Jatuporn sentenced to 6 month in prison

[webfact]

BANGKOK: -- The Appeals Court on Thursday sentenced United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) leader Jatuporn Phrompan six months in prison and a fine of 50,000 baht after finding him guilty of defaming former premier Abhisit Vejjajiva.

But the prison term was suspended on a two year probation.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/42501/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=42501


-- Thai PBS 2014-05-22

[Civil War]

So basically they freed him.

2 years where he is not allowed to break the law or defame anyone else.... Well, I suppose all it will take is someone else to sue him and that case will pull up his sentence and off he goes.

I guess there are many to choose from, he has defamed just about everyone not aligned with the Shin clan at some point or other.

[Mango Bob]

But the prison term was suspended on a two year probation.

LOL

[Bluespunk]

So basically they freed him.

2 years where he is not allowed to break the law or defame anyone else.... Well, I suppose all it will take is someone else to sue him and that case will pull up his sentence and off he goes.

I guess there are many to chose from, he has defamed just about everyone not aligned with the Shin clan at some point or other.

Isn't he already out on bail for other charges?

[Zolt]

Only in Thailand can you do prison on defamation charges.

[GoodThaiGirl]

how does he manage to stay free these courts are so biased towards the udd

[h90]

not sentenced.....

[Fat Haggis]

There would be a LOT of TVF members behind bars if the powers that be decided to "drop by" and read some of the things said about people here!!!

People in Glass houses shouldn't really be throwing stones

[Bluespunk]

Only in Thailand can you do prison on defamation charges.

Depends really. Lots of countries have criminal defamation statutes that can lead to gaol time.

[rubl]

I'm a bit surprised about the 'suspended, on two years probation', but this case and the previous one for which Jatuporn was handed the same sentencing were probably more than two years apart. The defamation that is, not the court cases and the time it took to study, rule and sentence. This case from 2012 (I think), the previous case from 2009.

2012-09-27

"The Criminal Court Thursday found red-shirt leader Jatuporn Promphan guilty of defaming former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and gave him a suspended six-month jail term."

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/587352-jatuporn-gets-suspended-six-month-term-for-defaming-abhisit/

[Artisi]

But hopefully a lot more to come yet. Just hope the military have the balls to push ahead irrespective of any flak likely to come from a few and round up all the leading trouble makers, those promoting and assisting in violence and get them to a military court on charges of murder, instigating murder, attacks on mainly peaceful protesters etc. The only way to clean up the mess is to completely remove this scum once and for all from all contact with the vunerable easy lead sheep they have been using for years for their dirty work.

And while they are at - an international arrest warrant for the fugitive and convicted criminal Thaksin would be something worth doing ASAP before he has time to find a bolt-hole somewhere like Chad, Niger, Somalia when no extradition treaty exists with Thailand.

[Soutpeel]

Only in Thailand can you do prison on defamation charges.

How about Italy

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/07/04/amanda-knoxs-parents-defamation-charges.html

Venezuela

http://cpj.org/2010/06/venezuelan-columnist-sentenced-to-prison-for-defam.php

http://www.switched.com/2010/02/18/indonesian-teen-sentenced-to-jail-on-facebook-defamation-charges/

Indonesia

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/04/nation/na-craigslist-libel4

At it appears you can get 18 months in jail in the US

http://www.cpj.org/2010/06/peruvian-radio-host-jailed-on-defamation-charges.php

Peru

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/crime/4-jailed-in-abu-dhabi-on-defamation-charges-after-twitter-spat-1.1025758

Abu Dhabi

Shall I continue ?

[Thait Spot]

What we are witnessing is the red shirt leadership being muzzled by bail and probation.

Far more effective than imprisonment

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[thamteak]

Only in Thailand can you do prison on defamation charges.

Where it doesn't matter if it is true or not.

Benny Hill Land.

Welcome.

