Popular Post Idontpaytaxsowhat Posted March 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2014 Why they don't ban plastic bag in Thailand ? . I m calling Thai authorities to clean the country from these plastic bags. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Banning the Bag ... might have wider implications then you have thought of ... Imagine how clean Beach Road would be. What would you replace the bag with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutch Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Some countries have introduced a tax levy on plastic bags to discourage sales and usage. But I some how think that idea wouldn't agree with your TV user name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) How would the ten's of thousands of Thais, get their take out food from those carts and noodle shops, market stalls etc without them ? What is a practical cost effective alternative ? The bags are not the problem, people need to be educated and taught to dispose of them correctly and responsibly. Good luck with that ! Edited March 2, 2014 by CharlieH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 It'd be easier to ban motorcycles or rice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie H Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 How would i carry my soda pop around? Sent from my GT-I9300 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idontpaytaxsowhat Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 Use paper bag. It s natural. ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 ban plastic water bottles too ,they live much longer than bags ban any non modern engines esp diesel trucks and buses ban all 2 stroke oil burning motorcycles ban dumping rubbish on roadsides lots of things to ban if you want to start .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zeichen Posted March 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2014 Im calling the government to ban morons who call the government to complain about plastic bag banning without thinking of an alternative. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Idontpaytaxsowhat Posted March 2, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) Im calling the government to ban morons who call the government to complain about plastic bag banning without thinking of an alternative.Any morons will tell you this:I find that reusable bags are so much easier to manage, and I don’t have to deal with as much clutter as I normally do with plastic or paper bags. Reusable shopping bags can even be washed. They’re also sturdy and can withstand more weight than a normal shopping bag can. Edited March 2, 2014 by Idontpaytaxsowhat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Use paper bag. It s natural. ! From the USA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Anyway ... those plastic bags are usefull. We need something to keep the rubbish in before we burn it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Cornelius Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Use paper bag. It s natural. ! From the USA? Yes, and paper serves the same purpose and is bio-degradable. More usage of paper bags would mean less paper for folks to; hand out leaflets and put junk mail in your mailbox. A much better world. Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clutch Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I spent 25 year in the packaging business both with paper and plastic bags: I suggest you read this: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/shortcuts/2011/dec/20/paper-plastic-bags-which-best 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post I Like Thai Posted March 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted March 2, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTUaONkbtm8 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 They banned plastic bags in Burma last year. No one noticed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Use paper bag. It s natural. ! From the USA? Yes, and paper serves the same purpose and is bio-degradable. More usage of paper bags would mean less paper for folks to; hand out leaflets and put junk mail in your mailbox. A much better world. Jerry paper bags are shit though imagine bringing home beer on your motorbike with paper bags where would you hang them ? what if it rains ? what if your drink comes in a bag for some reason ? plastic is useful ,they just need a responsible system in pplace for recycling it back into new plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inzman Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 The world needs to start now, thinking about banning plastic altogether, bags and bottles. First of all, they are made from oil, second, they don't decompose very well. The future of the world depends on the replacement of these depleting resources. Reuseable bags, and paper bags would be a start. It needs to start somewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo88 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) At least BigC and Lotus could teach their staff to not use such an incredible amount of bags for each customer. This would be good for both the environment and the shareholders of grocery stores. Regarding take-away food, Thai people should be informed of the fact that plastics and hot food/drink are a bad combination and may be carcinogenic. Once such knowledge becomes well-spread, alternatives may develop. Edited March 2, 2014 by Cosmo88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canman Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Yes, ban