webfact Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 7 crew of Thai trawler confess killing Indonesian navy personnelBy Digital ContentSONGKHLA, April 10 - Seven crew members of a Thai trawler were charged with the coordinated murder of two Indonesian naval personnel on board their boat in the neighbouring country's territorial waters on March 9, Thai police said today.Royal Thai Police Assistant Commissioner General Jakthip Chaijinda said nine crew members of fishing boat Sor Nattaya 7 were held earlier and initially charged with breaching the Immigration Act.Songkhla police investigators and Attorney General representatives Individually interrogated the nine men and took them to point the spot on board where each was assigned to work. Seven of them confessed to the charges.They claimed that they killed the two Indonesians on the orders of the trawler captain whom they identified as Opas Charoenporn, who remains at large.The Indonesian naval officers reportedly boarded the Thai trawler for an inspection when the incident took place. (MCOT online news)-- TNA 2014-04-10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I expect the next inspection by the Indonesain Navy personnel will involve a lot more than two naval officers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 nine crew members, does this include the captain? or is he only the one that told them to do it...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwhisper Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 The Nuremberg defense ("We were just following orders") again! How about if these seven crew members had displayed some decent human behavior and refused the captain's orders? There is more to it than meets the eye. One doesn't kill anyone - let alone foreign government officials - in an ad hoc manner just because "the captain ordered it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Throw away the key.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Throw away the key.. Throw away the spent cartridges. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WoopyDoo Posted April 10, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2014 What is the betting that these are all non-Thai people and they will eventually handed over to the Indonesians for trial and almost certain execution. While at the same time, not a single Thai will be ever caught. This is Thailand... It is how it works here. Just in the same way, if a Thai was wanted for smuggling 379KG of heroin from France to the UK.... he would not be extradited to France. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 If it was up to the Indo authorities, those guys would get the death penalty for sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> What is the betting that these are all non-Thai people and they will eventually handed over to the Indonesians for trial and almost certain execution. While at the same time, not a single Thai will be ever caught. This is Thailand... It is how it works here. Just in the same way, if a Thai was wanted for smuggling 379KG of heroin from France to the UK.... he would not be extradited to France. I thought it had been confirmed that the crew was Thai?, but more importantly it seems the captain is far more higher up in pecking list and much harder for PC Somchai to find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinhead Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Actually, in most waters, disobeying the captain would mean certain death on the spot. Similarly, dissent in Nazi Germany also meant a bullet to the head. So yes... It's usually follow orders and be a good soldier, or die. The Nuremberg defense ("We were just following orders") again! How about if these seven crew members had displayed some decent human behavior and refused the captain's orders? There is more to it than meets the eye. One doesn't kill anyone - let alone foreign government officials - in an ad hoc manner just because "the captain ordered it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbamboo Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 What do you reckon? Something along the lines of three years in jail each and a 2000 baht fine, reduced to two years as they were obeying the orders of the captain and under Thai law failure to do so could be construed as mutiny blah, blah, blah....... and as they had been so helpful to the police with their enquiries blah, blah, blah, the sentence will be suspended for three years. Meanwhile the captain has disappeared in a mysterious 'seaslide'....... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 An off topic post has been removed as well as the replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotrod4098 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 as the killing was in indonesian waters then they should be sent there for trial.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 The Nuremberg defense ("We were just following orders") again! How about if these seven crew members had displayed some decent human behavior and refused the captain's orders? There is more to it than meets the eye. One doesn't kill anyone - let alone foreign government officials - in an ad hoc manner just because "the captain ordered it". I believe that to these fishing trawlers Burmese are just fish bait. There has been a lot more than Navy personal thrown overboard by them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChoakMyDee Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Actually, in most waters, disobeying the captain would mean certain death on the spot. Similarly, dissent in Nazi Germany also meant a bullet to the head. So yes... It's usually follow orders and be a good soldier, or die. The Nuremberg defense ("We were just following orders") again! How about if these seven crew members had displayed some decent human behavior and refused the captain's orders? There is more to it than meets the eye. One doesn't kill anyone - let alone foreign government officials - in an ad hoc manner just because "the captain ordered it". You're talking out of your ass. They are on a merchant fishing vessel, not a military ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinhead Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 Case and point. Military vessels have a higher standard of accountability in the region and overall. Merchant and fishing vessels tend to have way more disappearances, instances of slavery:forced labour and overall bad behavior. Actually, in most waters, disobeying the captain would mean certain death on the spot. Similarly, dissent in Nazi Germany also meant a bullet to the head. So yes... It's usually follow orders and be a good soldier, or die. The Nuremberg defense ("We were just following orders") again! How about if these seven crew members had displayed some decent human behavior and refused the captain's orders? There is more to it than meets the eye. One doesn't kill anyone - let alone foreign government officials - in an ad hoc manner just because "the captain ordered it". You're talking out of your ass. They are on a merchant fishing vessel, not a military ship. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belg Posted April 11, 2014 Share Posted April 11, 2014 chop off a limb per person and throw them into the ocean ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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