EC says there are no political parties in Thailand now

[hard124get]

Thailand is a military Junta, like Egypt, which is backed by the west.

[ginjag]

Whats happened to all the Hub jokes, haven't seen one for ages.

Thailand "the hub" of no political partys.

#23 page 1. The EC explains to a lady voter.

[Gsxrnz]

Wonder if they are still getting paid ?

regards worgeordie

Somehow I don't think they'll be too worried about losing their meagre salary - but reduced access to the feeding trough will be causing some despair to be sure.

Their might be a few Mercs going cheap soon.

[stickyrice2000]

The junta should consider removing the EC to save taxpayer's bahts.

[fab4]

We could a have party but I think a funeral and a wake marking once again the death of democracy!

If you think what we had was democracy there is no point in trying to reason with you. Let me say this, if you live in a small village in the north and are married to a Thai, you have seen intimidation at work.

Let me say this, if you live in a small village in the north and are married to a Thai, you have seen intimidation at work.

You could always get a divorce

[djjamie]

It is one step at a time.

First the Thai's need to see progress with the reconciliation process. The General has made good headway with the rice payments, building reconciliation bridges up north through open communication and removing the criminals and their weapons off the streets to make the country a safer place for all to live in.

The next stage is the reform process. This will be critical in ensuring that democracy does not crumble by offering free and fair elections where intimidation is not witnessed. A good start was removing the "red shirt village" signs that allured to the fact that everyone in the village supporters red shirts and if you didn't you are made to feel you simply don't count and will be ostracized. (Psychology 101) And post election reform that ensures no political party can abuse the democratic framework again.

Then and only then can political parties enter the process that will allow a return to a functioning democracy where you don't hear of an MP suing another MP on a weekly basis, where you don't hear Deputy PM's promising beheading themselves, promising that Phuket will get what it wants if it votes a certain way, calling environmentalists garbage, dressing up as a 13th century king and voting against the majorities wishes in the case of the amnesty vote.

The most important thing upon the return of political parties is accountability and transparency with the public and it is critical to do everything the opposite of what yingluck did in her term in office to make this a reality. They need to answer the hard questions, they need to debate on TV, they need to answer questions and concerns from the public in appropriate televised forums. They need to have the people engaged. Not through red shirt TV or Bluesky. Both spouting an agenda filled with hate for the opposition. Thais need positive intellectual forums that engage the population who in turn will not feel like they are being held in contempt, but will feel part of the political process in a positive way, in a constructive way and most importantly in a non violent way.

I welcome all political parties back and if a PTP aligned party wins the next election I will be happy, my wife will be happy and I am sure all DEM's will be happy. Because they will all know that after reform democracy will flourish and not be abused. If it is then the army will not be required to step in because through reform processes and checks and balances will be in place to ensure any incidents are dealt with through the democratic framework.

Of course there are those in the shadows and fringes of society that are still bitter and twisted and pessimistic after the last 2 weeks of events. Those that want to drag Thailand back to the bloody days pre coup. I say to them. Get over yourself.

Give reform and democracy a chance and if you don't like it in 18 months then wing and be pessimistic all you want.

Edited June 4, 2014 by djjamie

[BigRick]

It is one step at a time.

First the Thai's need to see progress with the reconciliation process. The General has made good headway with the rice payments, building reconciliation bridges up north through open communication and removing the criminals and their weapons off the streets to make the country a safer place for all to live in.

The next stage is the reform process. This will be critical in ensuring that democracy does not crumble by offering free and fair elections where intimidation is not witnessed. A good start was removing the "red shirt village" signs that allured to the fact that everyone in the village supporters red shirts and if you didn't you are made to feel you simply don't count and will be ostracized. (Psychology 101) And post election reform that ensures no political party can abuse the democratic framework again.

Then and only then can political parties enter the process that will allow a return to a functioning democracy where you don't hear of an MP suing another MP on a weekly basis, where you don't hear Deputy PM's promising beheading themselves, promising that Phuket will get what it wants if it votes a certain way, calling environmentalists garbage, dressing up as a 13th century king and voting against the majorities wishes in the case of the amnesty vote.

The most important thing upon the return of political parties is accountability and transparency with the public and it is critical to do everything the opposite of what yingluck did in her term in office to make this a reality. They need to answer the hard questions, they need to debate on TV, they need to answer questions and concerns from the public in appropriate televised forums. They need to have the people engaged. Not through red shirt TV or Bluesky. Both spouting an agenda filled with hate for the opposition. Thais need positive intellectual forums that engage the population who in turn will not feel like they are being held in contempt, but will feel part of the political process in a positive way, in a constructive way and most importantly in a non violent way.

