PDRC to meet Sunday afternoon to decide on action plan

[englishoak]

Not another final push only to be countered by a civil war threat from Jatuporn.

When will they ever learn and we know the answer.

What happened to you?

You used to be a PDRC supporter and agreed with their cause, and now you subscribe to the red view of lambasting the cause according to Khaosod.

Some of us have family at the rallies who tell the truth about what is said on stage, and Suthep has hardly ever mentioned the word 'final'..... It is only the media that has cashed in on that time after time and all the media fed suckers suck it up and play with it.

The country is in a dire position and most people think the most important thing to come out of the calamity is the fact they can take the p''''ss out of such a meaningless aspect.

This is serious, people are dying and the best thing people can come out with is final this and final that..... well this IS the final push now, and if you can't see that, then can I suggest you all go and hang out in the comedy thread because this is not where humour is appreciated.

Maybe NKK engaged his critical thinking in regards to the final solution ideal being peddled by the PDRC and see them for what they really are. Nothing more than hoods and a mob unprepared to take the fate of the country to the polls and elections.

All you have is a perspective managed by a certain media bias and a lot of drama queens strutting about with no answers but plenty of ridiculous claims, claims which as a solution hardly anyone agrees with, including the military or the people and certainly not the vast majority of the rest of the world ( who care ).

This country is a joke and has been regarding many things for a long long time, the world is laughing at the latest poorly led excuse for the usual coup instead of elections. Most of all Suthep is a joke of the highest magnitude, he actually thinks by not engaging with anyone elses point of view it will change or help anything ? LOL most certainly has made many claims of the final this or that and unfortunately its not only in print but also quote and on video record... a dozen different times.

Which makes you basically a liar here and or a wishful thinker or that something as petty as a colour makes anyone any different in their morals than anyone else here.. It's an ingrained and endemic social problem built up over many decades and perpetuated by the likes of Suthep and those that back him.

Here is exactly where humour is appreciated, it dosnt do to be too serious all the time, especially some of the claims or things said, absolutely laughable. Its not like Thailand takes things seriously enough for parties to actually pull together and sit down unselfishly for the good of the country before it all erupts... yet again. instead its always being about me me me.

Spoilt brat mentality is what Suthep works on ... me me me/ you you you...better than them ... deserve to rule... etc etc... all rubbish of course, but its the Thai way... why do something properly when you might lose if you can scam it instead ? its not like the educated are THAT educated to think for themselves, parrot fashion is how they learn and how they live here...

Should Suthep get his way it will only divide the country further and lead to much more violence. It wont work and in a short time people will be asking why just like before ..... again.. and again etc etc.

The real Joke is that Thailand puts up with groups like this and the coups that keep things here in perpetual instability but still some think the answer is yet another coup or non elected appointment because thats what they want to hear..... complete imbeciles.

[Civil War]

Not another final push only to be countered by a civil war threat from Jatuporn.

When will they ever learn and we know the answer.

What happened to you?

You used to be a PDRC supporter and agreed with their cause, and now you subscribe to the red view of lambasting the cause according to Khaosod.

Some of us have family at the rallies who tell the truth about what is said on stage, and Suthep has hardly ever mentioned the word 'final'..... It is only the media that has cashed in on that time after time and all the media fed suckers suck it up and play with it.

The country is in a dire position and most people think the most important thing to come out of the calamity is the fact they can take the p''''ss out of such a meaningless aspect.

This is serious, people are dying and the best thing people can come out with is final this and final that..... well this IS the final push now, and if you can't see that, then can I suggest you all go and hang out in the comedy thread because this is not where humour is appreciated.

Maybe NKK engaged his critical thinking in regards to the final solution ideal being peddled by the PDRC and see them for what they really are. Nothing more than hoods and a mob unprepared to take the fate of the country to the polls and elections.

All you have is a perspective managed by a certain media bias and a lot of drama queens strutting about with no answers but plenty of ridiculous claims, claims which as a solution hardly anyone agrees with, including the military or the people and certainly not the vast majority of the rest of the world ( who care ).

