Joint supplements in Thailand?

[VisaEd]

I'm after some supplements to help my joints. My knees in particular are getting quite stiff.

I've been recommended Glucosamine and omega 3's.

Does anyone know a good place to get these at the best prices in Bangkok or Thailand mail order?

Or would I be better getting them sent in from overseas?

Thanks.

[Sheryl]

Every pharmacy carries these. Also the pharmacy section of many Tesco Lotuses.

[h90]

Every pharmacy carries these. Also the pharmacy section of many Tesco Lotuses.

Does it really help?

[Kitsune]

No supplement will change anything to your condition.

It's the food.

[uptheos]

Every pharmacy carries these. Also the pharmacy section of many Tesco Lotuses.

Does it really help?

I think it's debatable, but hey if it helps you then it helps.

Here's an old article, there are soooo many and all contradict each other depending where they're coming from.

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/does-glucosamine-really-work/

[h90]

Every pharmacy carries these. Also the pharmacy section of many Tesco Lotuses.

Does it really help?

I think it's debatable, but hey if it helps you then it helps.

Here's an old article, there are soooo many and all contradict each other depending where they're coming from.

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/does-glucosamine-really-work/

Yes I know that all the article contradict each other, so I prefer some first hand experience......Reason: I am mid 40 and started to exercise with weight and do it really heavy and without mercy. I don't have any joint problems (so far) but considering that I am not 19 and I am really getting much stronger than I was ever before in my life, I would think it would be good if I could somehow lubricate my joints.

Maybe it is not necessary, but surely it can't harm. But of course I don't want to spend many on some fake products.

[Kitsune]

Just look at the world map !

Arthritis is only present in countries based on Western diet.

http://www.nature.com/nrrheum/journal/v6/n8/fig_tab/nrrheum.2010.86_F1.html

Edited March 16, 2014 by Kitsune

[Sheryl]

This map refers to rheumatoid arthritis , not osteoarthritis -- entirely different disease processes!!!!

It is also not reliable even for RA, since RA is a complex diagnosis which requires access to sophisticated medical care, not the case in the developing world. Hence the majority of the globe being listed as "data not available". I know for a fact that RA is very common in Cambodia, for example. RA is an automimmune disease with a heavy genetic component. No association to diet has been established.

Osetoarthritis, which is what this thread is about, is on the other hand degenerative joint changes due to aging. It occurs sooner and more severely in the obese, but happens to at least some degree in everyone if they live long enough.

OA is present in populations throughout the world. It is more prevalent in societies with a higher percentage of older people. It is also more prevalent in societies with a lot of obesity, since that greatly adds to the wear and tear on the joints, and of course societies that have both an aging population and a lot of obesity have the most of all.

I specialize in working in undeveloped countries. Seen plenty of osteoarthritis in all of them.

As to whether these supplements help:

glucosamine - studies have shown contradictory findings. Here is an overview: http://www.arthritisresearchuk.org/arthritis-information/complementary-and-alternative-medicines/cam-report/complementary-medicines-for-osteoarthritis/glucosamine/glucosamine-sulphate-oa.aspx So the picture is unclear and it would currently be categorized as "possibly helpful".

Omega 6 oils (fish oil) - solid evidence that it helps reduce pain and inflammation, and often increases mobility. Whether it is taken as a supplement or ingested in food, same difference.

[Kitsune]

Same same.

Officially no one knows the origin of arthritis of both types, so really that does not matter, especially when none of the products available manage to cure any of them.

I asked the 8 doctors I saw during the course of my race against the disease for 6 months, no one could give me an answer.

Bangkok must be in a "developing country" as no one among the 8 "specialists" I saw could give me a firm diagnostic on arthritis. Let alone which type. To be more accurate it seemed like I had them all, the more doctor I saw the more diseases I had: RA one day, may be Osteo Arthritis the next, perhaps lupus, and a couple of other auto immune diseases I cannot remember now.

May be I should give you their name so you can explain to all the doctors I saw the differences between the two?, because it seemed to be depending of the mood of the day.

I don't know if the products you are referring to "help",but what I was given was nasty I thew it up instantly,never fell so nauseous in my life, I hard great difficulty in keeping them in and fell so dizzy could not stand up.

Changed diet got rid of it in 3 days, but you are going to say it's obviously "false".

