Acting Thai PM Niwattumrong won't resign

[webfact]

Niwattumrong won’t resign



BANGKOK: -- Acting Prime Minister Niwattumrong Boonsongpaisan is ready to cooperate with the Senate to resolve the political impasse but will not resign, reasoning he may violate the laws.

Senator Wanchai Sornsirin disclosed after the acting prime minister met the second deputy Senate speaker Peerasal Porjit to resolve the political impasse Monday.

The second deputy Senate speaker represented the acting Senate speaker Surachai Liangboonlertchai who was sick to meet the acting prime minister.

Selected senator Wanchai disclosed that Niwattumrong refused to step down reasoning that he might violate the laws in doing so, but would stay on in power as a caretaker government until a new government is established.

He also said the caretaker government insisted it was ready to cooperate with the Senate in everything within the framework of laws.

He said the acting Senate speaker would have an informal meeting with senators after hearing the government’s stance and has prepared contingent plans to resolve the issue.

A resolution would be reached at the meeting and would make known to the public, he said.

He also indicated of a prime minister under Article 7 or an interim government if situation warrants.

Sources said during the meeting with the acting premier and his team, three proposals reached at informal meetings with all sectors of the societies were raised, one is the call for the caretaker cabinet with limited power to resign to pave the way for a government with full power to run the country.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/niwattumrong-wont-resign/


-- Thai PBS 2014-05-19

[h90]

glued to the chair....

[Tatsujin]

So NOW they're going to follow "the law" lol

Isn't he Acting Caretaker PM tho? Or doesn't that sound quite so legal or legitimate in their press releases/election campaign?

Edited May 19, 2014 by Tatsujin

[webfact]

Niwattumrong insists he has full authority as caretaker PM

BANGKOK: -- Acting caretaker Prime Minister Niwattumrong Boonsongpaisan insisted Monday that he has full authority as a caretaker prime minister.

Niwattumrong issued a statement after he held a meeting with a group of senators to discuss solutions for ending the political impasse.

Niwattumrong said he and the caretaker Cabinet are required to stay on by Article 181 and the May 7 Constitutional Court ruling until the next Cabinet takes office.

The prime minister said the charter does not allow the caretaker prime minister to resign either.


-- The Nation 2014-05-19

[Robby nz]

So his only worry is for himself in that he may be held responsible for violating the law.

No concern at all for the country

It could be that he may also violate the law if he stays as it has been suggested he has no mandate to sign a royal decree to hold an election..

[Asiantravel]

glued to the chair....

.

Yes, thank goodness.

“ pave the way for a government with full power to run the country.”

Why does any government that hasnt revealed a SINGLE THING about its policies and intentions need full power if an election is held promptly as most people want?

[chotthee]

He don't need to resin.

Empowered by the real Thai people, Suthep have already sack him.

[jennywren]

The Speaker ducked out here giving him an opportunity basically to ignore the meeting on the basis he wasn't there.

Could work against Suthep as well with that as both parties went out of their way to say it was informal and would be discussed in another informal meeting.

For those who can read between lines, this was a very bad day for PDRC, couple with the army seemingly preparing for clashes with them PDRC. This again when you read between the lines was a faction of the army distancing them selves from any Coup attempt publically.

[millwall_fan]

"Sources said during the meeting with the acting premier and his team, three proposals reached at informal meetings with all sectors of the societies were raised, one is the call for the caretaker cabinet with limited power to resign to pave the way for a government with full power to run the country."

The caretaker government will 'resign' or rather will have accomplished its task when an election is held. The only thing that should be occupying the senate's mind at the moment is ensuring that an election is held without further delay and prevarication and that the army must guarantee the safety of candidates and security of the electoral apparatus.

Only then will a 'government with full power to run the country' have legitimacy.

Edited May 19, 2014 by millwall_fan

[bigbamboo]

At least give the poor bastard a chance to get his feet under the trough. Thaksin only made him PM a couple of weeks ago.

[webfact]

Acting caretaker PM won't consider resignation: Senator Wanchai
By Digital Content



BANGKOK, May 19 -- Acting caretaker Prime Minister Niwatthamrong Boonsongpaisan asserted today that he will not resign but is ready to cooperate with the senators to find the way out of the political crisis under the Constitution, according to appointed Senator Wanchai Sornsiri.