This country is a joke and has been regarding many things for a long long time, the world is laughing at the latest poorly led excuse for the usual coup instead of elections. Most of all Suthep is a joke of the highest magnitude, he actually thinks by not engaging with anyone elses point of view it will change or help anything ? LOL most certainly has made many claims of the final this or that and unfortunately its not only in print but also quote and on video record... a dozen different times.

Which makes you basically a liar here and or a wishful thinker or that something as petty as a colour makes anyone any different in their morals than anyone else here.. It's an ingrained and endemic social problem built up over many decades and perpetuated by the likes of Suthep and those that back him.

Here is exactly where humour is appreciated, it dosnt do to be too serious all the time, especially some of the claims or things said, absolutely laughable. Its not like Thailand takes things seriously enough for parties to actually pull together and sit down unselfishly for the good of the country before it all erupts... yet again. instead its always being about me me me.

Spoilt brat mentality is what Suthep works on ... me me me/ you you you...better than them ... deserve to rule... etc etc... all rubbish of course, but its the Thai way... why do something properly when you might lose if you can scam it instead ? its not like the educated are THAT educated to think for themselves, parrot fashion is how they learn and how they live here...

Should Suthep get his way it will only divide the country further and lead to much more violence. It wont work and in a short time people will be asking why just like before ..... again.. and again etc etc.

The real Joke is that Thailand puts up with groups like this and the coups that keep things here in perpetual instability but still some think the answer is yet another coup or non elected appointment because thats what they want to hear..... complete imbeciles.

You really think that Suthep has lost this?

Man, you are seriously missing everything going on, talk about 'wishful thinking'. That is the only thing that keeps you believing the 'final battle' crap is still ongoing.... You spout off like you are an expert on everything Thai, while missing the most basic fundamentals that totally undermine your desire to think Suthep failed.

Let me tell you a thing or two about what is happening here.

Suthep (and no Thai worth his salt) is in any way, shape or form going to be prepared to walk away with his tail between his legs and accept probably the biggest 'face loss' in Thai history.

He has the numbers behind him, he has the influence behind him, he has the backers and he has the support at his fingertips.

What's more, the majority in the senate have already stated that they are only delaying the appointment of an interim PM and cabinet well in line with Suthep (and the people's) demands, yet they are asking them to hang on a week until they have absolutely discussed matters with ALL involved and given the government the opportunity to vacate their positions or basically be replaced over their heads.

You seriously trying to tell me that Suthep is throwing in the towel on the verge of getting everything he wants?.... That is what you call wishful thinking.

Trust me... It's all been organised. The final blows will come after May 27th.

The PDRC, EC, military and Senate along with the courts have already set out the decapitation. The Thaksin elected bunch in the senate have added a nice little bonus by meeting with Thaksin last week.... That will be them added to the outgoing list. A 'cherry on the top'.

Suthep needs a reason to give one last show of force, and gather support from government officials before taking the protesters off the street and to safety before the axe falls.

That leaves the reds on the street and a trotting they will go into the streets of Bangkok, then enter the army center stage and push them back to their slums licking their wounds.

There will be reforms and there will be a free and fair election 'after' the reforms and more than likely a huge clearout of anyone connected to Thaksin including all the UDD and the CAPO idiots.... Why the hell do you thing Surapong, Jatts, Natts et al are getting so desperate and pulling out all the stops to stop it? It is because those are the ones who will probably end up locked up in a deep dungeon and lucky to ever be free again.

They know things will be revealed in time and they are running scared. The lot of them will likely attempt to flee Thailand within the next 30 days.

THAT is what is in store for Thailand.

It is YOU that is wishful thinking... Or extremely naive.

[NongKhaiKid]

Not another final push only to be countered by a civil war threat from Jatuporn.

When will they ever learn and we know the answer.

What happened to you?

You used to be a PDRC supporter and agreed with their cause, and now you subscribe to the red view of lambasting the cause according to Khaosod.

