Civil war possible, says Dusit Poll

[3NUMBAS]

it will happen if yingluck gets removed ,they know that already

[Baerboxer]

She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

Well done Yingluck.

She came in on the back of her party being elected at the ballot box, but she will not be leaving by democratic means.

Well done Suthep

Both of you are correct.

Now, just think of what she did and what she didn't do (or her brother decided really) in the middle to get where we are today>

[Baerboxer]

I've been staying this since the beginning of these protests. Reason I left that place and without any regrets as all I read is a straight forward way to Civil War... Lost land.

No, not on on the recent turnouts it won't.

Thaksin's militia don't have enough paid mercenaries to turn it into a civil war. More likely a guerilla war based on bomb attacks, assassinations and random shooting. Thaksin won't care about screwing the economy, collateral damage or innocent lives as long as he gets what he wants.

That's why he so desperately wants a coup. So he can try and get his PR media machine to then try and convince the world he's the leader of those fighting for freedom and democracy and fudge the whitewash of his return. He seems to be running scared of what might come out in court cases. So violence and the confusion it brings is more is choice now.

[Cadan]

Great opinion. The only problems is that too many rotten apples are in the system. One person cant change the system. It will take time A LOT OF TIME for changes It has to start somewhere...

Thank you so much for sharing your opinion. This is the best I red a long time in this forum.

The main reasons for suffering according to Lord Buddha are:

1. Greed (attachment to material things)

2. Hate/Dislike (violence - project my inner frustration to people outside)

3. Ignorance (living in illusion - dont understand the true nature of existence)

In this forum (country) are so many negative and frustrated people. Please understand, it´s very easy to see the mistakes just in other people . We are all in this together.

What this country (all countries) needs are more mindful leaders. (politicians). Not important if they

are royalist, nationalist, democrats, socialists, redshirts or whatever.

Not to difficult to understand but difficult to practice.

Working for the greater good. Not just for me,me, me

Be the change you want to see. Do good - be good

A balanced society, Benefit for all. This is my deep wish for Thailand.

Tom

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Yet another useless and completely unhelpful"poll".

What is the point of asking people if Civil War is likely or possible?

Civil War is "possible" anywhere in any country.

We could be asking better questions, questions that promote peace and good feeling, rather than going round this same old issue.

History shows us very plainly that the Thais have been behaving like this for years and years.

The problems in the current societies here in Thailand are rooted very firmly in GREED and lack of responsible education.

The real problem Thailand is going to face is a crashing economy which is GOING to happen sooner or later. Tourism has been badly damaged, and will continue being damaged until an equilibrium is reached.

There is a weakening of faith in Thailand from other members of the Asean community.

The country is showing itself to be hugely unreliable, dishonest and horribly corrupt.

We are caught in a vicious cycle. Nothing short of a coup will actually get us out of the rut we are in.

Once out, we will quickly descend into another.

Thailand is heading rapidly towards the exit sign.

[Tanlic]

The Dusit poll?.........this isn't a general election they are predicting.........not that the figures they come up with are ever right.

There isn't going to be a Civil War in Thailand............not a cat in hell's chance.

An all out Civil War would do so much damage to the country it would take 50 years to recover.

The army takes a side and the other side loses.............so why even start a war?

This isn't Somalia..........Civil War my backside

[phantomfiddler]

She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

Well done Yingluck.

She preached reconciliation, but all her actions showed completely opposite intent. A very pathetic leadership, but then she was phoning in for all her decisions

[phantomfiddler]

The Dusit poll?.........this isn't a general election they are predicting.........not that the figures they come up with are ever right.

There isn't going to be a Civil War in Thailand............not a cat in hell's chance.

An all out Civil War would do so much damage to the country it would take 50 years to recover.

The army takes a side and the other side loses.............so why even start a war?

