webfact Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Norwegian Seriously injured in 2nd floor fall from Jomtien HotelPATTAYA: -- On Sunday Morning Police and rescue workers were called to a Hotel in Jomtien to investigate reports of a foreign man who had fallen from a low floor at the Hotel, but was seriously injured.Arriving at the scene, medics attended to the 52 year old Norwegian who was lying underneath his 2nd floor apartment. He had sustained a serious head injury and was in a semi-conscious state.Khun Nanglat aged 37 is the wife of a friend of the victim and told Police that the man was known to drink heavily and when drunk would become paranoid that someone wanted to kill him. It is thought this state of paranoia led him to jump off his 2nd floor balcony.Full story: http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/125657/norwegian-seriously-injured-in-2nd-floor-fall-from-jomtien-hotel/-- Pattaya One 2014-04-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daveAustin Posted April 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2014 Why is it always assumed people are attempting suicide? I reckon many of these 'jumpers' are likely accidents. Balconies in Thai hotels/condos are notoriously low and many farang are tall/overweight/like a drink. Not saying I'm either of the above but on many occasions have felt nervy when leaning against these low balconies as the weight shifts. Just sayin. Hope he makes a full recovery. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WoopyDoo Posted April 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2014 Why is it always assumed people are attempting suicide? I reckon many of these 'jumpers' are likely accidents. Balconies in Thai hotels/condos are notoriously low and many farang are tall/overweight/like a drink. Not saying I'm either of the above but on many occasions have felt nervy when leaning against these low balconies as the weight shifts. Just sayin. Hope he makes a full recovery. I agree. Balconies here are a lot more dangerous than those of th west which have a railing that is higherto accomodate taller people, and also most westerners have a lot of upper body mass compared with locals, and just leaning over a low railing especially when pissed can cause a person to flip over. Which is why I refrain from even leaning over a Thai balcony. Probably two thirds of my boy weight is above my hips, and Thai balconies are about hip height to me. That guy looks quite tall with a large upper body mass. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nielsk Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Balconies. So what ? Ignorant, stupid and drunk people die and have accidents in trafic too. Motorbikes and vehicles fault. No. Up to You to take care when possible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDrinker Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I had an extra rail put in the balcony of our Bangkok condo as t he existing barrier was just to darn low and gave me the heebies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kkup Posted April 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) They should install trampolines at the base of all hotels in Pattaya and Phuket so they can bounce back into their room. Edited April 21, 2014 by kkup 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon467367354 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 there really should be a warning that the balcony railings are lower than than those in countries that have building codes. People are just not prepared for that and fall over them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nielsk Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 gr8fldanielle. Hope U are joking. We are not in a kindergarten. We are talking of adults where a mill. signs make no difference. Vaste of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert888d Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 They are always suicides or accidents in Thailand. Nobody is ever pushed off the balcony !!!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee b Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I like to drink alcohol, sometimes i have 1 too many. I enjoy sitting on our balcony, i have never thought of jumping though. The only way in the future that i would go over that top rail is if i was thrown over it. If this happens it would be down to my wife. Although this story could be true, he might not have jumped, and to be honest all these balcony incidents seem to happen to foreign men that are quite old... Could there be a reason for it?? Emm??? Anyway hope the guy makes a full recovery, and next time gets a room on the ground floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ggt Posted April 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2014 "would become paranoid that someone wanted to kill him." I wonder...if he reads Thaivisa everyday? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiready Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 "I believe I can Fly....I believe I can touch the Sky" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Troll and off topic posts removed also quoted replies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Why is it always assumed people are attempting suicide? I reckon many of these 'jumpers' are likely accidents. Balconies in Thai hotels/condos are notoriously low and many farang are tall/overweight/like a drink. Not saying I'm either of the above but on many occasions have felt nervy when leaning against these low balconies as the weight shifts. Just sayin. Hope he makes a full recovery. Would be interesting to compare figures of similar incidents from other countries, or for that matter, balcony-related mishaps in Thailand that involve Thais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinChin67 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 gr8fldanielle. Hope U are joking. We are not in a kindergarten. We are talking of adults where a mill. signs make no difference. Vaste of money. Okay, so we can take safety belts out from the cars too and stop using helmets.. Let's get rid of all building safety codes too so I can make more money when doing construction as I don't need to install all kinds of safety equipment etc.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 ...always the ready with an explanation why nobody else is involved or to blame..... ...hopefully he will recover enough to get his version.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godden Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 The question is did he jump or was he pushed. Thailand #1 for jumpers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DD13 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Having observed the construction of condo blocks here, I would not risk leaning against any balcony here. I just don't feel that the balcony rails are anchored properly to the main fabric of the building, to give 100% safety...... As a Thai builder who does work for me says....."corruption here affects the quality in all aspects of building work in this country And that, I am sad to say, will stop this lovely country moving forward at the pace of others. Edited April 21, 2014 by DD13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nielsk Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 gr8fldanielle. Hope U are joking. We are not in a kindergarten. We are talking of adults where a mill. signs make no difference. Vaste of money. Okay, so we can take safety belts out from the cars too and stop using helmets.. Let's get rid of all building safety codes too so I can make more money when doing construction as I don't need to install all kinds of safety equipment etc.. What You talking about FinChin67 ?? You compare mentioned safety codes with a sign: "Do not lean out". You must be joking too. If not, then be careful You don't fall out from a balcony if no sign.