PCAD activist wanted for 'attempted murder' of redshirt

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PCAD Activist Wanted For 'Attempted Murder' Of Redshirt
By Khaosod English



BANGKOK: -- The court has approved arrest warrant on a core leader of the anti-government movement for his alleged attempt to torture and murder a pro-government supporter.

The move came after a security guard of an autoparts company named Mr. Yuem Nilla was found with his feet and hands bound together in Bang Pakong River.

Mr. Yuem later said he was detained and tortured by a group of anti-government protest "guards" in Lumpini Park after they searched him and uncovered a membership card of the United Front of Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD).

According to Mr. Yuem, after several days of detention, the guards tied his feet and hands, and dumped him to die in Bang Pakong River in Chachoengsao province, just east of Bangkok, but a group of locals narrowly saved him from drowning.

Mr. Yuem identified Mr. Issara Somchai, a core leader of the People's Committee for Absolute Democracy With the King As Head of State (PCAD), as the man who ordered his torture and his subsequent execution.

Today, Chachoengsao Provincial Court has approved arrest warrants of Mr. Issara and 5 other "guards" under his command on 5 charges, including attempted premeditated murder, unlawful detention leading to grievous harms, and physical assaults.

Pol.Col. Kiattisak Srathong-On, a commander of police in Chachoengsao province, said the officers are working to identify Mr. Issara's accomplices by CCTV footage and other evidences to prosecute the suspects.

Meanwhile, Pol.Col. Sirikul Srisanga, spokeswoman of the Police Hospital, where Mr. Yuem is currently admitted, told our correspondent that the victim still needs to breath through tube in his lung, as the organ has been damaged in the alleged torture.

"He is occasionally exhausted, and he is hurt when he moves himself on the bed," Pol.Col. Sirikul said.

Source: http://en.khaosod.co.th/detail.php?newsid=1394200077&typecate=06&section=


-- Khaosod English 2014-03-08

[Snig27]

Peace loving murderous thugs. Same grouping that seems to have repeatedly unexplained caches of lethal weapons.

And before the Pattaya Suthep Fan Club chips in - this report has appeared across a range of media.

Edited March 7, 2014 by Snig27

[chooka]

All the yellow shirts supporters will be out in defence of the warm loving peaceful man and claim it can't possibly be true. It is a set up to discredit the warmth, compassion and peace Suthep and his thugs have been displaying. This redshirt tied himself up, gave himself a beating and then threw himself into the river to drown.

Both sides are as bad as each other, they are all Thais and the product of the same environment.

Edited March 7, 2014 by chooka

[Tatsujin]

All the yellow shirts supporters will be out in defence of the warm loving peaceful man and claim it can't possibly be true. It is a set up to discredit the warmth, compassion and peace Suthep and his thugs have been displaying. This redshirt tied himself up, gave himself a beating and then threw himself into the river to drown.

Both sides are as bad as each other, they are all Thais and the product of the same environment.

Well, I'm not going to defend anyone on this one . . . if those responsible are indeed the ones named in the warrants, then they deserve all they will receive.

[TVGerry]

All the yellow shirts supporters will be out in defence of the warm loving peaceful man and claim it can't possibly be true. It is a set up to discredit the warmth, compassion and peace Suthep and his thugs have been displaying. This redshirt tied himself up, gave himself a beating and then threw himself into the river to drown.

Both sides are as bad as each other, they are all Thais and the product of the same environment.

I've said it before, if what this fella said it's true, this act cannot be tolerated and those responsible should be fully prosecuted by the law.

If.

[Yunla]

"He is occasionally exhausted, and he is hurt when he moves himself on the bed," Pol.Col. Sirikul said.

I hope he recovers swiftly, and has no serious long-term injuries that affect his ability to work and raise a family.

I also hope that all the genuinely guilty people involved in this barbaric and cowardly crime are caught, receive a fair trial and if found guilty are sent to the clink for a very long time. We don't want this sort of brutality anywhere on this planet, it is cruel beyond words and totally needless on every level.

[chooka]

All the yellow shirts supporters will be out in defence of the warm loving peaceful man and claim it can't possibly be true. It is a set up to discredit the warmth, compassion and peace Suthep and his thugs have been displaying. This redshirt tied himself up, gave himself a beating and then threw himself into the river to drown.

Both sides are as bad as each other, they are all Thais and the product of the same environment.

I've said it before, if what this fella said it's true, this act cannot be tolerated and those responsible should be fully prosecuted by the law.

If.

I think what he is saying is probably true, you don't end up like this shopping for a pair of shoes. His attackers didn't expect him to survive and now he has identified one of his attackers.