Cambodia is affected by Western Diet and has been for years.

Yes most developing countries don't have data available but some have and they have very low prevalence.

Edited March 16, 2014 by Kitsune

[h90]

This map refers to rheumatoid arthritis , not osteoarthritis -- entirely different disease processes!!!!

It is also not reliable even for RA, since RA is a complex diagnosis which requires access to sophisticated medical care, not the case in the developing world. Hence the majority of the globe being listed as "data not available". I know for a fact that RA is very common in Cambodia, for example. RA is an automimmune disease with a heavy genetic component. No association to diet has been established.

Osetoarthritis, which is what this thread is about, is on the other hand degenerative joint changes due to aging. It occurs sooner and more severely in the obese, but happens to at least some degree in everyone if they live long enough.

OA is present in populations throughout the world. It is more prevalent in societies with a higher percentage of older people. It is also more prevalent in societies with a lot of obesity, since that greatly adds to the wear and tear on the joints, and of course societies that have both an aging population and a lot of obesity have the most of all.

I specialize in working in undeveloped countries. Seen plenty of osteoarthritis in all of them.

As to whether these supplements help:

glucosamine - studies have shown contradictory findings. Here is an overview: http://www.arthritisresearchuk.org/arthritis-information/complementary-and-alternative-medicines/cam-report/complementary-medicines-for-osteoarthritis/glucosamine/glucosamine-sulphate-oa.aspx So the picture is unclear and it would currently be categorized as "possibly helpful".

Omega 6 oils (fish oil) - solid evidence that it helps reduce pain and inflammation, and often increases mobility. Whether it is taken as a supplement or ingested in food, same difference.

I don't want to hijack the discussion but it fits so good to your posting and I ask myself this question since a long time....

1) Obese people have a lot joint problems due to wear and tear. That is well known and everyone knows people with these problems.

2) It is said that sport helps keeping the joints healthy. To use joints makes them stronger and there is no wear and tear as the body repairs it all the time. And in fact even when used hard....Bodybuilder which takes huge weights, people who like to hike a lot, even with heavy backpack or people who are running every day for decades till old age have less wear than lazy people.

Both obvious but contradicting

Lets exclude the back where the heavy belly is pulling it out of position. What is the difference if I am 40 kg overweight or if I always walk with a 40 kg backpack in the alps?

Or looking like a hulk and pushing 200 kg on some weight machine?

[Jessi]

Same same.

Officially no one knows the origin of arthritis of both types, so really that does not matter, especially when none of the products available manage to cure any of them.

I asked the 8 doctors I saw during the course of my race against the disease for 6 months, no one could give me an answer.

Bangkok must be in a "developing country" as no one among the 8 "specialists" I saw could give me a firm diagnostic on arthritis. Let alone which type. To be more accurate it seemed like I had them all, the more doctor I saw the more diseases I had: RA one day, may be Osteo Arthritis the next, perhaps lupus, and a couple of other auto immune diseases I cannot remember now.

May be I should give you their name so you can explain to all the doctors I saw the differences between the two?, because it seemed to be depending of the mood of the day.

I don't know if the products you are referring to "help",but what I was given was nasty I thew it up instantly,never fell so nauseous in my life, I hard great difficulty in keeping them in and fell so dizzy could not stand up.

Changed diet got rid of it in 3 days, but you are going to say it's obviously "false".

Cambodia is affected by Western Diet and has been for years.

Yes most developing countries don't have data available but some have and they have very low prevalence.

Cambodia is affected by Western Diet and has been for years.

What a load of rubbish!

Most Khmers can not afford to buy food with western influence.

In Kamphon Speu province more than 50% of people live on .50c a day,

Have you ever been to Cambodia??????????

[Sheryl]

Same same.

Officially no one knows the origin of arthritis of both types, so really that does not matter, especially when none of the products available manage to cure any of them.

I asked the 8 doctors I saw during the course of my race against the disease for 6 months, no one could give me an answer.

Bangkok must be in a "developing country" as no one among the 8 "specialists" I saw could give me a firm diagnostic on arthritis. Let alone which type. To be more accurate it seemed like I had them all, the more doctor I saw the more diseases I had: RA one day, may be Osteo Arthritis the next, perhaps lupus, and a couple of other auto immune diseases I cannot remember now.