This isn't Somalia..........Civil War my backside

A 2 trillion loan would take 50 years to recover from, and in my humble opinion the big man is ready and prepared to take on even the army if they stand in his way. A very sad state of affairs, but he bribed the entire country and now the massive error in judgement is becoming more and more apparent.

[Tokay]

It will never happen, as they are too incompetent to have a civil war. None of them can shoot or throw a bomb with a darn anyway. Well, except for the sniper that blew the red shirt's head off a few years ago. Where is that guy now, anyway?

[tezzainoz]

She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

Well done Yingluck.

She came in on the back of her party being elected at the ballot box, but she will not be leaving by democratic means.

Well done Suthep

I would agree with you if the ballot box had been fair and democratic

But only a blind fool would believe this to be the case now

[tezzainoz]

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She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

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This kind of thinking is the cause of civil war.

What AleG said, sadly is not thinking, it has now been proved to be FACT

Edited April 7, 2014 by tezzainoz

[Benmart]

Not risk whatsoever. Zero....nada...zip...

Civil war requires planning and management skills.

You may want to read up on the dynamics of civil war.

One only has to take a look at the history of civil war across the globe. Radical zealots, armed with nothing more than machetes and clubs, fueled by hate, bigotry and alcohol, can leave a trail of misery and carnage most of us cannot imagine.

These acts are seldom carried out by those who plan the scenario. The planners sit behind solid walls and rely on the Corporals in the field to fan the fires of blood lust. Vendettas, feuds and political rivalries are settled under the guise of the issue at hand.

To believe Thais are incapable of civil war, with the added benefit of automatic firearms and explosives, is short sighted in my opinion.

"War means fighting, and fighting means killing.

― Nathan Bedford Forrest -

[Soutpeel]

Not risk whatsoever. Zero....nada...zip...

Civil war requires planning and management skills.

You may want to read up on the dynamics of civil war.

One only has to take a look at the history of civil war across the globe. Radical zealots, armed with nothing more than machetes and clubs, fueled by hate, bigotry and alcohol, can leave a trail of misery and carnage most of us cannot imagine.

These acts are seldom carried out by those who plan the scenario. The planners sit behind solid walls and rely on the Corporals in the field to fan the fires of blood lust. Vendettas, feuds and political rivalries are settled under the guise of the issue at hand.

To believe Thais are incapable of civil war, with the added benefit of automatic firearms and explosives, is short sighted in my opinion.

"War means fighting, and fighting means killing.

― Nathan Bedford Forrest -

You might want to read up on something called a sense of humour or go watch something called Monty Pythons Flying circus is a good start

"FDAS" was being sarcastic and taking the micky....

[GlobalCtzn]

She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

Well done Yingluck.

She came in on the back of her party being elected at the ballot box, but she will not be leaving by democratic means.

Well done Suthep

She had the support of many people when she was elected. Now she seems to enjoy the support of only ardent Reds. The PEOPLE are fed up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[siampolee]

Read the article in the quote box below, you''ll have to search for it but in it you will see the malevolent rhetoric of the Red Shirts in all its angst ridden delights.

Prof. Giles Ji Ungpakorn's Red Siam Manifesto

Edited April 7, 2014 by siampolee

[kingalfred]

She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

Well done Yingluck.

She came in on the back of her party being elected at the ballot box, but she will not be leaving by democratic means.

Well done Suthep

She came in by "democracy" and ruled as a "plutocrat" .Well done brother,of course thats what you wanted

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[manstr23]

She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

Well done Yingluck.

She came in on the back of her party being elected at the ballot box, but she will not be leaving by democratic means.

Well done Suthep

Oh, I believe she would love to step back, but the puppet master will not let her. He believes there is still more money for his taking. Sure the PTP won at the ballot box, but would you like to be a candidate from the opposition party running for a seat in Parliament in the North or North-east. You may not survive due to the red shirt disagreement. That's how it was in 2011 and it has not changed.

