Prayuth tops people's choice as next PM

[firestar]

Be nice. The same pics were in the Bangkok Post yesterday. We can't put a link here as they won't let us. But I'm sure you can find them on your own.

I saw them already, and similar ones in The Nation's paper edition yesterday. That the pictures aren't photoshopped is one thing, doesn't mean it isn't "fake". They also said it was all linked to Jakaprob and was the reason to revoke his passport. I find that just a little too convenient.

[rubl]

i think people are happy to give Prayuth as PM because when he came out many issues were resolved and he bring peace to us.

So that i agree with this poll to give Prayuth as PM

It's easy to get things done when you don't have to worry about checks and balances, elections, or laws. It's also worth noting that they've only tackled problems in the civilian sector, not in the military. Perhaps the Thai military is so corruption free and well-run there's no room for improvement.

Only five weeks and already the impatient start to wonder why the NCPO isn't finished yet. Plus some distractions.

No wonder Gen. Prayuth tops (some) people's choice as PM.

[Thaddeus]

i think people are happy to give Prayuth as PM because when he came out many issues were resolved and he bring peace to us.

So that i agree with this poll to give Prayuth as PM

You have rather low expectation and easy to please. Solving the low hanging fruits like airport, motor taxi mafias etc are not reasons we should hand the premiership to Prayuth. The KPI must first be a people charter followed by reconciliation of the people division, corruption and the economy. Those are the expectation for reason enough to stage a coup and reason enough to have him in the highest government position. At this moment, nothing of the KPI have been achieved and are still very much in the dark.

Always go for the low hanging fruit first, I wonder why PTP and the forces in their control never even managed to do that.

[bigbamboo]

People were asked who they wanted to be the next PM. Whilst 31 per cent isn't an overwhelming majority it wasn't a restricted list and it's more than double his nearest rival, Abhisit.

I think far more significant is that former PM Yingluck received a paltry 7 per cent and she was the best supported anti-coup figure.

The future is bright and it's certainly not red.

[ZigZagMan]

i think people are happy to give Prayuth as PM because when he came out many issues were resolved and he bring peace to us.

So that i agree with this poll to give Prayuth as PM

You have rather low expectation and easy to please. Solving the low hanging fruits like airport, motor taxi mafias etc are not reasons we should hand the premiership to Prayuth. The KPI must first be a people charter followed by reconciliation of the people division, corruption and the economy. Those are the expectation for reason enough to stage a coup and reason enough to have him in the highest government position. At this moment, nothing of the KPI have been achieved and are still very much in the dark.

Always go for the low hanging fruit first, I wonder why PTP and the forces in their control never even managed to do that.

And the drug war murders that Thaksin is regularly accused of. Why not look into that?

Very suspicious the Democrats didn't bother investigating.

[Eric Loh]

i think people are happy to give Prayuth as PM because when he came out many issues were resolved and he bring peace to us.

So that i agree with this poll to give Prayuth as PM

You have rather low expectation and easy to please. Solving the low hanging fruits like airport, motor taxi mafias etc are not reasons we should hand the premiership to Prayuth. The KPI must first be a people charter followed by reconciliation of the people division, corruption and the economy. Those are the expectation for reason enough to stage a coup and reason enough to have him in the highest government position. At this moment, nothing of the KPI have been achieved and are still very much in the dark.

Always go for the low hanging fruit first, I wonder why PTP and the forces in their control never even managed to do that.

Actually all these low hanging fruits have been done in the past but don't registered in people minds as much as what pro junta posters try to made a big deal. Motor taxi ? Done that in 2003 by Taksin. Illegal casino? Done that in 2012. Anyway, without interference, things move much faster, I admit.

[heybruce]

People were asked who they wanted to be the next PM. Whilst 31 per cent isn't an overwhelming majority it wasn't a restricted list and it's more than double his nearest rival, Abhisit.

I think far more significant is that former PM Yingluck received a paltry 7 per cent and she was the best supported anti-coup figure.

