Natthawut claims Suthep will become supreme leader

[northernjohn]

UDD unveils list of persons expected to be invited to join interim government

BANGKOK, 27 March 2014 (NNT) – United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship (UDD) secretary-general Nattawut Saikuar on Wednesday unveiled his list of persons expected to be invited to form an interim government, should an interim prime minister be appointed in accordance with the People's Democratic Reform Committee (PDRC)'s demand.

According to Mr. Nattawut, those expected to be approached for the forming of an interim government included Thanong Bidaya, who has clearly expressed agreement with the PDRC's calls; M.R. Pridiyathorn Devakula, former deputy prime minister, finance minister and Bank of Thailand governor; Dr. Narong Sahamethaphat, permanent-secretary to the Ministry of Public Health; Pramon Sutthiwong, president of the Anti-corruption Organization of Thailand (ACT); Charan Phakdithanakun, Constitutional Court judge; Sombat Thamrongthanyawong, rector of National Institute of Development Administration (NADA); Suraphon Nitikraiphot, former rector of Thammasat University; Seri Wongmonthaka, an independent academic.

Those expected to be invited to the "people's council" included former Bangkok senator Kaewsan Atibodhi, Thammasat University rector Somkhit Loetphaithun, and 'senior figure' Dr. Prawet Wasi, added the UDD leader.

Deputy Prime Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul indicated on Wednesday that individuals whose names appeared on the list should come out to publicly decline to accept such an offer, before society believed that they intended to become interim prime minister.

-- NNT 2014-03-27

Deputy Prime Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul indicated on Wednesday that individuals whose names appeared on the list should come out to publicly decline to accept such an offer, before society believed that they intended to become interim prime minister.

That way when Yingluck is impeached he could say see I told you all Suthep wants all the power. Clever move on his part but probably the only transparent thing he has done.

Just leave Suthep the only one willing to do the job. NOT. There are other people who will have a list of names. I bet there is a guy I can't talk about He is like a high so so nameless who has an idea and he will not say but some unofficial unnamed source will unofficially let the name be unofficially dropped in certain places.

[northernjohn]

What a swell opinion the caretaker deputy commerce minister Nattawut has. I wonder what the opinion of the caretaker labour minster is? What will tomorrow's headlines read? Suthep claims Nattawut wants to become the supreme leader. It is as plausible as Nattawuts claim. They are both baseless, empty statements centered on a "belief" of which is even a stretch in this instance.

This is the vocal stylings of an accused terrorist 3 days before yingluck has to defend herself at the NACC. This caretaker commerce minister is also a leader of the terrorist wing of the PTP. Talk about conflicts of interests. He leads the largest unemployed, disenfranchised, radicalized and undisciplined street gang in history to protect the government he is a minister in. One could speculate that the 200 000 strong street gang is directly under the control of the PTP then, not that that was ever in doubt. Flashbacks of Europe in the 1940's come to mind. I remember other govt.'s that had there own militia that did their dirty work too.

So lets keep hearing your opinion Nattawut to take our minds of you moving your militia….sorry the PTP street gang, around Bangkok and overrun military check points to amass a "front line" around the NACC in your attempt to denigrate that principle of democracy called the rule of law.

One opinion I would like to hear though is yinglucks? This muppet is a commerce minister and terrorist leader. In Thailand unfortunately he and the labour minister can get away with making baseless accusations which is why we hear them. They can act with impunity. yingluck can't get away with it though. Even though she stated she will not respect some principles of democracy because it loosens her grip on power she is also accountable for what she says in the capacity of the PM. That is why we don't hear from her. The more these muppets speak the more I want to hear what yingluck has to say. Or is thaksin in a "zugzwang" when looking upon that playing board at that particular piece in the corner being defended by 3 little pawns.

What a conundrum thaksin has positioned this regime into.

I like your post but I have a question.

I didn't follow that close the overthrow of the Army base. So I don't know exactly what happened. I had heard it was a first aid post was that true or just a rumor.

It just seems like every one else calls it an army post which it would have been but being a first aid one would be pretty low. I was going to say even for the red shirts and then I realized no they go lower.

[northernjohn]

he is right.The only way to overthrow the government is a coup.

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Actually there's another way. It's called an election. But you need popular support and a lot of hard work to win one of those.

Now why do you want to continue the political gulf. The way it is set up now an election with out reform would not help one bit. Except for one little sawed off Irishman dressed in green running around saying but but but you had an election what would Thailand gain?

Now mind you I am well aware of the fact that there are farongs making money because of the corruption and would hate to see it go as they would lose there ability to dip into the Thailand treasury for money they don't deserve.

In the mean time you just keep on running around saying have an election. You could be like a fellow we had back home who would wear a robe and walk up and down the highway with a cross over his shoulder and a set of wheels on the other end saying the end is near. You could run along side of him and say have an election to any one willing to listen to you.

