Red Shirt group calls off planned major rally on Aksa Road

[issanaus]

Heheee the last rally was supposed to be their beating of their war drums with 500,000 or more people but they couldnt get 100,000. If you all remember this rally was supposed to be a rally of numbers to see which party could show the most supporters. I guess to gracefully cancel in advance means they didnt have enough team players. My guess would be they couldnt even get the numbers they had at the last rally. Their support base is dwindling along with their leadership.

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Personally I would call it sad - the absence of supporters just shows how many have been betrayed and damaged by PTP/ Yingluck government

Many of the former supporters had noluck in their lives, now the have Yingluck which is much worse

[Robby nz]

This is funny....obviously the udd doesnt have the numbers. They are bankrupt

Please dont include me with the suthep backers tho...hes just as bankrupt. Win for the thai ppl...now find a real leader ! And elect him before the old powers appoint their person and further mess up thailand with their antiquated systems

That would be the antiquated systems of reforms they have been working on while PT have been intimidating and bullying anyone they think may oppose them.

It seems like a very sensible decision to me. At this stage this is no specific reason to hold a rally. That, of course, may very well change when the Constitution Court delivers its decision. If the consequence of that is the removal of the Caretaker PM, then we shall all be able to hazard a more informed opinion about the possibly dwindling support for the UDD.

Actually there were supposed to be two reasons, the first was to show the world they had more support than Suthep.

The second to support their brave leaders who have a court appearance tomorrow regarding breach of bail.

[winstonc]

This is funny....obviously the udd doesnt have the numbers. They are bankrupt

Please dont include me with the suthep backers tho...hes just as bankrupt. Win for the thai ppl...now find a real leader ! And elect him before the old powers appoint their person and further mess up thailand with their antiquated systems

thats why everyone wants reform before an election..to shake up this pile of dung

[BigMountain]

This is funny....obviously the udd doesnt have the numbers. They are bankrupt

Please dont include me with the suthep backers tho...hes just as bankrupt. Win for the thai ppl...now find a real leader ! And elect him before the old powers appoint their person and further mess up thailand with their antiquated systems

thats why everyone wants reform before an election..to shake up this pile of dung

Yes everybody wants reform but the ppl proposing it are the same ol same ol! Every old hand is on the scene!

[PatOngo]

Red Shirt group calls off planned major rally on Aksa Road

Come on,give them a break,they are very tired from throwing water around and getting drunk the last few days....they need a rest.

[winstonc]

This is funny....obviously the udd doesnt have the numbers. They are bankrupt

Please dont include me with the suthep backers tho...hes just as bankrupt. Win for the thai ppl...now find a real leader ! And elect him before the old powers appoint their person and further mess up thailand with their antiquated systems

thats why everyone wants reform before an election..to shake up this pile of dung

Yes everybody wants reform but the ppl proposing it are the same ol same ol! Every old hand is on the scene!

it makes not the slightest bit of difference who proposes it..its whether its implemented and adhered to me thinks..what has this country got to lose if it doesnt try at least to give it a go..

[Ricardo]

If anyone has an issue with varmints raiding their vegetable garden, just make some copies of the photo in the OP and put them around the perimeter of the garden. Problem solved.

Reds under the in the flower-beds ?

[BigMountain]

This is funny....obviously the udd doesnt have the numbers. They are bankrupt

Please dont include me with the suthep backers tho...hes just as bankrupt. Win for the thai ppl...now find a real leader ! And elect him before the old powers appoint their person and further mess up thailand with their antiquated systems

thats why everyone wants reform before an election..to shake up this pile of dung

Yes everybody wants reform but the ppl proposing it are the same ol same ol! Every old hand is on the scene!

it makes not the slightest bit of difference who proposes it..its whether its implemented and adhered to me thinks..what has this country got to lose if it doesnt try at least to give it a go..

And thats precisely the difference between us: we both agree reform is needed but we disagree on who should be conducting. I hold no faith in suthep and his cronies and superiors!

[JesseFrank]

They probably overlooked the fact that Thai post didn't work during Songkran holidays, so the pay checque didn't arrive

[Skywalker69]

Come on Thida and Jatuporn, where's your massive support now?

I must say they don´t look to happy, wonder why?

Edited April 17, 2014 by Skywalker69

[Skywalker69]

Not enough people again? Or not enough money to pay people to rally?

No wonder the trip to Hong Kong to meet the escaped convict.

