If Yingluck is indicted, major players will have to talk

[Publicus]

The PTP did well with reforms last year. The Amnesty bill seemed to be well accepted. I'm sure they can be trusted to put forward unbiased reforms if they're back in government.

All sides need to learn from the insanity that has brought the country to this point, which is a precipice, to include the usual suspect posters here. If the Nation can learn, so can the usual suspects.

The Thaksin proxy parties haven't learned from the past. The yellow shirts started protesting against PPP because they tried to whitewash Thaksin's crimes. PTP didn't learn from that and tried to do it again.

The army has become wise to the fact the people do not want another military mutiny coup d'état. Given the nature of the culture, however, it still cannot be ruled out in the absolute, but the fact Suthep and his backers want one reveals their inflexible feudal mentality of extra-constitutionalism. (And I don't believe for a moment the strawman ruse of many that the PTP or the reds want another military mutiny.)

The courts too are nervous because they can see the red flags that indicate another judicial coup would create the same problems a coup d'état would create. The OP indicates some among the feudal elites are recognizing the dead end nature of the attitude you explicitly state, i.e., absolutism. The OP has tried to suggest in pretty mild terms the severely irreversible consequence of the absolutist attitude the hardest core elitists have.

You who are the hardest core elitist feudalists remain zero-sum, win-lose, punishingly obey-disobey in your absolutist attitude towards the ongoing conflicts that bedevil the society and the country. The winner-take-all attitude is primitive, destructive, guarantees only continued escalation of serious differences and shall produce only a more severe conflict because you offer no off ramps or speed bumps to the barreling convoys.

The die-hard militants make me think of how I often drove through an S curve in the countryside of the far South and one day saw a new traffic sign that read, "Accident Ahead." I also saw a fahlang I didn't know standing in the brush with a camera. I see the stranger is still determined to get his photo of the accident ahead.

[The Deerhunter]

>>"The PDRC and the Democrats have common supporters"

As my teenage daughter would say, "Duh!.....Yeah!"

>>"The Democrat leader realises that if an agreement cannot be reached between Yingluck and Suthep or Suthep and Yingluck's brother, ex-premier Thaksin , the impasse will continue and there will be no sign of it ending".

I see the media persisting in its' efforts to separate the Govt. from it's majority electorate.....As if this this is a dispute between coup-mongers and Yingluck/Thaksin.

>>"So, the only way to unlock the political stand-off is negotiations between the key stakeholders".

That has already occurred. The most 'key' of all stakeholders is the electorate..They have spoken...I can understand why anti-Democrats want to nullify and refuse to tabulate that election, and reduce the electorate to a few people in BKK, negotiating with a minority on equal terms. It is why they try to avoid Parliament for such so-called 'negotiations' and debate, because there, THEY are reduced to their rightful numbers.

But the "anti-election Commission" and their judiciary brother's-in-arms, refuse to look at the election outcome, which they quite correctly fear.

These people refuse to acknowledge their fight is with an electoral majority, and hope that other's don't see through that smoke.

And BTW, there is no impasse or political stand-off......Coup-mongering does not a political impasse and political stand-off make. There is a very clear electoral and Parliamentary majority. If this was a 50-50 thing, then we could talk about impasse, deadlock and gridlock.

The coup-mongers relish doing what they are doing with their minority status, and using the Independent organizations and judiciary instead of Parliament to even things up.

Look mate. The only one banging on about coups is you. The othr side obviously don't want one. The military dose not want one or it would have been done months ago. Give this coup rubbish a rest, for Pete's sake. Do you want one??? Is that it???

[Publicus]

" The government is thus doing everything to hold a fresh poll as soon as possible. To achieve this, the party will have to talk with the PDRC, the Democrats and the EC. "