The future is bright and it's certainly not red.

Do you actually think this is a serious, valid poll?

[tullynagardy]

People were asked who they wanted to be the next PM. Whilst 31 per cent isn't an overwhelming majority it wasn't a restricted list and it's more than double his nearest rival, Abhisit.

I think far more significant is that former PM Yingluck received a paltry 7 per cent and she was the best supported anti-coup figure.

The future is bright and it's certainly not red.

Do you actually think this is a serious, valid poll?

The naivety of some of here is genuinely shocking at times.

When I see these posts (as most are retirees living in Issan and Pattaya) I often wonder how these people carved out a successful career to give them the pension they live off

[rubl]

have rather low expectation and easy to please. Solving the low hanging fruits like airport, motor taxi mafias etc are not reasons we should hand the premiership to Prayuth. The KPI must first be a people charter followed by reconciliation of the people division, corruption and the economy. Those are the expectation for reason enough to stage a coup and reason enough to have him in the highest government position. At this moment, nothing of the KPI have been achieved and are still very much in the dark.

Always go for the low hanging fruit first, I wonder why PTP and the forces in their control never even managed to do that.

Actually all these low hanging fruits have been done in the past but don't registered in people minds as much as what pro junta posters try to made a big deal. Motor taxi ? Done that in 2003 by Taksin. Illegal casino? Done that in 2012. Anyway, without interference, things move much faster, I admit.

Completely agree. Especially in Dept. PM Pol. Captain Chalerm the Yingluck government had a problem solver par excellence. No idea why the NCPO still thinks it needs to spent time solving problems. Phuket mafia? Handled by Chalerm. Drugs? Chalerm again,

[heybruce]

i think people are happy to give Prayuth as PM because when he came out many issues were resolved and he bring peace to us.

So that i agree with this poll to give Prayuth as PM

It's easy to get things done when you don't have to worry about checks and balances, elections, or laws. It's also worth noting that they've only tackled problems in the civilian sector, not in the military. Perhaps the Thai military is so corruption free and well-run there's no room for improvement.

Only five weeks and already the impatient start to wonder why the NCPO isn't finished yet. Plus some distractions.

No wonder Gen. Prayuth tops (some) people's choice as PM.

I assume you are referring to my comment that I underlined above. Do you seriously think the junta will reform the military?

Also, what distractions are you referring to? The junta controls everything in government, they don't have to worry about parliament, courts, elections, the constitution, etc. Any distractions they face are trivial compared to the distractions of running a democratic government.

But you are wrong, I'm not wondering why the NCPO isn't finished yet. They clearly intend to put a lot of effort into ensuring their vision of Thailand will be safe from democracy.

[rubl]

It's easy to get things done when you don't have to worry about checks and balances, elections, or laws. It's also worth noting that they've only tackled problems in the civilian sector, not in the military. Perhaps the Thai military is so corruption free and well-run there's no room for improvement.

Only five weeks and already the impatient start to wonder why the NCPO isn't finished yet. Plus some distractions.

No wonder Gen. Prayuth tops (some) people's choice as PM.

I assume you are referring to my comment that I underlined above. Do you seriously think the junta will reform the military?

Also, what distractions are you referring to? The junta controls everything in government, they don't have to worry about parliament, courts, elections, the constitution, etc. Any distractions they face are trivial compared to the distractions of running a democratic government.

But you are wrong, I'm not wondering why the NCPO isn't finished yet. They clearly intend to put a lot of effort into ensuring their vision of Thailand will be safe from democracy.

Do you really wonder why Prayuth is tops ?

BTW your impartiality starts to show some wear and tear. Maybe it's just the fear the Thaksin vision of Thailand will not come to fruit.

PS I already wrote that I stopped believing in Thai polls decades ago.

[JRSoul]

i think people are happy to give Prayuth as PM because when he came out many issues were resolved and he bring peace to us.

