YipYipYa123 Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 my bike wouldnt start after being left alone in a garage for a year ,so i called a famous nearby garage and the came ,took it and fixed it (its a bandit 1255cc) the invoice says ; collection fee in pickup -1000 new battery -2600 replaced coolant -640 cleaned fuel tank -640 cleaned injection system - 1000 labour cost - 1000 bill total ; 6,880 thb is this price ok ? ( also should the battery be 2600thb ,ive seen them on ebay for 50usd ? )
tingtong Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Probably you should make it clear to call you about the repair estimate before anything done? At this point, while a little too late to argue, you might still confront them about the charged price and get a discount on it. Go to another service, and ask their corresponding prices, should be your best guideline. My bike battery while probably inferior to yours...cost wife 450thb...not a famous shop though. 1
kelboy Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 way to much,i had a cb1 400 and every year was left for 6 months and would never start,after 3 years i found out it was the petrol.so i allways drain the tank and now have no probs. petrol goes off after a long time.why did they change the coolant?
kelboy Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Probably you should make it clear to call you about the repair estimate before anything done? At this point, while a little too late to argue, you might still confront them about the charged price and get a discount on it. Go to another service, and ask their corresponding prices, should be your best guideline. My bike battery while probably inferior to yours...cost wife 450thb...not a famous shop though. yes the battery should be about 500-600thb. pick up batterys are about 3500 and you get about 400 for your old one and that is fitted.
Marcel1 Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 yup, bought a new one for my click (125cc) last week 600b seems like a big rip off to me
YipYipYa123 Posted April 7, 2014 Author Posted April 7, 2014 i went in today and the bill seemed too high to me so i decided not to pay until i can negeotiate with the owner but today is holiday so hes off i didnt pay anything yet and let them keep the bike until after i can deal with the main man because the mechanics cannot change invoice etc also i agree with above poster ,it needed new coolant as well,why ??thats got nothing to do with starting the beast up also the battery seems v expensive ,possibly the injection system was blocked with but that that shouldnt cost 7k to sort ........ the problem with getting a price in advance was nobody didnt know what the issue was so they cant give me a quote by phone until check the bike and the bandit 1250 is a very heavy bike so we needed their truck and ramp to get it there .......... il have a chat tomoroww and see what can be done when the boss is in and update the thread ........ thanks for everyone who answered .
balo Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Take care, do not try to argue too much with a Thai so he will lose face in front of his staff and that could end up really bad for you.
Spoonman Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 I have seen bike batteries that expensive before. what is the brand and model number. My guess is it is a Yuasa battery.
Popular Post RubberSideDown Posted April 7, 2014 Popular Post Posted April 7, 2014 A bike battery for your Bandit could easily be 2600 baht in Thailand depended on the manufacturer- you can't compare a 1200cc Bandit to a Honda Click (and you bought it from a shop, not eBay- the price back home and the price in LOS won't be the same- note, though, that a Yuasa battery for my bike would be over 2700 baht- $85- in the US). If your bike sat for a year with gasohol without being started, the fuel system would need to be cleaned and flushed. Who knows about the coolant, but, again, if your bike fits for an extended period, changing the fluids is a good idea. You got a big bike worked on- that's going to be pricey compared to your corner scooter shop- if you found the work acceptable, I wouldn't fight about it too much- you might save 500 baht, but then you might also have to take your business elsewhere next time. I think your price is OK. 8
colin123 Posted April 7, 2014 Posted April 7, 2014 Battery for My Monster 795 was 3600 baht Ducati 3rd road wanted 6800 Baht. Same model and brand. Whilst your bill adds up, they have done a fair amount of work. 1
YipYipYa123 Posted April 8, 2014 Author Posted April 8, 2014 Battery for My Monster 795 was 3600 baht Ducati 3rd road wanted 6800 Baht. Same model and brand. Whilst your bill adds up, they have done a fair amount of work. i get what your saying ,but have they really done all that work or likely just padded the bill ?