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 The question is did he jump or was he pushed. Thailand #1 for jumpers. And your factual source for this statistic please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Watcher Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 From what I've seen balcony heights are 1/2 m Not the 1 metre they should be (39 inches) Most have a "step-up" which means ALL I have seen are way undersized. And No it's not expensive to add a rail to raise the centre of gravity protection he and many others need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejcb Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Why is it always assumed people are attempting suicide? I reckon many of these 'jumpers' are likely accidents. Balconies in Thai hotels/condos are notoriously low and many farang are tall/overweight/like a drink. Not saying I'm either of the above but on many occasions have felt nervy when leaning against these low balconies as the weight shifts. Just sayin. Hope he makes a full recovery. Would be interesting to compare figures of similar incidents from other countries, or for that matter, balcony-related mishaps in Thailand that involve Thais. No, that wouldn't be in the least bit interesting to anyone of reasonable intelligence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TinoThailand Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Floor 2 is 1, in the west he would be dead or turned more and only brake a leg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinChin67 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 gr8fldanielle. Hope U are joking. We are not in a kindergarten. We are talking of adults where a mill. signs make no difference. Vaste of money. Okay, so we can take safety belts out from the cars too and stop using helmets.. Let's get rid of all building safety codes too so I can make more money when doing construction as I don't need to install all kinds of safety equipment etc.. What You talking about FinChin67 ?? You compare mentioned safety codes with a sign: "Do not lean out". You must be joking too. If not, then be careful You don't fall out from a balcony if no sign.... No, not joking. I read your other post too. Balconies. So what ? Ignorant, stupid and drunk people die and have accidents in trafic too. Motorbikes and vehicles fault. No. Up to You to take care when possible Yes, there is personal responsibility and at no point I have not said otherwise. From your comments it's easy to understand that it is always the persons fault who falls. Why build any railings then? Why do we have ANY warning signs like for live wires etc.? Oh, you know what to touch and what not. Next time when you travel to a hotel or take a cruise please DO ignore all the signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinChin67 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) From what I've seen balcony heights are 1/2 m Not the 1 metre they should be (39 inches) Most have a "step-up" which means ALL I have seen are way undersized. And No it's not expensive to add a rail to raise the centre of gravity protection he and many others need. I have done that in several buildings. It's not only the height but how these are fastened/anchored to the floor and wall. In MANY cases the metal plates (or other systems) are just way too weak to hold a normal person. Weldings that are not properly done can crack easily too. Not to mention that sometimes when there is a party several people can lean over or push against the railing. You want these kid proof too.. Edited April 21, 2014 by FinChin67 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gsxrnz Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 (edited) Why is it always assumed people are attempting suicide? I reckon many of these 'jumpers' are likely accidents. Balconies in Thai hotels/condos are notoriously low and many farang are tall/overweight/like a drink. Not saying I'm either of the above but on many occasions have felt nervy when leaning against these low balconies as the weight shifts. Just sayin. Hope he makes a full recovery. Would be interesting to compare figures of similar incidents from other countries, or for that matter, balcony-related mishaps in Thailand that involve Thais. According to these official statistics from the US http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/acc-inj.htm , the death rate from "unintentional falls" is 8.4 per 100,000. Only slightly less than deaths from traffic accidents at 10.9 per 100,000 and unintentional poisoning at 10.9 per 100,000. If we assume there are 200,000 permanent western residents in Thailand, plus say 10 million tourists (50% of the TAT official tourist visitors of circa 20 million), then at least 30 western deaths in Thailand from balcony type falls per annum is probably within comparable statistical probability. Edited April 21, 2014 by Gsxrnz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogNo1 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 OMG! Another balcony fall! Is anyone keeping count? How many does that make this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
how241 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Why is it always assumed people are attempting suicide? I reckon many of these 'jumpers' are likely accidents. Balconies in Thai hotels/condos are notoriously low and many farang are tall/overweight/like a drink. Not saying I'm either of the above but on many occasions have felt nervy when leaning against these low balconies as the weight shifts. Just sayin. Hope he makes a full recovery. I agree. Balconies here are a lot more dangerous than those of th west which have a railing that is higherto accomodate taller people, and also most westerners have a lot of upper body mass compared with locals, and just leaning over a low railing especially when pissed can cause a person to flip over. Which is why I refrain from even leaning over a Thai balcony. Probably two thirds of my boy weight is above my hips, and Thai balconies are about hip height to me. That guy looks quite tall with a large upper body mass. +1....I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggusoil Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 They should install trampolines at the base of all hotels in Pattaya and Phuket so they can bounce back into their room. Nice thought but, yes. Its comedy. How about nets just below the balconies? They could be decorated with vines or something. Seriously. Think about it. They would provide shade for the balcony below. If this was Australia the government would be putting them in "building regulations". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubby johnson Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Balconies: deadlier than guns. What have us humans ever done to deserve this relentless persecution by balconies? Ban all balconies! Round them up, off to the firing squad with them. Set packs of rabid dogs loose on those evil balconies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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