northernjohn Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Annnddddd! Bingo - he just broke another law as of this morning. http://thainews.prd.go.th/centerweb/newsen/NewsDetail?NT01_NewsID=WNPOL5705210010003 The POMC has declared that any broadcasting of individuals who are not government officials will be prohibited from giving any political views or opinions on national television, as the center wishes to prevent escalation of protests and crowds becoming riled up after listening to such broadcasts. Therefore, according to the martial law that has recently been invoked, all operators of media, which include print media, television, radio, press, hosts and/or anchors will not be allowed to interview or invite any individual who is not currently in a governmental position to publicly air their political opinions. The NNTB is allowed to report it under that law (government organisation), but he's not supposed to say it. He has the right to get up on stage and say it to the people there. If a reporter reports it, then it is down to the reporter or the medium, so long as Suthep has not broadcast it himself. Prayuth has allowed the protests to continue at their sites. It is a bit different to what is happening at the UDD camp which is actually broadcasting their rally on internet radio. So you jumped the gun on that one matey. [/quote Well said. It never ceases to amaze me these supposedly educated people that can come up with that kind of nonsense. I think the PTP will also be making their demands. Now it is all going to be academic because the Army is involved and with out them the EC and the government can not guarantee a safe election so all sides must listen to the other side. Truth be known I think both sides are glad to have this happen. It will allow them to make concessions and still save face. Be interesting to see if any of the smaller parties change their Allegany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Fortunately he is working for the betterment of Thailand. Hate to think of what would have happened if he had just said it is OK carry on with your corruption and disregard for the people you are supposed to be serving. I agree, his effort should bring about some long needed changes for the betterment of Thailand, so lets hope the next few months / year can instil some good policy that can't be eroded again by the likes of Thaksin's of this world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagler Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 There is only 1 person amongst everyone smiling in that picture. Says a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Should we be worried that Suthep is giving out what looks like a wedding bouquet to the army folk? That smile is another point of concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 The military claimed for months it would not get involved yet another broken promise. I feel sorry for those in a Thailand who strive for a better life only to be denied by factions who refuse to accept a Government that millions of people voted for in democratic elections, sadly this will never change ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Brutus also smiled when he walked with Julius Ceaser Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daoyai Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Should we be worried that Suthep is giving out what looks like a wedding bouquet to the army folk? That smile is another point of concern. I resisted making a similar comment ..but since you broke the ice, it does look like one of those wedding photos so in vogue at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 "accepted by the common people". That is why we have election. This idiot invent words and made plans on a daily basis. Imagine how the country if Suthep has his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini81 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) "accepted by the common people". That is why we have election. This idiot invent words and made plans on a daily basis. Imagine how the country if Suthep has his way. Here you see only bought and coerced elections; hence the anti-gov't protest. Why are posters so daft to notice or deny that? To start such elections, the goal was to stop the graft of PTP, and all the violence, intimidation, incompetence and lack of fulfilled promises that went along with it; before a real election could begin. Starts with getting Thaksin out of the picture buying up money people with no education looking for a handout,from funds acquired only through dishonesty. Why is that reiterated and so many guys on here come in and pretend that isn't what has happened and that isn't the reason for what has come down to the current climate? Edited May 21, 2014 by gemini81 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopops Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 "accepted by the common people". That is why we have election. This idiot invent words and made plans on a daily basis. Imagine how the country if Suthep has his way. Here you see only bought and coerced elections; hence the anti-gov't protest. Why are posters so daft to notice or deny that? Because it's not true. No respectable journalist, organization, foreign government or even opposition politician has ever said that the 2011 election was won by anyone other than the party that received the most votes. If that's not the case, please post a link. Just one will do! A determined search of the 'net will reveal isolated incidents of shenanigans, but this is