YipYipYa123 Posted April 8, 2014 Author Posted April 8, 2014 A bike battery for your Bandit could easily be 2600 baht in Thailand depended on the manufacturer- you can't compare a 1200cc Bandit to a Honda Click (and you bought it from a shop, not eBay- the price back home and the price in LOS won't be the same- note, though, that a Yuasa battery for my bike would be over 2700 baht- $85- in the US). If your bike sat for a year with gasohol without being started, the fuel system would need to be cleaned and flushed. Who knows about the coolant, but, again, if your bike fits for an extended period, changing the fluids is a good idea. You got a big bike worked on- that's going to be pricey compared to your corner scooter shop- if you found the work acceptable, I wouldn't fight about it too much- you might save 500 baht, but then you might also have to take your business elsewhere next time. I think your price is OK. Im guessing they used the cheapest battery they could get their hands on but anyone running a business would do the same unless specifically instructed to use a certain type of battery ......... a generic battery for a Ninja 650cc costs 1400 from kawasaki so i could replace their battery with one of those but it may not be enough to consistantly start a bike with an engine twice as big ?? for everyone who says scooter batteries are only 400thb ,i know that but this bike is just over 10 x times bigger than a 125cc scooter so its to be expected the battery will cost more ....
Spoonman Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 Why guess what battery was used. have a look at it and tell us the brand before slagging them off saying they ripped you.
YipYipYa123 Posted April 8, 2014 Author Posted April 8, 2014 Why guess what battery was used. have a look at it and tell us the brand before slagging them off saying they ripped you. i didnt say they ripped me off and even if they did its an issue il take up with the shop owner anyway and how he deals with it will determine whether i bring any more bikes there to fix or advise friends to do same etc slagging him or his business off on the internet like a little bitch is not my style, i like the guy/shop and weve done business many times before over the years (If you care to read back i have purposely not mentioned the name of his shop so this is merely asking for other peoples opinions about the repairs cost to get a rough idea of the repair costs)-but thank you for your help anyway
YipYipYa123 Posted April 8, 2014 Author Posted April 8, 2014 So what battery was used ? sorry ,yesterday i didnt have the keys to take off the seat to check ,i was passing the shop on my other bike so called in to check the damage and it was roughly just shy of 7k il update the thread with battery model later when i can establish the facts in case it helps someone in future with similar issues (btw i dont expect to get the ebay/internet price for a battery ,even if they used a low grade generic one ,i was just using that as my research guideline and i think the old coolant would have been fine since its a pretty new bike but if theyve changed it its too late to change it back ) thanks for all the input guys .........
ll2 Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 collection fee in pickup -1000 - OK new battery -2600 - It should be not more than 2000 thb bit bike battery prices vary brand to brand. There are a lot more expensive batteries on the market,. replaced coolant -640 - 100 thb max.(coolant might evaporate if bike sits for a time) cleaned fuel tank -640 - 640 thb for that?? It can be done easily cleaned injection system - 1000 - Again expensive to ask 1000 thb for this labour cost - 1000 - Honda Bigwing charges 300 thb for 2 hours work as labor. so give or take, these repairs must be round 4000 baht and maximum 5000 thb let say.
moe666 Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 Have you visited other shops to get cost estimates you need to be able and defend your argument not making assumptions about cost
BirdsandBooze Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 Are you satisfied with the way the bike is running because you will be stepping on eggshells when trying to renegotiate the bill. If you can speak Thai do so because it will be easier to steer the conversation in an easy manner that the shop owner is more likely to understand and less likely to take offence to.