[ppmacready]

Thank you so much for sharing your opinion. This is the best I red a long time in this forum.

The main reasons for suffering according to Lord Buddha are:

1. Greed (attachment to material things)

2. Hate/Dislike (violence - project my inner frustration to people outside)

3. Ignorance (living in illusion - dont understand the true nature of existence)

In this forum (country) are so many negative and frustrated people. Please understand, it´s very easy to see the mistakes just in other people . We are all in this together.

What this country (all countries) needs are more mindful leaders. (politicians). Not important if they

are royalist, nationalist, democrats, socialists, redshirts or whatever.

Not to difficult to understand but difficult to practice.

Working for the greater good. Not just for me,me, me

Be the change you want to see. Do good - be good

A balanced society, Benefit for all. This is my deep wish for Thailand.

Tom

Quote:

Yet another useless and completely unhelpful"poll".

What is the point of asking people if Civil War is likely or possible?

Civil War is "possible" anywhere in any country.

We could be asking better questions, questions that promote peace and good feeling, rather than going round this same old issue.

History shows us very plainly that the Thais have been behaving like this for years and years.

The problems in the current societies here in Thailand are rooted very firmly in GREED and lack of responsible education.

The real problem Thailand is going to face is a crashing economy which is GOING to happen sooner or later. Tourism has been badly damaged, and will continue being damaged until an equilibrium is reached.

There is a weakening of faith in Thailand from other members of the Asean community.

The country is showing itself to be hugely unreliable, dishonest and horribly corrupt.

We are caught in a vicious cycle. Nothing short of a coup will actually get us out of the rut we are in.

Once out, we will quickly descend into another.

Thailand is heading rapidly towards the exit sign.

[AleG]

She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

Well done Yingluck.

She came in on the back of her party being elected at the ballot box, but she will not be leaving by democratic means.

Well done Suthep

Oh, I believe she would love to step back, but the puppet master will not let her. He believes there is still more money for his taking. Sure the PTP won at the ballot box, but would you like to be a candidate from the opposition party running for a seat in Parliament in the North or North-east. You may not survive due to the red shirt disagreement. That's how it was in 2011 and it has not changed.

I don't think it's really about money, the (insert appropriate insult) has more than enough loot already, it's about power. Thaksin is a proper control freak ("Thaksin Thinks, Phuea Thai Does"), things have to be done his way and he is not going to let anyone step on his toes, not without some serious retaliation at least.

Control freaks like him would rather see the whole place go up in smoke rather than let anyone else tell them what to do or that they are no longer in charge; think David Koresh or Jim Jones for reference.

[marcusd]

100% in Chiang Mai from many people my ten Thai staff talk too, shops, restaurants, generally. They are RED but not SHIN anymore

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[marcusd]

She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

Well done Yingluck.

She came in on the back of her party being elected at the ballot box, but she will not be leaving by democratic means.

Well done Suthep

true. BUT YOU FORGOT and it must be elective amnesia... A BOUGHT ballot box

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[marcusd]

If civll war is likely and I sincerely hope not, maybe the Thai's should really think about who's behind it all and not fall for it. Many surrounding countries would prosper economically from industry and tourist re-direction if war broke out, so if the media would think before writing and use some common sense approach to it all, Thailand could be steered into a very positive direction.

Marcusd. Via tapatalk

Sensationalism and sex sells. No sex here so,you get the other tandem

[Tom420]

These polls are great. Are there chances of civil war in Thailand? Sure..it could happen in any country and has happened in most countries if they have a significant history under their belt like the U.S. and their American Civil War. I'm looking forward to the poll that gives the stats and recommendations on a comet hitting Thailand, World War 3 beginning in Thailand, Corruption Being Eradicated, and other "what if" events.

Implying the US has history, if you are going to use an example then at least use an example of a county with more than 300 years of history under it's belt.

