangkok, and attempt to recreate in other parts of the country the havoc they created in Bangkok under the protection of the Rich E.E allies, they will be met with resistance, Cheers That sums up your morals. I'm sure even your parents would disown you. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app For the record, even though I lean towards PT government policies, I condemn these sort of violence and hope that the injured will recover quickly and that loved ones will also recover from their extreme emotional distress. I understand also the outpouring of anger from some TV posters towards what they consider vile and sick posts. However, looking at some of these "vile and sick" posts, I don't read them as justifying the violence but instead, explaining the actions. No government in the world can control small groups of radicals and extremists. In the case of Thailand, the courts, the army, CC, EC etc etc have rendered the government even more powerless. Whilst this was being done, the anti govt supporters here on TV were cheering and congratulating each other. You have obviously not seen beyond the day to this day, to the reactions of some small groups of anti-protestors. I will not take a leaf out of jollyman but instead put here a Chinese saying - "if you force a tiger into a corner, the tiger can no longer retreat and have no choice but to attack". If like some of you think, that the govt is on the back foot (not through the ballot box but through court manipulations), then this is not unexpected. I have said previously that if PT is ousted via a judicial coup, then the current protests are child's play compared to what will inevitably happen. p/s: sorry if above not too clear, have a massage appointment in 10 mins, so rushing this Basically what you appear to be saying is that the government is behind these attacks because it has been cornered and politics being a fight for eat or be eaten like in the jungle, these deadly attacks on the opposition are ... well ... normal and to be expected. Is that really the way a government in a democracy should behave? Kill or get killed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 So sad the entire scenario but children also, no words fit. Anyone wishing to help: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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