The one handeling the photoshop program isn´t back from Songkran holiday yet.

[northernjohn]

On April 6 Jatuporn challenged Suthep to a rally numbers game - whoever gathered the more people would " win " - whatever that was supposed to mean. It's not certain that Jatuporn knew what that meant, either. But one thing he did understand - he'd lose the bet. So all the subsequent talk by the UDD about 2 million people " paralyzing " Bangkok ( peacefully, of course ) was just that - just talk. Not that the people of Bangkok are not relieved by the UDD's numbers problem. One can sense the relief in Vistavision. Fascinating that Jatuporn didn't show up during the UDD conference. Now perhaps they will tone down their rhetoric regarding the judicial process. One can only hope.

Well in a way it was entertaining to watch the nonsense coming out of their mouth and Fab4 and his gang assuring us it was all a fact. Crap might have to go read a book or take the wife out for some entertainment.

It seems like a very sensible decision to me. At this stage this is no specific reason to hold a rally. That, of course, may very well change when the Constitution Court delivers its decision. If the consequence of that is the removal of the Caretaker PM, then we shall all be able to hazard a more informed opinion about the possibly dwindling support for the UDD.

It was a sensible decision to cancel a non sensible rally. To go ahead with the rally even had it been largely supported would have been a waste of time. The courts will rule using law not how many idiots are standing in the sun turning the area in to a pig sty.

Good to see Fab4 and Robert had the grace to send their apprentice.

[MaxLee]

They probably overlooked the fact that Thai post didn't work during Songkran holidays, so the pay checque didn't arrive

Never mind, it's just gonna be delayed then...

[northernjohn]

thats why everyone wants reform before an election..to shake up this pile of dung

Yes everybody wants reform but the ppl proposing it are the same ol same ol! Every old hand is on the scene!

it makes not the slightest bit of difference who proposes it..its whether its implemented and adhered to me thinks..what has this country got to lose if it doesnt try at least to give it a go..

And thats precisely the difference between us: we both agree reform is needed but we disagree on who should be conducting. I hold no faith in suthep and his cronies and superiors!

sorry if I am wrong but I was under the impression that if Yingluck steps down or is thrown out on her ear the senate would pick the new interim PM..

Can't say as I recall Suthep saying he was going to run the show. If I remember right he was going to prepare a list of people he would like to see in the office and I am quite sure the PTP will do the same thing. Now I can not say who he was going to give his list to but I am sure it would be a person of high morals.

Just because you don't like the man don't go making false accusations. I don't care for Abhist but I will not make up false accusations against him. In my opinion he would be the perfect Prime Minister after the reforms. But then again I speak only out of care for Thailand. I stand nothing to gain from it. I am a self supporting retired person with guaranteed incomes and a good life. I personally gain nothing except an even happier wife if the Shinawatra's are thrown completely lock stock and barrel out of the Thai government.

[Robby nz]

it makes not the slightest bit of difference who proposes it..its whether its implemented and adhered to me thinks..what has this country got to lose if it doesnt try at least to give it a go..

And thats precisely the difference between us: we both agree reform is needed but we disagree on who should be conducting. I hold no faith in suthep and his cronies and superiors!

Then who would you have faith in to plan and implement meaningful reforms ?

Perhaps you could elaborate on what you mean by 'same old',

I assume you are meaning the reforms not those who are proposing them,

Anyway surely it is the content of the reforms (which we have no details of yet) that are important and not who puts them together.

If the eventual reform package, using ideas from all groups is good and addresses the reforms needed in each area then what is the problem with who proposed them ?

At present there is one major player who has not addressed reforms rather insisting on an election first.

Do you trust any political party once in power to implement reforms that would curb their ability to engage in corrupt practice ?

[fab4]

One of 2 things is happening right now:

1. Those behind the scenes deal and accommodations are coming to fruition,

and/or

2. They've finally realized they don't have the popular support they thought they had.

Personally, I'm going with both 1 and 2.

I'm sure fab4 and Fryslan boppe (Robert as he enjoys to be called) will come back to say its simply too close to songkran and everyone is tired.

Sorry, I'm too busy looking for varmints at the bottom of my garden. Yee Hah!

[Skywalker69]

If anyone has an issue with varmints raiding their vegetable garden, just make some copies of the photo in the OP and put them around the perimeter of the garden. Problem solved.