May be I should give you their name so you can explain to all the doctors I saw the differences between the two?, because it seemed to be depending of the mood of the day.

I don't know if the products you are referring to "help",but what I was given was nasty I thew it up instantly,never fell so nauseous in my life, I hard great difficulty in keeping them in and fell so dizzy could not stand up.

Changed diet got rid of it in 3 days, but you are going to say it's obviously "false".

Cambodia is affected by Western Diet and has been for years.

Yes most developing countries don't have data available but some have and they have very low prevalence.

Not remotely "same same". Entirely different disease processes.

And the cause of osteoarthritis is very well understood. RA not, it is an autoimmune disease and like all autoimmune disease etiology is not well understood and may include a number of different factors.

It is indeed difficult to clinically distinguish between lupus/other autoimmune conditions and RA (actually RA is a feature of lupus and several other autoimmune conditions ). But the distinction between these things and osteoarthritis is clear and easily made. From what you describe of the side effects of the meds you were given, they were certainly not fish oil or glucosamine (which would not be used for RA/lupus etc anyhow). They were likely disease modifying drugs for RA and indeed these can be very nasty.

I have no idea what was in fact wrong with you but I very much doubt there was any serious consideration of osteoarthritis in your case unless it was prior to an initial Xray. That dietary changes resolved it would suggest some sort of reaction to substances in your previous diet, perhaps to specific food preservatives or a severe food allergy. Something like that could indeed give a clinical appearance similar to RA/lupus since in both instances the immune system is hyper-reacting. Thai doctors do tend, in my experience, to often miss diagnoses related to allergic reactions. I have a close Cambodian friend who was also misdiagnosed with RA for multiple joint pains which ultimately proved to be due to "serum sickness" initiated by a drug allergy (further exacerbated by allergic response to the drugs given for the supposed RA). It was ultimately a Thai rheumatologist who got to the bottom of that but only after a slew of them failed to.

>95% of Cambodians are utterly unaffected by "western diet". Lupus and other autoimmune conditions are highly prevalent there (as also in Thailand), and this seems to be at least in part genetic. But you did not have true lupus; lupus has never been cured by diet (and plenty of desperate lupus sufferers have tried). An inflammatory or allergic response to food additives or specific other constituents being ingested in food would, on the other hand, respond to diet and it sounds like this is what happened in your case.

Good that it did, but please do not let that lead you to believe or advocate that "all" diseases are due to diet or can be cured by diet.

[Kitsune]

I never said all diseases are diet induced.

Which source are you quoting when stating that "95% of Cambodians are unaffected by Western diet" ?

This FAO report clearly shows the rising of meat especially chicken (+36% in 4 years) and fish (+ 20% in aquaculture in 4 years) consumption.

That's only for the past 4 years but I bet it has been raising gradually before 2007.

http://www.fao.org/docrep/015/al988e/al988e00.pdf

Here are in a long non exhaustive list some of the very reputable Health organizations who DO believe osteoarthritis is diet related,and guess what? It's the exact same dietary recommendation for RA: ie eat less processed food, less meat less dairy and more fruits and veg.

Arthritis research UK http://www.arthritisresearchuk.org/arthritis-information/arthritis-and-daily-life/diet-and-arthritis.aspx

Physicians committee for responsible medicine http://www.pcrm.org/health/health-topics/foods-and-arthritis

Bio medical central http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2474/11/280

The arthritis research institute of America http://preventarthritis.org/category/diet-tips/

US National Library of Medecine http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18407528

University of Carolina http://www.unc.edu/news/archives/nov98/jordan.htm

Edited March 17, 2014 by Kitsune

[Kitsune]

Same same.

Officially no one knows the origin of arthritis of both types, so really that does not matter, especially when none of the products available manage to cure any of them.

I asked the 8 doctors I saw during the course of my race against the disease for 6 months, no one could give me an answer.

Bangkok must be in a "developing country" as no one among the 8 "specialists" I saw could give me a firm diagnostic on arthritis. Let alone which type. To be more accurate it seemed like I had them all, the more doctor I saw the more diseases I had: RA one day, may be Osteo Arthritis the next, perhaps lupus, and a couple of other auto immune diseases I cannot remember now.

May be I should give you their name so you can explain to all the doctors I saw the differences between the two?, because it seemed to be depending of the mood of the day.