I welcome all political parties back and if a PTP aligned party wins the next election I will be happy, my wife will be happy and I am sure all DEM's will be happy. Because they will all know that after reform democracy will flourish and not be abused. If it is then the army will not be required to step in because through reform processes and checks and balances will be in place to ensure any incidents are dealt with through the democratic framework.

Of course there are those in the shadows and fringes of society that are still bitter and twisted and pessimistic after the last 2 weeks of events. Those that want to drag Thailand back to the bloody days pre coup. I say to them. Get over yourself.

Give reform and democracy a chance and if you don't like it in 18 months then wing and be pessimistic all you want.

To anyone else who does not want to read a diatribe the summary is this "I drink the Yellow Koolaid! Ohh yeah!"

Edited June 4, 2014 by BigRick

[Sattahip2014]

Lucky Thailand.

Australia has quite a few political parties and would be happy to give away the Australian PM Tony dumb dumb.

Google

Tony dumb dumb

[Choonpon]

With or without political parties, as long as there's prosperity and peace in the kingdom:)

So what if there are political parties, they fight for their so called democracy. In the end Thailand has been in the world news- for the wrong reason.

[Fat Haggis]

All one needs to do is read the comments on Michael Yons FB page to realise that there's never going to be "reconciliation" the bile and hatred that some of his "followers" spew out is nauseating, you cannot reconcile someone through the barrel of a gun either, it's a noble and grand idea, but even some farang's here keep posting the same "anti red shirt" hated, if so called educated Westerners cannot reconcile their differences for the good of Thailand, what chance do the Thai's have?

Shouldn't the headline be more along the lines of "The now defunct and not needed Electoral Commission says there are no political parties" if there's no parties, there's no requirement for them, so the ruling Junta have basically said so pack up your offices and go home, don't call us, we'll call you!!

[gemini81]

So, Thailand is officially a dictatorship.

Better than a fiefdom of the Shinawatras. Cut down the corruption ten fold.

I say it again, Thailand gets a fiefdom or a dictator; that's the nature of the place! But we still love it, or we wouldn't be here, right?!

[gemini81]

All one needs to do is read the comments on Michael Yons FB page to realise that there's never going to be "reconciliation" the bile and hatred that some of his "followers" spew out is nauseating, you cannot reconcile someone through the barrel of a gun either, it's a noble and grand idea, but even some farang's here keep posting the same "anti red shirt" hated, if so called educated Westerners cannot reconcile their differences for the good of Thailand, what chance do the Thai's have?

Shouldn't the headline be more along the lines of "The now defunct and not needed Electoral Commission says there are no political parties" if there's no parties, there's no requirement for them, so the ruling Junta have basically said so pack up your offices and go home, don't call us, we'll call you!!

The gun has done lots of reconciling since it's invention- like it or not, its made lots of impacting changes, whether good or bad.

[Fat Haggis]

All one needs to do is read the comments on Michael Yons FB page to realise that there's never going to be "reconciliation" the bile and hatred that some of his "followers" spew out is nauseating, you cannot reconcile someone through the barrel of a gun either, it's a noble and grand idea, but even some farang's here keep posting the same "anti red shirt" hated, if so called educated Westerners cannot reconcile their differences for the good of Thailand, what chance do the Thai's have?

Shouldn't the headline be more along the lines of "The now defunct and not needed Electoral Commission says there are no political parties" if there's no parties, there's no requirement for them, so the ruling Junta have basically said so pack up your offices and go home, don't call us, we'll call you!!

The gun has done lots of reconciling since it's invention- like it or not, its made lots of impacting changes, whether good or bad.

John Farnhams "The Voice" springs to mind

[Eric Loh]

Give credit to the NCPO for trying reconciliation but really is a mountain to climb feat. Thailand is not unique in any circumstances in having opposing sides with entrenched ideology. Perfectly normal in a democratic country. That's why we have the electoral process which the people chose which ideology represented by political party is suitable to lead the country. Parties that fail will just have to work harder to be heard. You don't need a coup to sort this out; just need an election, strict rule of law and courts and independent agencies performing their responsibilities and be apolitical.

[SamMunich]

That is the typical statement of somebody who feels he needs to show, that he is important. Of course the parties all do exist as before, else in all other sucessful coups before all parties would have been disbanded with the tearing up of the constitution. The Democrat party is around 60 years old, Banharn's outfit is also pretty old and I wonder, who are the remnants of old Chart Thai Party, not to mention Chart Pattana Party.