[3NUMBAS]

a nasty piece of work in the driving seat ! it makes one shudder at the thought

[Publicus]

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What a swell opinion the caretaker deputy commerce minister Nattawut has. I wonder what the opinion of the caretaker labour minster is? What will tomorrow's headlines read? Suthep claims Nattawut wants to become the supreme leader. It is as plausible as Nattawuts claim. They are both baseless, empty statements centered on a "belief" of which is even a stretch in this instance.

This is the vocal stylings of an accused terrorist 3 days before yingluck has to defend herself at the NACC. This caretaker commerce minister is also a leader of the terrorist wing of the PTP. Talk about conflicts of interests. He leads the largest unemployed, disenfranchised, radicalized and undisciplined street gang in history to protect the government he is a minister in. One could speculate that the 200 000 strong street gang is directly under the control of the PTP then, not that that was ever in doubt. Flashbacks of Europe in the 1940's come to mind. I remember other govt.'s that had there own militia that did their dirty work too.

So lets keep hearing your opinion Nattawut to take our minds of you moving your militia….sorry the PTP street gang, around Bangkok and overrun military check points to amass a "front line" around the NACC in your attempt to denigrate that principle of democracy called the rule of law.

One opinion I would like to hear though is yinglucks? This muppet is a commerce minister and terrorist leader. In Thailand unfortunately he and the labour minister can get away with making baseless accusations which is why we hear them. They can act with impunity. yingluck can't get away with it though. Even though she stated she will not respect some principles of democracy because it loosens her grip on power she is also accountable for what she says in the capacity of the PM. That is why we don't hear from her. The more these muppets speak the more I want to hear what yingluck has to say. Or is thaksin in a "zugzwang" when looking upon that playing board at that particular piece in the corner being defended by 3 little pawns.

What a conundrum thaksin has positioned this regime into.

I'd like to hear nattawut give a specific update about when the farmers will be paid. But I guess he's hoping that everybody has forgot this item and hoping everybody has forgotten the unnerving grilling he got when seated opposite the farmers representatives.

And on that note, how come the unpaid farmers are so quiet?

Anybody else suspect something has happened in the back room to push them to keep quiet and stay at home?

Probably the "farmers" as you characterize certain people saw the list of names before the rest of us just did.

[JAG]

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listing all the power Suthep would have makes him sound like Thaksin.

Surprise, surprise. The only things that will change are the names and faces. Political promises should be taken as such, a means to an end to get in a position to use to their own advantage, not that of the electors.

Read it in black & white, doesn't matter what colour of shirt they wear.....................

Never saw anything really bad from Suthep where he had power.....He might not be the best politicians I can dream of, but surely he doesn't deserve to be compared with a murder like Thaksin.

Well nothing really bad, apart from having 90 odd protestors slotted to send a message that he was in charge, nothing really!

[Bangmod]

Regardless of one's opinion on this article, either self-generated or agenized, I give credit to this media for finally giving some airtime to non-coup-mongers.

At this moment, behind me on AsiaUpdate, Jatuporn is giving a major speech.

It would be nice to see more balance shown between giving exposure to both pro-electoral/Parliamentary democrats, and the all-pervasive anti-democrat noise in the English Language media...It would give linguistically challenged Farangs like me, a much better perspective. I am fortunate to be amongst English proficient and educated Thai political junkies to get that perspective. Without it, explains the sympathy for anti-democracy stuff one hears from farangs who I am sure are not anti-democratic.

Another tiny positive, I see the media has stopped aggrandizing the coup-monger stage, by characterizing their noise as some sort of seminar or forum....At least I haven't seen it for awhile.

Can say that, beter Friesland blijven.....

[MAJIC]

he is right.The only way to overthrow the government is a coup.

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Actually there's another way. It's called an election. But you need popular support and a lot of hard work to win one of those.

Yes an Election is one way,a clean Election is another,not a paid for corrupt one!

popular support and hard work is not so necessary,as Hard Cash,but you already know this Spalpeen!

[LomSak27]

After Coups, Military Rule and Democracy

comes the El Supremo

Looks like the PDRC has a winner!

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What a swell opinion the caretaker deputy commerce minister Nattawut has. I wonder what the opinion of the caretaker labour minster is? What will tomorrow's headlines read? Suthep claims Nattawut wants to become the supreme leader. It is as plausible as Nattawuts claim. They are both baseless, empty statements centered on a "belief" of which is even a stretch in this instance.