But they aren't ! How can the " government " be " doing everything to hold a fresh poll as soon as possible " without talking to the EC ? How in the world to they arrange an election when they continue to refuse to talk to the EC, in fact want the EC to resign, and sue them for 3.8 billion baht ? Pheu Thai is now far too busy railing against the Constitutional Court ruling - which they must instinctively believe will lead to it being changed, and writing to the UN to issue a condemnation of the Constitutional Court and the checks and balances of the independent agencies. The only progress Pheu Thai have made in recent days is that Yingluck - now without a wheelchair or any form of support - appears to have made a full recovery. The Pheu Thai administration talks about the constitution a lot, But they are in the trouble they are in because of massive infractions of it - the amnesty bill, the Senate bill, the rice scandal, the infrastructure bill bypassing proper parliamentary processes, passed with Pheu Thai MPs casting multiple votes, calling for the impeachment of the judges of the Constitutional Court, appointing new ones, for going after the independent agencies, the Civil Court and the Criminal Court, having two cabinet ministers endorse a UDD platform that calls for secession. Yes, Pheu Thai is really interested in the constitutional process ! And they keep talking about an appointed interim prime minister as being unconstitutional when they know full well that Article 7 specifically outlines the process by which - in the event of a parliamentary vacuum, that an interim prime minister is nominated through the Senate. Article 7 is crystal clear. No Pheu Thai official - even Chalerm - has ever referred to Article 7 in the last three months. Why ? Because it's simply too clear. It completely capsizes their argument. Pheu Thai and the UDD are operating from the premise that if you so say something isn't constitutional, then it isn't. But Pheu Thai itself has brought on its own present crisis by a string of brazenly unconstitutional practices. Pheu Thai have absolutely nothing to stand on. And they know it.

Why are you the only guy in Thailand still talking about Article 7. Aren't you also the guy who 30 daze ago [sic] was pronouncing YS officially removed from the PM position? Even the PDRC and the CC don't talk about Article 7. Chalerm had the last word on this citing Article 181, the 30 days after the parliament first sits provision.

I guess some people are just self-marginalizing eccentrics.

You also have no reservation talking about a constitution the Thai people, UN and the world knows was written by a coup ruling body and imposed on the country in a diktat referendum by military coup d'état rulers. The extant constitution isn't worth the paper its written on. Everything about the coup written constitution is unconstitutional, from who wrote it and how, right up to the present.

You're riding a buffalo.

[Robby nz]

>>"The PDRC and the Democrats have common supporters"

As my teenage daughter would say, "Duh!.....Yeah!"

>>"The Democrat leader realises that if an agreement cannot be reached between Yingluck and Suthep or Suthep and Yingluck's brother, ex-premier Thaksin , the impasse will continue and there will be no sign of it ending".

I see the media persisting in its' efforts to separate the Govt. from it's majority electorate.....As if this this is a dispute between coup-mongers and Yingluck/Thaksin.

>>"So, the only way to unlock the political stand-off is negotiations between the key stakeholders".

That has already occurred. The most 'key' of all stakeholders is the electorate..They have spoken...I can understand why anti-Democrats want to nullify and refuse to tabulate that election, and reduce the electorate to a few people in BKK, negotiating with a minority on equal terms. It is why they try to avoid Parliament for such so-called 'negotiations' and debate, because there, THEY are reduced to their rightful numbers.

But the "anti-election Commission" and their judiciary brother's-in-arms, refuse to look at the election outcome, which they quite correctly fear.

These people refuse to acknowledge their fight is with an electoral majority, and hope that other's don't see through that smoke.

And BTW, there is no impasse or political stand-off......Coup-mongering does not a political impasse and political stand-off make. There is a very clear electoral and Parliamentary majority. If this was a 50-50 thing, then we could talk about impasse, deadlock and gridlock.

The coup-mongers relish doing what they are doing with their minority status, and using the Independent organizations and judiciary instead of Parliament to even things up.

Look mate. The only one banging on about coups is you. The othr side obviously don't want one. The military dose not want one or it would have been done months ago. Give this coup rubbish a rest, for Pete's sake. Do you want one??? Is that it???

PT and Thaksin want one in fact they desperately need one as the only way out of the mess they have got themselves into.

Should there be a coup, which their wont be, then they would scream how their legal democratic Govt was overthrown by the dastardly military. International sympathy.

They could be the Govt in exile somewhere overseas with the billions they have scammed. Safe from any problems and legal issues.

They would have someone to blame for everything like the tablet cock up and why the new car owners didn't get paid.

It would be up to the army or whoever was put in Govt to pay the farmers and try to sort out the rice pledge mess as well as put something in place as a farmers support scheme.

And of course Thaksin would have the option of bringing out his armed red mob to start a civil war if he thought it would be to his advantage.

But the army brass knows this and are not having any of it.