If that were due to being organic laws to the constitution, well, the the Election Commission doesn't exist either since May 22nd....

[gemini81]

We could a have party but I think a funeral and a wake marking once again the death of democracy!

If you think what we had was democracy there is no point in trying to reason with you. Let me say this, if you live in a small village in the north and are married to a Thai, you have seen intimidation at work.

Let me say this, if you live in a small village in the north and are married to a Thai, you have seen intimidation at work.

You could always get a divorce

You're one rotten individual; horrible statements to tell others. A simple observation of the feudal intimidation he notices going on & you say that.

Is it because it conflicts with pro-feudalism/anti (disbanned/banned/failed) PTP possibly?

Edited June 4, 2014 by gemini81

[Fat Haggis]

I think you've misinterpreted what Fab4 and the OP said, from what I read reference being married to a Thai girl in the North, and viewing intimidation, it appeared that he was talking about his wife doing the intimidating, that's how I read it too.

[gemini81]

I think you've misinterpreted what Fab4 and the OP said, from what I read reference being married to a Thai girl in the North, and viewing intimidation, it appeared that he was talking about his wife doing the intimidating, that's how I read it too.

We are well acquainted with his style and words.

They tend to be domineering, as they generally control the finances in the family and work a little harder than the husband. Give and take- I married one from the north. Got to control the money yourself, and let them know who the man is and wears the pants and decides; that's all.

Edited June 4, 2014 by gemini81

[Gunna]

Wow a country that has no politicians

A bit like North Korea then.

No, their " Peoples Assembly " has 687 seats

They call themselves "Democratic" because they have elections, but have only the ruling party ( Workers Party of Korea ) with a couple of small political parties who are under the rules of the WPK. and run as a family Dictatorship which is what many in PTP & UDD were trying to get for Thailand

[Fat Haggis]

I think you've misinterpreted what Fab4 and the OP said, from what I read reference being married to a Thai girl in the North, and viewing intimidation, it appeared that he was talking about his wife doing the intimidating, that's how I read it too.

We are well acquainted with his style and words.

They tend to be domineering, as they generally control the finances in the family and work a little harder than the husband. Give and take- I married one from the north. Got to control the money yourself, and let them know who the man is and wears the pants and decides; that's all.

If that's the case about intimidation and domination, unless you want to live like that, what is so bad about saying "get a divorce" then mate? I know plenty of guys who were married to round eyes, who were subject to bullying and intimidation by their wives and families and were <deleted> miserable and had NO life what so ever, they divorced them to break free from that. Why is it so different to being married to a Thai?

Is it more of about the personal fear that being alone, with nothing, and being unable to find that same type o relationship back in the home countries, that many farang "husband" just put up with "Thainess" in their women?

It's about choices, you can either be pussy whipped and be the "bitch" and nothing more than a means to an end, or you can do what you've done, and took control.

[rabas]

The army is the sole power owner of Thailand. What if something happened to Prayuth and the next person in power does not share the same principles? Just a thought.

No. Thailand remains a constitutional monarchy and that constitution is still in power except those parts relating to politics that were gutted. The courts all still there as well.

[citizen33]

, if you live in a small village in the north and are married to a Thai, you have seen intimidation at work.

If you include NE, been there done that - pure fantasy.

[rabas]

I think you've misinterpreted what Fab4 and the OP said, from what I read reference being married to a Thai girl in the North, and viewing intimidation, it appeared that he was talking about his wife doing the intimidating, that's how I read it too.

We are well acquainted with his style and words.

They tend to be domineering, as they generally control the finances in the family and work a little harder than the husband. Give and take- I married one from the north. Got to control the money yourself, and let them know who the man is and wears the pants and decides; that's all.

If that's the case about intimidation and domination, unless you want to live like that, what is so bad about saying "get a divorce" then mate? I know plenty of guys who were married to round eyes, who were subject to bullying and intimidation by their wives and families and were <deleted> miserable and had NO life what so ever, they divorced them to break free from that. Why is it so different to being married to a Thai?

Is it more of about the personal fear that being alone, with nothing, and being unable to find that same type o relationship back in the home countries, that many farang "husband" just put up with "Thainess" in their women?

It's about choices, you can either be pussy whipped and be the "bitch" and nothing more than a means to an end, or you can do what you've done, and took control.