the plastic bag, cut down more trees to make paper bags! Re-useable cloth bags i here you say, what about the CO2 footprint? You need to wash cloth bags or risk cross contamination, food poisoning and death. Plenty of studies showing reusable bags have a bigger environmental impact. The problem is one of education, certain cultures simply throw away, litter and burn; thats what needs to change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedghog Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 As for plastic bags. The western allegedly 1st world countries discard of them aplenty,along with hazardous waste sold on,to true third world countries,for disposal Proclaiming innocence,plus green economy compliance. Ostriches the lot of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I think they are actually growing them in Thailand,i passed a plowed field recently and it seemed to me a new crop of bags where starting to push their way up to bloom,sorry i don't have a photo,but i could have sworn the new crop was plastic bags,like i have said before once rubbish leaves a thai persons hand for them it ceases to exist,a good education of advertisments and in schools may stem the problem,but i somehow doubt it, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko kok prong Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 At least BigC and Lotus could teach their staff to not use such an incredible amount of bags for each customer. This would be good for both the environment and the shareholders of grocery stores. Regarding take-away food, Thai people should be informed of the fact that plastics and hot food/drink are a bad combination and may be carcinogenic. Once such knowledge becomes well-spread, alternatives may develop. re; take away foods; So i suggest you try to explain this to your thai family,or friends,they will look at you and say "falang bin ba,or ting tong" carry on eating and forget in seconds what you have said,whilst enjoying some plaa ra and throwing bags all over,you must be new to the los. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) I think they are actually growing them in Thailand,i passed a plowed field recently and it seemed to me a new crop of bags where starting to push their way up to bloom,sorry i don't have a photo,but i could have sworn the new crop was plastic bags,like i have said before once rubbish leaves a thai persons hand for them it ceases to exist,a good education of advertisments and in schools may stem the problem,but i somehow doubt it, The phrase "Don't Mess with Texas" was prominently shown on road signs on major highways, television, radio and in print advertisements. The campaign is credited with reducing litter on Texas highways roughly 72% between 1986 and 1990. The campaign's target market was 18-35 year old males, which was statistically shown to be the most likely to litter. While the slogan was originally not intended to become a statewide cultural icon, it did. "Don't Mess with Texas" has been awarded a plaque on the Madison Avenue Walk of Fame and a place in the Advertising Hall of Fame, a distinction given to only two slogans annually. Edited March 2, 2014 by thailiketoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitsune Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) How would the ten's of thousands of Thais, get their take out food from those carts and noodle shops, market stalls etc without them ? What is a practical cost effective alternative ? The bags are not the problem, people need to be educated and taught to dispose of them correctly and responsibly. Good luck with that ! You can not dispose of bags correctly or responsibly, ultimately they will end up in the ocean killing marine life and creating these 6th continent of litter in the middle of the Pacific. If you burn them it's worse for the atmosphere. One solution is to replace them by biodegradable ones, like paper but it destroys forests, or corn it also destroy forests. The only solution is to teach people to carry their own bags, and refuse them from the shop, but it's a real challenge. So yes banning is the only way. Edited March 2, 2014 by Kitsune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingtong Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Until OP succeed, I just go on using them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 How would the ten's of thousands of Thais, get their take out food from those carts and noodle shops, market stalls etc without them ? What is a practical cost effective alternative ? The bags are not the problem, people need to be educated and taught to dispose of them correctly and responsibly. Good luck with that ! You can not dispose of bags correctly or responsibly, ultimately they will end up in the ocean killing marine life and creating these 6th continent of litter in the middle of the Pacific. If you burn them it's worse for the atmosphere. One solution is to replace them by biodegradable ones, like paper but it destroys forests, or corn it also destroy forests. The only solution is to teach people to carry their own bags, and refuse them from the shop, but it's a real challenge. but theyre so convenient to put the garbage in and leave it outside ........ re-useing bags would be more hassle id have to carry them back to the 7-11 ,they staff would think im crazy and id still have the same problem of nothing to put my garbage in like half eaten food that needs to be sealed or it stinks etc .