This is the vocal stylings of an accused terrorist 3 days before yingluck has to defend herself at the NACC. This caretaker commerce minister is also a leader of the terrorist wing of the PTP. Talk about conflicts of interests. He leads the largest unemployed, disenfranchised, radicalized and undisciplined street gang in history to protect the government he is a minister in. One could speculate that the 200 000 strong street gang is directly under the control of the PTP then, not that that was ever in doubt. Flashbacks of Europe in the 1940's come to mind. I remember other govt.'s that had there own militia that did their dirty work too.

So lets keep hearing your opinion Nattawut to take our minds of you moving your militia….sorry the PTP street gang, around Bangkok and overrun military check points to amass a "front line" around the NACC in your attempt to denigrate that principle of democracy called the rule of law.

One opinion I would like to hear though is yinglucks? This muppet is a commerce minister and terrorist leader. In Thailand unfortunately he and the labour minister can get away with making baseless accusations which is why we hear them. They can act with impunity. yingluck can't get away with it though. Even though she stated she will not respect some principles of democracy because it loosens her grip on power she is also accountable for what she says in the capacity of the PM. That is why we don't hear from her. The more these muppets speak the more I want to hear what yingluck has to say. Or is thaksin in a "zugzwang" when looking upon that playing board at that particular piece in the corner being defended by 3 little pawns.

What a conundrum thaksin has positioned this regime into.

I'd like to hear nattawut give a specific update about when the farmers will be paid. But I guess he's hoping that everybody has forgot this item and hoping everybody has forgotten the unnerving grilling he got when seated opposite the farmers representatives.

And on that note, how come the unpaid farmers are so quiet?

Anybody else suspect something has happened in the back room to push them to keep quiet and stay at home?

Probably the "farmers" as you characterize certain people saw the list of names before the rest of us just did.

You mean the farmers stayed home of their total free and happy choice because they are not concerned about the very very late payment for their crops and because it's not causing them any financial hardships?

Or you mean they stayed at home because they had early access to the list of names that nattawut is brandishing? How does that compute?

And further, nattawut is trying to spin his list as a foregone conclusion that the folks on his list will (will) be appointed. do you have any reason / details to support the notion that these will (repeat will) be automatically appointed?

[rubl]

All this talk about a 'supreme leader' just confuses. All talks about possible names just confuses, acts like obfuscation and distracts from the real issue.

That's why last night the pro-government broadcasting company NBT had a discussion which showed an English text on the bottom of the screen

"non-legitimate PM: possible or not"

Edited March 28, 2014 by rubl

[Publicus]

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What a swell opinion the caretaker deputy commerce minister Nattawut has. I wonder what the opinion of the caretaker labour minster is? What will tomorrow's headlines read? Suthep claims Nattawut wants to become the supreme leader. It is as plausible as Nattawuts claim. They are both baseless, empty statements centered on a "belief" of which is even a stretch in this instance.

This is the vocal stylings of an accused terrorist 3 days before yingluck has to defend herself at the NACC. This caretaker commerce minister is also a leader of the terrorist wing of the PTP. Talk about conflicts of interests. He leads the largest unemployed, disenfranchised, radicalized and undisciplined street gang in history to protect the government he is a minister in. One could speculate that the 200 000 strong street gang is directly under the control of the PTP then, not that that was ever in doubt. Flashbacks of Europe in the 1940's come to mind. I remember other govt.'s that had there own militia that did their dirty work too.

So lets keep hearing your opinion Nattawut to take our minds of you moving your militia….sorry the PTP street gang, around Bangkok and overrun military check points to amass a "front line" around the NACC in your attempt to denigrate that principle of democracy called the rule of law.

One opinion I would like to hear though is yinglucks? This muppet is a commerce minister and terrorist leader. In Thailand unfortunately he and the labour minister can get away with making baseless accusations which is why we hear them. They can act with impunity. yingluck can't get away with it though. Even though she stated she will not respect some principles of democracy because it loosens her grip on power she is also accountable for what she says in the capacity of the PM. That is why we don't hear from her. The more these muppets speak the more I want to hear what yingluck has to say. Or is thaksin in a "zugzwang" when looking upon that playing board at that particular piece in the corner being defended by 3 little pawns.

What a conundrum thaksin has positioned this regime into.

I'd like to hear nattawut give a specific update about when the farmers will be paid. But I guess he's hoping that everybody has forgot this item and hoping everybody has forgotten the unnerving grilling he got when seated opposite the farmers representatives.

And on that note, how come the unpaid farmers are so quiet?

Anybody else suspect something has happened in the back room to push them to keep quiet and stay at home?

Probably the "farmers" as you characterize certain people saw the list of names before the rest of us just did.

You mean the farmers stayed home of their total free and happy choice because they are not concerned about the very very late payment for their crops and because it's not causing them any financial hardships?

Or you mean they stayed at home because they had early access to the list of names that nattawut is brandishing? How does that compute?

