Senators question PM's authority

[whybother]

You guys here have to remember that the present constitution was written by the army after to coup and was not changed by abhisit and suthep when they were in power. Which they had all the time to do that but never did as it helped them become richer also.

It seems your memory is really failing you. The Democrats did make some changes to the constitution while they were in power.

[northernjohn]

Why do the Thai judiciary bother with all this stuff. Their decisions are totally ignored by everybody and rarely enforced. Surely their time would be better spent at the golf course.

You have a valid point there.

All ready the Government is saying they are going to ignore the ruling if they don't like it.

Reshuffling top senior officials required a Cabinet resolution and royal endorsement. Therefore, the court ruling could be deemed interference, Kanin said.

What a bunch of <deleted>. The only thing they will listen to has to come from Dubai. Or have it shoved down their throats by the people. It should be their automatic duty to look after the welfare of the people and obey the law. Because the law has no teeth in it they just do as they please.

But you have to admit they are listening to the people now. The Prime Minister is in hiding.

[MaiChai]

The PAD-Dem's keep seeking to function in an Opposition role outside Parliament, and their user-friendly Independent Agencies enable them to do it.

Regardless which side one takes in an issue such as this, it is clearly something that should be Parliamentarized. By obstructing the current election, the opposition is seeking to work outside that Parliamentary system, as could be expected from unelectables.

Since his transfer, while still working for government, Thawil has actively campaigned against it. He has frequently appeared on anti-democrat stages. In the recent past he has campaigned against government policy. Even supported the infamous plot diagram, seemingly being one of those responsible for it, and babbled about no orders being given to gun down red shirts in 2010.

As the NSC boss and former secretary of the Abhisit Vejjajiva government’s notorious Centre for the Resolution of Emergency Situation, Thawil proved a hopeless equivocater when he declared: “There was never an order to shoot down red-shirt protesters in 2010...”. When he made that claim, many asked: How dimwitted is Thawil? Does he expect that his blatant misrepresentations are going to be gobbled up as truth by a public that is now aware of events? It got worse when he said the Abhisit regime "did not use force to disperse red-shirt protesters on May 19, 2010. He said they had only asked the protesters to vacate the Ratchaprasong intersection in order to make way for traffic."

It is clear why the Yingluck government needed to move him; if it hadn't he would have worked to undermine the government. It is not surprising that the Elitist courts support him.

You wouldn't happen to be Robert Amsterdam?

[kikoman]

Why is the Senate involved they do not have the authority to do anything until after the election for the Senators, they have no power to do as they petition!

Any government in a Democracy have the power to place trusted people into positions of power in a new administration, this is done all over the world, except in Thailand's ammart controlled court system!

Cheers

[kikoman]

You guys here have to remember that the present constitution was written by the army after to coup and was not changed by abhisit and suthep when they were in power. Which they had all the time to do that but never did as it helped them become richer also.

It seems your memory is really failing you. The Democrats did make some changes to the constitution while they were in power.

Could yo kindly point out the changes the Democrats made in the Constitutions during Abhisit government. this is news to me, I did not know of any changes, one learns something new every day!

Thank you in advance for your helpful, information!

Cheers

[SICHONSTEVE]

" The Supreme Administrative Court upheld the Central Administrative Court' ruling in relation to Thawil. "

This is the only sentence Pheu Thai needs to read. Ever since " Thaksin's shuffle " in the months following the 2011 election, this has steadily gone through the judicial process. There's a good reason the Central Administrative Court and the Supreme Administrative Court came to this decision - it is constitutional, and Pheu Thai's is not. Not only that, but Yingluck had violated four articles of the constitution with this action in 2011, and that now goes to the Constitutional Court. Pheu Thai - as always - no matter how many judicial rulings - smugly stick to how they think things ought to be done.

I did not know thaksin was PM in 2011. Gee this is news.

He hasn't said that he was the PM at the time - he simply said "after Thaksin's shuffle" which is correct!!

[SICHONSTEVE]

Why is the Senate involved they do not have the authority to do anything until after the election for the Senators, they have no power to do as they petition!

Any government in a Democracy have the power to place trusted people into positions of power in a new administration, this is done all over the world, except in Thailand's ammart controlled court system!

Cheers

The house of senators was not dissolved - this is bad news for the PTP BTW. I believe that for anyone/any party to be impeached then this is done by the senate. They have to have a two thirds majority recommendation to successfully carry out impeachment. Considering about 70 of the 75 appointed senators were against the controversial bills that the PTP tried to ram rod through and there are 75 elected senators, one from each province, then this doesn't bode well for Yingluck as they will achieve sufficient votes to impeach whoever they deemed to have broken the law, without problem at all!!!!