Some of us have family at the rallies who tell the truth about what is said on stage, and Suthep has hardly ever mentioned the word 'final'..... It is only the media that has cashed in on that time after time and all the media fed suckers suck it up and play with it.

The country is in a dire position and most people think the most important thing to come out of the calamity is the fact they can take the p''''ss out of such a meaningless aspect.

This is serious, people are dying and the best thing people can come out with is final this and final that..... well this IS the final push now, and if you can't see that, then can I suggest you all go and hang out in the comedy thread because this is not where humour is appreciated.

Thank You for getting it all wrong and putting me in the PDRC camp when I see myself as a neutral who reserves the right to criticise as I see fit.

I have lived here for a long time and like other foreigners don't get actively involved in politics for fear of deportation.

[englishoak]

Not another final push only to be countered by a civil war threat from Jatuporn.

When will they ever learn and we know the answer.

What happened to you?

You used to be a PDRC supporter and agreed with their cause, and now you subscribe to the red view of lambasting the cause according to Khaosod.

Some of us have family at the rallies who tell the truth about what is said on stage, and Suthep has hardly ever mentioned the word 'final'..... It is only the media that has cashed in on that time after time and all the media fed suckers suck it up and play with it.

The country is in a dire position and most people think the most important thing to come out of the calamity is the fact they can take the p''''ss out of such a meaningless aspect.

This is serious, people are dying and the best thing people can come out with is final this and final that..... well this IS the final push now, and if you can't see that, then can I suggest you all go and hang out in the comedy thread because this is not where humour is appreciated.

Maybe NKK engaged his critical thinking in regards to the final solution ideal being peddled by the PDRC and see them for what they really are. Nothing more than hoods and a mob unprepared to take the fate of the country to the polls and elections.

All you have is a perspective managed by a certain media bias and a lot of drama queens strutting about with no answers but plenty of ridiculous claims, claims which as a solution hardly anyone agrees with, including the military or the people and certainly not the vast majority of the rest of the world ( who care ).

This country is a joke and has been regarding many things for a long long time, the world is laughing at the latest poorly led excuse for the usual coup instead of elections. Most of all Suthep is a joke of the highest magnitude, he actually thinks by not engaging with anyone elses point of view it will change or help anything ? LOL most certainly has made many claims of the final this or that and unfortunately its not only in print but also quote and on video record... a dozen different times.

Which makes you basically a liar here and or a wishful thinker or that something as petty as a colour makes anyone any different in their morals than anyone else here.. It's an ingrained and endemic social problem built up over many decades and perpetuated by the likes of Suthep and those that back him.

Here is exactly where humour is appreciated, it dosnt do to be too serious all the time, especially some of the claims or things said, absolutely laughable. Its not like Thailand takes things seriously enough for parties to actually pull together and sit down unselfishly for the good of the country before it all erupts... yet again. instead its always being about me me me.

Spoilt brat mentality is what Suthep works on ... me me me/ you you you...better than them ... deserve to rule... etc etc... all rubbish of course, but its the Thai way... why do something properly when you might lose if you can scam it instead ? its not like the educated are THAT educated to think for themselves, parrot fashion is how they learn and how they live here...

Should Suthep get his way it will only divide the country further and lead to much more violence. It wont work and in a short time people will be asking why just like before ..... again.. and again etc etc.

The real Joke is that Thailand puts up with groups like this and the coups that keep things here in perpetual instability but still some think the answer is yet another coup or non elected appointment because thats what they want to hear..... complete imbeciles.

You really think that Suthep has lost this?

Man, you are seriously missing everything going on, talk about 'wishful thinking'. That is the only thing that keeps you believing the 'final battle' crap is still ongoing.... You spout off like you are an expert on everything Thai, while missing the most basic fundamentals that totally undermine your desire to think Suthep failed.

Let me tell you a thing or two about what is happening here.

Suthep (and no Thai worth his salt) is in any way, shape or form going to be prepared to walk away with his tail between his legs and accept probably the biggest 'face loss' in Thai history.

He has the numbers behind him, he has the influence behind him, he has the backers and he has the support at his fingertips.

