Prayuth tops people's choice as next PM

[Robby nz]

What a name! 2000 people ......what a poll!!!!

it would be nice to know what questions were asked in this poll band what names were put forward .... and which 15 provinces.

How do you know any names were put forward ?

Would seem far more likely the question was something like :

Who would be your preferred choice for the next PM.

With no names mentioned.

There would be bound to be some silly suggestions but I see Thai people as far more intelligent and politically aware than many (with superiority complex) on here like to believe.

[rubl]

WOw this poll can rival Kim Jong-il controlled media claiming he scored 11 holes in one over 18 holes in his first and only round of golf.

Wow, let's call the organisation of "Guinness Book of Records", we have a clear improvement for the item 'hyperbole' something long thought impossible. A clear thanks goes to TV member Eric Loh for this truly amazing feat.

In the mean time we'll ask the poll organisation if they couldn't erase the mention of the other people to be sure of our chance of an entry in the GBoR

Edited June 29, 2014 by rubl

[larsjohnsson]

Ha ha the poll was made by the Thai Research in Community Happiness Association

[rubl]

Thai Researchers in Community Happiness Association, TRICHA

in my life , i have never seen such an association

so...when are they going to create

Thai Researchers in farang Community Happiness Association, TRIFCHA

....i am interested in seeing the results.

Our own TV george is working on it.

Come to the opening of the ThaiVisa Forum Lounge coming Friday for the first results

[EBlair48]

BANGKOK: -- The Master Poll has found that junta chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha is on top of the people's choice, supported by 32.1 per cent of respondents, as the next prime minister.

Sounds like an overwhelming majority of the electorate.

Sounds like, sure because The Nation(alist)'s article is deliberately misleading no info is given about who was polled or how?

The Master Poll of the Thai Researchers in Community Happiness Association, TRICHA) was conducted among 2,087 people in 15 provinces from June 23 to 28.

Who are TRICHA? Part of the Army's propaganda unit? Who knows?

The Master Poll? Is that like the Master race ? What's next, a final solution?

[Roadman]

Well I don't think he should be interim PM.

After his retirement in September he should stay on as head of NCPO which would act as the main check and balance to the interim Government and the senate which should be reinstated as was.

Then he should join with, or create, a political party and contest the next general election as a constituency candidate with the understanding that if the party he stood for were elected he would become the elected PM.

That would bring everything under the democratic umbrella that only the usual few losers could complain about.

Perhaps by being interim PM for a year he could arse kick all ministry heads and other relevant groups into the toed line of democratic principles. Like running a model correctly so that when the elected politicians get to take it over again those all around the politicians will know, and have the support and mechanisms to blow the whistle if the said elected start trying to corrupt the system again.

[wilcopops]

Well I don't think he should be interim PM.

After his retirement in September he should stay on as head of NCPO which would act as the main check and balance to the interim Government and the senate which should be reinstated as was.

Then he should join with, or create, a political party and contest the next general election as a constituency candidate with the understanding that if the party he stood for were elected he would become the elected PM.

That would bring everything under the democratic umbrella that only the usual few losers could complain about.

Perhaps by being interim PM for a year he could arse kick all ministry heads and other relevant groups into the toed line of democratic principles. Like running a model correctly so that when the elected politicians get to take it over again those all around the politicians will know, and have the support and mechanisms to blow the whistle if the said elected start trying to corrupt the system again.

I don't see much evidence of his democratic credentials os far.

[Eric Loh]

Well I don't think he should be interim PM.

After his retirement in September he should stay on as head of NCPO which would act as the main check and balance to the interim Government and the senate which should be reinstated as was.

Then he should join with, or create, a political party and contest the next general election as a constituency candidate with the understanding that if the party he stood for were elected he would become the elected PM.

That would bring everything under the democratic umbrella that only the usual few losers could complain about.

Perhaps by being interim PM for a year he could arse kick all ministry heads and other relevant groups into the toed line of democratic principles. Like running a model correctly so that when the elected politicians get to take it over again those all around the politicians will know, and have the support and mechanisms to blow the whistle if the said elected start trying to corrupt the system again.

Not much of a model if you kick all the ministry heads and replace by all your own people from past coup government and Dem Party. Only good if the interim PM practice impartiality and meritocracy.

[wilcopops]

What a name! 2000 people ......what a poll!!!!

it would be nice to know what questions were asked in this poll band what names were put forward .... and which 15 provinces.

How do you know any names were put forward ?

Would seem far more likely the question was something like :

Who would be your preferred choice for the next PM.

With no names mentioned.

There would be bound to be some silly suggestions but I see Thai people as far more intelligent and politically aware than many (with superiority complex) on here like to believe.

I don't - and you don't know they weren't because there has been no explanation of how this poll was carried out or which provinces were polled.

