Get off your high horse, America, we do not need a ride: Thai opinion

[AfterLOS]

A poorly written article really.

As for the US, best they stuck to what they know, which is invading countries , trying to install their version of democracy, and then leaving the place in disarray.

Invading countries and ruining them is only #2 on the list of top American tendencies.

There is another and it is #1 .....

America's best bullmarket is the current rocketrise in FOOD STAMPS

Getting on Disability is now a way of Life for a vast number of citizens of America.

Can't help but think of the day the receding waters fooled everyone on Patong

Beach as yours truly drove away in a heartbeat and escaped both waves. This tsunami

is notably different in that the ship called America is already half submerged but not only

has nobody noticed this, so busy they are partying away like there's no tomorrow in the still

floating half of the ship.

The only Americans to survive the approaching tsunami are those that live in Isaan and chiangmai, LOL

[Lowryder]

What is the US BIGGEST contribution to Thailand?? Probably Pattaya would be among them - they turned a tiny fishing village into the scum that is Walking street in 6 months and filled the bars with issan bar ladies - thanks for supporting us USA!! next time keep walking!!

There have never been a shortage of hookers in Thailand, they just needed help to understand how to organize the trade.

[thedude82]

The title of the article...get off your high horse...we dont need a ride...What does that even mean? The title is flawed in meaning, but Obviously the Thai has his own ride in a TukTuk complete with several stops at low price jewelry shops and restaurants with no prices on the menu...

If Thailand really wants to stick it to America, they should posture the Thai "fleet" to setup an invasion force along the coast of California...

On a serious note you can criticize America all day long, every country has done it, and sure we are blamed for everything....and I mean everything... But you know what, Americans will "lose face" and admit to problems that need to be fixed. Here on the other hand...Thais dont take criticism too well...

[simple1]

What is the US BIGGEST contribution to Thailand?? Probably Pattaya would be among them - they turned a tiny fishing village into the scum that is Walking street in 6 months and filled the bars with issan bar ladies - thanks for supporting us USA!! next time keep walking!!

Let’s have a go...

US investment of $21 billion in Thailand.

Support over many years for the highest institution that we are not permitted to debate.

Encouragement for actually enforcing human rights and so on for the Conventions the Thai government has ratified and signed

Others that you may like to include and rank?

The OP apparently does not understand the US foreign policy process that has led to the announcements. Or is she just pandering to a nationalistic domestic audience? Due to her criminal convictions I would not think she would be the best person for 'The Nation' to provide oxygen.

I currently do support the Coup. However, let us see if the Coup leaders manage to achieve their stated goals against the resistance by Government and Provincial bureaucrats who have been corrupt for years.

Edited June 26, 2014 by simple1

[mesquite]

I find this article interesting. While there is a lot of crap in it there is also a lot of truth.

Corruption seems to be more and more rampant i the US these days.

IRS picking on conservative veiew groups.

NSA tapping everyone's phones

A government that can not pass a piece of legistalture.

A president that thumbs his nose at congress and does what he wants.

These are the internal issues.

Externally

Iraq due to a vacuum left by Obama has turned to Iran for help unless it wants to become an Islamic Sunni nation much as Afghanistan was.

Afghanistan will within in 2 years be the Islamic state of Afghanistan under taliban rule again.

Syria is on it's way to doing the same thing

Now when there are good things that can be done to help this country the US and EU decide to thumb their noses at Thailand. China now steps in as the new big brother stepping up it's relationship with one of the biggest members of ASEAN to offer support.

No offence to any Americans here but you have to wonder how the US can claim to be a superpower if they are not able or willing to do anything to help other countries.

If Iraq fails then that will make the US 0-2-1 with Afghanistan and undecided.

Did you ever hear of the Tsunami? It was a big deal here in Thailand. The US sent lots of aid.

Maybe next time there is a big disaster, the US should hold off, recalling all of this criticism.

You are right about Obama, though.

[AfterLOS]

At least the US can take criticism. We can slag the place off all we want on here with no fear of vanishing during the night.

You could make it public you hate Bush/Obama and still be granted a visa... Important differences, I think.

Spot on! A significant point. America has no equal in this regard. Another one that many fail to mention is the BENEVOLENCE

inherent in Americans in general - used to be huge decades ago, reduced now quite a bit but still shines thru' on occasion.

Compare this with the Brits Haven, Thaivisa, where one is immedately blacklisted for anything negative about England or UK.