And further, nattawut is trying to spin his list as a foregone conclusion that the folks on his list will (will) be appointed. do you have any reason / details to support the notion that these will (repeat will) be automatically appointed?

A ballsy move by PTP and the government, releasing those names, and Nattawut was the loose cannon to use to do it.

The bottom line is that now the public gets some faces to put in the "People's Council" of Suthep, Abhisit and their big money and power backers.

I noticed the sampling of names presented to the Thai people failed to include a farmer, a bank teller, a red - one could go on about the released names or what they suggest, but the point is clear. The "People's Council" is indeed the Feudal Council (to state it somewhat politely, generously).

The named names may now be precluded membership of the autocrat council, but not necessarily so as Suthep, Abhisit and the arrogant old guard elites know no bounds of decency or self-restraint in their determined, yet increasingly frantic, pursuits. One or more of the named names may well deny being under consideration or may now assert he would never join such an anti-democratic body. You can bet the farm Suthep and Abhisit are trying to figure a face-saving response to the leak. So let's let the dust settle and see.

In the meantime, the farmers and their families know the political situation and circumstances better than do some others in the country. Civil peace is paramount at this point and the farmers know which group benefits from civil peace - the government. The farmers will not allow themselves to be exploited against the government. Farmers and their families know who is for them and who is not.

Peace.

P.S. Now I have to stop writing about the "still anonymous" People's Council. It remains largely anonymous but now people get a more clear idea, so I consider it to be a good tradeoff. The brass button and high collar three piece suit "People's Council".

[rubl]

A ballsy move by PTP and the government, releasing those names, and Nattawut was the loose cannon to use to do it.

The bottom line is that now the public gets some faces to put in the "People's Council" of Suthep, Abhisit and their big money and power backers.

I noticed the sampling of names presented to the Thai people failed to include a farmer, a bank teller, a red - one could go on about the released names or what they suggest, but the point is clear. The "People's Council" is indeed the Feudal Council (to state it somewhat politely, generously).

The named names may now be precluded membership of the autocrat council, but not necessarily so as Suthep, Abhisit and the arrogant old guard elites know no bounds of decency or self-restraint in their determined, yet increasingly frantic, pursuits. One or more of the named names may well deny being under consideration or may now assert he would never join such an anti-democratic body. You can bet the farm Suthep and Abhisit are trying to figure a face-saving response to the leak. So let's let the dust settle and see.

In the meantime, the farmers and their families know the political situation and circumstances better than do some others in the country. Civil peace is paramount at this point and the farmers know which group benefits from civil peace - the government. The farmers will not allow themselves to be exploited against the government. Farmers and their families know who is for them and who is not.

Peace.

P.S. Now I have to stop writing about the "still anonymous" People's Council. It remains largely anonymous but now people get a more clear idea, so I consider it to be a good tradeoff. The brass button and high collar three piece suit "People's Council".

Your logic is somewhat faulty, my dear publicus. Since Nattawut mentioned the names, the public can only put faces on those who Nattawuth thinks might be in the Peoples Council. Your suggestive "PC indeed a Feudal Council" is based on the assumption that Nattawut mentioned the actually correct names of those who will be in the PC. No proof at all, assumptions wrong.

Mind you we would need to know more about the functioning of the Peoples Council and the structure below. The names given suggest administrative knowledge which may indeed be necessary but lower levels could gather / discuss the real reforms, wishes from the population, etc., etc.

So, no details, still anonymous as in no names provided, only guesswork.

Peace,

uncle rubl

PS still wonder from what position Nattawut spoke. Could it be

- caretaker Dept Minster of Commerce

- Pheu Thai party list MP

- Pheu Thai party list member

- UDD co-leader

- UDD member

- concerned private citizen

[Publicus]

A ballsy move by PTP and the government, releasing those names, and Nattawut was the loose cannon to use to do it.

The bottom line is that now the public gets some faces to put in the "People's Council" of Suthep, Abhisit and their big money and power backers.

I noticed the sampling of names presented to the Thai people failed to include a farmer, a bank teller, a red - one could go on about the released names or what they suggest, but the point is clear. The "People's Council" is indeed the Feudal Council (to state it somewhat politely, generously).

The named names may now be precluded membership of the autocrat council, but not necessarily so as Suthep, Abhisit and the arrogant old guard elites know no bounds of decency or self-restraint in their determined, yet increasingly frantic, pursuits. One or more of the named names may well deny being under consideration or may now assert he would never join such an anti-democratic body. You can bet the farm Suthep and Abhisit are trying to figure a face-saving response to the leak. So let's let the dust settle and see.

In the meantime, the farmers and their families know the political situation and circumstances better than do some others in the country. Civil peace is paramount at this point and the farmers know which group benefits from civil peace - the government. The farmers will not allow themselves to be exploited against the government. Farmers and their families know who is for them and who is not.