[Local Drunk]

" The government is thus doing everything to hold a fresh poll as soon as possible. To achieve this, the party will have to talk with the PDRC, the Democrats and the EC. "

But they aren't ! How can the " government " be " doing everything to hold a fresh poll as soon as possible " without talking to the EC ? How in the world to they arrange an election when they continue to refuse to talk to the EC, in fact want the EC to resign, and sue them for 3.8 billion baht ? Pheu Thai is now far too busy railing against the Constitutional Court ruling - which they must instinctively believe will lead to it being changed, and writing to the UN to issue a condemnation of the Constitutional Court and the checks and balances of the independent agencies. The only progress Pheu Thai have made in recent days is that Yingluck - now without a wheelchair or any form of support - appears to have made a full recovery. The Pheu Thai administration talks about the constitution a lot, But they are in the trouble they are in because of massive infractions of it - the amnesty bill, the Senate bill, the rice scandal, the infrastructure bill bypassing proper parliamentary processes, passed with Pheu Thai MPs casting multiple votes, calling for the impeachment of the judges of the Constitutional Court, appointing new ones, for going after the independent agencies, the Civil Court and the Criminal Court, having two cabinet ministers endorse a UDD platform that calls for secession. Yes, Pheu Thai is really interested in the constitutional process ! And they keep talking about an appointed interim prime minister as being unconstitutional when they know full well that Article 7 specifically outlines the process by which - in the event of a parliamentary vacuum, that an interim prime minister is nominated through the Senate. Article 7 is crystal clear. No Pheu Thai official - even Chalerm - has ever referred to Article 7 in the last three months. Why ? Because it's simply too clear. It completely capsizes their argument. Pheu Thai and the UDD are operating from the premise that if you so say something isn't constitutional, then it isn't. But Pheu Thai itself has brought on its own present crisis by a string of brazenly unconstitutional practices. Pheu Thai have absolutely nothing to stand on. And they know it.

Why are you the only guy in Thailand still talking about Article 7. Aren't you also the guy who 30 daze ago [sic] was pronouncing YS officially removed from the PM position? Even the PDRC and the CC don't talk about Article 7. Chalerm had the last word on this citing Article 181, the 30 days after the parliament first sits provision.

I guess some people are just self-marginalizing eccentrics.

You also have no reservation talking about a constitution the Thai people, UN and the world knows was written by a coup ruling body and imposed on the country in a diktat referendum by military coup d'état rulers. The extant constitution isn't worth the paper its written on. Everything about the coup written constitution is unconstitutional, from who wrote it and how, right up to the present.

You're riding a buffalo.

Chalerm had the last word... a bit frightening don't you think?

[Publicus]

" The government is thus doing everything to hold a fresh poll as soon as possible. To achieve this, the party will have to talk with the PDRC, the Democrats and the EC. "

But they aren't ! How can the " government " be " doing everything to hold a fresh poll as soon as possible " without talking to the EC ? How in the world to they arrange an election when they continue to refuse to talk to the EC, in fact want the EC to resign, and sue them for 3.8 billion baht ? Pheu Thai is now far too busy railing against the Constitutional Court ruling - which they must instinctively believe will lead to it being changed, and writing to the UN to issue a condemnation of the Constitutional Court and the checks and balances of the independent agencies. The only progress Pheu Thai have made in recent days is that Yingluck - now without a wheelchair or any form of support - appears to have made a full recovery. The Pheu Thai administration talks about the constitution a lot, But they are in the trouble they are in because of massive infractions of it - the amnesty bill, the Senate bill, the rice scandal, the infrastructure bill bypassing proper parliamentary processes, passed with Pheu Thai MPs casting multiple votes, calling for the impeachment of the judges of the Constitutional Court, appointing new ones, for going after the independent agencies, the Civil Court and the Criminal Court, having two cabinet ministers endorse a UDD platform that calls for secession. Yes, Pheu Thai is really interested in the constitutional process ! And they keep talking about an appointed interim prime minister as being unconstitutional when they know full well that Article 7 specifically outlines the process by which - in the event of a parliamentary vacuum, that an interim prime minister is nominated through the Senate. Article 7 is crystal clear. No Pheu Thai official - even Chalerm - has ever referred to Article 7 in the last three months. Why ? Because it's simply too clear. It completely capsizes their argument. Pheu Thai and the UDD are operating from the premise that if you so say something isn't constitutional, then it isn't. But Pheu Thai itself has brought on its own present crisis by a string of brazenly unconstitutional practices. Pheu Thai have absolutely nothing to stand on. And they know it.

Why are you the only guy in Thailand still talking about Article 7. Aren't you also the guy who 30 daze ago [sic] was pronouncing YS officially removed from the PM position? Even the PDRC and the CC don't talk about Article 7. Chalerm had the last word on this citing Article 181, the 30 days after the parliament first sits provision.

