webfact Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 British Jeep Driver injured in high speed collision in East PattayaBANGKOK: -- Traffic was brought to a standstill on Wednesday Night after a high speed collision involving three vehicles occurred on the railroad running along the East side of Pattaya.A British National, Mr. Mario Sambucci aged 62 was the only person injured in the crash which saw his Jeep flip over after it was reportedly clipped on the rear by a Toyota Fortuna.The incident occurred where the railroad intersects with Soi Kao Noi and happened just after 7pm. The Jeep was travelling up Soi Kao Noi and the Fortuna was travelling along the railroad towards Soi Kaotalo.The Fortuna, driven by Khun Powalisar aged 37, struck the rear of the Jeep as it crossed the rail track, causing the Jeep to flip over onto its roof. The Fortuna also hit a motorbike driven by Khun Chachawan aged 30 who escaped injury.Full story: http://www.pattayaone.net/pattaya-news/126099/british-jeep-driver-injured-in-high-speed-collision-in-east-pattaya/-- Pattaya One 2014-04-25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bangkokheat Posted April 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2014 if you had any brains you would know not to swim in a tank full of sharks, yet these fools know how dangerous pattaya roads are and yet they keep driving at crazy speeds 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post craigt3365 Posted April 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2014 That road is horrible. I avoid it at all costs. Extremely dangerous. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacko45k Posted April 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) The railway line road is a good way to avoid the slow moving Sukhumvit. There are many junctions along it's length and the lights are not used.... I think correctly as they cause awful tailbacks. Problem is none of the junctions have a 'right of way'... it is a bit 'assumed' or 'first come first served' or even 'biggest wins'. When busy, they get choked up as of course traffic stops in what should be a yellow box zone. When not so busy, people in a hurry drive too fast and will hurtle across these junctions without any mind. It only needs 2 people with the same approach arriving at the same time. It can be pretty rough crossing over the railway line too. On a bike, I judge it to be safer than Sukhumvit...... Edited April 25, 2014 by jacko45k 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailaw Posted April 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2014 A "37 year old Thai male driving a Fortuner" is all that you really need to know.........They think that they own the roads, and drive like they do. Do they teach "survival of the biggest" is the Rule of the Road in drivers' education classes here in Thailand? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSixpack Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 A "37 year old Thai male driving a Fortuner" is all that you really need to know.........They think that they own the roads, and drive like they do. Do they teach "survival of the biggest" is the Rule of the Road in drivers' education classes here in Thailand? Yep. And now you know. Be safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thailandshasse Posted April 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2014 How MANY times we have to say. DON,T GO OUT TO THE CRAZY THAI TRAFFIC!!! The Thai "driver " who suffer from BRAIN, and driving experience, and DRIVING LICENCE AND INSURANCE , can not be avoided, if you don,t leave the country ! Be happy if you survive one days travel in Thailand without to get killed or injured, of same crazy, incompetent driver, who in BEST cases have 3 hours driving school,a, and driving test, who are payed "under the table " to be accepted, and signed. And if a accident appear, the Thai driver have for sure NO INSURANCES ! Have seen this under my 18 year in Thailand, every day !!! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maswov Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I would say the driver of the Jeep is probably at fault. Khao noi, khao talo, nernplubwan, etc all cross the railroad tracks and have a flashing red light which means stop. traveling along the railroad is flashing yellow meaning slow down and proceed with caution. Most people including farangs ignore the flashing red and continue like they are on the motorway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMarlow Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 (edited) A "37 year old Thai male driving a Fortuner" is all that you really need to know.........They think that they own the roads, and drive like they do. Do they teach "survival of the biggest" is the Rule of the Road in drivers' education classes here in Thailand? "Police are now investigating the crash and may press charges against one of the drivers should they decide one of those involved in the crash were at-fault." Nice to see that even though the police are still investigating to determine who was at fault you already have that information and that is all we need to know. Are you helping the police with any other investigations that can be expedited? Edited April 25, 2014 by MMarlow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MMarlow Posted April 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2014 How MANY times we have to say. DON,T GO OUT TO THE CRAZY THAI TRAFFIC!!! The Thai "driver " who suffer from BRAIN, and driving experience, and DRIVING LICENCE AND INSURANCE , can not be avoided, if you don,t leave the country ! Be happy if you survive one days travel in Thailand without to get killed or injured, of same crazy, incompetent driver, who in BEST cases have 3 hours driving school,a, and driving test, who are payed "under the table " to be accepted, and signed. And if a accident appear, the Thai driver have for sure NO INSURANCES ! Have seen this under my 18 year in Thailand, every day !!! The most ridiculous post of the day? 