fab4 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 "three-day period would be an important battle" 17 and 18 is weekend. 19 is a Monday, start of schools and a massive traffic jam in Bangkok, but battle ? Still haven't got used to rhetoric and figures of speech then, rubl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donk Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 The greatest leader the world has seen. Chairman (Mao) Suthep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scamper Posted May 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2014 " He likened the current situation to that of May 2010 when Bangkok was transformed into a war zone pitting red-shirt followers against security forces and the situation in front of the Rajmangala stadium late last year when red-shirt followers clashed with Ramkhamhaeng University students. " This is a clear attempt to frame the future in violent terms, and as such should have the attention of every bail officer in the country. Gone is the harmless repartee from Nuttawut's May 2 challenge to Suthep to compare rally sizes on May 14 ( one wonders why ? ). It has now been replaced with talk like this - that seems to literally invite confrontation and violence. Jatuporn is in his element here. Jatuporn is Thaksin's instrument of violence and Thaksin's instrument of hate. Jatuporn - like Thaksin - doesn't want change and doesn't want people to even discuss it. Jatuporn subsequently threatens all change and threatens all those who wish to discuss it peacefully and constructively. Jatuporn and the UDD thrive on conflict. They always have. They are not a movement driven by ideas. They are a movement driven by hate. When Pheu Thai was elected in 2011 the UDD had the wind taken out of its sails. They had nothing to protest. Nothing to hate. They had the administration they wanted. But Thaksin knew - ever after the election - that the UDD would have to be fed its daily diet of hate. Red shirt radio provided that diet. Enter Jatuporn - a man so emotionally dysfunctional and conspicuously lacking of intelligence - that he was tailor-made for the job. He always had a bag of conspiracy theories to pool from. Lots of grist for hate. He could keep the hate up. Sometimes Thaksin supplied him with material - the bizarre time in 2012 when Thaksin spoke to a UDD rally through skype where he sought to get the crowd all riled up over all the money than was taken from him. The UDD - the people united with billionaires. The UDD is a cynical movement - constructed with only one purpose - to keep Thaksin in power. But that's not enough to tilt the balance away from the people's desire for change. Not nearly enough. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 hahaha this will be dictator is a multi millions leader.great joke. if this is so why he don´t like to have elections than when he had the majority behind? anyhow, keep on dreaming or taking drugs wich make you see what you like to see but never the reality :-D If you invest in a TV, this investment really pays off, as Suthep explained it a 1000 times. Short version is: He doesn't trust any party including the Democrats to do any meaningful reforms (and I think he knows how little was done when they were in government) Did Suthep himself promote any meaningful reforms while he was part of the government? What qualifies him to make judgements on who's to have a say in reforms and who wouldn't? Why are you concerned about this >>>?? How does this affect you in any way ?? Guess you could make this inane question as response to most posts on Thai politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) "UDD chairman Jatuporn Promphan said Thursday that the political situation was approaching the breaking point pretty soon as the three-day period would be an important battle." This man is a dangerous coward. Calls for violence and battles and then disappears when it kicks off. Just out of interest, on what do you base your belief that Jatuporn "Calls for violence and battles and then disappears when it kicks off"? 2010/present day Edited May 16, 2014 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 "three-day period would be an important battle" 17 and 18 is weekend. 19 is a Monday, start of schools and a massive traffic jam in Bangkok, but battle ? Still haven't got used to rhetoric and figures of speech then, rubl? Those who got killed by cowardly attacks in the night two days ago also didn't get used to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 "UDD chairman Jatuporn Promphan said Thursday that the political situation was approaching the breaking point pretty soon as the three-day period would be an important battle." This man is a dangerous coward. Calls for violence and battles and then disappears when it kicks off. Just out of interest, on what do you base your belief that Jatuporn "Calls for violence and battles and then disappears when it kicks off"? 