What's more, the majority in the senate have already stated that they are only delaying the appointment of an interim PM and cabinet well in line with Suthep (and the people's) demands, yet they are asking them to hang on a week until they have absolutely discussed matters with ALL involved and given the government the opportunity to vacate their positions or basically be replaced over their heads.

You seriously trying to tell me that Suthep is throwing in the towel on the verge of getting everything he wants?.... That is what you call wishful thinking.

Trust me... It's all been organised. The final blows will come after May 27th.

The PDRC, EC, military and Senate along with the courts have already set out the decapitation. The Thaksin elected bunch in the senate have added a nice little bonus by meeting with Thaksin last week.... That will be them added to the outgoing list. A 'cherry on the top'.

Suthep needs a reason to give one last show of force, and gather support from government officials before taking the protesters off the street and to safety before the axe falls.

That leaves the reds on the street and a trotting they will go into the streets of Bangkok, then enter the army center stage and push them back to their slums licking their wounds.

There will be reforms and there will be a free and fair election 'after' the reforms and more than likely a huge clearout of anyone connected to Thaksin including all the UDD and the CAPO idiots.... Why the hell do you thing Surapong, Jatts, Natts et al are getting so desperate and pulling out all the stops to stop it? It is because those are the ones who will probably end up locked up in a deep dungeon and lucky to ever be free again.

They know things will be revealed in time and they are running scared. The lot of them will likely attempt to flee Thailand within the next 30 days.

THAT is what is in store for Thailand.

It is YOU that is wishful thinking... Or extremely naive.

Suthep lost it the moment he outstayed his welcome in bkk months ago, he cant win only increase division and unrest here.

Unfortunately none of your wishes should they come true will make anything better. Just worse, Suthep is like a broken record and so are you and your pathetic ranting about red this and red that... grow up man and understand Thais are Thai and colour bias dosnt mean squat but to the narrow minded racist or elitist talking goons. Its stupid to even think it and worse to actually believe it... Suthep is bad enough talking it but ive no doubt he dosnt actually believe it... as long as the idiots do though he'll play to his crowd.

This idea of winning is a fallacy, there is no winning unless all sides work towards a solution and Suthep has many times made his refusal to do that quite plain, and that is why he has already lost in the long run.

They wont be able to eradicate the people from setting up yet another party, they cant and wont put everyone in jail, they wont silence the majority for long and it wont end anything. Certainly expect more bloodshed if there is an unelected takeover.

Problem with you is that you are polarised in your long term thinking and just like the PDRC believe only they have the right answer. News for you son, the thai election process will just return the same old model in a new party just like 2011 when given the opportunity and neither will the majority of the population forget or vote for a group that has taken the steps it has. Should have learned that in the run up to 2011 but naaa far too stupid and lazy to actually engage in changing hearts and minds ... just stamping the feet is easier... it wont work... it didnt in 06 and it wont now.

The only move forwards would be to include ALL sides but Suthep of course is too out much an old dog to learn new tricks and his cronies are as usual only looking at the short term. In the long run Thailand will likely repeat its unrest again and again.

Nothing at all a coup or a takeover will do here but make things worse, they havnt learned from 06 and they wont learn this time no doubt.

Its pretty clear you have no clue exactly how itll pan out any more than the rest of us, you just waffle on with your hate mails directed at a large proportion of the population though, just like youve been posting the same hate spewing rubbish under many names for months. Hows that big chip you got there working out for you ?

Youd better get used to getting along with those reds you keep hating on, they will sooner or later likely return a majority party again, something that I do not feel confident the dems will ever do. Thailand is a mix of opinions and sides youd better get used to the fact you cant just round up those you disagree with and boot them all out every time it suits you.

Oh and apart from all this going on as the side show the main event hasnt even come to pass yet...this is all politics has been about the past few years, positioning and will be until the inevitable happens, and you really dont have a clue what is going to happen at that point ... no one does

The world has moved on whilst Thailand is attempting to return to the past. It can't no matter how much it might wish to and one day Thailand will learn the days of living in a small bubble are long gone, knowing Thailand it wont learn the easy way only probably when its much too late for many.