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MMarlow Posted April 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2014 I would say the driver of the Jeep is probably at fault. Khao noi, khao talo, nernplubwan, etc all cross the railroad tracks and have a flashing red light which means stop. traveling along the railroad is flashing yellow meaning slow down and proceed with caution. Most people including farangs ignore the flashing red and continue like they are on the motorway. Always good to see a judgement with any evidence whatsoever. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyravey Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I would say the driver of the Jeep is probably at fault. Khao noi, khao talo, nernplubwan, etc all cross the railroad tracks and have a flashing red light which means stop. traveling along the railroad is flashing yellow meaning slow down and proceed with caution. Most people including farangs ignore the flashing red and continue like they are on the motorway. Quite correct. Im amazed to see how most posters blame the Thai. It is quite simple on this road. The main road going along the railway line has right of way. This does not stop the people travelling up and down the sois not giving way. The driver of the jeep will be at fault for insurance reasons as he had a red flashing light.The fortuna only had a flashing amber light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varangkul Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I would say the driver of the Jeep is probably at fault. Khao noi, khao talo, nernplubwan, etc all cross the railroad tracks and have a flashing red light which means stop. traveling along the railroad is flashing yellow meaning slow down and proceed with caution. Most people including farangs ignore the flashing red and continue like they are on the motorway. Always good to see a judgement with any evidence whatsoever. No matter where you are, MM, the vehicle overtaking - or at the rear - is always responsible, It is the only hone who can see the whole picture. Even if the front vehicle brakes suddenly, the rear one must be of sufficient distance away to brake safely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I always stay close to the bumper of the vehicle in front of me...so that we appear to be driving in tandem...when traversing the railroad crossing...dangerous and intense experience...every time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canopus1969 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 How MANY times we have to say. DON,T GO OUT TO THE CRAZY THAI TRAFFIC!!! The Thai "driver " who suffer from BRAIN, and driving experience, and DRIVING LICENCE AND INSURANCE , can not be avoided, if you don,t leave the country ! Be happy if you survive one days travel in Thailand without to get killed or injured, of same crazy, incompetent driver, who in BEST cases have 3 hours driving school,a, and driving test, who are payed "under the table " to be accepted, and signed. And if a accident appear, the Thai driver have for sure NO INSURANCES ! Have seen this under my 18 year in Thailand, every day !!! Good to hear you have managed to survive 18 years in Thailand 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 TAT's new slogan: Like the fast & furious flicks? Visit Thailand to experience the real thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtco Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I live on Soi Khao Noi and regularly travel the Railway Road. At junctions I'm afraid it's a case of "who dares wins" ... no-one, farangs and Thai's alike, take any notice whatsoever of the warning lights determining who as "right of way". Dare I say it but the concept of "right of way" is completely unknown/ignored in Thailand as is evidenced everyday when drivers pull out of side roads in front of you without even looking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I would say the driver of the Jeep is probably at fault. Khao noi, khao talo, nernplubwan, etc all cross the railroad tracks and have a flashing red light which means stop. traveling along the railroad is flashing yellow meaning slow down and proceed with caution. Most people including farangs ignore the flashing red and continue like they are on the motorway. Always good to see a judgement with any evidence whatsoever. No matter where you are, MM, the vehicle overtaking - or at the rear - is always responsible, It is the only hone who can see the whole picture. Even if the front vehicle brakes suddenly, the rear one must be of sufficient distance away to brake safely! They were not travelling one in front of the other, one was on the railway road the other was on Khao Noi. And yes the railway road has priority over the intersecting roads, however, that does not mean that drivers on the railway road should take it for granted that their way will be clear, everybody should always approach these intersections with extreme caution. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maswov Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I would say the driver of the Jeep is probably at fault. Khao noi, khao talo, nernplubwan, etc all cross the railroad tracks and have a flashing red light which means stop. traveling along the railroad is flashing yellow meaning slow down and proceed with caution. Most people including farangs ignore the flashing red and continue like they are on the motorway. Always good to see a judgement with any evidence whatsoever. I did say probably. The evidence would be the jeep was going in the direction which is supposed to stop and the fortuner was not. Enhance you reading comprehension skills, your quality of life will improve greatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitawatWatawit Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Most people approach these very tricky intersections with a great deal of caution. Usually at 7pm, that section of road is very busy, but there are times when the rail road in the direction the Fortuner was travelling can have very few vehicles, prompting some drivers to speed up and try to "intimidate" their way through the crossing traffic (big buses are notorious for doing this on that section of road). Sometimes there's