I don't know if the products you are referring to "help",but what I was given was nasty I thew it up instantly,never fell so nauseous in my life, I hard great difficulty in keeping them in and fell so dizzy could not stand up.

Changed diet got rid of it in 3 days, but you are going to say it's obviously "false".

Cambodia is affected by Western Diet and has been for years.

Yes most developing countries don't have data available but some have and they have very low prevalence.

Cambodia is affected by Western Diet and has been for years.

What a load of rubbish!

Most Khmers can not afford to buy food with western influence.

In Kamphon Speu province more than 50% of people live on .50c a day,

Have you ever been to Cambodia??????????

Erm "Western diet" does not only mean eating at Pizza Hut or Mc Donald's

Edited March 17, 2014 by Kitsune

[thepool]

Kitsune

Here is a couple of extracts taken verbatim from one of the references you quote !

"No specific diet will cure rheumatoid arthritis"

"No special diet has been shown to help with osteoarthritis, but if you need to lose some weight we would recommend a balanced, reduced-calorie diet combined with regular exercise."

[Kitsune]

Kitsune

Here is a couple of extracts taken verbatim from one of the references you quote !

"No specific diet will cure rheumatoid arthritis"

"No special diet has been shown to help with osteoarthritis, but if you need to lose some weight we would recommend a balanced, reduced-calorie diet combined with regular exercise."

1/ Sorry you need to resend the links or it has no value.

2/ Extracts taken out of contexts have no meaning

3/ the second one does recommend a "balance diet' as opposed to our Sheryl who claims "diet has nothing to do with it".

[thepool]

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Kitsune

Here is a couple of extracts taken verbatim from one of the references you quote !

"No specific diet will cure rheumatoid arthritis"

"No special diet has been shown to help with osteoarthritis, but if you need to lose some weight we would recommend a balanced, reduced-calorie diet combined with regular exercise."

1/ Sorry you need to resend the links or it has no value.

2/ Extracts taken out of contexts have no meaning

3/ the second one does recommend a "balance diet' as opposed to our Sheryl who claims "diet has nothing to do with it".

1. The links were posted by you - Have you read the content?

My quotes are accurate and easily found in one of the posted links !

2 I believe you to be deliberately misquoting Sheryl --------------One can only guess why you would do that.

[Kitsune]

I have no idea what was in fact wrong with you but I very much doubt there was any serious consideration of osteoarthritis in your case unless it was prior to an initial Xray. That dietary changes resolved it would suggest some sort of reaction to substances in your previous diet, perhaps to specific food preservatives or a severe food allergy. Something like that could indeed give a clinical appearance similar to RA/lupus since in both instances the immune system is hyper-reacting. Thai doctors do tend, in my experience, to often miss diagnoses related to allergic reactions.

But you did not have true lupus; lupus has never been cured by diet (and plenty of desperate lupus sufferers have tried). An inflammatory or allergic response to food additives or specific other constituents being ingested in food would, on the other hand, respond to diet and it sounds like this is what happened in your case.

Good that it did, but please do not let that lead you to believe or advocate that "all" diseases are due to diet or can be cured by diet.

Yeah right, I also had an "allergic reaction" to something that caused:

- Extremely painful Chrone Disease: ie atrocious abdominal pains that makes people think your apendice has burst or you are about to give birth.

- Also very painful and overloaded PMS

- Psoriasis

- Constipation: And no 2/3 times a week is not normal, now it's everyday, thank God!

- Chronic fatigue

- Depression and anxiety

- Repeated Ear infections

My doctor calls it DIET, and I was told in advance all these symptoms would disappear and they did (like the arthritis).

But my doctor and I must be wrong and Sheryl right:. It was an allergy !

PS: No I am not saying ALL diseases are food induced, but many are indeed due to diet.

Edited March 17, 2014 by Kitsune

[Kitsune]

Kitsune

Here is a couple of extracts taken verbatim from one of the references you quote !

"No specific diet will cure rheumatoid arthritis"

"No special diet has been shown to help with osteoarthritis, but if you need to lose some weight we would recommend a balanced, reduced-calorie diet combined with regular exercise."

I posted half of dozen links full of detailed explanations about relation between food and arthritis, and you expect me to find a few words taken outof context?

What is this?

A joke?