2010 Strictly speaking Jatuporn didn't disappear. He, Nattawut, Dr. weng and other UDD leaders surrendered to the police and were taking into 'protective' custody. That was after they had told their flock "it's over, go home". Interestingly enough k. Jatuporn, as if to emphasize the 'peaceful' aspects of his battle, was wearing a Tshirt with Ghandi image on front. Looked nice what with the army still in gunfights and with a few grenades raining on them. The smoke from burning tires and buildings also gave a peaceful impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signature2013 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 It's strange to say but this country can laugh in its own face and shoot itself in the foot deliberately, with chilling accuracy and seem not concerned at the same time - seems to be the actions of delinquent fools - judge for yourself. Who would come her now? The next Thai who whinges about having no customers or money is going to get one hell of a straight answer from yours truly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) "UDD chairman Jatuporn Promphan said Thursday that the political situation was approaching the breaking point pretty soon as the three-day period would be an important battle." This man is a dangerous coward. Calls for violence and battles and then disappears when it kicks off. Just out of interest, on what do you base your belief that Jatuporn "Calls for violence and battles and then disappears when it kicks off"? 2010 Strictly speaking Jatuporn didn't disappear. He, Nattawut, Dr. weng and other UDD leaders surrendered to the police and were taking into 'protective' custody. That was after they had told their flock "it's over, go home". Interestingly enough k. Jatuporn, as if to emphasize the 'peaceful' aspects of his battle, was wearing a Tshirt with Ghandi image on front. Looked nice what with the army still in gunfights and with a few grenades raining on them. The smoke from burning tires and buildings also gave a peaceful impression. He talked the talk, worked people up and promised no surrender, victory or nothing. Then like so many cowardly leaders in the past he quit. Surrendering before it all hit the fan or running away. Same thing really. Edited May 16, 2014 by Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yann55 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) "UDD chairman Jatuporn Promphan said Thursday that the political situation was approaching the breaking point pretty soon as the three-day period would be an important battle." This man is a dangerous coward. Calls for violence and battles and then disappears when it kicks off. Isn't that what most political 'leaders' do, though ? Stand on the high ground, way behind the butchery line, and watch their 'loyal' soldiers march headfirst into it ? If 'leaders' were as threatened as are their foot soldiers to lose their lives in the wars they call for with such ardent conviction, would they not lower their tone and think twice ? We are told that 'Great Men' such as Alexander, J. Caesar, Cromwell, Napoleon and numerous others did lead their men into battle, but who wrote the history books ? Look at Napoleon on his white (of course) horse at the battle of Friedland... nice painting... and that's all it is of course, a painting, a work of imagination. Oh no, Goebbels didn't invent propaganda and the manipulation of information, he just brought them to a different level, and the 'art' kept flourishing ever since (with G. W. Bush as one of the latest and most flagrant con-artists). Edited May 16, 2014 by Yann55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 "three-day period would be an important battle" 17 and 18 is weekend. 19 is a Monday, start of schools and a massive traffic jam in Bangkok, but battle ? Still haven't got used to rhetoric and figures of speech then, rubl? Those who got killed by cowardly attacks in the night two days ago also didn't get used to it. So what's the link between an attack by unknown persons in the early hours of Thursday morning and Jatuporns rhetorical speech later that day? None whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 "three-day period would be an important battle" 17 and 18 is weekend. 19 is a Monday, start of schools and a massive traffic jam in Bangkok, but battle ? Still haven't got used to rhetoric and figures of speech then, rubl? Those who got killed by cowardly attacks in the night two days ago also didn't get used to it. So what's the link between an attack by unknown persons in the early hours of Thursday morning and Jatuporns rhetorical speech later that day? None whatsoever. Correct. Just like in 2010 it is pure coincidence that cowardly attacks in the night, firing guns or lobbing grenades are only aimed at non-red-shirts. Mind you, who says Jatuporn's speech is just rhetoric? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malthus101 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 They should just have a street battle. This is what battles are for, resolving conflict through violence. It's worked for centuries. And this way, with genuine hatred of one side towards the other is actually a very honest form of battle, unlike sending soldiers to fight wars in foreign lands that they have no personal aggression towards. Might end this disagreement on leadership a lot quicker than all these tension filled rallies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 They should just have a street battle. This is what battles are for, resolving conflict through violence. It's worked for centuries. And this way, with genuine hatred of one side towards the other is actually a very honest form of battle, unlike sending soldiers to fight wars in foreign lands that they have no personal aggression towards. Might end this disagreement on leadership a lot quicker than all these tension filled rallies. Nothing has ever been resolved by violence. It's ended opinions and thoughts, wiped out sections of the population, allowed empires and tyrannies to flourish [and ended some as well] and most of all planted the seeds for future hatred and conflict. Give me a rally any day rather than allow violence to be seen as a solution to anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I hope this doesn't mean Jatu is going to turn up the speakers on his loudspeakers even higher to hide the fact that hardly any people are out on the street. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Siripon Posted May 16, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2014 Nothing could beat the rhetoric of the great leader though, hiding in a Paris department store, Thaksin had the audacity to say, " As soon as the first bullet is fired ( by the army), I'll be back to lead from the front' classic cowardice. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Sounds like the notorious Khun_T has put his hands in his wallet, then. Yes...................and thats Thailands future ............... a dictatorship based on fear, false unfulfillable promises and bribery where a few are thrown peanuts after Shinawatras filled his belly from the trough!! political opponents are killed off cloaked by fake drug wars and people of other religions and views are herded into trucks and murdered like Tak Bai!!! What a future Juthaporn is blowing all this hot air for.............or is it just to fill his fat bank account while real people like the rice farmers starve!! What a strange view you have. Thaksin, his sister, they were actually voted in so that would equal democracy. Suthep is hell bent (rightly or wrongly) in over-throwing an elected government, he's the person who wants to install his own unelected people's council, he has taken away people's basic right to vote. His thug "guards" are stabbing seemingly innocent people for no reason and intimidating the public. Tell me again which one is dictator material? I notice you mentioned election many times in your posting But I could not find any reference to FAIR ELECTIONS Just elections under Thaskin's rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tezzainoz Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 "UDD chairman Jatuporn Promphan said Thursday that the political situation was approaching the breaking point pretty soon as the three-day period would be an important battle." This man is a dangerous coward. Calls for violence and battles and then disappears when it kicks off. Just out of interest, on what do you base your belief that Jatuporn "Calls for violence and battles and then disappears when it kicks off"? History look at the last time he did this in 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Sounds like the notorious Khun_T has put his hands in his wallet, then. Yes...................and thats Thailands future ............... a dictatorship based on fear, false unfulfillable promises and bribery where a few are thrown peanuts after Shinawatras filled his belly from the trough!! political opponents are killed off cloaked by fake drug wars and people of other religions and views are herded into trucks and murdered like Tak Bai!!! What a future Juthaporn is blowing all this hot air for.............or is it just to fill his fat bank account while real people like the rice farmers starve!! What a strange view you have. Thaksin, his sister, they were actually voted in so that would equal democracy. Suthep is hell bent (rightly or wrongly) in over-throwing an elected government, he's the person who wants to install his own unelected people's council, he has taken away people's basic right to vote. His thug "guards" are stabbing seemingly innocent people for no reason and intimidating the public. Tell me again which one is dictator material? Yingluck was voted in! Who by.. oh yes the same people that voted Abhisit in when he was PM. Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wombat6 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Did Suthep himself promote any meaningful reforms while he was part of the government? What qualifies him to make judgements on who's to have a say in reforms and who wouldn't? Why are you concerned about this >>>?? How does this affect you in any way ?? Guess you could make this inane question as response to most posts on Thai politics. You seem to be an expert on Inane questions ...possibly due to your experience ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Sounds like the notorious Khun_T has put his hands in his wallet, then. Yes...................and thats Thailands future ............... a dictatorship based on fear, false unfulfillable promises and bribery where a few are thrown peanuts after Shinawatras filled his belly from the trough!! political opponents are killed off cloaked by fake drug wars and people of other religions and views are herded into trucks and murdered like Tak Bai!!! What a future Juthaporn is blowing all this hot air for.............or is it just to fill his fat bank account while real people like the rice farmers starve!! What a strange view you have. Thaksin, his sister, they were actually voted in so that would equal democracy. Suthep is hell bent (rightly or wrongly) in over-throwing an elected government, he's the person who wants to install his own unelected people's council, he has taken away people's basic right to vote. His thug "guards" are stabbing seemingly innocent people for no reason and intimidating the public. Tell me again which one is dictator material? I notice you mentioned election many times in your posting But I could not find any reference to FAIR ELECTIONS Just elections under Thaskin's rules I'm going to contact the Oxford Dictionary and tell them to re-define the word "many" to be equal to 2 then. I used the word elected once and the word unelected once, so that's = "many" now. Really is the best you have? "Blah Blah Thaksin".... pitiful.