a traffic cop there, sometimes there isn't, and then it's a bloody free-for-all. Hope the Brit guy isn't too badly hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirchai Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Sorry, but i haven't seen too many good driving foreigners in Pattaya either. Saw quite a few big bike accidents caused by foreigners, who never sat on a big bike before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron19 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 How MANY times we have to say. DON,T GO OUT TO THE CRAZY THAI TRAFFIC!!! The Thai "driver " who suffer from BRAIN, and driving experience, and DRIVING LICENCE AND INSURANCE , can not be avoided, if you don,t leave the country ! Be happy if you survive one days travel in Thailand without to get killed or injured, of same crazy, incompetent driver, who in BEST cases have 3 hours driving school,a, and driving test, who are payed "under the table " to be accepted, and signed. And if a accident appear, the Thai driver have for sure NO INSURANCES ! Have seen this under my 18 year in Thailand, every day !!! The most ridiculous post of the day? Give this person a break.English is obviously a second language for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upnotover Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 It will all be fine soon, they recently announced they would be building 5 overpasses at these junctions, can't wait to see that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 It will all be fine soon, they recently announced they would be building 5 overpasses at these junctions, can't wait to see that! And the construction will probably be done at the same time they are doing the under pass at Suk and Klang! 555555 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnie99 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 "And if a accident appear, the Thai driver have for sure NO INSURANCES !" Not always true - the miriad of Thai who have hit my car have all had insurance. It helps if you stomp out of your own car (and mine is both large, expensive and I make sure I tell them I paid cash) march up to them and shout loudly "You have insurance?" They cave in instantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnie99 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 How MANY times we have to say. DON,T GO OUT TO THE CRAZY THAI TRAFFIC!!! The Thai "driver " who suffer from BRAIN, and driving experience, and DRIVING LICENCE AND INSURANCE , can not be avoided, if you don,t leave the country ! Be happy if you survive one days travel in Thailand without to get killed or injured, of same crazy, incompetent driver, who in BEST cases have 3 hours driving school,a, and driving test, who are payed "under the table " to be accepted, and signed. And if a accident appear, the Thai driver have for sure NO INSURANCES ! Have seen this under my 18 year in Thailand, every day !!! The most ridiculous post of the day? Give this person a break.English is obviously a second language for them. Sadly that also seems to be the case for many so-called English first-language speakers ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topt Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 How MANY times we have to say. DON,T GO OUT TO THE CRAZY THAI TRAFFIC!!! The Thai "driver " who suffer from BRAIN, and driving experience, and DRIVING LICENCE AND INSURANCE , can not be avoided, if you don,t leave the country ! Be happy if you survive one days travel in Thailand without to get killed or injured, of same crazy, incompetent driver, who in BEST cases have 3 hours driving school,a, and driving test, who are payed "under the table " to be accepted, and signed. And if a accident appear, the Thai driver have for sure NO INSURANCES ! Have seen this under my 18 year in Thailand, every day !!! The most ridiculous post of the day? Give this person a break.English is obviously a second language for them. I am surprised you defended him as whether first or third language his rant is perfectly comprehensible. If not ridiculous how would you describe it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinChin67 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 TAT's new slogan: Like the fast & furious flicks? Visit Thailand to experience the real thing! This should be on T shirts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron19 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 How MANY times we have to say. DON,T GO OUT TO THE CRAZY THAI TRAFFIC!!! The Thai "driver " who suffer from BRAIN, and driving experience, and DRIVING LICENCE AND INSURANCE , can not be avoided, if you don,t leave the country ! Be happy if you survive one days travel in Thailand without to get killed or injured, of same crazy, incompetent driver, who in BEST cases have 3 hours driving school,a, and driving test, who are payed "under the table " to be accepted, and signed. And if a accident appear, the Thai driver have for sure NO INSURANCES ! Have seen this under my 18 year in Thailand, every day !!! The most ridiculous post of the day? Give this person a break.English is obviously a second language for them. I am surprised you defended him as whether first or third language his rant is perfectly comprehensible. If not ridiculous how would you describe it? Courageous is how I would describe it.Not defending what was posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 I would say the driver of the Jeep is probably at fault. Khao noi, khao talo, nernplubwan, etc all cross the railroad tracks and have a flashing red light which means stop. traveling along the railroad is flashing yellow meaning slow down and proceed with caution. Most people including farangs ignore the flashing red and continue like they are on the motorway. What a crass remark. Who hit who? From what was reported the Fortuna hit the Jeep. There seems to be the same mentality in Thailand as in the Middle East i.e. the locals are the best drivers in the world. Put the blame were it is due and stop making stupid comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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