[whybother]

I still don't understand how his PDRC necklace stayed in such a pristine condition after the beating and dunking in the river, and why the hospital wouldn't have cut it off when they cut the rest of his clothes off. Also, why would the PDRC have even put it on him?

I hope the people that did this are caught and dealt with, and I wouldn't put it past the PDRC to have done it, but the whole story of an ex red shirt guard "relaxing" in Lumpini park where a major "yellow" shirt protest had been going on for weeks just doesn't sound right.

Sent from my phone ...

[Fryslan boppe]

Until I see this PAD-Dem guy and his accomplices, under whatever diversionary group name they choose, in shackles behind bars, everything is just so much hot air.

And spare me this non-enforcement notion of "Acknowledging charges" when they catch up to this guy.

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Double standards all over the place.

Edited March 8, 2014 by metisdead

[ikke]

All the yellow shirts supporters will be out in defence of the warm loving peaceful man and claim it can't possibly be true. It is a set up to discredit the warmth, compassion and peace Suthep and his thugs have been displaying. This redshirt tied himself up, gave himself a beating and then threw himself into the river to drown.

Both sides are as bad as each other, they are all Thais and the product of the same environment.

I've said it before, if what this fella said it's true, this act cannot be tolerated and those responsible should be fully prosecuted by the law.

If.

I think what he is saying is probably true, you don't end up like this shopping for a pair of shoes. His attackers didn't expect him to survive and now he has identified one of his attackers.

Let's see what the CCTV evidence brings. And if they can be identified, that they really get arrested !

[AleG]

Appaling, may they rot in jail if found guilty.

At this point, IMHO, the main reason for the protest areas is to protect the leaders.

[crazykopite]

This cannot be true our dear leader kun Suthep would not allow this to happen no doubt he will come out with words claiming it was self inflicted or that the PM is guilty of the crime !! Suthep and his henchmen are thugs sooner they are herded up and thrown in jail the better for us all.

[Jean Pierre Jacquot]

Until I see this PAD-Dem guy and his accomplices, under whatever diversionary group name they choose, in shackles behind bars, everything is just so much hot air.

And spare me this non-enforcement notion of "Acknowledging charges" when they catch up to this guy.

For UDD/RS's under AV's unelected tenure as PM, it was jail in shackles. For all PAD-Dem's, including the airporters, it has been "Acknowledging charges" ad-infinitum and then nothing.

Double standards all over the place.

Yes, double standards all the time. Look at the police: when children are killed they pretend to know nothing about who did it but when a peace loving red shirt hardliner is beaten up they know immediately who did it....

The fact that the police is so keen on this case is the prove that it was not Suthep behind it. In any case Suthep has never preached people taking up arms and fight. The red shirts though do that all the time. You forgot the 600,000 people army? What about them saying they are going to divide the country? No need to have a PhD to know who is the violent group. So what about arresting somebody who is proclaiming to seperate the country which is a very serious offence. Where is the police in that case? WHERE?

[boisian]

so what is the general feeling about the Thai politics in TV - i actually find it hard to ascertain.....

Talking broad sweeping general generalities, is it

Against Shinanwatra Gov't but also against Suthep Anti Gov't yellow shirt protestor, but also against pro Gov't redshirts, and ambivalent to the opposition Abhisit (being somewhat more urbane, but not necessarily less corrupt?)

[Utley]

I still don't understand how his PDRC necklace stayed in such a pristine condition after the beating and dunking in the river, and why the hospital wouldn't have cut it off when they cut the rest of his clothes off. Also, why would the PDRC have even put it on him?

I hope the people that did this are caught and dealt with, and I wouldn't put it past the PDRC to have done it, but the whole story of an ex red shirt guard "relaxing" in Lumpini park where a major "yellow" shirt protest had been going on for weeks just doesn't sound right.

Sent from my phone ...

One of the victim’s visitors at the hospital probably tied the necklace on him for the photo.

[DrTuner]

so what is the general feeling about the Thai politics in TV - i actually find it hard to ascertain.....

Talking broad sweeping general generalities, is it

Against Shinanwatra Gov't but also against Suthep Anti Gov't yellow shirt protestor, but also against pro Gov't redshirts, and ambivalent to the opposition Abhisit (being somewhat more urbane, but not necessarily less corrupt?)

Against politicians in general is a healthy way of thinking. World should find a way to get rid of them all and trying to be one should be a crime. Same goes for religious leaders and others trying to grab an individuals freedom to decide him/herself.

[chooka]

Until I see this PAD-Dem guy and his accomplices, under whatever diversionary group name they choose, in shackles behind bars, everything is just so much hot air.