Now excuse me ive an appointment later with a red and a yellow for dinner and thankfully they are a lot less blinkered, inclusive and forward thinking than you and your PDRC garden gnomes.

[Fat Haggis]

So basically civil war has pretty much described a judicial and military coup in the process which is what the pro government side have been saying all along, he also seems to know a considerable amount of detail again all of which has been predicted by the pro government people too.

[bangers101]

Suthep is a firebrand, which is clear from his rhetoric and lack of compromise.

He's also a front man for other people and their interests and agendas.

Lets assume Suthep is successful, what do you suppose happens as this newly installed yellow shirt government starts to re-draw Thailand's electoral map? No prices for guessing in who's favour.

Lets assume there are free and fair elections some time this year and the Reds are triumphantly re-elected and re-endorced as the 'voice of the people'. What then happens to the powerful cadre that has supported Suthep, including the courts, the military, the money brokers, the media etc etc etc?

Either way its looks like rough weather ahead for democracy, equality, freedom and the economy.

Now might be a good time to think about pastures anew...

[aussieinthailand]

His, Supthep, background has little to do with it??? You are kidding me..

I would suggest the recent crap happening in Phuket in National Parks land and the requested relocation by the park administrator was probably caused by the same 11 that Suthep gave land to in 1995..

Which by the way led to a dissolution of parliament..

Forgot who's post it was you answered ??? just picked out a little bit to lock on to ????

why not answer the poster?? all the rest of the post was true so that was difficult to answer anyway. you are a hit and run merchant.

I believe it was put this way-----that Suthep took on the task no others had the balls to do, try to kick out a regime of nuts who seemingly governing for themselves rather than Thailand.

Suthep is no saint-no mistaking that BUT the point was WHY he did it-----in this case his background had nothing to do with the getting rid of Thaksin, Shinawatta.

#26 was the one you should have answered properly.--Aussie dear. (oz venison)

ginjag #26, try a Google search both for Thaksin and Suthep

and just see what comes up, Thaksin comes out looking a hell of a lot better than Suthep with several positive's for the Thai economy in there for Thaksin. but as for Suthep,, hahahahaaha...

and that's why in an election he is unbeatable and the other party's know it and that's why they don't want elections.

I just did what you said. Allow me to summarize the search result.

Crimes and charges against Thaksin. Ratchadapisek land case. Thaksin sentenced to 2 years imprisonment. He tried bribing the judges and when that didn't work fled the country. He still has to answer to charges of forcing the govt bank to give his mates in the Burmese junta 4 billion baht to buy ipstar products from his families company. Rubber tree sapling case with his old mate Newin. Extrajudicial slaughter of thousands of innocent men, women and children in his war on drugs in a fit of rage after catching somebody close to him using drugs. Lottery scandal. Funding insurrection and terrorism during the Bkk seige and subsequent burning. Selling Shin corp amongst a flurry of fraudulent transactions in an attempt to dodge tax on the sale. Tak Bai and Krue Se massacres. The list goes on and on and on....

Suthep on the other hand. He seemed to have possibly had some peripheral involvement in a Phuket land distribution scandal some decades ago, although nobody has claimed that he had either direct involvment or profited personally from any actions he took.

Your statement that after reading this summary that Thaksin "comes out looking a hell of a lot better than Suthep" is absolute bunkum.

Suthep, "He seemed to possibly had some Peripheral involvement" you are the funny one aren't you, Oh what's that? your serious???

And I thought you were taking the p*ss, silly me. by the way did you read post #60 yet? quite good.

[aussieinthailand]

His, Supthep, background has little to do with it??? You are kidding me..

I would suggest the recent crap happening in Phuket in National Parks land and the requested relocation by the park administrator was probably caused by the same 11 that Suthep gave land to in 1995..

Which by the way led to a dissolution of parliament..

Forgot who's post it was you answered ??? just picked out a little bit to lock on to ????

why not answer the poster?? all the rest of the post was true so that was difficult to answer anyway. you are a hit and run merchant.