[thepool]

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Kitsune

Here is a couple of extracts taken verbatim from one of the references you quote !

"No specific diet will cure rheumatoid arthritis"

"No special diet has been shown to help with osteoarthritis, but if you need to lose some weight we would recommend a balanced, reduced-calorie diet combined with regular exercise."

I posted half of dozen links full of detailed explanations about relation between food and arthritis, and you expect me to find a few words taken outof context?

What is this?

A joke?

If I post link(s) I absolutely ensure that I have read and understood the content so that I am in a position to respond to any queries !

[Sheryl]

..

Here are in a long non exhaustive list some of the very reputable Health organizations who DO believe osteoarthritis is diet related,and guess what? It's the exact same dietary recommendation for RA: ie eat less processed food, less meat less dairy and more fruits and veg.

Arthritis research UK http://www.arthritisresearchuk.org/arthritis-information/arthritis-and-daily-life/diet-and-arthritis.aspx

Physicians committee for responsible medicine http://www.pcrm.org/health/health-topics/foods-and-arthritis

Bio medical central http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2474/11/280

The arthritis research institute of America http://preventarthritis.org/category/diet-tips/

US National Library of Medecine http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18407528

University of Carolina http://www.unc.edu/news/archives/nov98/jordan.htm

Sorry but none of these sites state that osteorathritis is caused by or an be completely cured by diet, and several of them do not discuss diet and osteoarthritis at all, i.e.:

1. Arthritis research UK http://www.arthritisresearchuk.org/arthritis-information/arthritis-and-daily-life/diet-and-arthritis.aspx Discusses diet only in terms of weight loss (no question about that) and its effect on heart disease.

2. Physicians committee for responsible medicine http://www.pcrm.org/health/health-topics/foods-and-arthritis Is talking about rheumatoid arthritis. (I would also debate the idea that this site is "reputable"; it is certainly not a scientific journal and despite the name, not aimed at or likely to be utilized by health professionals or researchers).

3. US National Library of Medecine http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18407528 Is about the use of rose hips supplements.

In addition:

Bio medical central http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2474/11/280 actually concludes: "progression of hip OA might be amenable to dietary modification or nutriceutical intervention." (emphasis mine) which is entirely different from saying that OA is caused by diet.

University of Carolina http://www.unc.edu/news/archives/nov98/jordan.htm Is not a study but rather a news article about a study. In my experience these often (indeed, usually) distort actual study findings. I am unable to locate the study referred to in any of the scientific literature, but the date was 1998 and certainly no conclusive proof of a diet-OA link (other than as related to obesity) was made at that time.

I don't know if you are unable to understand what you read in these sites or not bothering to read them but in either case your post above violates Forum rules re posting inaccurate information.

[Sheryl]

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Kitsune

Here is a couple of extracts taken verbatim from one of the references you quote !

"No specific diet will cure rheumatoid arthritis"

"No special diet has been shown to help with osteoarthritis, but if you need to lose some weight we would recommend a balanced, reduced-calorie diet combined with regular exercise."

I posted half of dozen links full of detailed explanations about relation between food and arthritis, and you expect me to find a few words taken outof context?

What is this?

A joke?

If I post link(s) I absolutely ensure that I have read and understood the content so that I am in a position to respond to any queries !

Wide, since per Health Forum rules posters are fully responsible for the accuracy of what they post.

[Kitsune]

..

Here are in a long non exhaustive list some of the very reputable Health organizations who DO believe osteoarthritis is diet related,and guess what? It's the exact same dietary recommendation for RA: ie eat less processed food, less meat less dairy and more fruits and veg.

Arthritis research UK http://www.arthritisresearchuk.org/arthritis-information/arthritis-and-daily-life/diet-and-arthritis.aspx

Physicians committee for responsible medicine http://www.pcrm.org/health/health-topics/foods-and-arthritis

Bio medical central http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2474/11/280

The arthritis research institute of America http://preventarthritis.org/category/diet-tips/

US National Library of Medecine http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18407528

University of Carolina http://www.unc.edu/news/archives/nov98/jordan.htm

Sorry but none of these sites state that osteorathritis is caused by or an be completely cured by diet, and several of them do not discuss diet and osteoarthritis at all, i.e.:

1. Arthritis research UK http://www.arthritisresearchuk.org/arthritis-information/arthritis-and-daily-life/diet-and-arthritis.aspx Discusses diet only in terms of weight loss (no question about that) and its effect on heart disease.