And spare me this non-enforcement notion of "Acknowledging charges" when they catch up to this guy.

For UDD/RS's under AV's unelected tenure as PM, it was jail in shackles. For all PAD-Dem's, including the airporters, it has been "Acknowledging charges" ad-infinitum and then nothing.

Double standards all over the place.

Yes, double standards all the time. Look at the police: when children are killed they pretend to know nothing about who did it but when a peace loving red shirt hardliner is beaten up they know immediately who did it....

The fact that the police is so keen on this case is the prove that it was not Suthep behind it. In any case Suthep has never preached people taking up arms and fight. The red shirts though do that all the time. You forgot the 600,000 people army? What about them saying they are going to divide the country? No need to have a PhD to know who is the violent group. So what about arresting somebody who is proclaiming to seperate the country which is a very serious offence. Where is the police in that case? WHERE?

I think you will the police were quicker in this incident because the guy was lucky enough to survive this murder attempt and identify one of his attackers. If he had not of survived then his killing may have been attributed to the reds but unfortunately for Suthep and his thugs he lived to tell the tale. All they can say now is we tortured him peacefully and humanely before binding him and tossing him in the water to drown. The yellow shirt book on painless, peaceful torture and murder was followed to the letter.

[LomSak27]

Source: http://en.khaosod.co...ate=06&section=

Good The Nation did not see fit to cover this, it might dis-illusion its core supporters

Such things are not permitted

[thaiguzzi]

All the yellow shirts supporters will be out in defence of the warm loving peaceful man and claim it can't possibly be true. It is a set up to discredit the warmth, compassion and peace Suthep and his thugs have been displaying. This redshirt tied himself up, gave himself a beating and then threw himself into the river to drown.

Both sides are as bad as each other, they are all Thais and the product of the same environment.

Well, I'm not going to defend anyone on this one . . . if those responsible are indeed the ones named in the warrants, then they deserve all they will receive.

They won't "receive" anything.

[BestBitterPhuket]

Until I see this PAD-Dem guy and his accomplices, under whatever diversionary group name they choose, in shackles behind bars, everything is just so much hot air.

And spare me this non-enforcement notion of "Acknowledging charges" when they catch up to this guy.

For UDD/RS's under AV's unelected tenure as PM, it was jail in shackles. For all PAD-Dem's, including the airporters, it has been "Acknowledging charges" ad-infinitum and then nothing.

Double standards all over the place.

Yes, double standards all the time. Look at the police: when children are killed they pretend to know nothing about who did it but when a peace loving red shirt hardliner is beaten up they know immediately who did it....

The fact that the police is so keen on this case is the prove that it was not Suthep behind it. In any case Suthep has never preached people taking up arms and fight. The red shirts though do that all the time. You forgot the 600,000 people army? What about them saying they are going to divide the country? No need to have a PhD to know who is the violent group. So what about arresting somebody who is proclaiming to seperate the country which is a very serious offence. Where is the police in that case? WHERE?

You sound like an apologist for the cruel and evil people behind this disgusting crime. Torturing a man for days and then drowning him is the crulest form of premeditated murder, and much more so than firing random shots without aiming at any specific person or body part. Your heroes are inhuman and evil, but you are probably fine with that.

[BestBitterPhuket]

Until I see this PAD-Dem guy and his accomplices, under whatever diversionary group name they choose, in shackles behind bars, everything is just so much hot air.

And spare me this non-enforcement notion of "Acknowledging charges" when they catch up to this guy.

For UDD/RS's under AV's unelected tenure as PM, it was jail in shackles. For all PAD-Dem's, including the airporters, it has been "Acknowledging charges" ad-infinitum and then nothing.

Double standards all over the place.

AV was unelected? Funny. From what I recall the vote was 235-198 in his favor on 15-12-2008.

The court's double standards are no longer accepted and that trick is too old. Thailand will move on, and the days of judicial and military coups are gone, and if attempted it will only trigger a dangerous uprising and split of the country. A peaceful political solution will only work if it benefits ALL Thais by a government not lead by the old elite.

[Bernard Flint]

Peace loving murderous thugs. Same grouping that seems to have repeatedly unexplained caches of lethal weapons.

And before the Pattaya Suthep Fan Club chips in - this report has appeared across a range of media.

SIR

Are u sure u didnt mean the Bangkok suthep fan club????

[wvavin]

Can this be real? Hope the red shirts have a better plot.

[seajae]

I am all for the protesters and what they want, not suthep and definitely not the yellows. As I have stated before, this is just a tad of a stretch to believe in the way he has claimed but whoever did it deserves the full force of the law. Originally it was just 3 guards but now it includes several others, seems that he just keeps adding to what he started and as yet no evidence to back it apart from his say so. Seems more of something money lenders/druggies do to a non payer, will be interesting to see what happens in the end when the truth eventually comes out.