I believe it was put this way-----that Suthep took on the task no others had the balls to do, try to kick out a regime of nuts who seemingly governing for themselves rather than Thailand.

Suthep is no saint-no mistaking that BUT the point was WHY he did it-----in this case his background had nothing to do with the getting rid of Thaksin, Shinawatta.

#26 was the one you should have answered properly.--Aussie dear. (oz venison)

ginjag #26, try a Google search both for Thaksin and Suthep

and just see what comes up, Thaksin comes out looking a hell of a lot better than Suthep with several positive's for the Thai economy in there for Thaksin. but as for Suthep,, hahahahaaha...

and that's why in an election he is unbeatable and the other party's know it and that's why they don't want elections.

I just did what you said. Allow me to summarize the search result.

Crimes and charges against Thaksin. Ratchadapisek land case. Thaksin sentenced to 2 years imprisonment. He tried bribing the judges and when that didn't work fled the country. He still has to answer to charges of forcing the govt bank to give his mates in the Burmese junta 4 billion baht to buy ipstar products from his families company. Rubber tree sapling case with his old mate Newin. Extrajudicial slaughter of thousands of innocent men, women and children in his war on drugs in a fit of rage after catching somebody close to him using drugs. Lottery scandal. Funding insurrection and terrorism during the Bkk seige and subsequent burning. Selling Shin corp amongst a flurry of fraudulent transactions in an attempt to dodge tax on the sale. Tak Bai and Krue Se massacres. The list goes on and on and on....

Suthep on the other hand. He seemed to have possibly had some peripheral involvement in a Phuket land distribution scandal some decades ago, although nobody has claimed that he had either direct involvment or profited personally from any actions he took.

Your statement that after reading this summary that Thaksin "comes out looking a hell of a lot better than Suthep" is absolute bunkum.

"Extrajudicial slaughter of thousands of innocent men women and children in his war on drugs" you have proof of this?

yes there were some extreme things done to the GUILTY that I don't agree with.

It's common knowledge he had an extreme view on drug dealers, and how they should be dealt with, be it right or wrong, I don't agree with his method but I do agree with the result it had on the drug trade and it impact on victims (addicts) family's that could not buy their hit so easily, and after he was removed from office you can buy drugs on any corner store, and are you happy with this??? that being said here's what I've found on my google search, allow me to summarize the search result.

2001 he became PM and the first in the country to serve a full term, Thaksin introduced a rang of policies to alleviate poverty, which was reduced by half in four years, He launched the country's first universal healthcare program, the 30 baht scheme, also a massive infrastructure program, on roads, public transport and Swapy air port, he took the public sector debt rom 57% of GDP in 2001 down to 41% in 2006.

So now you have a far more clear and factual base of information to express you opinions with.

[jaidam]

Forgot who's post it was you answered ??? just picked out a little bit to lock on to ????

why not answer the poster?? all the rest of the post was true so that was difficult to answer anyway. you are a hit and run merchant.

I believe it was put this way-----that Suthep took on the task no others had the balls to do, try to kick out a regime of nuts who seemingly governing for themselves rather than Thailand.

Suthep is no saint-no mistaking that BUT the point was WHY he did it-----in this case his background had nothing to do with the getting rid of Thaksin, Shinawatta.

#26 was the one you should have answered properly.--Aussie dear. (oz venison)

ginjag #26, try a Google search both for Thaksin and Suthep

and just see what comes up, Thaksin comes out looking a hell of a lot better than Suthep with several positive's for the Thai economy in there for Thaksin. but as for Suthep,, hahahahaaha...

and that's why in an election he is unbeatable and the other party's know it and that's why they don't want elections.

I just did what you said. Allow me to summarize the search result.