Edited March 10, 2014 by SICHONSTEVE

[Thait Spot]

Why is the Senate involved they do not have the authority to do anything until after the election for the Senators, they have no power to do as they petition!

Any government in a Democracy have the power to place trusted people into positions of power in a new administration, this is done all over the world, except in Thailand's ammart controlled court system!

Cheers

The senate still functions if the lower house is dissolved. They are not the same.

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[whybother]

You guys here have to remember that the present constitution was written by the army after to coup and was not changed by abhisit and suthep when they were in power. Which they had all the time to do that but never did as it helped them become richer also.

It seems your memory is really failing you. The Democrats did make some changes to the constitution while they were in power.

Could yo kindly point out the changes the Democrats made in the Constitutions during Abhisit government. this is news to me, I did not know of any changes, one learns something new every day!

Thank you in advance for your helpful, information!

Cheers

The Democrats made changes to the number of MPs and they changed the electorates to single MP constituencies. I have mentioned this to you a number of times, so it seems your memory is failing you too.

You have to remember that although the Democrats were in government, they were there as part of a coalition, so they couldn't make all the changes that they are suggesting should be made now.

[Thait Spot]

You guys here have to remember that the present constitution was written by the army after to coup and was not changed by abhisit and suthep when they were in power. Which they had all the time to do that but never did as it helped them become richer also.

It seems your memory is really failing you. The Democrats did make some changes to the constitution while they were in power.

Could yo kindly point out the changes the Democrats made in the Constitutions during Abhisit government. this is news to me, I did not know of any changes, one learns something new every day!

Thank you in advance for your helpful, information!

Cheers

Google it.

You'll learn more

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[whybother]

Why is the Senate involved they do not have the authority to do anything until after the election for the Senators, they have no power to do as they petition!

Any government in a Democracy have the power to place trusted people into positions of power in a new administration, this is done all over the world, except in Thailand's ammart controlled court system!

Cheers

The senators are elected or appointed for a 6 year term, but offset by 3 years. The last senate election was in 2008, and the appointed senators were last appointed in 2011.

"Any government in a Democracy have the power to place trusted people into positions of power in a new administration, this is done all over the world, except in Thailand's ammart controlled court system!"

All over the world, except:

- England: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_Appointments_Commission

- India: http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/justice-in-judicial-appointments/article5587974.ece

- New Zealand: https://www.courtsofnz.govt.nz/about/judges/appointments

They're just the ones I found by looking for a couple of minutes.

[SICHONSTEVE]

Why is the Senate involved they do not have the authority to do anything until after the election for the Senators, they have no power to do as they petition!

Any government in a Democracy have the power to place trusted people into positions of power in a new administration, this is done all over the world, except in Thailand's ammart controlled court system!

Cheers

The senators are elected or appointed for a 6 year term, but offset by 3 years. The last senate election was in 2008, and the appointed senators were last appointed in 2011.

"Any government in a Democracy have the power to place trusted people into positions of power in a new administration, this is done all over the world, except in Thailand's ammart controlled court system!"

All over the world, except:

- England: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_Appointments_Commission

- India: http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/justice-in-judicial-appointments/article5587974.ece

- New Zealand: https://www.courtsofnz.govt.nz/about/judges/appointments

They're just the ones I found by looking for a couple of minutes.

What new administration are you referring to??

[moe666]

with this higly corrupt court is the outcome clear. the goverment from yingluck is illegal only the yellows have the right to rule thailand :-D by the way, in phuket, a stonghold of the yellows no wonder reigns mafias like tuk tuk, taxi, longtailboats and so on. and almost all of this mafias are yellows :-D

did you read your post utter nonsense and nothing to do with the OP

[Thait Spot]

"But Pheu Thai party-list MP candidate and legal expert Kanin Boonsuwan claimed the court ruling meant an independent entity was interfering in the work of the Administrative Branch without a mandate."

So the Constitution Court is an "independent entity" that the cabinet can choose to ignore? Are these guys for real at all? They certainly seem to be above the law. How can they call it a democracy when they refuse to respect the most basic democratic principles?

Unfortunately these dangerous individuals think that because they got the vote they own the country and everything in it.

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As opposed to those who never got anyone's vote but think they own the country and can dictate to others despite never having stood for public office

Like Yingluck?

[Jonmarleesco]

'... Kanin Boonsuwan claimed ... an independent entity was interfering in the work of the Administrative Branch ...' Makes a change from the Administrative Branch interfering in the work of an independent entity.

[wprime]

if I'm not mistaken, these would be the appointed senators rather than those elected? IE, the beneficiaries of patronage rather than those elected to represent the people?

Also known as the checks and balances which, in conjunction with the constitution ensures that the representative system of government acts democratically.

[JamesDean3]

Thats part of a free democratic discourse.