webfact Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Phuket boatmen block access to famed beachAnthika Muangrod The boatmen and their barbed wire. The wire has since been removed but they continue to mount guard.PHUKET: -- Long-tailed boat operators have blocked the path down to Freedom Beach, meaning visitors can no longer access the beach on foot, and instead are forced to take a longtail.The operators are quite clear: they don’t want people walking down to the largest beach on Phuket that is untouched by development. They want them to pay for the boat ride from Patong Beach, and they don’t care about the legalities. Their livelihood, they say, is at stake.An expatriate who preferred not to be named walked down to the beach with two other foreigners and two Thais on Sunday (February 16). As he reported to The Phuket News, they had no problem walking down the hill above the beach, ownership of which is claimed by a Phuket individual.But when they got down to the bottom, they were faced with a new barbed wire fence. Standing on the other side of the fence were three Thai boat operators.“They were standing there shouting ‘Go back! You can’t go onto the beach!’ All three had an aggressive posture and they didn’t want us there. They kept saying that we must go to Patong and take a boat from there.“We were one metre from the sand,” he told The Phuket News.“My friend is Thai and tried to bargain with them but nothing worked as we were clearly not wanted on ‘their beach’.”The party thought the final few metres were public land but after 5-10 minutes of pointless arguing they gave up and headed back up the hill.“At the top of the hill was the ‘land owner’s’ caretaker. He had no problem with us walking down through the land to get to the beach. He was a very nice, understanding Thai who knew about the longtail people and referred to them them as ‘boat mafia’.“We felt sorry for him as it seemed he was under pressure from the longtail operators to keep people from using the foot path to gain access to Freedom Beach.“It was clear that the boat people only want paying customers to go there on their transport [boats from Patong] and by no other means,” he added.The Phuket News visited the beach on Friday (February 21). There are two paths down to the beach. One is closed with an ominous sign stating, “Tourist Warning! Be careful of the people who doesn’t own this land to collect the entry fee to Freedom Beach. This land is private property. Not allow to pass this land to the Freedom Beach. The invasion is criminal, any violation will be prosecuted according to the law.”The other way to go down the beach, however, is still open, apart from the longtail guards at the very bottom.On Friday morning, the longtail operators said, someone had come at 8:30 am and removed the barbed wire. No one seemed to know who these people were acting for, but the longtail operators were visibly offended.The Phuket News called the person who claims to own the land but she refused to comment.One of the boatmen said, “The land to the Freedom Beach in the past used to be overgrown, steep land that no one could walk through. As time passed, however, people built paths down the hill and started charging entry fees for people who wanted to go down that way.In fact, the group who contacted The Phuket News about the path being wired off and guarded said that they were never asked for money before they walked down the path to the shore.But whether there is a charge or not, the boatmen argue, “We lose revenue. We used to be the only way for people to get to the beach.”The boat men, members of the Patong Longtail Boat Association, told The Phuket News that their ancestors had fished the waters off the island’s west coast for at least 100 years.But as tourism developed and Patong boomed, wastewater draining from the swelling town polluted the waters and reduced fish catches to unsustainable levels.So the boatmen had to switch to providing water taxi services for tourists. Now they fear that the only beach not accessible from the land – and therefore their main source of income – is going to be opened up to everybody because of “rich people” who have managed to grab the land opening paths and allowing tourists to walk down the beach.The longtail boat operators believe that the land cannot and should not be owned by private individuals. One said, “We would like to sea the beach and the hillside stay natural forever.”They have a point; in May 2012 the Parliamentary Committee for Anti-Corruption and Misconduct ruled that a chanote deed for 65 rai of land bordering Freedom Beach had been issued “through illegal process” and petitioned the Land Department to rescind the deed, with the land reverting to public ownership.Yet it appears that has not happened and the land still has an “owner”.Big money is at stake. Two years ago the 65 rai was offered for sale at B60 million a rai, or about B4 billion for the lot.This makes the boatmen resentful – and worried. They remain convinced that even if the land owners are rich enough not to bother about charging entry fees, the gatekeepers may see an opportunity for enhancing their own income.“My ancestors were working here for a long, long time,” said one. “Now, investors come and take advantage from the entry fee business. So how will we eat now? You have to understand our point of view.”The boat operators admitted that they know it’s wrong to block the path with barbed wire but pointed out that they carry passengers to the beach only from December to March – the high season.From April to November the heavy seas of the southwest monsoon are too rough for them to set out to sea. In those months, they say, the “investors” can make money from fees charged for using the paths through their land.Ironically, although the action of the boatmen is illegal, it may also be the only thing keeping the issue in the public eye and slowing an insidious land grab that could result in the one remaining large pristine beach on the island being blighted by development.Source: http://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-boatmen-block-access-to-famed-beach-44847.php-- Phuket News 2014-02-27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post andreandre Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) Just one more case of Thainess and Phukets future.. Edited February 27, 2014 by andreandre 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JesseFrank Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 What was the name of that beach again ? Freedom beach you said ? 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Land of smiles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huahinjoe Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Amazing Thailand at it best again, Freedom beach where you not allowed to enter freely.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkungbank Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 In the name of freedom of speech, peoples freedom, freedom is not tools to do something iilegal under democratic. You have right others also have thier own rights too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Third world, and always will be! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post eezergood Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 I personally know the guy on the right of the picture, I furthermore know that his boat was donated to him (by a farang) after the Tsunami - he only has his so called business due to the generousity of 2 people! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezergood Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I just called the 1155 HOTLINE - of course no English, no problem, then they say never heard of freedom beach........