2. Physicians committee for responsible medicine http://www.pcrm.org/health/health-topics/foods-and-arthritis Is talking about rheumatoid arthritis. (I would also debate the idea that this site is "reputable"; it is certainly not a scientific journal and despite the name, not aimed at or likely to be utilized by health professionals or researchers).

3. US National Library of Medecine http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18407528 Is about the use of rose hips supplements.

In addition:

Bio medical central http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2474/11/280 actually concludes: "progression of hip OA might be amenable to dietary modification or nutriceutical intervention." (emphasis mine) which is entirely different from saying that OA is caused by diet.

University of Carolina http://www.unc.edu/news/archives/nov98/jordan.htm Is not a study but rather a news article about a study. In my experience these often (indeed, usually) distort actual study findings. I am unable to locate the study referred to in any of the scientific literature, but the date was 1998 and certainly no conclusive proof of a diet-OA link (other than as related to obesity) was made at that time.

I don't know if you are unable to understand what you read in these sites or not bothering to read them but in either case your post above violates Forum rules re posting inaccurate information.

My goodness!

You do want me to read them for you?

OK

http://www.arthritisresearchuk.org/arthritis-information/arthritis-and-daily-life/diet-and-arthritis.aspx

Why is diet important?

A healthy, balanced diet will help to:

• reduce strain on your joints by keeping to a healthy weight
• protect you against heart disease and some of the potential side-effects of drugs.

- See more at: http://www.arthritisresearchuk.org/arthritis-information/arthritis-and-daily-life/diet-and-arthritis.aspx#sthash.W7UCO34X.dpuf

Why is diet important?

A healthy, balanced diet will help to:

• reduce strain on your joints by keeping to a healthy weight
• protect you against heart disease and some of the potential side-effects of drugs.

- See more at: http://www.arthritisresearchuk.org/arthritis-information/arthritis-and-daily-life/diet-and-arthritis.aspx#sthash.W7UCO34X.dpuf

Why is diet important?

A healthy, balanced diet will help to:

• reduce strain on your joints by keeping to a healthy weight
• protect you against heart disease and some of the potential side-effects of drugs.

- See more at: http://www.arthritisresearchuk.org/arthritis-information/arthritis-and-daily-life/diet-and-arthritis.aspx#sthash.W7UCO34X.dpuf

Why is diet important ?

Although there are no diets or dietary supplements that will cure your arthritis, some people do find that a change in diet can improve their symptoms. But because people are all different and there are many different types of arthritis, what works for one person and their symptoms may not work for another.

It’s still worth thinking about your diet for the following reasons:

• If you’re overweight, losing some weight will reduce the strain on your joints so you may find you don’t need to take painkillers quite so often.
• A good diet can help to protect you against some potential side-effects of drugs.
• A healthy diet can also help to protect against heart disease (which can sometimes be a complication of certain types of arthritis).

- See more at: http://www.arthritisresearchuk.org/arthritis-information/arthritis-and-daily-life/diet-and-arthritis/why-is-diet-important.aspx#sthash.DTAqD92t.dpuf

Although there are no diets or dietary supplements that will cure your arthritis, some people do find that a change in diet can improve their symptoms. But because people are all different and there are many different types of arthritis, what works for one person and their symptoms may not work for another.

It’s still worth thinking about your diet for the following reasons:

• If you’re overweight, losing some weight will reduce the strain on your joints so you may find you don’t need to take painkillers quite so often.
• A good diet can help to protect you against some potential side-effects of drugs.
• A healthy diet can also help to protect against heart disease (which can sometimes be a complication of certain types of arthritis).

- See more at: http://www.arthritisresearchuk.org/arthritis-information/arthritis-and-daily-life/diet-and-arthritis/why-is-diet-important.aspx#sthash.DTAqD92t.dpuf

Although there are no diets or dietary supplements that will cure your arthritis, some people do find that a change in diet can improve their symptoms. But because people are all different and there are many different types of arthritis, what works for one person and their symptoms may not work for another.