Peace.

P.S. Now I have to stop writing about the "still anonymous" People's Council. It remains largely anonymous but now people get a more clear idea, so I consider it to be a good tradeoff. The brass button and high collar three piece suit "People's Council".

Your logic is somewhat faulty, my dear publicus. Since Nattawut mentioned the names, the public can only put faces on those who Nattawuth thinks might be in the Peoples Council. Your suggestive "PC indeed a Feudal Council" is based on the assumption that Nattawut mentioned the actually correct names of those who will be in the PC. No proof at all, assumptions wrong.

Mind you we would need to know more about the functioning of the Peoples Council and the structure below. The names given suggest administrative knowledge which may indeed be necessary but lower levels could gather / discuss the real reforms, wishes from the population, etc., etc.

So, no details, still anonymous as in no names provided, only guesswork.

Peace,

uncle rubl

PS still wonder from what position Nattawut spoke. Could it be

- caretaker Dept Minster of Commerce

- Pheu Thai party list MP

- Pheu Thai party list member

- UDD co-leader

- UDD member

- concerned private citizen

Names are in the public discourse now rubl. The disclosure of specific names gives a clear knowledge and understanding of the demographic profile of those who would sit on the Council, in whose interest, for what purpose. The genie is out of the bottle now rubl so you might think of how you look to others as you try to put the genie back into the bottle.

[mrtoad]

The names were given out, so Jatta The Hut and his cronies can intimidate , harass and threaten people. Red democracy in action.

[Prbkk]

Seri Wongmontha? They can't be serious. Minister for Transvestite Shows? Next they'll be proposing the beer heiress for a role in public relations

[JAG]

Well they need to be rewarded for their efforts, seeing as how they are undoubtedly "good people"!

[HonestQuietBob]

he is right.The only way to overthrow the government is a coup.

The only way to overthrow a POPULAR government is with a coup. With unpopular governments an election will suffice.

[Blackmirage2013]

Nattawut is a clown and a jerk-off.

He goes on stage, incites people and encourages huge destruction in Bangkok and yet, somehow our country tolerates him???/

Honestly the man should be put into jail and the key thrown away for good.

[Publicus]

Nattawut is a clown and a jerk-off.

He goes on stage, incites people and encourages huge destruction in Bangkok and yet, somehow our country tolerates him???/

Honestly the man should be put into jail and the key thrown away for good.

You misspelled Nattawut.

It's S-u-t-h-e-p you are writing about.

[kimamey]

Sounds like a load of rubbish to me. How's he going to manage this rise to power bearing in mind he wasn't even leader of the Democrats either in government or opposition and despite Abhisit standing down after the last election.

I doubt he really expects to be leader and even if he did I can't see many people letting him get away with it. Many support his anti government views but not everything he does.

[HonestQuietBob]

Supreme leader of his cell in his wing of his block in his prison!

[kimamey]

A ballsy move by PTP and the government, releasing those names, and Nattawut was the loose cannon to use to do it.

The bottom line is that now the public gets some faces to put in the "People's Council" of Suthep, Abhisit and their big money and power backers.

I noticed the sampling of names presented to the Thai people failed to include a farmer, a bank teller, a red - one could go on about the released names or what they suggest, but the point is clear. The "People's Council" is indeed the Feudal Council (to state it somewhat politely, generously).

The named names may now be precluded membership of the autocrat council, but not necessarily so as Suthep, Abhisit and the arrogant old guard elites know no bounds of decency or self-restraint in their determined, yet increasingly frantic, pursuits. One or more of the named names may well deny being under consideration or may now assert he would never join such an anti-democratic body. You can bet the farm Suthep and Abhisit are trying to figure a face-saving response to the leak. So let's let the dust settle and see.

In the meantime, the farmers and their families know the political situation and circumstances better than do some others in the country. Civil peace is paramount at this point and the farmers know which group benefits from civil peace - the government. The farmers will not allow themselves to be exploited against the government. Farmers and their families know who is for them and who is not.

Peace.

P.S. Now I have to stop writing about the "still anonymous" People's Council. It remains largely anonymous but now people get a more clear idea, so I consider it to be a good tradeoff. The brass button and high collar three piece suit "People's Council".

Your logic is somewhat faulty, my dear publicus. Since Nattawut mentioned the names, the public can only put faces on those who Nattawuth thinks might be in the Peoples Council. Your suggestive "PC indeed a Feudal Council" is based on the assumption that Nattawut mentioned the actually correct names of those who will be in the PC. No proof at all, assumptions wrong.

Mind you we would need to know more about the functioning of the Peoples Council and the structure below. The names given suggest administrative knowledge which may indeed be necessary but lower levels could gather / discuss the real reforms, wishes from the population, etc., etc.

