Popular Post webfact Posted June 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2014 Forces raid four villages trespassed on national park landCHIANG MAI: -- About 500 army troopers, police and forestry officials raided four villages in Chiang Mai’s Chiang Dao district in search of illegal logs and illicit drugs.All the villages have trespassed on the Sri Lanna national park and mostly occupied by Muser tribesmen who allegedly felled trees to pave way for land for cultivation.The authorities seized seized several illegal logs and wooden planks and arrested two tribesmen after finding narcotics drugs in their possession.In Ban Pang Tong, three brand-new pick-up trucks were found in one of the shanty houses. One house was dismantled after it was discovered that it was roughly built with too many wooden planks which was believed to be a cover-up for an illegal log trade.In Ban Kiew Hai, three Muser tribesmen were arrested after authorities found may illegal wooden planks in their possession. Three chain saws and three muzzle-loaded guns were seized.Chiang Mai deputy governor Mr Chana Paengpibul said that Sri Lanna national park covers an area of over 800,000 rai and over 4,500 rai have been encroached upon by the Muser tribesemen who have set up four villages in the mountainous terrain and cleared the forest for the timber and land for cultivation.’Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/forces-raid-four-villages-trespassed-national-park-land/ -- Thai PBS 2014-06-13 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumper101 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Chiang Mai is a hotbed of crime and raids these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 I seem to remember a similar happening in the exact same location a number of years ago. Didn't it get rather embarrassing due to an illegal road built by Newin's father-in-law. Someone refresh my memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloudhopper Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 "over 4,500 rai have been encroached upon by the Muser tribesemen who have set up four villages" This could not possibly have happened without the knowledge of the Royal Forest Dept. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Johpa Posted June 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2014 Interesting how upland minorities such as the Lahu and the Karen are so often evicted from pubic lands whilst Thai-Chinese are so rarely evicted in a like manner: e.g., Phuket Yacht Club, Phi Phi Island, the CP Group and Boon Rawd in Chiang Rai, the Four Seasons Hotel in Mae Rim, Shinawats in Sankampeng. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 We used to have that sort of riff raff messing with the land long ago in USA. We called them Indians and did our best to wipe them out. So what if it was there traditional homelands and way of life. Hmmm is this cultural imperialism by Thais? (see post about that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oscar2 Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 (edited) Interesting how upland minorities such as the Lahu and the Karen are so often evicted from pubic lands whilst Thai-Chinese are so rarely evicted in a like manner: e.g., Phuket Yacht Club, Phi Phi Island, the CP Group and Boon Rawd in Chiang Rai, the Four Seasons Hotel in Mae Rim, Shinawats in Sankampeng. did the latter posses narcotics and weapons and were they in national parks? Edited June 13, 2014 by Oscar2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Johpa Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 Interesting how upland minorities such as the Lahu and the Karen are so often evicted from pubic lands whilst Thai-Chinese are so rarely evicted in a like manner: e.g., Phuket Yacht Club, Phi Phi Island, the CP Group and Boon Rawd in Chiang Rai, the Four Seasons Hotel in Mae Rim, Shinawats in Sankampeng. did the latter posses narcotics and weapons and were they in national parks? Not narcotics but they have shown up armed or with police backing. And it ran the gamut from National Park to National Forest to Municiple Land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 We used to have that sort of riff raff messing with the land long ago in USA. We called them Indians and did our best to wipe them out. So what if it was there traditional homelands and way of life. Hmmm is this cultural imperialism by Thais? (see post about that)Yes, many injustices are part of US history. I wasn't around then, but it is a reminder of how governments act and are judged by those in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted June 15, 2014 Share Posted June 15, 2014 Interesting how upland minorities such as the Lahu and the Karen are so often evicted from pubic lands whilst Thai-Chinese are so rarely evicted in a like manner: e.g., Phuket Yacht Club, Phi Phi Island, the CP Group and Boon Rawd in Chiang Rai, the Four Seasons Hotel in Mae Rim, Shinawats in Sankampeng.It will be interesting to see where this all goes. The mighty have fallen and history is a testament to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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