Popular Post george Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 OPINION [Video] Thailand Coup 2014 - Message to John Kerry and the World 39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Credo Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 I didn't know the enemy was either John Kerry or the World. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Snig27 Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 Who on earth made that drivel? 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm all for the coup, but it's definitely not black and white. For the world? They've got their own problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaiwine Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 well as propaganda video's go, I liked it 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rabas Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) A little fancier than I would expect from the local Thai. Looks like it was produced by the Network of Thais Overseas (NTO), http://www.youtube.com/user/ThaisOverseas From the comments on the youtube page. "This is true story in Thailand, I'm Thai" Edited June 3, 2014 by rabas 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post daoyai Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 very sureal, Orwelian, then a cut to some RT off topic propoganda,...... sureal. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post love1012 Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 I didn't know the enemy was either John Kerry or the World. isnt "enemy" a strong word - maybe "uninformed party that needs to be given a balanced view" is better 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sumtingwong Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 No surprise that traitor Jane Fonda Kerry sides with the commie red-shirts, he has always sided with the commies. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post than Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 A good vision of the situation in this country ..... We support Thai Armed Forces 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NeverSure Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 How are the people going to learn the value of their votes if they don't suffer the consequences? There can be a long series of coups each with a reset leading to same same, or there can be a long series of elections where people get hurt. But even the rice farmers and therefore Isaan could eventually learn that voting for corrupt people doesn't really benefit them. Lots of democracies go through long birthing pains. The US had a devastating civil war 100 years after it was founded where masses were killed. Atlanta was burned to the ground. But out the other side there was a long learning and coming together process. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Johpa Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 George, I know I am not allowed to criticize the moderators, but as the puu yai baan (headman) of ThaiVisa, actually more akin to the phuu wa ratchakaan (governor) now that your website has grown from the early days, posting that particular political propaganda piece under the news section was, in the politest term I can come up with without being banned for life, terribly unbecoming. 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Costas2008 Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) Who on earth made that drivel? The people that suffered for the past six months, because of the political situation in Thailand. The people that dislike John Kerry's intervention and comments on Thailand politics. The people that are happy and welcome the army, that already brought calm and justice to Thailand. The people that are proud of themselves and disapprove foreign intervention. The people that live in this country and love their country.........THE THAIS. Edited June 3, 2014 by Costas2008 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sjaak327 Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 Let's just say, this video is very economical with the truth. The first few sentences already contained lies, Thaksin never passed the Amnesty law, he might have tried it, but it was never passed. I will refrain from some of the other <deleted>, except to point out that reform can only be performed if there is a government that has a clear electoral mandate. Of course after the reform by the militairy, there is no doubt the same people, or at the very least people from the same background and same methods will return to power, simply because a large part of the Thai electorate votes them into office, just as happens all around the world. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NeverSure Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 No surprise that traitor Jane Fonda Kerry sides with the commie red-shirts, he has always sided with the commies. I don't like Kerry at all and I agree with what he is, but he's speaking in favor of democracy. The PTP are far from commies, bad as they are. Commie is a type of government that never existed. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post george Posted June 3, 2014 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 George, I know I am not allowed to criticize the moderators, but as the puu yai baan (headman) of ThaiVisa, actually more akin to the phuu wa ratchakaan (governor) now that your website has grown from the early days, posting that particular political propaganda piece under the news section was, in the politest term I can come up with without being banned for life, terribly unbecoming. Johpa, we are publishing opinion pieces from time to time. This video came in our news feed from an overseas expat community. We try to give airtime to all sides, why should we not? If you have other (opposite side) video content to balance it out, feel free to PM me the YouTube links and we will probably publish. Cheers 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumtingwong Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 How are the people going to learn the value of their votes if they don't suffer the consequences? There can be a long series of coups each with a reset leading to same same, or there can be a long series of elections where people get hurt. But even the rice farmers and therefore Isaan could eventually learn that voting for corrupt people doesn't really benefit them. Lots of democracies go through long birthing pains. The US had a devastating civil war 100 years after it was founded where masses were killed. Atlanta was burned to the ground. But out the other side there was a long learning and coming together process. And it bothers you that Thailand is more civilized than the USA, that Thailand chooses to avoid a civil war and the loss of millions of lives, the end result becoming like Cambodia under Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge (Thaksin and the commie red-shirts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NeverSure Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 George, I know I am not allowed to criticize the moderators, but as the puu yai baan (headman) of ThaiVisa, actually more akin to the phuu wa ratchakaan (governor) now that your website has grown from the early days, posting that particular political propaganda piece under the news section was, in the politest term I can come up with without being banned for life, terribly unbecoming. So you too want to censor the news? That is a speech to the world and like it or not, it's news. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sjaak327 Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 Who on earth made that drivel? The people that suffered for the past six months, because of the political situation in Thailand. The people that dislike John Kerry's intervention and comments on Thailand politics. The people that are happy and welcome the army, that already brought calm and justice to Thailand. The people that are proud for themselves and disapprove foreign intervention. The people that live in this country and love their country.........THE THAIS. Funny you should say that, as I do know a few Thais, that just as the producers of this video, live overseas. They nevertheless have a completely different opinion. I guess some Thais are more Thai then others right ? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro01 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 There is a very simple reason that politicians will not back this coup. They don't want to get kicked out by their own armies for the same reasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumtingwong Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 No surprise that traitor Jane Fonda Kerry sides with the commie red-shirts, he has always sided with the commies. I don't like Kerry at all and I agree with what he is, but he's speaking in favor of democracy. The PTP are far from commies, bad as they are. Commie is a type of government that never existed. You could not be more wrong. http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/LE13Ae01.html https://thaipoliticalprisoners.wordpress.com/2010/05/18/red-shirts-as-communists/ A husband and wife commie red-shirt UDD team with the husband serving as a member of parliament for the PTP since 2011. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weng_Tojirakarn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thida_Thavornseth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maxme Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) How are the people going to learn the value of their votes if they don't suffer the consequences? There can be a long series of coups each with a reset leading to same same, or there can be a long series of elections where people get hurt. But even the rice farmers and therefore Isaan could eventually learn that voting for corrupt people doesn't really benefit them. Lots of democracies go through long birthing pains. The US had a devastating civil war 100 years after it was founded where masses were killed. Atlanta was burned to the ground. But out the other side there was a long learning and coming together process. And it bothers you that Thailand is more civilized than the USA, that Thailand chooses to avoid a civil war and the loss of millions of lives, the end result becoming like Cambodia under Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge (Thaksin and the commie red-shirts).More civilized than the US... surely you jest? Edited June 3, 2014 by maxme 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luger2 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Who on earth made that drivel? The people that suffered for the past six months, because of the political situation in Thailand. The people that dislike John Kerry's intervention and comments on Thailand politics. The people that are happy and welcome the army, that already brought calm and justice to Thailand. The people that are proud for themselves and disapprove foreign intervention. The people that live in this country and love their country.........THE THAIS. Funny you should say that, as I do know a few Thais, that just as the producers of this video, live overseas. They nevertheless have a completely different opinion. I guess some Thais are more Thai then others right ? No Thais are more Thai than other Thais. These Thais are voicing their opinions. You should encourage those overseas Thais you know to make their own video to air their completely different opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post englishoak Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 OH MY GOD 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sumtingwong Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 Jane Fonda Kerry belongs in a US Federal prison, not in the US Federal government. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Who on earth made that drivel? The people that suffered for the past six months, because of the political situation in Thailand. The people that dislike John Kerry's intervention and comments on Thailand politics. The people that are happy and welcome the army, that already brought calm and justice to Thailand. The people that are proud for themselves and disapprove foreign intervention. The people that live in this country and love their country.........THE THAIS. Funny you should say that, as I do know a few Thais, that just as the producers of this video, live overseas. They nevertheless have a completely different opinion. I guess some Thais are more Thai then others right ? No Thais are more Thai than other Thais. These Thais are voicing their opinions. You should encourage those overseas Thais you know to make their own video to air their completely different opinion. No I would rather not. If you make such a video, the least you could do is not tell blatant lies. There is a difference between having an opinion and flat out lying. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NeverSure Posted June 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2014 How are the people going to learn the value of their votes if they don't suffer the consequences? There can be a long series of coups each with a reset leading to same same, or there can be a long series of elections where people get hurt. But even the rice farmers and therefore Isaan could eventually learn that voting for corrupt people doesn't really benefit them. Lots of democracies go through long birthing pains. The US had a devastating civil war 100 years after it was founded where masses were killed. Atlanta was burned to the ground. But out the other side there was a long learning and coming together process. And it bothers you that Thailand is more civilized than the USA, that Thailand chooses to avoid a civil war and the loss of millions of lives, the end result becoming like Cambodia under Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge (Thaksin and the commie red-shirts). Why should I engage you about this when you don't know the definition of commie, and you think Thailand is more civilized than the US? The arrests by the Junta would have happened in the US a long time ago. Comparing the red shirts who I disapprove of mightily to Pol Pot is really over the top. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumtingwong Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Buttout Jane Fonda Kerry and the rest of the world, Thais know what they are doing and have done this many times. The long Thai history of peaceful bloodless legalized coups. "Dynamics and Institutionalization of Coup in Thai Constitution" http://www.ide.go.jp/English/Publish/Download/Vrf/pdf/483.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumtingwong Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 How are the people going to learn the value of their votes if they don't suffer the consequences? There can be a long series of coups each with a reset leading to same same, or there can be a long series of elections where people get hurt. But even the rice farmers and therefore Isaan could eventually learn that voting for corrupt people doesn't really benefit them. Lots of democracies go through long birthing pains. The US had a devastating civil war 100 years after it was founded where masses were killed. Atlanta was burned to the ground. But out the other side there was a long learning and coming together process. And it bothers you that Thailand is more civilized than the USA, that Thailand chooses to avoid a civil war and the loss of millions of lives, the end result becoming like Cambodia under Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge (Thaksin and the commie red-shirts). Why should I engage you about this when you don't know the definition of commie, and you think Thailand is more civilized than the US? The arrests by the Junta would have happened in the US a long time ago. Comparing the red shirts who I disapprove of mightily to Pol Pot is really over the top. And that explains the commie red-shirts flying the Cambodian flag at their riots, how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luger2 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 The people that suffered for the past six months, because of the political situation in Thailand. The people that dislike John Kerry's intervention and comments on Thailand politics. The people that are happy and welcome the army, that already brought calm and justice to Thailand. The people that are proud for themselves and disapprove foreign intervention. The people that live in this country and love their country.........THE THAIS. Funny you should say that, as I do know a few Thais, that just as the producers of this video, live overseas. They nevertheless have a completely different opinion. I guess some Thais are more Thai then others right ? No Thais are more Thai than other Thais. These Thais are voicing their opinions. You should encourage those overseas Thais you know to make their own video to air their completely different opinion. No I would rather not. Fair enough. In that case then, enjoy the Thais that do choose to voice their opinion. If you have a different opinion on what you consider not to be factual, perhaps you consider making your own video to detail them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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