So, no details, still anonymous as in no names provided, only guesswork.

Peace,

uncle rubl

PS still wonder from what position Nattawut spoke. Could it be

- caretaker Dept Minster of Commerce

- Pheu Thai party list MP

- Pheu Thai party list member

- UDD co-leader

- UDD member

- concerned private citizen

Names are in the public discourse now rubl. The disclosure of specific names gives a clear knowledge and understanding of the demographic profile of those who would sit on the Council, in whose interest, for what purpose. The genie is out of the bottle now rubl so you might think of how you look to others as you try to put the genie back into the bottle.

So who has actually confirmed these names?

[Publicus]

A ballsy move by PTP and the government, releasing those names, and Nattawut was the loose cannon to use to do it.

The bottom line is that now the public gets some faces to put in the "People's Council" of Suthep, Abhisit and their big money and power backers.

I noticed the sampling of names presented to the Thai people failed to include a farmer, a bank teller, a red - one could go on about the released names or what they suggest, but the point is clear. The "People's Council" is indeed the Feudal Council (to state it somewhat politely, generously).

The named names may now be precluded membership of the autocrat council, but not necessarily so as Suthep, Abhisit and the arrogant old guard elites know no bounds of decency or self-restraint in their determined, yet increasingly frantic, pursuits. One or more of the named names may well deny being under consideration or may now assert he would never join such an anti-democratic body. You can bet the farm Suthep and Abhisit are trying to figure a face-saving response to the leak. So let's let the dust settle and see.

In the meantime, the farmers and their families know the political situation and circumstances better than do some others in the country. Civil peace is paramount at this point and the farmers know which group benefits from civil peace - the government. The farmers will not allow themselves to be exploited against the government. Farmers and their families know who is for them and who is not.

Peace.

P.S. Now I have to stop writing about the "still anonymous" People's Council. It remains largely anonymous but now people get a more clear idea, so I consider it to be a good tradeoff. The brass button and high collar three piece suit "People's Council".

Your logic is somewhat faulty, my dear publicus. Since Nattawut mentioned the names, the public can only put faces on those who Nattawuth thinks might be in the Peoples Council. Your suggestive "PC indeed a Feudal Council" is based on the assumption that Nattawut mentioned the actually correct names of those who will be in the PC. No proof at all, assumptions wrong.

Mind you we would need to know more about the functioning of the Peoples Council and the structure below. The names given suggest administrative knowledge which may indeed be necessary but lower levels could gather / discuss the real reforms, wishes from the population, etc., etc.

So, no details, still anonymous as in no names provided, only guesswork.

Peace,

uncle rubl

PS still wonder from what position Nattawut spoke. Could it be

- caretaker Dept Minster of Commerce

- Pheu Thai party list MP

- Pheu Thai party list member

- UDD co-leader

- UDD member

- concerned private citizen

Names are in the public discourse now rubl. The disclosure of specific names gives a clear knowledge and understanding of the demographic profile of those who would sit on the Council, in whose interest, for what purpose. The genie is out of the bottle now rubl so you might think of how you look to others as you try to put the genie back into the bottle.

So who has actually confirmed these names?

Just as a reminder, the names Nattawut named as a possible successor prime minister include:

Army commander Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha (should a successful military mutiny occur), former Thammasat University rector Suraphol Nitikraipote, public health permanent secretary Dr Narong Sahamethapat,, former dean of National Institute of Development Administration Sombat Thamrongthanyawong, Constitution Court judge Charun Pakdeethanakul, Thammasat University lecturer Seri Wongmontha, former foreign minister Prasong Soonsiri, former Senator Chirmsak Pinthong, former senator Kaewsan Atipho, senior citizen Prawes Wasi, Thammasat University rector Somkid Lertpaithoon former finance minister Thanong Pitthaya. Private Sector’s anti-corruption organization chairman Pramon Sutheewong.

You know, the upright and uptight pearl button and high collar three piece suit society.

At any rate, who among them have stepped forward to righteously or clearly deny Nattawut's naming of them? Who among them have filed suit in court against Nattawut on any basis or have said they would? Have the police charged Nattawut with anything in connection with this naming of names?

Indeed, Nattawut has said that if anyone on the list denies being involved in the PDRC's scheme to seize government power, he would take responsibility for naming them in error. I mean, if for instance someone accused me of being a member of the KKK, I'd make some effort to show up the lunatic accuser as a liar and a lunatic, however, so far the named names remain silent, as do the PDRC, Abhisit, the DP.

IMO, if silence can be considered consent, then the viability of the named persons is by implication and inference confirmed. At least until and unless some denials begin to occur. I haven't heard any denials, at least not yet.

[love1012]

he is right.The only way to overthrow the government is a coup.

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Actually there's another way. It's called an election. But you need popular support and a lot of hard work to win one of those.