Let me take a stab at this:

Right after Songkran, everyone is tired physically and also mentally on the current political stalemate. Can it be they cannot muster enough Reds. Instead of looking bad for a low turn out, they might as well call it off to regroup at another time?

Secondly, can it be possible, the fund is running low? No cash is coming in from Dubai. On top of it, the caretaker cabinet cannot make any fund appropriation to incur debt for the next administration, so there is really no trough for these pigs to put their snouts in, which means no corruption, no money!

Just, can it be that?....

No cash is coming in from Dubai

Maybe "The Man in the sand" is tired of putting money on a three legged horse?

[northernjohn]

Red Shirt group calls off tomorrow’s major rally
By Digital Content



BANGKOK, April 17 – The pro-government Red Shirt group today cancelled a planned rally on Aksa Road, earlier scheduled for tomorrow, but vowed to hold political a demonstration whenever a crucial situation arises.

"Tanavuth Vichaidith, spokesman of the Red Shirt’s United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), said the group will re-assess the situation before deciding if a major rally will be held but the cancellation of tomorrow’s demonstration is not a retreat."

It is a rout.

"The UDD earlier rallied at Aksa Road in Buddhamonthon before Songkran, but cut short its activity after three days of gathering. It announced before dispersing that a major rally would be held after Songkran.

Mr Tanavuth said the UDD would fight without pulling back, for genuine democracy for Thailand."

What does a communist know about genuine democracy?

"Thida Thavornseth, UDD adviser, said a proposal by anti-government leader Suthep Thaugsuban to appoint a prime minister under imposition in Section 7 of the Constitution would be impossible."

I wonder what her reason for saying it was imposable under Section 7

“That’s why we (Red Shirt members) have to rally to emphasise our principles against ulterior power,” she said."

There would be no ulterior power if the red shirts pulled their support for the PTP out from under there feet.

"She said the UDD originally planned a rally after a the Constitutional Court’s ruling (on the fate of caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra) but “we may organise the activity earlier if necessary."

Necessary for what? They gain nothing. Other than their entertainment value.

"She called on Red Shirt supporters to be ready for the next rally which is planned for Aksa Road and urged the Election Commission and independent agencies to ensure a fair general election, otherwise Thai people will fight for justice. (MCOT online news)"

In other words she is telling the EC to clear the details of the election with her first. She wants to make sure they are held at the low moral standards of the red shirts.

From what I am seeing now and for the last 6 months the Thai people have been fighting for justice. They even have a leader Known to many as Suthep.

I had to add a few things to clarify her message.

I wonder if the Fab4 gang will be in court tomorrow to shoe Jatuporn their support for him.

Edited April 17, 2014 by northernjohn

[fab4]

On April 6 Jatuporn challenged Suthep to a rally numbers game - whoever gathered the more people would " win " - whatever that was supposed to mean. It's not certain that Jatuporn knew what that meant, either. But one thing he did understand - he'd lose the bet. So all the subsequent talk by the UDD about 2 million people " paralyzing " Bangkok ( peacefully, of course ) was just that - just talk. Not that the people of Bangkok are not relieved by the UDD's numbers problem. One can sense the relief in Vistavision. Fascinating that Jatuporn didn't show up during the UDD conference. Now perhaps they will tone down their rhetoric regarding the judicial process. One can only hope.

Well in a way it was entertaining to watch the nonsense coming out of their mouth and Fab4 and his gang assuring us it was all a fact. Crap might have to go read a book or take the wife out for some entertainment.

It seems like a very sensible decision to me. At this stage this is no specific reason to hold a rally. That, of course, may very well change when the Constitution Court delivers its decision. If the consequence of that is the removal of the Caretaker PM, then we shall all be able to hazard a more informed opinion about the possibly dwindling support for the UDD.

It was a sensible decision to cancel a non sensible rally. To go ahead with the rally even had it been largely supported would have been a waste of time. The courts will rule using law not how many idiots are standing in the sun turning the area in to a pig sty.

Good to see Fab4 and Robert had the grace to send their apprentice.

You have anything worthwhile to say? I don't mind waiting, however long it takes..................................

[northernjohn]

On April 6 Jatuporn challenged Suthep to a rally numbers game - whoever gathered the more people would " win " - whatever that was supposed to mean. It's not certain that Jatuporn knew what that meant, either. But one thing he did understand - he'd lose the bet. So all the subsequent talk by the UDD about 2 million people " paralyzing " Bangkok ( peacefully, of course ) was just that - just talk. Not that the people of Bangkok are not relieved by the UDD's numbers problem. One can sense the relief in Vistavision. Fascinating that Jatuporn didn't show up during the UDD conference. Now perhaps they will tone down their rhetoric regarding the judicial process. One can only hope.