[kikoman]

I still don't understand how his PDRC necklace stayed in such a pristine condition after the beating and dunking in the river, and why the hospital wouldn't have cut it off when they cut the rest of his clothes off. Also, why would the PDRC have even put it on him?

I hope the people that did this are caught and dealt with, and I wouldn't put it past the PDRC to have done it, but the whole story of an ex red shirt guard "relaxing" in Lumpini park where a major "yellow" shirt protest had been going on for weeks just doesn't sound right.

Sent from my phone ...

As reported by the police two days ago on a source we are not allowed to quote from, dead victims have been found, decorated with flags, logo cloth or whistles used by the PDRC protesters,

The body of Boontiang Karntu was found with a Thai ribbon on his right wrist and it a PDRC tee shirt, his mother said he did not belong to the PDRC but was a UDD guard.

Seems like this is not an isolated incident, so much for this peace loving protest, those that did these cowardly deeds need to be held accountable, murder is not an acceptable activity by PDRC supporters!

cheers

[TheReporter]

Karma is working on Thailand....soon there will be nothing but ashes left. That's when peace will return to the land of fake smiles.

[chooka]

I am all for the protesters and what they want, not suthep and definitely not the yellows. As I have stated before, this is just a tad of a stretch to believe in the way he has claimed but whoever did it deserves the full force of the law. Originally it was just 3 guards but now it includes several others, seems that he just keeps adding to what he started and as yet no evidence to back it apart from his say so. Seems more of something money lenders/druggies do to a non payer, will be interesting to see what happens in the end when the truth eventually comes out.

Just his word that it actually happened??? Let's not take into account the extensive injuries or that he was pulled from the water bound hand and foot and he actually saw his attackers. All circumstantial evidence I guess and it is just his word against Sutheps mob.

I guess a more plausible story would be that this lone man attacked a mob of Suthep supporters who feared for their lives and they acted in self defence.

[PepperMe]

This is just a load of &lt;deleted&gt; and it should be an embarrassment to not only the police, but the government and the red shirts.

This guy has taken a beating from someone that he probably knows and probably deserved it, and then paid a lot of money to make this story up.

Even if true, The police have shown once again amazing double standards. It seems every attack on a pro-government person is detected expeditiously while we are still waiting for any movement towards nabbing perpetrators of now around 90 attacks on anti-government supporters including the heartless 'and targeted' slaying of little children.

This guy has not been in any water, as can be shown as others have already pointed out, by the ribbon around his neck.

Also the police are merely acting upon what this guy has said and I can guarantee that because of the current and OBVIOUS campaign being waged by CMPO and ranks above that, against the PDRC and affiliated movements.

It reeks of a total and utter set up from start to finish.

This guy is being paid.... I guarantee it, and I am not such a shallow thinker that I will condemn this attack, because I quite simply don't believe a word of it, and come on.... anyone with a slither of rationality can see straight through this.

[seajae]

I am all for the protesters and what they want, not suthep and definitely not the yellows. As I have stated before, this is just a tad of a stretch to believe in the way he has claimed but whoever did it deserves the full force of the law. Originally it was just 3 guards but now it includes several others, seems that he just keeps adding to what he started and as yet no evidence to back it apart from his say so. Seems more of something money lenders/druggies do to a non payer, will be interesting to see what happens in the end when the truth eventually comes out.

Just his word that it actually happened??? Let's not take into account the extensive injuries or that he was pulled from the water bound hand and foot and he actually saw his attackers. All circumstantial evidence I guess and it is just his word against Sutheps mob.

I guess a more plausible story would be that this lone man attacked a mob of Suthep supporters who feared for their lives and they acted in self defence.

suggest you learn to read a full post and not just some of it. This sort of thing is more inline with what criminals(money lenders, drug dealers, corrupt police) do rather than security guards but as this doesnt fit your leanings you ignore it totally.

[mrtoad]

All the yellow shirts supporters will be out in defence of the warm loving peaceful man and claim it can't possibly be true. It is a set up to discredit the warmth, compassion and peace Suthep and his thugs have been displaying. This redshirt tied himself up, gave himself a beating and then threw himself into the river to drown.

Both sides are as bad as each other, they are all Thais and the product of the same environment.

You would like that wouldn't you?

If this guy has done that, then he should be charged and sentenced accordingly, just as any person involved in violence, intimidation, Arson, sedition, treason and corruption should.

Amazing that The BIB still haven't arrested anyone for the Trat shootings.