I guess some people are just self-marginalizing eccentrics.

You also have no reservation talking about a constitution the Thai people, UN and the world knows was written by a coup ruling body and imposed on the country in a diktat referendum by military coup d'état rulers. The extant constitution isn't worth the paper its written on. Everything about the coup written constitution is unconstitutional, from who wrote it and how, right up to the present.

You're riding a buffalo.

Chalerm had the last word... a bit frightening don't you think?

Pretty much so but you'd also know that when herds of buffaloes and elephants fight the grass gets trampled and villages get knocked flat. Get stomped by either a buffalo or an elephant, all that matters is one gets stomped. TiT.

Edited March 25, 2014 by Publicus

[mikemac]

>>"The PDRC and the Democrats have common supporters"

As my teenage daughter would say, "Duh!.....Yeah!"

>>"The Democrat leader realises that if an agreement cannot be reached between Yingluck and Suthep or Suthep and Yingluck's brother, ex-premier Thaksin , the impasse will continue and there will be no sign of it ending".

I see the media persisting in its' efforts to separate the Govt. from it's majority electorate.....As if this this is a dispute between coup-mongers and Yingluck/Thaksin.

>>"So, the only way to unlock the political stand-off is negotiations between the key stakeholders".

That has already occurred. The most 'key' of all stakeholders is the electorate..They have spoken...I can understand why anti-Democrats want to nullify and refuse to tabulate that election, and reduce the electorate to a few people in BKK, negotiating with a minority on equal terms. It is why they try to avoid Parliament for such so-called 'negotiations' and debate, because there, THEY are reduced to their rightful numbers.

But the "anti-election Commission" and their judiciary brother's-in-arms, refuse to look at the election outcome, which they quite correctly fear.

These people refuse to acknowledge their fight is with an electoral majority, and hope that other's don't see through that smoke.

And BTW, there is no impasse or political stand-off......Coup-mongering does not a political impasse and political stand-off make. There is a very clear electoral and Parliamentary majority. If this was a 50-50 thing, then we could talk about impasse, deadlock and gridlock.

The coup-mongers relish doing what they are doing with their minority status, and using the Independent organizations and judiciary instead of Parliament to even things up.

Look mate. The only one banging on about coups is you. The othr side obviously don't want one. The military dose not want one or it would have been done months ago. Give this coup rubbish a rest, for Pete's sake. Do you want one??? Is that it???

Wow ! Can you imagine the countless pages of dribble he would produce if there was a coup ?

But you are correct about who wants a coup, Thaksin would like nothing better, would suit his plans perfectly. Which is why the army will not give him one, would rather just wait it out until the PTP self-destructs and all it's crim members are behind bars, or hiding out in Dubai like the rats they are.

[bulekee]

>>"The PDRC and the Democrats have common supporters"

As my teenage daughter would say, "Duh!.....Yeah!"

>>"The Democrat leader realises that if an agreement cannot be reached between Yingluck and Suthep or Suthep and Yingluck's brother, ex-premier Thaksin , the impasse will continue and there will be no sign of it ending".

I see the media persisting in its' efforts to separate the Govt. from it's majority electorate.....As if this this is a dispute between coup-mongers and Yingluck/Thaksin.

>>"So, the only way to unlock the political stand-off is negotiations between the key stakeholders".

That has already occurred. The most 'key' of all stakeholders is the electorate..They have spoken...I can understand why anti-Democrats want to nullify and refuse to tabulate that election, and reduce the electorate to a few people in BKK, negotiating with a minority on equal terms. It is why they try to avoid Parliament for such so-called 'negotiations' and debate, because there, THEY are reduced to their rightful numbers.

But the "anti-election Commission" and their judiciary brother's-in-arms, refuse to look at the election outcome, which they quite correctly fear.

These people refuse to acknowledge their fight is with an electoral majority, and hope that other's don't see through that smoke.

And BTW, there is no impasse or political stand-off......Coup-mongering does not a political impasse and political stand-off make. There is a very clear electoral and Parliamentary majority. If this was a 50-50 thing, then we could talk about impasse, deadlock and gridlock.

The coup-mongers relish doing what they are doing with their minority status, and using the Independent organizations and judiciary instead of Parliament to even things up.

Erm a bit of topic Fb,but do you need a work permit to be a lobbyist or propagandist for the PTP and do they have a pension scheme ?

[mikemac]

>>"The PDRC and the Democrats have common supporters"

As my teenage daughter would say, "Duh!.....Yeah!"