It’s still worth thinking about your diet for the following reasons:

• If you’re overweight, losing some weight will reduce the strain on your joints so you may find you don’t need to take painkillers quite so often.
• A good diet can help to protect you against some potential side-effects of drugs.
• A healthy diet can also help to protect against heart disease (which can sometimes be a complication of certain types of arthritis).
  How can changing my diet help my arthritis?

Several links between arthritis and diet have been discovered through research. The two most important things to think about are:

• whether you’re a healthy weight
• whether your diet provides enough important vitamins and minerals.

If you have arthritis, doing all of the following is likely to help:

• Eat a balanced and varied diet to maximise your intake of vitamins, minerals, antioxidants and other nutrients.
• Change the type of fats and oils you eat and include oily fish and olive or rapeseed oil.
• Eat a more Mediterranean-style diet with plenty of fruit and vegetables.
• Get regular exercise.

Do I have to take each of them ?

[Kitsune]

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Kitsune

Here is a couple of extracts taken verbatim from one of the references you quote !

"No specific diet will cure rheumatoid arthritis"

"No special diet has been shown to help with osteoarthritis, but if you need to lose some weight we would recommend a balanced, reduced-calorie diet combined with regular exercise."

I posted half of dozen links full of detailed explanations about relation between food and arthritis, and you expect me to find a few words taken outof context?

What is this?

A joke?

If I post link(s) I absolutely ensure that I have read and understood the content so that I am in a position to respond to any queries !

Wide, since per Health Forum rules posters are fully responsible for the accuracy of what they post.

Do you mean accurately "wise"? lol

[thepool]

Kitsune

By attempting to make issue about a simple typo I suspect another breach of Forum rules has been made.

[Sheryl]

A flaming exchange between two posters has been removed. Please let us get back on topic. Which for those who may have forgotten, was:

Fish Oil and Glucosamine and where to obtain them.

[Kitsune]

A flaming exchange between two posters has been removed. Please let us get back on topic. Which for those who may have forgotten, was:

Fish Oil and Glucosamine and where to obtain them.

To be correct the OP was asking about Omega 3,which is not just present in fish oil, but other supplements which don't contain PCBs and are risk-free such as microalgeas or yeast based EPA/DHA supplements

Edited March 17, 2014 by Sheryl
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[VisaEd]

So would omega 6 be a better choice than 3?

Don't suppose anyone can point me in the cheapest source in Thailand?

I see flax oil is available online for 600 baht for 500ml. Any good?

Thanks.

[Kitsune]

So would omega 6 be a better choice than 3?

Don't suppose anyone can point me in the cheapest source in Thailand?

I see flax oil is available online for 600 baht for 500ml. Any good?

Thanks.

I personally take 1 teaspoon of crushed Flaxseeds a day,

Available whole from Villa, you just grind them in blender.

Edited March 18, 2014 by Kitsune

[Jessi]

Same same.

Officially no one knows the origin of arthritis of both types, so really that does not matter, especially when none of the products available manage to cure any of them.

I asked the 8 doctors I saw during the course of my race against the disease for 6 months, no one could give me an answer.

Bangkok must be in a "developing country" as no one among the 8 "specialists" I saw could give me a firm diagnostic on arthritis. Let alone which type. To be more accurate it seemed like I had them all, the more doctor I saw the more diseases I had: RA one day, may be Osteo Arthritis the next, perhaps lupus, and a couple of other auto immune diseases I cannot remember now.

May be I should give you their name so you can explain to all the doctors I saw the differences between the two?, because it seemed to be depending of the mood of the day.

I don't know if the products you are referring to "help",but what I was given was nasty I thew it up instantly,never fell so nauseous in my life, I hard great difficulty in keeping them in and fell so dizzy could not stand up.

Changed diet got rid of it in 3 days, but you are going to say it's obviously "false".

Cambodia is affected by Western Diet and has been for years.

Yes most developing countries don't have data available but some have and they have very low prevalence.

Cambodia is affected by Western Diet and has been for years.

What a load of rubbish!

Most Khmers can not afford to buy food with western influence.

In Kamphon Speu province more than 50% of people live on .50c a day,

Have you ever been to Cambodia??????????

Erm "Western diet" does not only mean eating at Pizza Hut or Mc Donald's

So you have never been to Cambodia? No McDonalds in Cambodia.

You keep getting your information from the internet, Its much better to live in a country before making comments about it, nothing like personal experience.