[rubl]

Perhaps by being interim PM for a year he could arse kick all ministry heads and other relevant groups into the toed line of democratic principles. Like running a model correctly so that when the elected politicians get to take it over again those all around the politicians will know, and have the support and mechanisms to blow the whistle if the said elected start trying to corrupt the system again.

I don't see much evidence of his democratic credentials os far.

Ah, but then Gen. Prayuth is acting PM and mostly NCPO leader only. Still busy cleaning up the direct mess left after seven months of political bickering, violence against protesters and so.

If he'll be iPM starting with the 2014/2015 fiscal year, he'll have a cabinet and he'll be anxious to show he's only preparing the way for real democracy like (some) Western countries have. I won't mention any of them, for fear of being seen as biased

[nong38]

He is good bloke who has the thoughts of Thais and Thailand deep in his heart, I wish him well he is just what Thailand needs right now and lets hope there are more of a like mind to follow. People who put the country first and their bank balance second.

[pkspeaker]

this 'poll' is a bunch on bullshit!, everyone knows that if these people ran in an election Yingluck would win it easily against abhisit, prayuth and suthep.. the junta cannot avoid elections forever so we'll see who 'the people's choice' is..

[VegasVic]

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General Prayuth, YES YOU CAN...Go for it!

Jan, He has already gone for "IT" , he is the head of the military dictatorship that the Republic (I use that term lightly these days) of Thailand currently finds itself governed (I use this term lightly these days as well) by The real question is will there ever be free and fair elections in Thailand or will the military infuse itself in the government for good???

[Just1Voice]

Incorrect. That land sold at the going rate.

It was a public auction and the deal was in the press.

There was an auction with 3 bidders I recall. Shins and 2 of the big well known developers.

The 3 bids came in under reserve price and the land not sold.

They held another auction the Shins outbid.

I never saw a story about the price being rigged.

The spouse of the winning bidder is obligated to sign the documents and that's what they hung him on.

Recall the next PM was kicked out for being paid 10,000bt for appearing on a Sunday cooking show on TV.

A show he previously hosted for years called "cooking and Complaining.

Very entertaining jovial fellow.

But rules are rules and the stacked court threw him out too!

Technically, Thaksin is NOT guilty of "abuse of power" as stated by his conviction. Early last year the courts ruled the land purchase by his wife as "null & void". She had to give the land back, and got her money back, plus interest. Null & Void means that legally, IT NEVER HAPPENED, and all actions connected with it also never happened. So, how can he be guilty of something that, legally, never happened? He's a megalomaniac and I'm sure they've got plenty of shit to hang him on, but this one is B.S.

Technically a crime was committed even if the land and the money paid for it has been returned. With your reasoning any thief returning stolen money would get a lawyer to relate to this case in order to get of.

BTW our zigzagging man was a bit off with the Samak issue. I think the payments per show were just a measly 2 or 3000 Baht. Doesn't really matter though as the late Samak was not found guilty because of the amount he got, but found guilty because he lied about it. Furthermore as we all know ( ) Samak could have been re-elected as PM the same day, but the PPP sponsor was worried about Samak's too independent stance and 'suggested' the PPP MPs select his brother-in-law instead.

Nice try with the comparison of the thief and returning stolen money, but not the same. Nor do you apparently know much about the law. If a court rules something "null & void", it means that, legally, It Never Happened. So, according to the court, the whole land deal and auction Never Happened. It also means that all associations with it Never Happened. The case, legally, doesn't exist. With that being the Legal case, and statutes, then any connection Thaksin had with it, also Never Happened. No case, no conviction. Believe me, I'm definitely Not sticking up for Thaksin, as I think he's a piece of crap, but the law is very clear on things which have been deemed "null & void".

[wilcopops]

He is good bloke who has the thoughts of Thais and Thailand deep in his heart, I wish him well he is just what Thailand needs right now and lets hope there are more of a like mind to follow. People who put the country first and their bank balance second.

Who?

[tabs]

"Suthep Thaugsuban, secretary general of the People's Democratic Reform Committee, came third with 8.4 per cent of support and Democrat chief advisor came fourth with 8.1 per cent of support. "

Does this mean Suthep actually had 8.4 + 8.1 = 16.5% voting for him, or didn't the Nation know the name of the Democrats chief advisor?

They dropped the name.

Paragraph should read,

"Suthep Thaugsuban, secretary general of the People's Democratic Reform Committee, came third with 8.4 per cent of support and Democrat chief advisor Chuan Leekpai came fourth with 8.1 per cent of support."

[tabs]

Do people really have a choice? If they're against the military etc then they're not allowed to legally speak out about the main reasons why. Don't forget these things. Plus all the news is good news when the military controls the news.

In a poll you have a choice and in private one may tell about the reasoning for that choice. This poll seems to give results, no reasoning why people choose. As such it would not even be a real problem if the list of people mentioned would include Pol. Capt. Chalerm, k. Jatuporn, or even Thaksin himself.