Well in a way it was entertaining to watch the nonsense coming out of their mouth and Fab4 and his gang assuring us it was all a fact. Crap might have to go read a book or take the wife out for some entertainment.

It seems like a very sensible decision to me. At this stage this is no specific reason to hold a rally. That, of course, may very well change when the Constitution Court delivers its decision. If the consequence of that is the removal of the Caretaker PM, then we shall all be able to hazard a more informed opinion about the possibly dwindling support for the UDD.

It was a sensible decision to cancel a non sensible rally. To go ahead with the rally even had it been largely supported would have been a waste of time. The courts will rule using law not how many idiots are standing in the sun turning the area in to a pig sty.

Good to see Fab4 and Robert had the grace to send their apprentice.

You have anything worthwhile to say? I don't mind waiting, however long it takes..................................

Fab4 rides to the defense of his apprentice.

[Mentors]

The Big Momentum comes nearer and nearer.

It just needs some more mild winds...

[bigbamboo]

Red Shirt group calls off tomorrow’s major rally

By Digital Content

BANGKOK, April 17 – The pro-government Red Shirt group today cancelled a planned rally on Aksa Road, earlier scheduled for tomorrow, but vowed to hold political a demonstration whenever a crucial situation arises.

"Tanavuth Vichaidith, spokesman of the Red Shirt’s United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), said the group will re-assess the situation before deciding if a major rally will be held but the cancellation of tomorrow’s demonstration is not a retreat."

It is a rout.

"The UDD earlier rallied at Aksa Road in Buddhamonthon before Songkran, but cut short its activity after three days of gathering. It announced before dispersing that a major rally would be held after Songkran.

Mr Tanavuth said the UDD would fight without pulling back, for genuine democracy for Thailand."

What does a communist know about genuine democracy?

"Thida Thavornseth, UDD adviser, said a proposal by anti-government leader Suthep Thaugsuban to appoint a prime minister under imposition in Section 7 of the Constitution would be impossible."

I wonder what her reason for saying it was imposable under Section 7

“That’s why we (Red Shirt members) have to rally to emphasise our principles against ulterior power,” she said."

There would be no ulterior power if the red shirts pulled their support for the PTP out from under there feet.

"She said the UDD originally planned a rally after a the Constitutional Court’s ruling (on the fate of caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra) but “we may organise the activity earlier if necessary."

Necessary for what? They gain nothing. Other than their entertainment value.

"She called on Red Shirt supporters to be ready for the next rally which is planned for Aksa Road and urged the Election Commission and independent agencies to ensure a fair general election, otherwise Thai people will fight for justice. (MCOT online news)"

In other words she is telling the EC to clear the details of the election with her first. She wants to make sure they are held at the low moral standards of the red shirts.

From what I am seeing now and for the last 6 months the Thai people have been fighting for justice. They even have a leader Known to many as Suthep.

I had to add a few things to clarify her message.

I wonder if the Fab4 gang will be in court tomorrow to shoe Jatuporn their support for him.

Look at that picture of abject misery. I've seen happier faces in the dentist's waiting room.

It does appear to be dawning on the 'reddies' that maybe they've been believing too much of their own press.

[bulekee]

Frabbe,fab4 and the others my favourite sing is " Silence is Golden".

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Come on Thida and Jatuporn, where's your massive support now?

Report doesn't mention any comment from jatuporn or from nutawut, both of whom

were very vocal and hard nosed immediately after the recent udd ''''' election ''''' of leaders.

Suddenly thida again the main mouthpiece.

Then various comments on the law regarding the various situation, but in reality none of these people are experts about the law.

Strange to say the least.

So come on fab4 and froppe, you guys often claim you where there / u have the inside information. Give us the real story.

And while your at it, please answer the many requests for answers as to why the unpaid destitute farmers went instantly / totally quiet.

[bulekee]

It seems like a very sensible decision to me. At this stage this is no specific reason to hold a rally. That, of course, may very well change when the Constitution Court delivers its decision. If the consequence of that is the removal of the Caretaker PM, then we shall all be able to hazard a more informed opinion about the possibly dwindling support for the UDD.

hahahahahaha theres always one ..admit defeat sir..