>>"The Democrat leader realises that if an agreement cannot be reached between Yingluck and Suthep or Suthep and Yingluck's brother, ex-premier Thaksin , the impasse will continue and there will be no sign of it ending".

I see the media persisting in its' efforts to separate the Govt. from it's majority electorate.....As if this this is a dispute between coup-mongers and Yingluck/Thaksin.

>>"So, the only way to unlock the political stand-off is negotiations between the key stakeholders".

That has already occurred. The most 'key' of all stakeholders is the electorate..They have spoken...I can understand why anti-Democrats want to nullify and refuse to tabulate that election, and reduce the electorate to a few people in BKK, negotiating with a minority on equal terms. It is why they try to avoid Parliament for such so-called 'negotiations' and debate, because there, THEY are reduced to their rightful numbers.

But the "anti-election Commission" and their judiciary brother's-in-arms, refuse to look at the election outcome, which they quite correctly fear.

These people refuse to acknowledge their fight is with an electoral majority, and hope that other's don't see through that smoke.

And BTW, there is no impasse or political stand-off......Coup-mongering does not a political impasse and political stand-off make. There is a very clear electoral and Parliamentary majority. If this was a 50-50 thing, then we could talk about impasse, deadlock and gridlock.

The coup-mongers relish doing what they are doing with their minority status, and using the Independent organizations and judiciary instead of Parliament to even things up.

Erm a bit of topic Fb,but do you need a work permit to be a lobbyist or propagandist for the PTP and do they have a pension scheme ?

I love the smell of sarcasm in the morning !

Edited March 25, 2014 by mikemac

[mrwebb8825]

The PDRC needs to recognize the people reject a "People's Council" because they oppose an appointed politburo type of ruling body. Abhisit and the DP need to recognize and respect that the people want a safe election that is clean. PTP need to agree reforms will be promulgated. Reforms need to be discussed openly, by an elected parliament of the two leading parties along with the other parties.

Reforms are meaningless if only one side elbows its way to state power, once there gathers up its own incestuous grouping, itself only writes new laws and rules that only it likes, then imposes them from their exclusive perch down onto the huddled masses who otherwise don't get any say.

One sided reforms enabled via a power grab by a closed clique is a guarantee of failure, so people hollering for "reform" need to be inclusive rather than exclusive, play well with others, proceed mutually and cooperatively, constructively, rather than approach the issues as the lord and master who will purify society by expelling from the country certain Thais they don't like, and by further imposing themselves on the others.

The PDRC and the DP need to cease their absolute, zero-sum approach, stop their win-lose destructive attitude and their punishing obey-disobey mentality

I like this post a lot.

These political issues are grown-up problems that need to be solved by mature discussion and adult life-skills such as empathy and consensus-forming, at state level and not on street-corners.

Politics is a game like any sport, your team has to train hard, and be competitive, play by the rules, win and lose gracefully. Standing at the sidelines saying you refuse to play until the game's rules are changed in your favour would be unthinkable to a sportsman.

Also a bad sportsman who cheats or behaves in an undignified manner on the field, he sullies not only his own name but the name of the sport itself - so too can a bad politician tarnish the name of democratic processes. This is very important, because in most sports a bad player is seen as insulting to the actual game itself and brings shame on all people playing that game - this shared condemnation of "bad form" must be replicated in politics.

What planet do you live on? I might like to visit.

[metisdead]

Defamatory troll posts have been removed as well as the replies.

[Fryslan boppe]

>>"The PDRC and the Democrats have common supporters"

As my teenage daughter would say, "Duh!.....Yeah!"

>>"The Democrat leader realises that if an agreement cannot be reached between Yingluck and Suthep or Suthep and Yingluck's brother, ex-premier Thaksin , the impasse will continue and there will be no sign of it ending".

I see the media persisting in its' efforts to separate the Govt. from it's majority electorate.....As if this this is a dispute between coup-mongers and Yingluck/Thaksin.

>>"So, the only way to unlock the political stand-off is negotiations between the key stakeholders".

That has already occurred. The most 'key' of all stakeholders is the electorate..They have spoken...I can understand why anti-Democrats want to nullify and refuse to tabulate that election, and reduce the electorate to a few people in BKK, negotiating with a minority on equal terms. It is why they try to avoid Parliament for such so-called 'negotiations' and debate, because there, THEY are reduced to their rightful numbers.