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitsune Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) How would the ten's of thousands of Thais, get their take out food from those carts and noodle shops, market stalls etc without them ? What is a practical cost effective alternative ? The bags are not the problem, people need to be educated and taught to dispose of them correctly and responsibly. Good luck with that ! You can not dispose of bags correctly or responsibly, ultimately they will end up in the ocean killing marine life and creating these 6th continent of litter in the middle of the Pacific. If you burn them it's worse for the atmosphere. One solution is to replace them by biodegradable ones, like paper but it destroys forests, or corn it also destroy forests. The only solution is to teach people to carry their own bags, and refuse them from the shop, but it's a real challenge. but theyre so convenient to put the garbage in and leave it outside ........ re-useing bags would be more hassle id have to carry them back to the 7-11 ,they staff would think im crazy and id still have the same problem of nothing to put my garbage in like half eaten food that needs to be sealed or it stinks etc .... You separate you litter and recycle plastic paper and glass.That's 2/3 of your waste disappearing right there. Obviously they have to be taken away to recycle places. That's why if they ban plastic bags, they also have to start separating it when picking it up and deliver it to the right location (which is not done now) The wet rest can be used to make excellent compost if you have a garden. For those who don't have a private garden, there could be a collect point for each neighborhood for you to deposit your wet waste. Edited March 2, 2014 by Kitsune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyumiii Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) Paper is a renewable resource. Small, young , fast growing trees can be used to make pulp for paper. Old growth forests are not needed to produce paper. It could develop into a good business in Thailand. Growing pulp producing trees between rice fields like they do with the Eucalyptus they grow and harvest every few years to make poles would work. The pulp mills would employ many people as well. If a Thai businessman or government employee could be convinced it was his idea, it could be done profitably here...after the ban on plastic! Edited March 2, 2014 by willyumiii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 How would the ten's of thousands of Thais, get their take out food from those carts and noodle shops, market stalls etc without them ? What is a practical cost effective alternative ? The bags are not the problem, people need to be educated and taught to dispose of them correctly and responsibly. Good luck with that ! You can not dispose of bags correctly or responsibly, ultimately they will end up in the ocean killing marine life and creating these 6th continent of litter in the middle of the Pacific. If you burn them it's worse for the atmosphere. One solution is to replace them by biodegradable ones, like paper but it destroys forests, or corn it also destroy forests. The only solution is to teach people to carry their own bags, and refuse them from the shop, but it's a real challenge. but theyre so convenient to put the garbage in and leave it outside ........ re-useing bags would be more hassle id have to carry them back to the 7-11 ,they staff would think im crazy and id still have the same problem of nothing to put my garbage in like half eaten food that needs to be sealed or it stinks etc .... You separate you litter and recycle plastic paper and glass.That's 2/3 of your waste disappearing right there. Obviously they have to be taken away to recycle places. That's why if they ban plastic bags, they also have to start separating it when picking it up and deliver it to the right location (which is not done now) The wet rest can be used to make excellent compost if you have a garden. For those who don't have a private garden, there could be a collect point for each neighborhood for you to deposit your wet waste. the garbage would attract everything from roaches to rats and everything in between and theyre be more flies than africa if the garbage wasnt sealed in plastic bags until somoene invents an equally convenient system of disposing waste i dont think its going to catch on nobodys has time to go every 2 days to 3-4 differnt places to dispose of paper ,glass ,plastic and food waste even if it only took 10 minutes to separate everything i still dont think thais in general would do it unless the penalty for not doing it was massive and farangs account for so little here we kinda have to do things their way until they decide to change it if i go out now ,im near guaranteed to come home with 10 bags sliced fruits x 3 transparent ones and 1 big white one containing the rest tesco or 7-11 will give me another 3 when i buy 10 litres of water any other things say another 1-2 white bags if i buy curry i get one for the food and one for the sticky rice and a white carry all for both order a pizza and wings and it comes in a box ,then a massive bag stop for an ice coffee and it has a plastic bag style handle but the cup is made of wax coated carboard?? ive even used them as ropes to tie things to the motorbike i personally get given a high number of bags per day does it all end in a landfill site ? is it even feasible to melt ti down and make new bags ? who knows ? i just know everything comes in a bag ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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