Not really.................a lot of M79 grenades, bullies to threaten those who oppose you and handfulls of haa loi baht notes does just as well!!

[love1012]

he is right.The only way to overthrow the government is a coup.

The only way to overthrow a POPULAR government is with a coup. With unpopular governments an election will suffice.

So popular that they had to had to form a coalition and now millions are marching against it..............popular that id say!!!!!!!!!

[rubl]

A ballsy move by PTP and the government, releasing those names, and Nattawut was the loose cannon to use to do it.

The bottom line is that now the public gets some faces to put in the "People's Council" of Suthep, Abhisit and their big money and power backers.

I noticed the sampling of names presented to the Thai people failed to include a farmer, a bank teller, a red - one could go on about the released names or what they suggest, but the point is clear. The "People's Council" is indeed the Feudal Council (to state it somewhat politely, generously).

The named names may now be precluded membership of the autocrat council, but not necessarily so as Suthep, Abhisit and the arrogant old guard elites know no bounds of decency or self-restraint in their determined, yet increasingly frantic, pursuits. One or more of the named names may well deny being under consideration or may now assert he would never join such an anti-democratic body. You can bet the farm Suthep and Abhisit are trying to figure a face-saving response to the leak. So let's let the dust settle and see.

In the meantime, the farmers and their families know the political situation and circumstances better than do some others in the country. Civil peace is paramount at this point and the farmers know which group benefits from civil peace - the government. The farmers will not allow themselves to be exploited against the government. Farmers and their families know who is for them and who is not.

Peace.

P.S. Now I have to stop writing about the "still anonymous" People's Council. It remains largely anonymous but now people get a more clear idea, so I consider it to be a good tradeoff. The brass button and high collar three piece suit "People's Council".

Your logic is somewhat faulty, my dear publicus. Since Nattawut mentioned the names, the public can only put faces on those who Nattawuth thinks might be in the Peoples Council. Your suggestive "PC indeed a Feudal Council" is based on the assumption that Nattawut mentioned the actually correct names of those who will be in the PC. No proof at all, assumptions wrong.

Mind you we would need to know more about the functioning of the Peoples Council and the structure below. The names given suggest administrative knowledge which may indeed be necessary but lower levels could gather / discuss the real reforms, wishes from the population, etc., etc.

So, no details, still anonymous as in no names provided, only guesswork.

Peace,

uncle rubl

PS still wonder from what position Nattawut spoke. Could it be

- caretaker Dept Minster of Commerce

- Pheu Thai party list MP

- Pheu Thai party list member

- UDD co-leader

- UDD member

- concerned private citizen

Names are in the public discourse now rubl. The disclosure of specific names gives a clear knowledge and understanding of the demographic profile of those who would sit on the Council, in whose interest, for what purpose. The genie is out of the bottle now rubl so you might think of how you look to others as you try to put the genie back into the bottle.

you still don't get it, it would seem. The names are just given by k. Nattawut. That may give the public the opportunity the look up information on those named, but that doesn't mean a bloody thing. It's all in the mind of Nattawut c.s. that they 'accuse' others to fill a peoples council with for instance 'these names'.

now the genie out of the bottle has no relation to what may or may not become a peoples council . Still ask nicely and he may grant you three wisihes.

[rubl]

Names are in the public discourse now rubl. The disclosure of specific names gives a clear knowledge and understanding of the demographic profile of those who would sit on the Council, in whose interest, for what purpose. The genie is out of the bottle now rubl so you might think of how you look to others as you try to put the genie back into the bottle.

So who has actually confirmed these names?

Just as a reminder, the names Nattawut named as a possible successor prime minister include:

Army commander Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha (should a successful military mutiny occur), former Thammasat University rector Suraphol Nitikraipote, public health permanent secretary Dr Narong Sahamethapat,, former dean of National Institute of Development Administration Sombat Thamrongthanyawong, Constitution Court judge Charun Pakdeethanakul, Thammasat University lecturer Seri Wongmontha, former foreign minister Prasong Soonsiri, former Senator Chirmsak Pinthong, former senator Kaewsan Atipho, senior citizen Prawes Wasi, Thammasat University rector Somkid Lertpaithoon former finance minister Thanong Pitthaya. Private Sector’s anti-corruption organization chairman Pramon Sutheewong.

You know, the upright and uptight pearl button and high collar three piece suit society.

At any rate, who among them have stepped forward to righteously or clearly deny Nattawut's naming of them? Who among them have filed suit in court against Nattawut on any basis or have said they would? Have the police charged Nattawut with anything in connection with this naming of names?

Indeed, Nattawut has said that if anyone on the list denies being involved in the PDRC's scheme to seize government power, he would take responsibility for naming them in error. I mean, if for instance someone accused me of being a member of the KKK, I'd make some effort to show up the lunatic accuser as a liar and a lunatic, however, so far the named names remain silent, as do the PDRC, Abhisit, the DP.