YipYipYa123 Posted April 8, 2014 Author Posted April 8, 2014 collection fee in pickup -1000 - OK new battery -2600 - It should be not more than 2000 thb bit bike battery prices vary brand to brand. There are a lot more expensive batteries on the market,. replaced coolant -640 - 100 thb max.(coolant might evaporate if bike sits for a time) cleaned fuel tank -640 - 640 thb for that?? It can be done easily cleaned injection system - 1000 - Again expensive to ask 1000 thb for this labour cost - 1000 - Honda Bigwing charges 300 thb for 2 hours work as labor. so give or take, these repairs must be round 4000 baht and maximum 5000 thb let say. Youre comparing apples with oranges its not a thai built honda bike ,its an imported suzuki made in japan for the jap and euro market that was never sold in thailand , its unlikley they have the service manual they can go to for advice on a bike they have likley never worked on before beside that ,anything sold at big wing would still be under warranty so theyre obliged to fix it il get a breakdown later anyway and post up the invoice details
ll2 Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 collection fee in pickup -1000 - OK new battery -2600 - It should be not more than 2000 thb bit bike battery prices vary brand to brand. There are a lot more expensive batteries on the market,. replaced coolant -640 - 100 thb max.(coolant might evaporate if bike sits for a time) cleaned fuel tank -640 - 640 thb for that?? It can be done easily cleaned injection system - 1000 - Again expensive to ask 1000 thb for this labour cost - 1000 - Honda Bigwing charges 300 thb for 2 hours work as labor. so give or take, these repairs must be round 4000 baht and maximum 5000 thb let say. Youre comparing apples with oranges its not a thai built honda bike ,its an imported suzuki made in japan for the jap and euro market that was never sold in thailand , its unlikley they have the service manual they can go to for advice on a bike they have likley never worked on before beside that ,anything sold at big wing would still be under warranty so theyre obliged to fix it il get a breakdown later anyway and post up the invoice details i am just stating the fact that the big service area with pro staff and dynos and all that equipment some trained in Japan charges 300 thb for 2 hours of work and your small shop is charging three times more. 1
YipYipYa123 Posted April 8, 2014 Author Posted April 8, 2014 collection fee in pickup -1000 - OK new battery -2600 - It should be not more than 2000 thb bit bike battery prices vary brand to brand. There are a lot more expensive batteries on the market,. replaced coolant -640 - 100 thb max.(coolant might evaporate if bike sits for a time) cleaned fuel tank -640 - 640 thb for that?? It can be done easily cleaned injection system - 1000 - Again expensive to ask 1000 thb for this labour cost - 1000 - Honda Bigwing charges 300 thb for 2 hours work as labor. so give or take, these repairs must be round 4000 baht and maximum 5000 thb let say. Youre comparing apples with oranges its not a thai built honda bike ,its an imported suzuki made in japan for the jap and euro market that was never sold in thailand , its unlikley they have the service manual they can go to for advice on a bike they have likley never worked on before beside that ,anything sold at big wing would still be under warranty so theyre obliged to fix it il get a breakdown later anyway and post up the invoice details i am just stating the fact that the big service area with pro staff and dynos and all that equipment some trained in Japan charges 300 thb for 2 hours of work and your small shop is charging three times more. fair enough ,im not here to argue i just wanted to know if the rates were ''normalish " or too high for the work (its not a small soi shop btw ,if i wrote the name most here would know it ) they specialise in big bikes ,often goldwings and harley davisions and litre bikes from japan although he has some ducattis at the moment too
ll2 Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 collection fee in pickup -1000 - OK new battery -2600 - It should be not more than 2000 thb bit bike battery prices vary brand to brand. There are a lot more expensive batteries on the market,. replaced coolant -640 - 100 thb max.(coolant might evaporate if bike sits for a time) cleaned fuel tank -640 - 640 thb for that?? It can be done easily cleaned injection system - 1000 - Again expensive to ask 1000 thb for this labour cost - 1000 - Honda Bigwing charges 300 thb for 2 hours work as labor. so give or take, these repairs must be round 4000 baht and maximum 5000 thb let say. Youre comparing apples with oranges its not a thai built honda bike ,its an imported suzuki made in japan for the jap and euro market that was never sold in thailand , its unlikley they have the service manual they can go to for advice on a bike they have likley never worked on before beside that ,anything sold at big wing would still be under warranty so theyre obliged to fix it il get a breakdown later anyway and post up the invoice details i am just stating the fact that the big service area with pro staff and dynos and all that equipment some trained in Japan charges 300 thb for 2 hours of work and your small shop is charging three times more. fair enough ,im not here to argue i just wanted to know if the rates were ''normalish " or too high for the work (its not a small soi shop btw ,if i wrote the name most here would know it ) they specialise in big bikes ,often goldwings and harley davisions and litre bikes from japan although he has some ducattis at the moment too Of course your shop charges a lot as hard to find someone to fix a rare in Thailand bandit 1250cc. just negotiate the price and try to clear all at 5000 thb, i think it is OK. good luck!