He.s new,he will learn or then again maybe not,But we all enjoy a bit of sport on here.

[bulekee]

Heheee the last rally was supposed to be their beating of their war drums with 500,000 or more people but they couldnt get 100,000. If you all remember this rally was supposed to be a rally of numbers to see which party could show the most supporters. I guess to gracefully cancel in advance means they didnt have enough team players. My guess would be they couldnt even get the numbers they had at the last rally. Their support base is dwindling along with their leadership.

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Maybe the batteries on the calculator ran out,remember how thai.s do maths,

[Smokemachine]

How dare you all jeer at the red shirts!?

Do you think the red shirts has disappeared?

They will come and if needed, they will sacrificed themselves for the sake of the democracy.

My MIL's neighbors are red shirt supporters and till now still are.

They love Thaksin so much and hope for him to come back to Thailand and lead the nation again.

He will come back one day. Many people will not like it but it will happen one day.

[Roadman]

How dare you all jeer at the red shirts!?

Do you think the red shirts has disappeared?

They will come and if needed, they will sacrificed themselves for the sake of the democracy.

My MIL's neighbors are red shirt supporters and till now still are.

They love Thaksin so much and hope for him to come back to Thailand and lead the nation again.

He will come back one day. Many people will not like it but it will happen one day.

For his Gnan Sop? Many people at that point will be neutral. Edited April 17, 2014 by Roadman

[Basil B]

Rumor is Adobe have informed the UDD/PTP/Red Shirts that they will sue them if they use Photo Shop again as their last effort was a slur on there brilliant product.

[WhizBang]

Now that's just plain embarassing. You call a revolution and no one shows up.

[rametindallas]

Red Shirt group calls off tomorrow’s major rally

By Digital Content

BANGKOK, April 17 – The pro-government Red Shirt group today cancelled a planned rally on Aksa Road, earlier scheduled for tomorrow, but vowed to hold political a demonstration whenever a crucial situation arises.

"Tanavuth Vichaidith, spokesman of the Red Shirt’s United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), said the group will re-assess the situation before deciding if a major rally will be held but the cancellation of tomorrow’s demonstration is not a retreat."

It is a rout.

"The UDD earlier rallied at Aksa Road in Buddhamonthon before Songkran, but cut short its activity after three days of gathering. It announced before dispersing that a major rally would be held after Songkran.

Mr Tanavuth said the UDD would fight without pulling back, for genuine democracy for Thailand."

What does a communist know about genuine democracy?

"Thida Thavornseth, UDD adviser, said a proposal by anti-government leader Suthep Thaugsuban to appoint a prime minister under imposition in Section 7 of the Constitution would be impossible."

I wonder what her reason for saying it was imposable under Section 7

“That’s why we (Red Shirt members) have to rally to emphasise our principles against ulterior power,” she said."

There would be no ulterior power if the red shirts pulled their support for the PTP out from under there feet.

"She said the UDD originally planned a rally after a the Constitutional Court’s ruling (on the fate of caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra) but “we may organise the activity earlier if necessary."

Necessary for what? They gain nothing. Other than their entertainment value.

"She called on Red Shirt supporters to be ready for the next rally which is planned for Aksa Road and urged the Election Commission and independent agencies to ensure a fair general election, otherwise Thai people will fight for justice. (MCOT online news)"

In other words she is telling the EC to clear the details of the election with her first. She wants to make sure they are held at the low moral standards of the red shirts.

From what I am seeing now and for the last 6 months the Thai people have been fighting for justice. They even have a leader Known to many as Suthep.

I had to add a few things to clarify her message.

I wonder if the Fab4 gang will be in court tomorrow to shoe Jatuporn their support for him.

Look at that picture of abject misery. I've seen happier faces in the dentist's waiting room.

It does appear to be dawning on the 'reddies' that maybe they've been believing too much of their own press.

Notice the body language. "The mouth guard is one of the few adult gestures that is as obvious as a child's. The hand covers the mouth and the thumb is pressed against the cheek as the brain sub-consciously instructs it to try and suppress the deceitful words that are being said." http://www.indiabix.com/body-language/hand-to-face-gestures/

Three have hand to mouth, one has arms crossed, and Thida's shoulders are drooping. I think Dr. Thaksin has just raked them over the coals for their ineptness at organizing the rally and for wasting his precious, precious money. At this moment, they look like a spent force. Time will tell.

Edited April 17, 2014 by rametindallas