IMO, if silence can be considered consent, then the viability of the named persons is by implication and inference confirmed. At least until and unless some denials begin to occur. I haven't heard any denials, at least not yet.

Interesting remark from Nattawut. I accuse, you have to deny before I appologise. Sounds like Pheu Thai spokesperson Pronmpong with his "Suthep took donated money to buy property and I challenge him to prove it's not so'. Also the "involved in scheme to seize power" is really suggestive. Almost as if he is asking the army about it's coup plans

What's next one may wonder ?

BTW Nattawut had the same "It's on me, I'll take responsibility" mood in 2010.

[rubl]

Nattawut is a clown and a jerk-off.

He goes on stage, incites people and encourages huge destruction in Bangkok and yet, somehow our country tolerates him???/

Honestly the man should be put into jail and the key thrown away for good.

You misspelled Nattawut.

It's S-u-t-h-e-p you are writing about.

That would be off topic, so I'm sure N-a-t-t-a-w-u-t was meant as he's in the topic.

UDD coleader "It's on me, let them come to me" Nattawut.

[Publicus]

A ballsy move by PTP and the government, releasing those names, and Nattawut was the loose cannon to use to do it.

The bottom line is that now the public gets some faces to put in the "People's Council" of Suthep, Abhisit and their big money and power backers.

I noticed the sampling of names presented to the Thai people failed to include a farmer, a bank teller, a red - one could go on about the released names or what they suggest, but the point is clear. The "People's Council" is indeed the Feudal Council (to state it somewhat politely, generously).

The named names may now be precluded membership of the autocrat council, but not necessarily so as Suthep, Abhisit and the arrogant old guard elites know no bounds of decency or self-restraint in their determined, yet increasingly frantic, pursuits. One or more of the named names may well deny being under consideration or may now assert he would never join such an anti-democratic body. You can bet the farm Suthep and Abhisit are trying to figure a face-saving response to the leak. So let's let the dust settle and see.

In the meantime, the farmers and their families know the political situation and circumstances better than do some others in the country. Civil peace is paramount at this point and the farmers know which group benefits from civil peace - the government. The farmers will not allow themselves to be exploited against the government. Farmers and their families know who is for them and who is not.

Peace.

P.S. Now I have to stop writing about the "still anonymous" People's Council. It remains largely anonymous but now people get a more clear idea, so I consider it to be a good tradeoff. The brass button and high collar three piece suit "People's Council".

Your logic is somewhat faulty, my dear publicus. Since Nattawut mentioned the names, the public can only put faces on those who Nattawuth thinks might be in the Peoples Council. Your suggestive "PC indeed a Feudal Council" is based on the assumption that Nattawut mentioned the actually correct names of those who will be in the PC. No proof at all, assumptions wrong.

Mind you we would need to know more about the functioning of the Peoples Council and the structure below. The names given suggest administrative knowledge which may indeed be necessary but lower levels could gather / discuss the real reforms, wishes from the population, etc., etc.

So, no details, still anonymous as in no names provided, only guesswork.

Peace,

uncle rubl

PS still wonder from what position Nattawut spoke. Could it be

- caretaker Dept Minster of Commerce

- Pheu Thai party list MP

- Pheu Thai party list member

- UDD co-leader

- UDD member

- concerned private citizen

Names are in the public discourse now rubl. The disclosure of specific names gives a clear knowledge and understanding of the demographic profile of those who would sit on the Council, in whose interest, for what purpose. The genie is out of the bottle now rubl so you might think of how you look to others as you try to put the genie back into the bottle.

you still don't get it, it would seem. The names are just given by k. Nattawut. That may give the public the opportunity the look up information on those named, but that doesn't mean a bloody thing. It's all in the mind of Nattawut c.s. that they 'accuse' others to fill a peoples council with for instance 'these names'.

now the genie out of the bottle has no relation to what may or may not become a peoples council . Still ask nicely and he may grant you three wisihes.

I accept this naming of names by Nattawut and his group as true. You think and believe that is foolish or ignorance. I believe Nattawut revealed names because he was chosen to be the person to make an important revelation about a top secret PCAD plan and design. I believe Nattawut has reliable information about the names he named, information that is predicated in reality and insider politics, culture, personal relationships.

I believe you can't see past your nose in this (and many more matters of everyday life). You are either playing innocent or you really actually don't get the realpolitik dynamics at work in this naming of names.

The naming of the names comes from Dubai, not Nattawut or Nattawut's imagination. You need to argue that Thaksin is wrong or that I am in league with Thaksin, neither of which would be accurate, true, viable. I doubt seriously you've ever smelled the coffee.