Mr Wanchai, a member of the acting Senate speaker's coordinating committee, said the caretaker government led by Mr Niwatthamrong and caretaker Justice Minister Chaikasem Nitisiri met the Senate led by Uttaradit Senator Peerasak Porchit, the second Senate Deputy Speaker-elect and appointed-Senator Dejudom Krairit on options to led the country out of political deadlock.

Surachai Liengboonlertchai, Senate speaker-elect, was to meet Mr Niwatthamrong but he felt sick this morning.

Mr Wanchai said that Mr Niwatthamrong has rejected resignation in concern that it could be illegal but that he will continue to work with the caretaker government.

Mr Niwatthamrong asserted that the caretaker government is ready to cooperate with the Senate in an attempt to find a mutually acceptable solution, but the move must be carried out under the Constitution, according to Senator Wanchai.

The Senate continues to seek a solution under the Constitution and expects to have an answer for the public within this week. (MCOT online news)


-- TNA 2014-05-19

[fab4]

So NOW they're going to follow "the law" lol

Isn't he Acting Caretaker PM tho? Or doesn't that sound quite so legal or legitimate in their press releases/election campaign?

Yet you're perfectly happy with the supposed legality of the group of senators asking him to resign? The usual double standards I see.

[fab4]

Surachai Liengboonlertchai, Senate speaker-elect, was to meet Mr Niwatthamrong but he felt sick this morning.

Conscience is a strange thing - it can affect the body in so many ways

[h90]

glued to the chair....

.

Yes, thank goodness.

“ pave the way for a government with full power to run the country.”

Why does any government that hasnt revealed a SINGLE THING about its policies and intentions need full power if an election is held promptly as most people want?

If you give me your address I send you a satellite dish.....

It is told and repeated a 1.000.000 times what the policies and intentions are.

The ultra short version for you:

up to who propose the government it should be 1-14 month in office.

The short version should only make fair and free elections possible...by allowing everyone campaign where they want (ergo the Democrats can also campaign in red villages).

Efficiently ban vote buying and similar cheating.

The max. version with 12-14 month:

make harsh laws against corruption

review the oil and gas contracts, if they are fair or way underpaid in exchange for corruption money

improve and protect the separation of power

get rid of the Shinawatra system in politics

consult with the public on every topic.

etc etc etc

Endless discussed.....

[Tatsujin]

So NOW they're going to follow "the law" lol

Isn't he Acting Caretaker PM tho? Or doesn't that sound quite so legal or legitimate in their press releases/election campaign?

Yet you're perfectly happy with the supposed legality of the group of senators asking him to resign? The usual double standards I see.

Aside from the Speaker, how is the Senate "not legal"?

[h90]

So NOW they're going to follow "the law" lol

Isn't he Acting Caretaker PM tho? Or doesn't that sound quite so legal or legitimate in their press releases/election campaign?

Yet you're perfectly happy with the supposed legality of the group of senators asking him to resign? The usual double standards I see.

what legality is in doubt of the group of senators?

[Robby nz]

Acting caretaker Prime Minister Niwatthamrong Boonsongpaisan asserted today that he will not resign but is ready to cooperate with the senators to find the way out of the political crisis under the Constitution, according to appointed Senator Wanchai Sornsiri.

Two conflicting statements in the first paragraph.

He will not resign but will co-operate.

The co-operation that has been requested is for him to resign.

[Scamper]

Insisting that you have " full authority as a caretaker prime minister " sounds almost a contradiction in terms. And it's getting more and more thin a claim as indeed every legislative lever has slipped out of this " administration's " fingers. Exactly how does one claim full authority when -

1. He was elected through means not only unprecedented but unconstitutional.

2. The Yingluck administration dissolved parliament on December 9. Their public mandate came to a constitutional stop on March 5 once 30 days had expired since the election without a parliamentary sitting, and April 4 after a prime minister wasn't nominated through that parliament. The Yingluck administration doesn't exist. There is no public mandate for another.

3. He has no parliament, and therefore no legislative power to enact any policy or obtain public funds for them whatsoever.