[Scamper]

The sad thing is that the only ones who end up in prison seem to be those who are not rich enough, or deemed not " important " enough, or who don't have the right connections. So it seems strongly tilted against the poor. Jatuporn is protected in so many ways. He's rich, some apparently consider him important, and he has the right connections. 50,000 baht will mean nothing to him. This bolsters his own self of infallibility, of course, and cranks up the volume of his already burgeoning self-aggrandizement. But as a role model for his fellow classmates way back when, when he obtained his degree in " political science " ? Forget it. No convocation speech invitations there.

[Civil War]

I'm a bit surprised about the 'suspended, on two years probation', but this case and the previous one for which Jatuporn was handed the same sentencing were probably more than two years apart. The defamation that is, not the court cases and the time it took to study, rule and sentence. This case from 2012 (I think), the previous case from 2009.

2012-09-27

"The Criminal Court Thursday found red-shirt leader Jatuporn Promphan guilty of defaming former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and gave him a suspended six-month jail term."

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/587352-jatuporn-gets-suspended-six-month-term-for-defaming-abhisit/

If that is the case, he should be put straight in prison to serve the last suspended sentence.

That would not expire until Sep 27th... So he is in breach of his suspension and must be arrested and imprisoned with immediate effect.

I am sure Abhisit will be reminding the courts of this in very due course.

[Fat Haggis]

But hopefully a lot more to come yet. Just hope the military have the balls to push ahead irrespective of any flak likely to come from a few and round up all the leading trouble makers, those promoting and assisting in violence and get them to a military court on charges of murder, instigating murder, attacks on mainly peaceful protesters etc. The only way to clean up the mess is to completely remove this scum once and for all from all contact with the vunerable easy lead sheep they have been using for years for their dirty work.

And while they are at - an international arrest warrant for the fugitive and convicted criminal Thaksin would be something worth doing ASAP before he has time to find a bolt-hole somewhere like Chad, Niger, Somalia when no extradition treaty exists with Thailand.

Dirt Farmer.. I rest my case!!!

And do you think that the "untouchables" of the PDRC should also be looking at custodial sentences? or do you just wake up in the morning, wash your face with lemon juice, wipe your backside with sandpaper, and swallow some of the said lemon, so that you can't see past the bitterness and contempt that you have for a particular side?

Next time you buy counterfeit goods, or get on your moped or behind the wheel of a car over the limit, or go over the speed limit, just remember that you're also breaking the laws of the land, so get some of the black paint that's normally reserved for the kettle

Have a nice day, and try not to let that hatred eat you up

[pookiki]

As is clearly shown by the recent actions by the Thai Navy against two reporters at Phuket Wan newspaper and reporters at Reuters over their stories that alleged Thai Navy involvement in the trafficking of Rohingya, defamation suits are used to stifle dissent and the views of political opponents. Yes, there are many countries that have such statutes on the books but they are used for the same reason. In Thailand, the use of libel and defamation suits has gotten completely out of hand.

It is my understanding that a person who is charged with defamation or libel must be able to show that his/her remarks were the truth and that the remarks were made in the public interest. Since the murder charges are still pending against Abhisit, we still don't know whether the remarks he made have a basis in truth or not. The allegations made against Abhisit involve abuse of power and are certainly in the public interest. Politicians and public officials in Thailand and many other countries in the world just need thicker skin instead of running off to court all the time. It comes with the turf.

[than]

How many suspend jail term has he got ?

[whybother]

I'm a bit surprised about the 'suspended, on two years probation', but this case and the previous one for which Jatuporn was handed the same sentencing were probably more than two years apart. The defamation that is, not the court cases and the time it took to study, rule and sentence. This case from 2012 (I think), the previous case from 2009.

2012-09-27

"The Criminal Court Thursday found red-shirt leader Jatuporn Promphan guilty of defaming former prime minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and gave him a suspended six-month jail term."

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/587352-jatuporn-gets-suspended-six-month-term-for-defaming-abhisit/

This was the appeals court, so is it the same case?