Only exception noted is football, where even the Thaivisa cops can't stand their own country, LOL

[Living in a cartoon]

I just love that Victory Monument. Who the hell did they ever defeat?

"The monument was erected in June 1941 to commemorate the Thai victory in the Franco-Thai War, a brief conflict waged against the French colonial authorities in Indo-China, which resulted in Thailand annexing some territories in western Cambodia and northern and southern Laos. These were among the territories which the Kingdom of Siam had been forced to cede to France in 1893 and 1904, and patriotic Thais considered them rightfully to belong to Thailand.

In fact the fighting between the Thais and the French in December 1940 and January 1941 had been brief and inconclusive. Only 59 Thai troops were killed, and the final territorial settlement was imposed on both parties by Japan, which did not want to see a prolonged war between two regional allies at a time when it was preparing to launch a war of conquest in South East Asia. Thailand's gains were less than it hoped for, although more than the French wished to concede. Nevertheless the Thai regime of Field Marshal Plaek Phibunsongkhram decided to celebrate the war as a great victory, and the monument was commissioned, designed and erected within a few months.

The monument became an embarrassment in a more political sense in 1945 when the Allied victory in the Pacific War forced Thailand to evacuate the territories it had gained in 1941 and return them to France. Many Thais regard the monument as an inappropriate symbol of militarism and a relic of what they now see as a discredited regime. Nevertheless the monument remains one of Bangkok's most familiar landmarks."

I just love Victory Monument. I giggle everytime I drive by.

[rethaier]

Then why ever morning at the American Embassy their are long lines of people who want to come to this country. Answer that. We must be doing something right.

Because they think they can get rich and they are ignorant of the corruption in the U.S of A. You are doing somethings right but there is a bloody lot you do wrong too.

[gemini81]

At least the US can take criticism. We can slag the place off all we want on here with no fear of vanishing during the night.

You could make it public you hate Bush/Obama and still be granted a visa... Important differences, I think.

Spot on! A significant point. America has no equal in this regard. Another one that many fail to mention is the BENEVOLENCE

inherent in Americans in general - used to be huge decades ago, reduced now quite a bit but still shines thru' on occasion.

Compare this with the Brits Haven, Thaivisa, where one is immedately blacklisted for anything negative about England or UK.

Only exception noted is football, where even the Thaivisa cops can't stand their own country, LOL

Isn't that the truth?

Edited June 26, 2014 by gemini81

[Pimay1]

Why is everyone getting so upset by the words of some idiot journalist.

The actions of my government dont represent me anymore than the actions of this idiot journalist.

Good post. To add credence to your statement, congress has only a 7% approval rating by the populace. The president only a 40% approval rating and continually dropping. When it comes to foreign policy the average person is not involved and when all Americans are painted with the same bursh. I venture to say if a person asked 1,000 average citizens what is the US foreign policy to any particular country, they would probably get 995 'I don't know" and five wrong answers. Most of us just want to live, let live, raise our families and be left alone.

[baboon]

At least the US can take criticism. We can slag the place off all we want on here with no fear of vanishing during the night.

You could make it public you hate Bush/Obama and still be granted a visa... Important differences, I think.

Spot on! A significant point. America has no equal in this regard. Another one that many fail to mention is the BENEVOLENCE

inherent in Americans in general - used to be huge decades ago, reduced now quite a bit but still shines thru' on occasion.

Compare this with the Brits Haven, Thaivisa, where one is immedately blacklisted for anything negative about England or UK.

Only exception noted is football, where even the Thaivisa cops can't stand their own country, LOL

Isn't that the truth? Every post with 'US' is ridden with envious trolls over their own memories of a fallen empire. Chill out and have a lime, so-to-speak!

I think I had better stay quiet about being British myself... Shh!

[transam]

The writer had a chance to make a point here. unfortunately the article is a smattering of negativity from Google searches with no coherent connection.

Yes Thailand you have made a mess of your politics, just admit it and try to fix it. Deflection to America will not make any difference.

Just because America has it's own problems doesn't mean they and the rest of the world can't see yours.

Agreed, and I think "the Thai is never wrong" face thingy covers every part of society, even at the top end.

[MMarlow]

Big words coming from a woman whose country doesn't even have a government.

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That would be an excellent remark, if it were true.

[gemini81]

Big words coming from a woman whose country doesn't even have a government.

Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand

That would be an excellent remark, if it were true.

I think they mean politicians; government officers are definitely in their offices (well, until 1 or 2 pm each day)....

[Luk Mhee]

Do we really need the “Yanks”? Consider the following;

They brutally murdered, burned, tortured and did a lot of ethnic cleansing to millions of true Native Americans, and afterwards they had the guts to call themselves true Native Americans.

They were the main culprits of the slave trade; again millions of these people were also brutally murdered and tortured.

All the technology that comes from America is not truly their own, it stems from the Nazi scientists that they kidnapped during the second world war and the blueprints that they took back with them, even today most of the improved technology comes from scientist that have defected to America

They have never won a war on their own yet without the help of allied forces, but they were quick to claim the glory.

They use our country as a dumping ground for most of the redundant industrial technology.

Not to mention the education system which they have completely destroyed with the so called “American English” keep word English out it should be called the American language, and not American English.

The list goes on and on. I strongly suggest to read the book “The invasion of the Barbarians” if you want to know what the Americans are truly up to.

[ratcatcher]

Mr. Pornpimol Kanchanalak...you are right on...in you assessment of US foreign policy and domestic problems...

It is not often the US gets a dose of it's own medicine...but you sir...have dished it out correctly...

The average American is dismayed by the lack of a coherent foreign policy...a dysfunctional government...an ever increasing eroding of personal freedoms...lawlessness at the highest levels...and the police state mentality that has filtered down to the local level of law enforcement...

Thank you for speaking the truth...

Mr. Pornpimol Kanchanalak...you are right on...in you assessment of US foreign policy and domestic problems...

[MMarlow]

Excellent article, spoiled, unfortunately, by the banal, bizarre reference to the bloody Bee Gees.

Why do so many people, including some TV posters, make references such as that? How does the inclusion of statements like "in the words of"...(insert your own choice of insignificant pop song writer, or film star, for goodness sake)and then a hideously asinine quotation from that person's song/film help the writer's credibility? Eg:-

What was it John Wayne said?

Or perhaps it was Gary Cooper who said it.

"Get off your horse and drink your milk"

Edited June 26, 2014 by MMarlow

[Frotting]

Obama spent $1,000,000,000.00 Dollars (31,000,000,000 baht) on his re-election campaign. How does a man get that much money?

Big corporations have owned our politicians for decades, our Politicians are merely puppets to distract us and keep us from having to deal with the horrible truth.

6 companies own/control %90 of all Television/new/radio/cable networks owned by the ultra Rich. They are propaganda machines that set to keep people of average or lower intelligence from thinking about the important things. In America we have "the right to privacy", recently it was exposed that the National Security Agency has been recording every phone call made in the ENTIRE nation for years. The news stations were very careful in their thought control to keep people thinking about who to blame for this.... Not one station once mention demanded that they stop.... The average intelligence American gobbled it up like their favorite dinner.

American people dont like war but you know who does? The companies that manufacture weapons for our military donate unbelievable amounts of money to our politicians in order to make sure they stay in business. We are going trillions of dollars into debt because our Politicians are literally giving it away....

Not all American are riding their high horse....

At last, finally on here someone that knows what's going on. The 'downgrading' of Thailand by America and their suspension of aid, is in retaliation for removing their puppet regime from power. The Shinawatras and their redshirt leaders were bought and paid for by organisations like the Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations, etc. In exchange for power, the Shinawatras were dismantling this country and giving it piecemeal to American Corporations. The rice pledging scheme was designed to bankrupt the farmers so that they would end up selling their land, and guess who would be there to buy it up. Thankfully this didn't pan out quite the way it was meant to.

America, acting on behalf of the global Corporate elite, has interfered in the internal politics of just about every country in the world. What gives them the right to do this? They have fomented internal conflict, as in Egypt, Libya, Syria recently, in countries that has cost countless lives; just to further an agenda of world domination. We should all be thankful their plans for Thailand failed. But make no mistake about it, they will try again. Usually, when the method of gaining control via political puppets fails, the next step is destabilisation via military intervention. This invariably begins by starting a 'false flag' event of some kind to justify putting American forces on the ground. This was the method used in Afghanistan and Iraq. It was also the method the Americans used in Cambodia toward the end of the Viet Nam war (lot of CIA involvement there) that ultimately led to Pol Pot gaining power and the genocide of 2.5 millions. Read your history.