But the "anti-election Commission" and their judiciary brother's-in-arms, refuse to look at the election outcome, which they quite correctly fear.

These people refuse to acknowledge their fight is with an electoral majority, and hope that other's don't see through that smoke.

And BTW, there is no impasse or political stand-off......Coup-mongering does not a political impasse and political stand-off make. There is a very clear electoral and Parliamentary majority. If this was a 50-50 thing, then we could talk about impasse, deadlock and gridlock.

The coup-mongers relish doing what they are doing with their minority status, and using the Independent organizations and judiciary instead of Parliament to even things up.

Just wanted to see if you could post without using either "elitist" or "coup-mongering". Nope, guess they must be part of your quota.

Interesting how the message is avoided.

[bigbamboo]

>>"The PDRC and the Democrats have common supporters"

As my teenage daughter would say, "Duh!.....Yeah!"

>>"The Democrat leader realises that if an agreement cannot be reached between Yingluck and Suthep or Suthep and Yingluck's brother, ex-premier Thaksin , the impasse will continue and there will be no sign of it ending".

I see the media persisting in its' efforts to separate the Govt. from it's majority electorate.....As if this this is a dispute between coup-mongers and Yingluck/Thaksin.

>>"So, the only way to unlock the political stand-off is negotiations between the key stakeholders".

That has already occurred. The most 'key' of all stakeholders is the electorate..They have spoken...I can understand why anti-Democrats want to nullify and refuse to tabulate that election, and reduce the electorate to a few people in BKK, negotiating with a minority on equal terms. It is why they try to avoid Parliament for such so-called 'negotiations' and debate, because there, THEY are reduced to their rightful numbers.

But the "anti-election Commission" and their judiciary brother's-in-arms, refuse to look at the election outcome, which they quite correctly fear.

These people refuse to acknowledge their fight is with an electoral majority, and hope that other's don't see through that smoke.

And BTW, there is no impasse or political stand-off......Coup-mongering does not a political impasse and political stand-off make. There is a very clear electoral and Parliamentary majority. If this was a 50-50 thing, then we could talk about impasse, deadlock and gridlock.

The coup-mongers relish doing what they are doing with their minority status, and using the Independent organizations and judiciary instead of Parliament to even things up.

Sounds like your teenage daughter is the brains of the family.

[bkkbarbara]

>>"The PDRC and the Democrats have common supporters"

As my teenage daughter would say, "Duh!.....Yeah!"

>>"The Democrat leader realises that if an agreement cannot be reached between Yingluck and Suthep or Suthep and Yingluck's brother, ex-premier Thaksin , the impasse will continue and there will be no sign of it ending".

I see the media persisting in its' efforts to separate the Govt. from it's majority electorate.....As if this this is a dispute between coup-mongers and Yingluck/Thaksin.

>>"So, the only way to unlock the political stand-off is negotiations between the key stakeholders".

That has already occurred. The most 'key' of all stakeholders is the electorate..They have spoken...I can understand why anti-Democrats want to nullify and refuse to tabulate that election, and reduce the electorate to a few people in BKK, negotiating with a minority on equal terms. It is why they try to avoid Parliament for such so-called 'negotiations' and debate, because there, THEY are reduced to their rightful numbers.

But the "anti-election Commission" and their judiciary brother's-in-arms, refuse to look at the election outcome, which they quite correctly fear.

These people refuse to acknowledge their fight is with an electoral majority, and hope that other's don't see through that smoke.

And BTW, there is no impasse or political stand-off......Coup-mongering does not a political impasse and political stand-off make. There is a very clear electoral and Parliamentary majority. If this was a 50-50 thing, then we could talk about impasse, deadlock and gridlock.

The coup-mongers relish doing what they are doing with their minority status, and using the Independent organizations and judiciary instead of Parliament to even things up.

Just wanted to see if you could post without using either "elitist" or "coup-mongering". Nope, guess they must be part of your quota.

Interesting how the message is avoided.

Not surprising really, political buzzwords lose their punch when used ad nauseam. It’s also clear, that unlike many of us, you would never consider that you might be wrong.

[Smokemachine]

and on another note, it looks like "Miss Poo" has healed very quickly from her fractured bone/torn ligament that she faked for sympathy and has ditched the wheelchair.

ETA: semi-ninja'd by a local drunk

Sitting in a wheelchair doesn't fit nice with her LV bag.

[JamesDean3]

Yingluck will be indicted and will be driven out from office. She should also be put in jail for putting their Clans interests above the interest of the country.