true anywhere in the world. Whatever else it also has, Thailand has "free and fair" elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Whether right or wrong, the man is hanging in there,balls of steel and a determination second to none.He seems on the verge of getting what he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabruce Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Annnddddd! Bingo - he just broke another law as of this morning. http://thainews.prd.go.th/centerweb/newsen/NewsDetail?NT01_NewsID=WNPOL5705210010003 The POMC has declared that any broadcasting of individuals who are not government officials will be prohibited from giving any political views or opinions on national television, as the center wishes to prevent escalation of protests and crowds becoming riled up after listening to such broadcasts. Therefore, according to the martial law that has recently been invoked, all operators of media, which include print media, television, radio, press, hosts and/or anchors will not be allowed to interview or invite any individual who is not currently in a governmental position to publicly air their political opinions. The NNTB is allowed to report it under that law (government organisation), but he's not supposed to say it. He has the right to get up on stage and say it to the people there. If a reporter reports it, then it is down to the reporter or the medium, so long as Suthep has not broadcast it himself. Prayuth has allowed the protests to continue at their sites. It is a bit different to what is happening at the UDD camp which is actually broadcasting their rally on internet radio. So you jumped the gun on that one matey. no he hasn't gatherings of more than 5 people are banned I think that you are wrong about gatherings of more than 5 people being banned. I didn't see that as one of the announced measures/restrictions. I do agree that they "could" ban gatherings. They also "could" impose a curfew. They however have NOT done so. The general gist of things seems to be to just restrict political violence and propaganda and have people carry on their lives and business without restriction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 There is only 1 person amongst everyone smiling in that picture. Says a lot Yes,it say's ''I win,suck it up'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
empireboy Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 This poor excuse for a man is living proof that some people will follow a complete and utter hypocrite. The military ought to ashamed of themselves for promoting him in the media! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post toryboy1979 Posted May 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2014 At the very beginning of this problem I praised Kuhn Suthep in one of the very few posts I have made. I was sure he would prevail and it looks as though he will. Furthermore his quest to get an independent Prime Minister also looks possible as I read that the rumour mill says that a retired General, who is probably more right than left, is likely to be nominated this week. I sincerely hope that if this is the case he will accept the task of delivering Thailand from the evil that is Thaksin. I just spent that last five days touring around Issan and I was surprised that the majority of people I spoke with - whilst not wanting the Democrats also do not want Thaksin. They feel let down by him and told me that he used them to increase his wealth. So maybe there is hope for Thailand after all. Providing the various reforms are implemented, then whatever the outcome - and yes PTP may win the election, but I do not believe they will have such a large majority - then democracy will have triumphed! All the TV posters who for whatever reason who have called Khun Suthep a wide selection names are I believe going to be bitterly disappointed with the final outcome as I believe the Thai nation has finally awoken and that is due mainly to one man.Khun Suthep. Sir I salute you. Thialand will forever be in your debt. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini81 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) "accepted by the common people". That is why we have election. This idiot invent words and made plans on a daily basis. Imagine how the country if Suthep has his way. Here you see only bought and coerced elections; hence the anti-gov't protest. Why are posters so daft to notice or deny that? Because it's not true. No respectable journalist, organization, foreign government or even opposition politician has ever said that the 2011 election was won by anyone other than the party that received the most votes. If that's not the case, please post a link. Just one will do! A determined search of the 'net will reveal isolated incidents of shenanigans, but this is true anywhere in the world. Whatever else it also has, Thailand has "free and fair" elections. Red villages, bribes, handouts etc. can't be generalized as true and a norm from other countries if you wanna compare; unless to similar banana republics. You're not going to pull up instant google admissions to see that votes were bought then or in other elections, it or see data reports of course; its not in the books any more than the rented mobs paid handouts in 2010, c'mon. What are you thinking? Just get talking to some local rural farmers, namely Isarn, and some basic reasoning and observation will show you what a farce the elections are, and of course they get handouts. Keep them poor and they are really easy to buy too. That is