[whybother]

As is clearly shown by the recent actions by the Thai Navy against two reporters at Phuket Wan newspaper and reporters at Reuters over their stories that alleged Thai Navy involvement in the trafficking of Rohingya, defamation suits are used to stifle dissent and the views of political opponents. Yes, there are many countries that have such statutes on the books but they are used for the same reason. In Thailand, the use of libel and defamation suits has gotten completely out of hand.

It is my understanding that a person who is charged with defamation or libel must be able to show that his/her remarks were the truth and that the remarks were made in the public interest. Since the murder charges are still pending against Abhisit, we still don't know whether the remarks he made have a basis in truth or not. The allegations made against Abhisit involve abuse of power and are certainly in the public interest. Politicians and public officials in Thailand and many other countries in the world just need thicker skin instead of running off to court all the time. It comes with the turf.

The current case against Abhisit isn't about whether he "ordered the army to kill red shirts". So the result of the case wouldn't prove that one way or the other.

If Jatuporn can't prove that Abhisit made any such order, then he would be guilty of defamation.

[Dogmatix]

Only in Thailand can you do prison on defamation charges.

Actually many developing countries still do this too. The US still has criminal defamation laws on the books in some states but fallen into disuse and I think the UK may have not actually repealed them.

Much as I dislike Jatuporn I disagree with all forms of criminal defamation. I would be happy to see in prison on one of the other charges against him but not this. He should have been paid may to pay a lot more than B50k but as damages in a civil suit, not criminal fine.

Repealing the criminal defamation law should be made a key reform because it prevents the media from investigating politicians' corruption.

[thesetat2013]

There would be a LOT of TVF members behind bars if the powers that be decided to "drop by" and read some of the things said about people here!!!

People in Glass houses shouldn't really be throwing stones

Just what makes you think that one of Chalerms dolts or one of the powers that be are not already reading every post? Not a very good assumption.

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[Mango Bob]

The judge may have found it hard to give him jail time when he did defame him but was telling the truth.

[Prbkk]

But hopefully a lot more to come yet. Just hope the military have the balls to push ahead irrespective of any flak likely to come from a few and round up all the leading trouble makers, those promoting and assisting in violence and get them to a military court on charges of murder, instigating murder, attacks on mainly peaceful protesters etc. The only way to clean up the mess is to completely remove this scum once and for all from all contact with the vunerable easy lead sheep they have been using for years for their dirty work.

And while they are at - an international arrest warrant for the fugitive and convicted criminal Thaksin would be something worth doing ASAP before he has time to find a bolt-hole somewhere like Chad, Niger, Somalia when no extradition treaty exists with Thailand.

Certainly it sounds like The Final Solution

[Thaiisnotrequired]

But hopefully a lot more to come yet. Just hope the military have the balls to push ahead irrespective of any flak likely to come from a few and round up all the leading trouble makers, those promoting and assisting in violence and get them to a military court on charges of murder, instigating murder, attacks on mainly peaceful protesters etc. The only way to clean up the mess is to completely remove this scum once and for all from all contact with the vunerable easy lead sheep they have been using for years for their dirty work.

And while they are at - an international arrest warrant for the fugitive and convicted criminal Thaksin would be something worth doing ASAP before he has time to find a bolt-hole somewhere like Chad, Niger, Somalia when no extradition treaty exists with Thailand.

Dirt Farmer.. I rest my case!!!

And do you think that the "untouchables" of the PDRC should also be looking at custodial sentences? or do you just wake up in the morning, wash your face with lemon juice, wipe your backside with sandpaper, and swallow some of the said lemon, so that you can't see past the bitterness and contempt that you have for a particular side?

Next time you buy counterfeit goods, or get on your moped or behind the wheel of a car over the limit, or go over the speed limit, just remember that you're also breaking the laws of the land, so get some of the black paint that's normally reserved for the kettle

Have a nice day, and try not to let that hatred eat you up

What an incredible, accusational post!