On the other hand, what he can do constitutionally without any question or controversy whatsoever -

1. Is sit at a table with a nice floral arrangement on it.

All political arguments will dissolve in the light of one issue and one issue alone - whether a country - any country - can fiscally function for an indefinite period of time without a fully functioning government that has the power of the purse. The more and more remote an election becomes, the more likely the Senate will take the next step.

[Asiantravel]

glued to the chair....

.

Yes, thank goodness.

“ pave the way for a government with full power to run the country.”

Why does any government that hasnt revealed a SINGLE THING about its policies and intentions need full power if an election is held promptly as most people want?

If you give me your address I send you a satellite dish.....

It is told and repeated a 1.000.000 times what the policies and intentions are.

The ultra short version for you:

up to who propose the government it should be 1-14 month in office.

The short version should only make fair and free elections possible...by allowing everyone campaign where they want (ergo the Democrats can also campaign in red villages).

Efficiently ban vote buying and similar cheating.

The max. version with 12-14 month:

make harsh laws against corruption

review the oil and gas contracts, if they are fair or way underpaid in exchange for corruption money

improve and protect the separation of power

get rid of the Shinawatra system in politics

consult with the public on every topic.

etc etc etc

Endless discussed.....

If that is their manifesto good …………….we can have an ELECTION !!!

[fab4]

So NOW they're going to follow "the law" lol

Isn't he Acting Caretaker PM tho? Or doesn't that sound quite so legal or legitimate in their press releases/election campaign?

Yet you're perfectly happy with the supposed legality of the group of senators asking him to resign? The usual double standards I see.

Aside from the Speaker, how is the Senate "not legal"?

Because it's not the Senate, it's less than half a senate, just surachai, his appointed gang of 40 mates and a few hangers on. Not only that but the Senate (150 members) is not in session.

[Saraphee]

Only then will a 'government with full power to run the country' have legitimacy.

Not even then - unless & until the alleged corruption, bribery &/or intimidation apparatus of any of the myriad political parties are seen to have been swept away and then firmly controlled there cannot be a free & fair election. Confusing as this may seem to many voters.

Edited May 19, 2014 by Saraphee

[Tatsujin]

So NOW they're going to follow "the law" lol

Isn't he Acting Caretaker PM tho? Or doesn't that sound quite so legal or legitimate in their press releases/election campaign?

Yet you're perfectly happy with the supposed legality of the group of senators asking him to resign? The usual double standards I see.

Aside from the Speaker, how is the Senate "not legal"?

Because it's not the Senate, it's less than half a senate, just surachai, his appointed gang of 40 mates and a few hangers on. Not only that but the Senate (150 members) is not in session.

Ah, so they got dissolved at the same time as Parliament did they? They're Acting Caretaker Senators? Right. You're believing too much of your own red shirt propaganda lol

[chainarong]

Can I request a life style audit on the Acting (Quiet appropriate) PM , then he might have to resign.

[mikemac]

Surachai Liengboonlertchai, Senate speaker-elect, was to meet Mr Niwatthamrong but he felt sick this morning.

Conscience is a strange thing - it can affect the body in so many ways

If you had one you would not be posting on TV, Pip.

[fab4]

Ah, so they got dissolved at the same time as Parliament did they? They're Acting Caretaker Senators? Right. You're believing too much of your own red shirt propaganda lol

Look it's simple. The senate had a royally decreed session which was to endorse a new member of the NACC and new specialists for the Administrative Court. That session has ended. There is a group of appointed senators holding informal meetings but making statements on behalf of the whole senate which they cannot do. If you think that's red shirt propaganda you ought to read more.

Acting Senate speaker Surachai Liangboonlertchai chaired an informal discussion on how the Senate could help to find a “way out” of the political impasse this afternoon with a five-point message calling, among others, for parties in the conflict to refrain from inciting public hatred against one another and to refrain from violence.

In the same message, Mr Surachai also urged the media to report on the political situation accurately and honestly and to refrain from disseminating information which may worsen the conflict. He also called on members of the public who may have any recommendations on how to resolve the political stalemate to present them to the office of the Senate secretary-general.

Altogether 86 senators took part in the informal discussion which was not televised live because of an order from the secretary-general of the House of Representatives Mr Suvichak Narkwatcharachai, claiming that the discussion was informal and the senators who joined the discussion would not be entitled to immunity.