Crimes and charges against Thaksin. Ratchadapisek land case. Thaksin sentenced to 2 years imprisonment. He tried bribing the judges and when that didn't work fled the country. He still has to answer to charges of forcing the govt bank to give his mates in the Burmese junta 4 billion baht to buy ipstar products from his families company. Rubber tree sapling case with his old mate Newin. Extrajudicial slaughter of thousands of innocent men, women and children in his war on drugs in a fit of rage after catching somebody close to him using drugs. Lottery scandal. Funding insurrection and terrorism during the Bkk seige and subsequent burning. Selling Shin corp amongst a flurry of fraudulent transactions in an attempt to dodge tax on the sale. Tak Bai and Krue Se massacres. The list goes on and on and on....

Suthep on the other hand. He seemed to have possibly had some peripheral involvement in a Phuket land distribution scandal some decades ago, although nobody has claimed that he had either direct involvment or profited personally from any actions he took.

Your statement that after reading this summary that Thaksin "comes out looking a hell of a lot better than Suthep" is absolute bunkum.

"Extrajudicial slaughter of thousands of innocent men women and children in his war on drugs" you have proof of this?

yes there were some extreme things done to the GUILTY that I don't agree with.

It's common knowledge he had an extreme view on drug dealers, and how they should be dealt with, be it right or wrong, I don't agree with his method but I do agree with the result it had on the drug trade and it impact on victims (addicts) family's that could not buy their hit so easily, and after he was removed from office you can buy drugs on any corner store, and are you happy with this??? that being said here's what I've found on my google search, allow me to summarize the search result.

2001 he became PM and the first in the country to serve a full term, Thaksin introduced a rang of policies to alleviate poverty, which was reduced by half in four years, He launched the country's first universal healthcare program, the 30 baht scheme, also a massive infrastructure program, on roads, public transport and Swapy air port, he took the public sector debt rom 57% of GDP in 2001 down to 41% in 2006.

So now you have a far more clear and factual base of information to express you opinions with.

They were ALL innocent. None of the murdered thousands had the chance to face trial. Subsequent investigations revealed that more than half of the slaughtered had no involvement at all with drugs. You must really love Thaksin if you believe they were "guilty" just because he had them shot dead.

That he rode the coat-tails of a worldwide economic boom, doesn't mean he can murder thousands of innocents, does it?

[Mentors]

Is Suthep paying some copyright money to the band Europe for using too often 'the final countdown'? Oh not, not using the song...so far...

Edited May 18, 2014 by Mentors

[aussieinthailand]

Not having a chance to have a trial dose NOT MAKE THEM ALL INOCENT, It means that they were not given the chance to defend themselves which I believe to be wrong and should never have happened, and yes before you say I do understand the concept of innocent until proven guilty,

if you are a drug dealer that profits from the misery and death of others and their family's then you have no rights, just my opinion.

What I was trying to point out to a TV member who only see's yellow, is that Thaksin did do a hell of a lot for the poor of the country and the economy which is quite the opposite of Suthep isn't it, when Suthep was supposed to give land titles to poor farmers but instead giving titles to his rich mates, just because he has the protection of some very high up people dose not make him innocent.

[ianf]

Not having a chance to have a trial dose NOT MAKE THEM ALL INOCENT, It means that they were not given the chance to defend themselves which I believe to be wrong and should never have happened, and yes before you say I do understand the concept of innocent until proven guilty,

if you are a drug dealer that profits from the misery and death of others and their family's then you have no rights, just my opinion.

What I was trying to point out to a TV member who only see's yellow, is that Thaksin did do a hell of a lot for the poor of the country and the economy which is quite the opposite of Suthep isn't it, when Suthep was supposed to give land titles to poor farmers but instead giving titles to his rich mates, just because he has the protection of some very high up people dose not make him innocent.

A relative of my ex-wife was shot and killed during the so-called drugs war. He had nothing to do with drugs. But he had a lot to do with opposing Thaksin politically in the san Khampaeng area - Thaksin's home base. A friend who runs an organisation to help drug addicts tells me of people who were drop-in center managers (not drug takers/sellers) who were shot and killed. The drugs war was an opportunity for Thaksin and his police friends to get rid of people they didn't like and called them dealers to justify their actions. This fits in totally with Thaksin's modus operandi.