The polled people could have chosen Chalerm, Jatuporn, or Thaksin, as the next PM, but they didn't.

[tabs]

The Master Poll has found that junta chief Gen Prayuth Chan-ocha is on top of the people's choice, supported by 32.1 per cent of respondents, as the next prime minister.

Great, let's have an election and make it official!

An election is coming soon enough.

[tabs]

Not so long ago he announced that all the world cup games would be shown live on Thai TV as part of returning the people's happiness. Brasil's game wasn't shown last night, neither was England's final game. I think it is a major PR mistake to promise something to the people and then not deliver. Stupid!!!

The Brazil game was shown, I watched it.

Is your TV made in North Korea?

That makes his last comment, self-directed.

[Trouble]

So the coup leader is the peoples' choice for PM. Of course this poll is questionable to say the least. Interesting to say the least whether the Thai people can be duped into thinking that a man who stages a coup can be the correct selection for PM. Might be interesting however to see the man have to declare his assets. Wonder how well he has hidden them? I know, it's all for the good of the country that he be pulled into politics. Wonder how many of HIS retired or soon to be retired army buddies he would bring into the government with him.

You could not make a soap opera better than this.

[tominbkk]

Do people really have a choice? If they're against the military etc then they're not allowed to legally speak out about the main reasons why. Don't forget these things. Plus all the news is good news when the military controls the news.

It's a bit like another revered institution here in Thailand that everyone is reputed to adore beyond all measure. The only problem is anything but adoration can get you locked up.

[heybruce]

So the coup leader is the peoples' choice for PM. Of course this poll is questionable to say the least. Interesting to say the least whether the Thai people can be duped into thinking that a man who stages a coup can be the correct selection for PM. Might be interesting however to see the man have to declare his assets. Wonder how well he has hidden them? I know, it's all for the good of the country that he be pulled into politics. Wonder how many of HIS retired or soon to be retired army buddies he would bring into the government with him.

You could not make a soap opera better than this.

A Thai general declare his assets? I'm sure they'll find a loophole to keep that from happening--they'll probably just point out that the old constitution no longer applies and the new constitution isn't in effect, so there's no requirement.

[smileydude]

Junta or faux electoral democracy?

Sometimes you have to pick the lesser of two evils

Some were fed up with the rampant corruption

Others with the stalemate

Puea Thai already had their chance and they screwed up

Time will show Prayuth's intentions

[heybruce]

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this 'poll' is a bunch on bullshit!, everyone knows that if these people ran in an election Yingluck would win it easily against abhisit, prayuth and suthep.. the junta cannot avoid elections forever so we'll see who 'the people's choice' is..

I wouldn't be so certain that the junta cannot elections forever. If a certain someone passes on then the military may decide that they will make this a permanent power grab

Actually I think the intent of the coup and the goal of the junta is to have the military in charge when that happens, and for long enough after to ensure that nothing important changes--in other words, afterwards the government can't touch the military but the military can topple the government at will. The military is very fond of this traditional form of government; it's much better to be the power behind the face of government than to be the face of government.

[heybruce]

Junta or faux electoral democracy?

Sometimes you have to pick the lesser of two evils

Some were fed up with the rampant corruption

Others with the stalemate

Puea Thai already had their chance and they screwed up

Time will show Prayuth's intentions

What if time show's Prayuth to be a screw up? How does Thailand get rid of him?

[doctorproc156]

I honestly don't understand how the Thai military with its absolutely atrocious human rights record and known corruption from the past is a viable alternative to the PTP. Are you guys really serious when you say this? I hope you are trolling.

[heybruce]

I honestly don't understand how the Thai military with its absolutely atrocious human rights record and known corruption from the past is a viable alternative to the PTP. Are you guys really serious when you say this? I hope you are trolling.

You must be new to this: There are many who think that since the PTP government was bad the coup must be good. There are even some enthusiasts who seem to think Prayuth walks on water.

[Chris Lawrence]

I think the poll was based on Bangkok going it alone. The rest of Thailand will have to look after itself?

This poll is a feeler; to see what is out there. Unfortunatly it may be the only way for Thailand to get back on track.

Suthep is on par with Mr T as to any past actions, plus is insolvent, plus has some major court cases to face? Abhisit didn't do much in his term and was responsible to fix the mitigation problems around Bangkok, which caused a major bite into GDP. Not sticking up for one side over the other but honestly can one say that this side is on the right track?

At the moment you have the army questioning the drilling of oil in a nature reserve area, where 10 days before at an army press conference saying that everything was OK.

A fellow I knew, ex-commander in the Oz Navy, went to a Malaysian party of high ranking armed services people. This was in the 80's. He said, 'you never no what graft and corruption is until you sit down with these guys'. I don't think much has changed.

If the poll settles your mind on a possible outcome, well it has worked.

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[bkkgooner]

2000 votes in 15 provinces I wonder if they left out any provinces in the north east?