You really make accusations that Artisi buys counterfeit goods, drives with too much alcohol content, and speeds?

That/this is libel itself, and you should be hung, drawn and quartered for such.. you wrote is (not slander)... and clearly libel Artisi.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Your contempt is abysmal, and you yourself should be prosecuted, even here in Thailand for such abuse.

It is clear the hatred you spew is apparent in your own rhetoric, and it's more than possible that the accusations you make are also rhetorical, in that perhaps it is you yourself who drunken drives, speeds and buys crappy, cheap products.

I won't even offer cheers to you, never mind 'have a nice day' rubbish.

You have rested your case, and your attitude is very clearly defined in my response. As for the hatred you perceive, maybe try go to stay in a wat for 2 weeks and calm down??? .... or do you need a dose of chloradiazepoxide and some disulfiram before you leave? I can get you the real stuff, at real prices.

[Chris Lawrence]

As is clearly shown by the recent actions by the Thai Navy against two reporters at Phuket Wan newspaper and reporters at Reuters over their stories that alleged Thai Navy involvement in the trafficking of Rohingya, defamation suits are used to stifle dissent and the views of political opponents. Yes, there are many countries that have such statutes on the books but they are used for the same reason. In Thailand, the use of libel and defamation suits has gotten completely out of hand.

It is my understanding that a person who is charged with defamation or libel must be able to show that his/her remarks were the truth and that the remarks were made in the public interest. Since the murder charges are still pending against Abhisit, we still don't know whether the remarks he made have a basis in truth or not. The allegations made against Abhisit involve abuse of power and are certainly in the public interest. Politicians and public officials in Thailand and many other countries in the world just need thicker skin instead of running off to court all the time. It comes with the turf.

The current case against Abhisit isn't about whether he "ordered the army to kill red shirts". So the result of the case wouldn't prove that one way or the other.

If Jatuporn can't prove that Abhisit made any such order, then he would be guilty of defamation.

Sounds as though Abhisit walks the same line as the young Ferrari driver. Case goes on forever until forgotten.

[Thaiisnotrequired]

But hopefully a lot more to come yet. Just hope the military have the balls to push ahead irrespective of any flak likely to come from a few and round up all the leading trouble makers, those promoting and assisting in violence and get them to a military court on charges of murder, instigating murder, attacks on mainly peaceful protesters etc. The only way to clean up the mess is to completely remove this scum once and for all from all contact with the vunerable easy lead sheep they have been using for years for their dirty work.

And while they are at - an international arrest warrant for the fugitive and convicted criminal Thaksin would be something worth doing ASAP before he has time to find a bolt-hole somewhere like Chad, Niger, Somalia when no extradition treaty exists with Thailand.

Certainly it sounds like The Final Solution

In your dreams...

[pooket]

But hopefully a lot more to come yet. Just hope the military have the balls to push ahead irrespective of any flak likely to come from a few and round up all the leading trouble makers, those promoting and assisting in violence and get them to a military court on charges of murder, instigating murder, attacks on mainly peaceful protesters etc. The only way to clean up the mess is to completely remove this scum once and for all from all contact with the vunerable easy lead sheep they have been using for years for their dirty work.

And while they are at - an international arrest warrant for the fugitive and convicted criminal Thaksin would be something worth doing ASAP before he has time to find a bolt-hole somewhere like Chad, Niger, Somalia when no extradition treaty exists with Thailand.

I completely agree! It's about time all those people who took the airports hostage a few years ago were given prison sentences. And the "easy lead sheep" are finally out of Lumpini Park, so it should be easy to herd them into jail. Good work Artisi! Keep the faith and we'll clean up this country together!

[chainarong]

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There would be a LOT of TVF members behind bars if the powers that be decided to "drop by" and read some of the things said about people here!!!

People in Glass houses shouldn't really be throwing stones

But they do read them