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/surachai-heads-informal-discussion-political-impasse/

[winstonc]

Surachai Liengboonlertchai, Senate speaker-elect, was to meet Mr Niwatthamrong but he felt sick this morning.

Conscience is a strange thing - it can affect the body in so many ways

If you had one you would not be posting on TV, Pip.

no i love reading his fairy tale stories because you know there not real...always goes down in the 1st round...must be a record of sorts...

[marinediscoking]

glued to the chair....

.

Yes, thank goodness.

“ pave the way for a government with full power to run the country.”

Why does any government that hasnt revealed a SINGLE THING about its policies and intentions need full power if an election is held promptly as most people want?

If you give me your address I send you a satellite dish.....

It is told and repeated a 1.000.000 times what the policies and intentions are.

The ultra short version for you:

up to who propose the government it should be 1-14 month in office.

The short version should only make fair and free elections possible...by allowing everyone campaign where they want (ergo the Democrats can also campaign in red villages).

Efficiently ban vote buying and similar cheating.

The max. version with 12-14 month:

make harsh laws against corruption

review the oil and gas contracts, if they are fair or way underpaid in exchange for corruption money

improve and protect the separation of power

get rid of the Shinawatra system in politics

consult with the public on every topic.

etc etc etc

Endless discussed.....

I give you kudos for sticking your neck out and actually specifying reforms. However I don't think these "reforms" would be able to be followed to the letter of the law anywhere there are humans on the face of the earth, and especially here in Thailand. Most of these are laws on the books anyway. These are the impossible goals that Sutep uses to stir up his base to keep any elected government out of power.

From my experience the yellows pay people to vote in as many places as the reds, as long as they still can't following them in the voting booth to verify who that person votes for and the ballet remains secrete, the voting rights groups seem to be satisfied.

**Disclaimer---Taksin did not use mind control on me from Dubai for me to type the above comments, I do this of my own free will.***

[Sunderland]

I've said it before and I apologize for repeating myself but Acting Caretaker Prime Minister Niwattumrong Boonsongpaisa needs a much easier name to remember who he is. Even the Thai staff at school can't remember his first name, let alone his surname or acting caretaker title. Perhaps the least famous prime minister in the world at the moment. Can't they give him a catchy nickname or something like PM Rong, PM Sing-song or PM Squid ... something memorable like we had for PM Crab before.

[Kan Win]

Robby nz, on 19 May 2014 - 16:27, said:Robby nz, on 19 May 2014 - 16:27, said:

So his only worry is for himself in that he may be held responsible for violating the law.

No concern at all for the country

It could be that he may also violate the law if he stays as it has been suggested he has no mandate to sign a royal decree to hold an election..

and please show us all why

Quote

it has been suggested

By whom ?

Please explain your post.

Win

Edited May 19, 2014 by Kan Win

[Tatsujin]

Ah, so they got dissolved at the same time as Parliament did they? They're Acting Caretaker Senators? Right. You're believing too much of your own red shirt propaganda lol

Look it's simple. The senate had a royally decreed session which was to endorse a new member of the NACC and new specialists for the Administrative Court. That session has ended. There is a group of appointed senators holding informal meetings but making statements on behalf of the whole senate which they cannot do. If you think that's red shirt propaganda you ought to read more.

Acting Senate speaker Surachai Liangboonlertchai chaired an informal discussion on how the Senate could help to find a way out of the political impasse this afternoon with a five-point message calling, among others, for parties in the conflict to refrain from inciting public hatred against one another and to refrain from violence.

In the same message, Mr Surachai also urged the media to report on the political situation accurately and honestly and to refrain from disseminating information which may worsen the conflict. He also called on members of the public who may have any recommendations on how to resolve the political stalemate to present them to the office of the Senate secretary-general.

Altogether 86 senators took part in the informal discussion which was not televised live because of an order from the secretary-general of the House of Representatives Mr Suvichak Narkwatcharachai, claiming that the discussion was informal and the senators who joined the discussion would not be entitled to immunity.

http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/surachai-heads-informal-discussion-political-impasse/

Ah, I follow your logic now. They are only Senators and can only do their jobs when they are "in session". Gotcha.