America and its corporate masters are not going to give up. They want to own Thailand as part of their Far East foreign policy. It gives them a gateway into China among other things.

[gemini81]

Mr. Pornpimol Kanchanalak...you are right on...in you assessment of US foreign policy and domestic problems...

It is not often the US gets a dose of it's own medicine...but you sir...have dished it out correctly...

The average American is dismayed by the lack of a coherent foreign policy...a dysfunctional government...an ever increasing eroding of personal freedoms...lawlessness at the highest levels...and the police state mentality that has filtered down to the local level of law enforcement...

Thank you for speaking the truth...

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Mr. Pornpimol Kanchanalak...you are right on...in you assessment of US foreign policy and domestic problems...

Insulting those in the melting pot is to insult one's own lineage and ancestry. And begs the question why their ancestors fled if the old country land they hailed from was the land of mink & honey, and so much better........

[MMarlow]

The next report will be on all the anti America idiots who post here.

...or on the American idiots who do so.

[Mango Bob]

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Then why ever morning at the American Embassy their are long lines of people who want to come to this country. Answer that. We must be doing something right.

Why then, whenever I go out to a tourist area I run into Americans ?? Answer that.

I don't consider the places you go like

soi cowboy or Nana tourist places. You see a hell of a lot more drunk brits and aussie than you will Americans. That's for damn sure. You Brits and Aussies need to come down off your high horse.

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[gemini81]

The next report will be on all the anti America idiots who post here.

...or on the American idiots who do so.

Calm down and have a lime.

[MMarlow]

I'm not sure why this journalist (who by the way would not be able to write this article if she wasn't in complete support of the Junta due to the current Orwellian scale suppression of free speech), decided to single out the USA unless she already had an axe to grind.

The European Union, which presently consists of 28 countries and has a total population of just over 500 million citizens (504,456,000), has taken basically the same stance as the USA so you can rail against all 29 countries and 800 million citizens of those countries but it's not like the USA is the only government that has criticized the coup. In fact, the only countries supportive of the coup are those with fake democracies like Russia or no democracy like China.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/eu-raps-thailand-on-coup/1194916.html

I'm not sure why this article was reposted here - the admin think it was time for some good old America bashing? I can't say anything inflammatory on this forum about the Thai government but it's OK to isolate the USA for bashing over the same criticism given to Thailand by 28 other Western countries?

The EU and USA are not the same as the collective 800m citizens you refer to. Opposition to what is happening in Thailand is not coming from 800m people at all, it's coming from the EU's and USA's representatives of those people, many millions of whom are not happy being represented by those few individuals.

[poweratradio]

I like the U.S. For all the factory outlet stores selling all the brand name stuff really cheap but then I guess I could have bought it all at the brand names source countries too. Made in Thailand you say?? OMG!

[Daniel Boon]

Thailand really does suffer from delusions of grandeur….its laughable one of the most corrupt country’s in se asia, a terrible human rights record even on its own people, a system that accepts and promotes prostitution of all genders etc…Thailand the hub of 3^rd world laughs

It really is amusing to read the above rubbish; however, just replace Thailand with the USA and the rest fits like a glove (sans SE Asia) ... how are the people of New Orleans and lower districts of New York ... still homeless ...

[givenall]

Then why ever morning at the American Embassy their are long lines of people who want to come to this country. Answer that. We must be doing something right.

Well some one should tell Thailand just go with China and forget the advantages US bring to you like the money, status, etc.......

[Wat dee]

Freedom of speech ... Funny how some things seem to be banned for criticism and free speech.

USA and Thailand are not that different. Most of the public is uneducated and easily controlled.

Both countries have problems with government, other can't afford to have one and the other is Thailand.

[gazzasore]

People miss the point here too

Its about the US Government Not the US People

The only problem is the US people have lost control of the US Government

[The stuttering parrot]

Speaking of horses.

There was this yank visiting an Aussie farm and he asks the farmer how big his farm is and the Aussie says around 1 million hectares.

The yank says well on my ranch you can ride from sun up to sunset for 3 days and not come to the end of it!

The Aussie says yeah I used to have a horse like that!

So get off you high horse!

[iphad]

I like the U.S. For all the factory outlet stores selling all the brand name stuff really cheap but then I guess I could have bought it all at the brand names source countries too. Made in Thailand you say?? OMG!

I buy more things " made in Thailand " than I do " made in Canada"