[soalbundy]

I do not wish to see more deaths. Why can't both sides back up one step to move the country in the right direction? It is a simple solution, but it's all of because of pride. Please don't value your honor and pride over the loss of people lives.

Hey stickyrice where have you been hiding all these years? pride,ie. face, is everything to a Thai brain,its worth a few dead bodies every time

[soalbundy]

Not risk whatsoever. Zero....nada...zip...

Civil war requires planning and management skills.

Although your remark was flippant, and not that I think Thailand will collaspe into a full blown civil war, but it does raise an interesting question, lets suppose Thailand did collaspe into a full blown civil war, do TV's esteemed members have a get out of dodge plan ?, if it did happen whats your plan ?, do you stand to loose everything becasue you have your eggs all in one basket ?, If you had to could you leave at start a new life somewhere else ?

Think these aspects might be better discussion points on the topic of a Thai Civil war, rather than the typical..."Sutheps a facist, its all his fault you know"

A highly esteemed TV member swirls and sniffs his Bordeaux as he stares blankly into space. As he ponders his fate in an uncertain world, he suddenly raises an eyebrow and asks himself the question, "Do I have all of my bottles in the same basket?"

Why get out? the Baht will fall big time......happy day's are here again......who cares,let the idiots kill each other until they are exhausted then someone will say, "Hey why don't we hold an election?"

[soalbundy]

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She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

Well done Yingluck. alt=bah.gif width=19 height=19>

This kind of thinking is the cause of civil war.

Can a war be civil? a sort of polite slaughter,would make a change from all that carnage. Politeness never hurt anyone said my mother.

"Could you lower your forehead a little please,i cant seem to get at the pre-frontal lobe from this angle"

"Oh i'm so sorry,like this? alright? i do hope it doesn't rain tonight".

[connda]

Who benefits. Answer that question and you can probably determine the likelihood. Obviously the fact that a poll like this starts hitting MSM outlets indicates to me that someone is testing the water? Or not.

[Skywalker69]

She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

Well done Yingluck.

And she said not long ago. "Shinawatras don´t want power we want peace" Upp yours Yingluck. Guess we know from whom you learnt "white lies" from.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/07/us-thailand-yingluck-idUSBRE9B606G20131207

[BritManToo]

Not risk whatsoever. Zero....nada...zip...

Civil war requires planning and management skills.

Although your remark was flippant, and not that I think Thailand will collaspe into a full blown civil war, but it does raise an interesting question, lets suppose Thailand did collaspe into a full blown civil war, do TV's esteemed members have a get out of dodge plan ?, if it did happen whats your plan ?, do you stand to loose everything becasue you have your eggs all in one basket ?, If you had to could you leave at start a new life somewhere else ?

Think these aspects might be better discussion points on the topic of a Thai Civil war, rather than the typical..."Sutheps a facist, its all his fault you know"

Plenty more 3rd world countries to try.

I'm thinking S. America next, with a stop over at the Phillipines on the way.

It's not as if Thailand gave me citizenship or residency, or was ever likely to.

[GAZZPA]

She came in with the promise of reconcilliation, she will be leaving with the threat of civil war.

Well done Yingluck.

She came in on the back of her party being elected at the ballot box, but she will not be leaving by democratic means.

Well done Suthep

Being elected does not mean she has immunity.

Have you seen the state the country is in under her watch, I really don't care about the political wrangling and Suthep, I just see the simple facts. Unless you have been living in a hole I am sure I don't need to list the things wrong right now and the terrible state of affairs.

I hope that civil war does not happen, I hope that the people don't allow it. The Thai people need a break from these political jokers and need some honest, strong leadership to steer the country back on course. She is not it, she needs to step aside as soon as possible.

[myluckythai]

Not risk whatsoever. Zero....nada...zip...

Civil war requires planning and management skills.

Civil war only needs a hand full of smart people and a country full of ignorant, uneducated folowers . Does thailand qualify ????? hmmmm let's see