It's about ducks.

[ggold]

I'm curious, did they tell Thaksin, Abhisit etc that there are no political parties now? Because I'm pretty sure that they still think they are in political parties of one kind or another.

Something tells me that if this is the calibre of People running the civilian administration, then Thailand is in serious trouble. I would have understood if they had said all current politicians are banned from holding office untill proven that they were not involved with corruption etc. But the same old faces will appear and nothing would have been advanced to resolve the political mess.

Now taking odd for when the next coup wil take place?

[ggold]

We could a have party but I think a funeral and a wake marking once again the death of democracy!

If you think what we had was democracy there is no point in trying to reason with you. Let me say this, if you live in a small village in the north and are married to a Thai, you have seen intimidation at work.

Let me say this, if you live in a small village in the north and are married to a Thai, you have seen intimidation at work.

You could always get a divorce

I don't think his wife would allow it! She obviuosly has no fear She may ram rod his Ar**e if he tried?

[IMA_FARANG]

Hah, hah ......if only that were in fact true.

I recommended a more or before noe, that ALL political parties in Thailand be suspended for 5 years.

Or to be more cllear I asked that ALL current politicians be forced to esign from ANY exisring political party and be suspended for participating in any political party for that 5 year pweriod..

The reason i was that the then current Thai "political" problems in which both of the major poltical parties appeared to be unable to avoid putting their selfish and self-serving interests appeared to be incapable of putting their self-interest above the countries interests.

There they should be suspended for 5 years until they could demonstrate thaat the country'd intrersts were above theirs until that period of time ended, when presumably they would have changed thir interests.

So far, even thiugh I applaud the excelllant work of the Thai Junta sofar, I have not yet ANY kind of demomstration that the Thai politicians yet show any desire of taking the interests of the Thai people

above their own shelfish interests.

own

And so far, I have any proof they ever will.

I'll be happy to apolpgise for that statement if they ever do show such views.

Edited June 4, 2014 by IMA_FARANG

[pisico]

The army is the sole power owner of Thailand. What if something happened to Prayuth and the next person in power does not share the same principles? Just a thought.

It happened to Pibhunsongkhram back in the mid 40s. He was kicked out by a military coup that was not as reformist as he was.

Read the 12 Mandates and shudder.

[Eric Loh]

Hah, hah ......if only that were in fact true.

I recommended a more or before noe, that ALL political parties in Thailand be suspended for 5 years.

Or to be more cllear I asked that ALL current politicians be forced to esign from ANY exisring political party and be suspended for participating in any political party for that 5 year pweriod..

The reason i was that the then current Thai "political" problems in which both of the major poltical parties appeared to be unable to avoid putting their selfish and self-serving interests appeared to be incapable of putting their self-interest above the countries interests.

There they should be suspended for 5 years until they could demonstrate thaat the country'd intrersts were above theirs until that period of time ended, when presumably they would have changed thir interests.

So far, even thiugh I applaud the excelllant work of the Thai Junta sofar, I have not yet ANY kind of demomstration that the Thai politicians yet show any desire of taking the interests of the Thai people

above their own shelfish interests.

own

And so far, I have any proof they ever will.

I'll be happy to apolpgise for that statement if they ever do show such views.

Rather utopian hope. No politicians whether in Thailand or any where else in the world goes into politics without any self interest for himself, ideology or for his party. No exception even in a socialist or communist state. Even a coup has its self interest agenda. Forget about wanting for that to happen. Allow the people and the system to judge and to ferret out the ill desirables. Have a just court to charge and convict those bent on using politics for self gain.

[bigbamboo]

So, Thailand is officially a dictatorship.

Yes, but a benevolent dictatorship.

[ratcatcher]

Thai politics is like a bucket of sewage - the Generals are giving it another stir so some new pieces of excrement can float to the surface.

Your analogy, although rather vulgar has its good points. I shall have to continue in the same vein.

Think of Thai politics as a toilet that hadn't been flushed for a while due to a blockage by PTP (Political Toilet Paper).

Soon people started to complain about the stink but no-one was actually prepared to get their masks on and their hands dirty and do something about it.

Finally, along comes the Military Janitorial Company and acting in the best interests of the people, they flush the toilet (with powerful Coup Cleaner) and naturally as things sometimes happen there are still the odd klingons floating around.

However the stink has been alleviated and life starts to get back to normal.

The generals will continue to clean & stir and some nasty new faeces will appear from time to time until they have eradicated all the problems.

Even better than a 'straight flush'