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Thought there was some sort of beach hut bar/restaurant at Freedom beach. How is that business supposed to get customers. Amazing Thailand at it's worst. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CiaranO Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 Police get of your lazy ass's - arrest these guys - do your F****** jobs for once. What a disgrace this is even allowed to happen for one minute. Phuket yet again showing it is a quality tourist destination. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MacWalen Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) That is what happens when people are uneducated, they are very insecure about their income because they have no idea how else to make living. So forcing tourists to use their services is the best way to make money they can think of. Similar situation with Phuket taxi mafia. Edited February 27, 2014 by MacWalen 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NamKangMan Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 Patong Longtails = Water tuk-tuks. The money grab on Phuket is becoming more laughable everyday. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Briggsy Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 Don't go to Phuket. The people are not nice. 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamKangMan Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) That is what happens when people are undedicated, they are very insecure about their income because they have no ideas how else to make living. So forcing tourists to use their services is the best way to make money they can think of. Similar situation with Phuket taxi mafia. "So forcing tourists to use their services is the best way to make money they can think of." - which, eventually, just forces tourists to go to another destination, as can be seen in the declining traditional western market coming to Phuket. Edited February 27, 2014 by NamKangMan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daoyai Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Ph''''k taxi boats, noisy smelly and make the beach a parking for boats, the less the better, I don't think that pollution was the only cause of fish stock decline, most likely over fishing also. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Showbags Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 Sad bunch .....typical Thai attitude though unfortunately... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post steelepulse Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 Love how the "ancestors" are brought up when convenient. What a crock of <deleted>! These guys are just plain thugs along with their tuk tuk taxi brethren. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dave 74 Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 Welcome to beautiful Thailand and Thai people. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post laurentbkk Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 One silly question ! I thought they were laws ,rules and police in Phuket ... It seems those punks decide what is good or not ... I just wonder why people still go to Phuket on holidays , are they blind ? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Showbags Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 One silly question ! I thought they were laws ,rules and police in Phuket ... It seems those punks decide what is good or not ... I just wonder why people still go to Phuket on holidays , are they blind ? Combine that with it being an absolute over rated <deleted> hole and lets not forget the 'pristine' beaches.... c 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezergood Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Pure thugery, graft & corruption at its best 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RJF Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 It seems occupying public property to try and get what you want is the Thai way to deal with issues... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canuckamuck Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 If it obvious and illegal and the police aren't stopping it - they are profiting from it. Applies to many situations in Thailand. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave 74 Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Pure thugery, graft & corruption at its best Why not just use the term 'Thailand'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namdocmai Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 One day i took a longtailboat to Riley beach, the "captain" overloaded the boat and waves were coming overboard, then he gave us a half bucket to scoop the water out all the time. Then the engine broke of it's stand and almost fell overboard. I had to help the "captain" to hold the engine and while it was loosely hanging on the back of the boat we managed to get back to land. I will never go back to Phuket. The boats and taxi's are terrible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dave 74 Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 It's been 10 years since I last visited Phuket. Man am I glad that myself and none of my family or friends are ever, ever going to set foot on the sh!thole again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post toonsai Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 (edited) The boat men, members of the Patong Longtail Boat MAFIA Association. Over and over stories with ALL the same root causes: corruption, no rule of law, no control, mai pen rai attitude. Thailand golden years are finished. Too much laxism and corruption, too many abuses without any authority and control > Thailand service level is going down the hill, Thailand scams and craps up the hill. I am really deeply concerned by Thailand future and outlook. Everything is like this and people and tourists will start to realize and go somewhere else. TAXI = MAFIA JETSKI = MAFIA TOUR OPERATORS = MAFIA LONGTAIL BOATS = MAFIA CONSTRUCTION = MAFIA PUBLIC VANS AND TRANSPORT = MAFIA and so on and so on... No standard, No control, No safety, No authority, No implementation or respect of laws and regulations. All about corruption and money. Above is a real summary of Thailand development in the past decade. Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket, Samui. Krabi and Koh Chang on the way... Edited February 27, 2014 by toonsai 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brevity Posted February 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2014 Police get of your lazy ass's - arrest these guys - do your F****** jobs for once. What a disgrace this is even allowed to happen for one minute. Phuket yet again showing it is a quality tourist destination. Yes, it seems that we never hear about the police doing anything close to their job in Phuket. They obviously take their orders from the likes of these neanderthal thugs. I have been to Phuket a few times, and after the last time I just could not see any reason to go back again. I was very surprised how unpleasant and unreasonably greedy the Phuket business community had become, in general. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eezergood Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 It's been 10 years since I last visited Phuket. Man am I glad that myself and none of my family or friends are ever, ever going to set foot on the sh!thole again. The place is beautiful - the people, particularly the locals, are a totally different matter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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