BSJ Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 I bought a Harley size battery last year and was quoted 2900 - 4500....but I bought it wholesale and got it for less. If they charged you for labour.....why is the tank cleaning cost so high? Maybe you should have got a quote before hand. Somchai in his baht bus would have delivered it for 300! Plus 20 baht each for the moto sai guys for slinging it on the back.
Hili Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 With imported bikes iam happy to find a reliable and quaility garage pricing is 2nd priority here as cheap shops tend to deliver cheap jobs. Of course in the end the bill should be right without a feeling of being ripoff. But as others posted you should check prices and what to do BEFORE.
YipYipYa123 Posted April 8, 2014 Author Posted April 8, 2014 I bought a Harley size battery last year and was quoted 2900 - 4500....but I bought it wholesale and got it for less. If they charged you for labour.....why is the tank cleaning cost so high? Maybe you should have got a quote before hand. Somchai in his baht bus would have delivered it for 300! Plus 20 baht each for the moto sai guys for slinging it on the back. I'd rather it done by people who exclusively work on expensive bikes than the local somtam shop A ramp was needed anyway because it's a 260kg bike and the fairings would have to be ordered from abroad if they got scratched in transit so it's better to let professionals do the collection instead of a load of half drunk Street bums for 20thb each who don't really care if it gets damage for not... I tried lifting it myself with 2 lads info a truck but we had to cancel that idea because someone would have got hurt or the bike damaged or maybe both lol Tis a heavy big beast...
YipYipYa123 Posted April 8, 2014 Author Posted April 8, 2014 I bought a Harley size battery last year and was quoted 2900 - 4500....but I bought it wholesale and got it for less. If they charged you for labour.....why is the tank cleaning cost so high? Maybe you should have got a quote before hand. Somchai in his baht bus would have delivered it for 300! Plus 20 baht each for the moto sai guys for slinging it on the back. I'd rather it done by people who exclusively work on expensive bikes than the local somtam shop A ramp was needed anyway because it's a 260kg bike and the fairings would have to be ordered from abroad if they got scratched in transit so it's better to let professionals do the collection instead of a load of half drunk Street bums for 20thb each who don't really care if it gets damage for not... I tried lifting it myself with 2 lads info a truck but we had to cancel that idea because someone would have got hurt or the bike damaged or maybe both lol Tis a heavy big beast...
Overandout Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 Actually, when I first read your post it was the pick up charge that most stood out. I had my bike picked up from an underground garage where it had been stood and taken to a local bike shop and they charged me 400 THB. OK so my bike is a CBR150, but the truck they used had a hydraulic tail lift so can't think that they'd have charged more for a heavier bike.
BSJ Posted April 8, 2014 Posted April 8, 2014 I bought a Harley size battery last year and was quoted 2900 - 4500....but I bought it wholesale and got it for less. If they charged you for labour.....why is the tank cleaning cost so high? Maybe you should have got a quote before hand. Somchai in his baht bus would have delivered it for 300! Plus 20 baht each for the moto sai guys for slinging it on the back. I'd rather it done by people who exclusively work on expensive bikes than the local somtam shop A ramp was needed anyway because it's a 260kg bike and the fairings would have to be ordered from abroad if they got scratched in transit so it's better to let professionals do the collection instead of a load of half drunk Street bums for 20thb each who don't really care if it gets damage for not... I tried lifting it myself with 2 lads info a truck but we had to cancel that idea because someone would have got hurt or the bike damaged or maybe both lol Tis a heavy big beast... Maybe your right.
YipYipYa123 Posted April 9, 2014 Author Posted April 9, 2014 With imported bikes iam happy to find a reliable and quaility garage pricing is 2nd priority here as cheap shops tend to deliver cheap jobs. Of course in the end the bill should be right without a feeling of being ripoff. But as others posted you should check prices and what to do BEFORE. Since the bike weights well over 500lbs it was immovable Without a truck and a bike ramp That's like ringing a hospital from your house and asking the doctor how much your treatment will cost... A shop can't diagnose the issue without taking things apart and seeing how bad is the damage etc... Im not a mechanics and even if u was I don't have any tools so I just tried a few simple things at home and when they didn't work I gave up and called people who do this for a living.....
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