why PTP campaigns heavily there, easy to swindle on the backs of the uneducated and poor. Edited May 21, 2014 by gemini81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Annnddddd! Bingo - he just broke another law as of this morning. http://thainews.prd.go.th/centerweb/newsen/NewsDetail?NT01_NewsID=WNPOL5705210010003 The POMC has declared that any broadcasting of individuals who are not government officials will be prohibited from giving any political views or opinions on national television, as the center wishes to prevent escalation of protests and crowds becoming riled up after listening to such broadcasts. Therefore, according to the martial law that has recently been invoked, all operators of media, which include print media, television, radio, press, hosts and/or anchors will not be allowed to interview or invite any individual who is not currently in a governmental position to publicly air their political opinions. The NNTB is allowed to report it under that law (government organisation), but he's not supposed to say it. He has the right to get up on stage and say it to the people there. If a reporter reports it, then it is down to the reporter or the medium, so long as Suthep has not broadcast it himself. Prayuth has allowed the protests to continue at their sites. It is a bit different to what is happening at the UDD camp which is actually broadcasting their rally on internet radio. So you jumped the gun on that one matey. Same as what Tarit has been warned for. Looking for anything that can be turned, twisted and magnified to claim a lawsuit as a means of intimidation. Thankfully, the military leaders are more sensible and pragmatic. Never see these posters complaining about the views of a convicted criminal fugitive being quoted on Thai or foreign media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Brutus also smiled when he walked with Julius Ceaser Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Were you there too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 The military claimed for months it would not get involved yet another broken promise. I feel sorry for those in a Thailand who strive for a better life only to be denied by factions who refuse to accept a Government that millions of people voted for in democratic elections, sadly this will never change ! You don't see anything wrong with a government lying, cheating, breaking the law, refusing to debate, refusing transparency and accountability, attempting to suppress free speech and criticism, and openly cavorting with and taking instruction from a convicted criminal fugitive? Would you like to list the outstanding achievements of PTP in their 3 years of office? You could use their own 2 years submission to parliament that was eventually made for starters. Not lengthy reading. The people spoke when the final straw, a cheating through of a bill aimed at whitewashing the criminal who own PTP, was attempted. Of the people I know who voted PTP in 2011, 90% now regret it and are bitterly disappointed at being so badly let down, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Brutus also smiled when he walked with Julius Ceaser Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Were you there too? you can't fool Haggis, he's read all the necessary comics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsider Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Did you go for the meeting the kind General organised, Khun Suthep? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gbswales Posted May 21, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2014 The PDRC often claim that votes are bought with populist policies - has it never occurred to them to develop some populist policies. Even UK elections are won in this way which is why the major parties always promise tax cuts - cuts which are great for individuals but less good for the country as a whole. Why is it only the Thaksin family they want to ban from politics as if they are the only corrupt people in Thailand? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Brutus also smiled when he walked with Julius Ceaser Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Were you there too? I was indeed, but that was in another lifetime I've seen many Brutus type characters in my job over the past 10 years, working hand in hand with each other, only to have one stab the other in the back to ready his own cause, to further their careers. The name Prawit Wongsuan is being touted as the senates choice for interim PM and he's another old school member of a certain Military clique which I was reading about yesterday. Interesting times in the days to come for the Thai people for sure Sent from my iPad using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 He should take on the nickname, "Teflon". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) Suthep is disposable and may need to take a powder for the team. I wouldn't be supprised if he disapeared, with the quote under him, 'where is wally'. Such a loss could give great mileage to the current process in galvinising support for Sutheps mob. The General is pushing the elites agenda. He has contempt for the caretaker leader as stated in past reports. Its the civil servants and the military that are in control (Thai Elite). There is no diference between Suthep and Mr T in present form, but that is not what this is now about. Edited May 21, 2014 by Chris Lawrence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Suthep and the PDRC - unlike Jatuporn and the UDD - have not broken Prayuth's parameters. The UDD has brazenly decided to broadcast their rally ( which by the way, numbers less than 1,000 during the day ), after Prayuth took the UDD off the air-waves. Suthep and the PDRC have done nothing of the sort. The political rhetoric continues from all sides. None of that has been suppressed and none of it will be suppressed. It needs to be reiterated that Prayuth brought martial law to bear in order to control the violence. None of the rallies have been deemed unlawful. Movement, though, is prohibited. As a result, you may have noticed that Suthep says not one peep about a national strike, and does not say one peep about a march. That's called compliance. In terms of Suthep's conditions, all of Suthep's four conditions will likely happen anyway - with or without him. Almost certainly a neutral prime minister will be nominated through the Senate. And the Senate will likely take great pains to choose someone who is acceptable to both Pheu Thai and the UDD, but is affiliated with neither, and without question any person connected to Thaksin would be immediately disallowed. So those are three conditions met already, because Thaksin's influence would be gone, someone would be chosen from neither party, but acceptable to both. In terms of the fourth condition - the person must be acceptable to the common people - that's just too inexact to be taken seriously. So Suthep's position is pretty much aligned with current inclinations anyway. He affirms a reform process under an interim prime minister before a general election. That's actually likely to happen. What Suthep needs to realize and be reassured by - is that he doesn't have to actually do anything - because this is the direction the wind is already blowing. He needs to take a step back. He has already taken a step back by not announcing any provocative strikes or marches. But he needs to let the process play out. As it is. noise, noise, noise come elections PTP or their equivalent will win Unless the electoral process is "reformed". Sent from my Nexus 7 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 Democracy gives the common man the illusion that they, in some way, have an affect on the selection and operation of the government. It's just another opiate for the already distracted masses. Give them bread and circuses, and make it mandatory to vote. Lmfao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehard60 Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 It is still not enough for him. He will never stop no matter what the final outcome is. He wants a total dictatorship with him as the supreme commander just like in north korea. When are you people going to arrest this piece of trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 "accepted by the common people". That is why we have election. This idiot invent words and made plans on a daily basis. Imagine how the country if Suthep has his way. Here you see only bought and coerced elections; hence the anti-gov't protest. Why are posters so daft to notice or deny that? Because it's not true. No respectable journalist, organization, foreign government or even opposition politician has ever said that the 2011 election was won by anyone other than the party that received the most votes. If that's not the case, please post a link. Just one will do! A determined search of the 'net will reveal isolated incidents of shenanigans, but this is true anywhere in the world. Whatever else it also has, Thailand has "free and fair" elections. Red villages, bribes, handouts etc. can't be generalized as true and a norm from other countries if you wanna compare; unless to similar banana republics. You're not going to pull up instant google admissions to see that votes were bought then or in other elections, it or see data reports of course; its not in the books any more than the rented mobs paid handouts in 2010, c'mon. What are you thinking? Just get talking to some local rural farmers, namely Isarn, and some basic reasoning and observation will show you what a farce the elections are, and of course they get handouts. Keep them poor and they are really easy to buy too. That is why PTP campaigns heavily there, easy to swindle on the backs of the uneducated and poor. Isnt vote buying as you claimed a yellow or red card offense by the EC? Between you and the EC with the full investigative resources, would I believe you with your basic reasoning and observation? It is a fair election mate. If there are vote buying, it's on both sides. The EC and international observers have not raised any issues and EC have validated all MPs. Give it up with your continuous rethoric on the same subject. That also include populist policies which all parties and government are guilty to win votes and remain in power anywhere in the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunken Posted May 21, 2014 Share Posted May 21, 2014 It is still not enough for him. He will never stop no matter what the final outcome is. He wants a total dictatorship with him as the supreme commander just like in north korea. When are you people going to arrest this piece of trash. Supreme commander? No that's Thaksin's goal. Why do you continue to distort what he has said with this 'mind-reading' rubbish. He wants an interim PM - not himself - and the good riddance of the Shin kleptocracy, reforms (which you have been reminded of before), and then an election. Probably too reasonable for you to grasp. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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