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alwyn Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Sounds like the notorious Khun_T has put his hands in his wallet, then. Yes...................and thats Thailands future ............... a dictatorship based on fear, false unfulfillable promises and bribery where a few are thrown peanuts after Shinawatras filled his belly from the trough!! political opponents are killed off cloaked by fake drug wars and people of other religions and views are herded into trucks and murdered like Tak Bai!!! What a future Juthaporn is blowing all this hot air for.............or is it just to fill his fat bank account while real people like the rice farmers starve!! What a strange view you have. Thaksin, his sister, they were actually voted in so that would equal democracy. Suthep is hell bent (rightly or wrongly) in over-throwing an elected government, he's the person who wants to install his own unelected people's council, he has taken away people's basic right to vote. His thug "guards" are stabbing seemingly innocent people for no reason and intimidating the public. Tell me again which one is dictator material? Yingluck was voted in! Who by.. oh yes the same people that voted Abhisit in when he was PM. Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app and your point is what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
culicine Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 UDD to step up demonstration during May 17-19 Just like they did back in 2010! Yep that's what he said. They have test fired the grenade launchers and M16;s and are ready to go. Yet another breach of bail conditions. The question now is...where will they go? who exactly is the 'enemy' ? What will the 'government' do to try to contain this? If there is any sign of a civil war, the military will step in, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 (edited) UDD to step up demonstration during May 17-19 Just like they did back in 2010! Yep that's what he said. They have test fired the grenade launchers and M16;s and are ready to go. Yet another breach of bail conditions. The question now is...where will they go? who exactly is the 'enemy' ? What will the 'government' do to try to contain this? If there is any sign of a civil war, the military will step in, no doubt. I think a lot of people misuse the term civil war. Civil war isn't red-shirts attacking PDRC and vice versa. Not even if it's on a larger scale than the present. A civil war means the country is in tatters - army possibly split, armed gangs roaming unchecked, utilities and infrastructures non functional. Ordinary citizens trapped in between, some joining this or that faction. Open the news from Syria, switch back to news from Thailand. That difference. Better to can the expression and hope Thailand never ever goes there. No one "wins" these things. Any illusion that there can be a civil war without the Army being involved, and quite possibly split, should be scraped. Edited May 16, 2014 by Morch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casualbiker Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Sounds like the notorious Khun_T has put his hands in his wallet, then. Yes...................and thats Thailands future ............... a dictatorship based on fear, false unfulfillable promises and bribery where a few are thrown peanuts after Shinawatras filled his belly from the trough!! political opponents are killed off cloaked by fake drug wars and people of other religions and views are herded into trucks and murdered like Tak Bai!!! What a future Juthaporn is blowing all this hot air for.............or is it just to fill his fat bank account while real people like the rice farmers starve!! What a strange view you have. Thaksin, his sister, they were actually voted in so that would equal democracy. Suthep is hell bent (rightly or wrongly) in over-throwing an elected government, he's the person who wants to install his own unelected people's council, he has taken away people's basic right to vote. His thug "guards" are stabbing seemingly innocent people for no reason and intimidating the public. Tell me again which one is dictator material? Yingluck was voted in! Who by.. oh yes the same people that voted Abhisit in when he was PM. Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app and your point is what? You stated Yingluck was voted in.. the implication is by the voters .. but she didn't actually stand for a constituency election. She was voted PM by Parliament (as a party list mp ) as was Abhisit yet he was deemed an unelected PM (he was also party list at this time) At least Abhisit has actually been elected by the people in the past (constitute MP) Sent from my XT1032 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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