So that i agree with this poll to give Prayuth as PM

It's easy to get things done when you don't have to worry about checks and balances, elections, or laws. It's also worth noting that they've only tackled problems in the civilian sector, not in the military. Perhaps the Thai military is so corruption free and well-run there's no room for improvement.

PTP didn't worry about checks and balances or laws, though the cost of their populist policies needed to get them elected were ruinous. So why didn't they get things done?

Perhaps their priorities were more about their criminal leader than the country. After all, he got his passport back (illegally), reportedly a large amount of his money was returned, and more time was spent on his amnesty than any other project.

[heybruce]

It's easy to get things done when you don't have to worry about checks and balances, elections, or laws. It's also worth noting that they've only tackled problems in the civilian sector, not in the military. Perhaps the Thai military is so corruption free and well-run there's no room for improvement.

Only five weeks and already the impatient start to wonder why the NCPO isn't finished yet. Plus some distractions.

No wonder Gen. Prayuth tops (some) people's choice as PM.

I assume you are referring to my comment that I underlined above. Do you seriously think the junta will reform the military?

Also, what distractions are you referring to? The junta controls everything in government, they don't have to worry about parliament, courts, elections, the constitution, etc. Any distractions they face are trivial compared to the distractions of running a democratic government.

But you are wrong, I'm not wondering why the NCPO isn't finished yet. They clearly intend to put a lot of effort into ensuring their vision of Thailand will be safe from democracy.

Do you really wonder why Prayuth is tops ?

BTW your impartiality starts to show some wear and tear. Maybe it's just the fear the Thaksin vision of Thailand will not come to fruit.

PS I already wrote that I stopped believing in Thai polls decades ago.

You don't believe poll results but you accept poll results that show Prayuth is tops?

I have no concern for whatever Thaksin's vision of Thailand will be, I just prefer an imperfect democracy to a military dictatorship. Ideally the democracy would operate under a constitution that wasn't written at the direction of a military government, but unfortunately Thailand doesn't have that in the cards for the foreseeable future.

[heybruce]

i think people are happy to give Prayuth as PM because when he came out many issues were resolved and he bring peace to us.

So that i agree with this poll to give Prayuth as PM

It's easy to get things done when you don't have to worry about checks and balances, elections, or laws. It's also worth noting that they've only tackled problems in the civilian sector, not in the military. Perhaps the Thai military is so corruption free and well-run there's no room for improvement.

PTP didn't worry about checks and balances or laws, though the cost of their populist policies needed to get them elected were ruinous. So why didn't they get things done?

Perhaps their priorities were more about their criminal leader than the country. After all, he got his passport back (illegally), reportedly a large amount of his money was returned, and more time was spent on his amnesty than any other project.

"So why didn't they get things done?"

Obviously because they had to abide by some checks, balances and laws. Otherwise Thaksin would have been pardoned, the Senate would have been made fully elected, Suthep would have been arrested as soon as he overstepped the bounds of peaceful legal protest, and many other things. The PTP couldn't rule by decree, backed-up with the threat of military force against any opposition. The NCPO can and does.

[rubl]

Do you really wonder why Prayuth is tops ?

BTW your impartiality starts to show some wear and tear. Maybe it's just the fear the Thaksin vision of Thailand will not come to fruit.

PS I already wrote that I stopped believing in Thai polls decades ago.

You don't believe poll results but you accept poll results that show Prayuth is tops?

I have no concern for whatever Thaksin's vision of Thailand will be, I just prefer an imperfect democracy to a military dictatorship. Ideally the democracy would operate under a constitution that wasn't written at the direction of a military government, but unfortunately Thailand doesn't have that in the cards for the foreseeable future.

I just refer to the topic which is "Prayuth tops people's choice"

BTW lots of people would prefer a functioning democracy over a military dictatorship. Luckily we now have a military NCPO which functions better than the undemocratic government which simply clang to power at whatever means it would seem.

So, let's have another poll to check how Thai feel about the form of democracy a few posters would visit on them, led by those shiny examples of democracy and fairness we have so many of in the Thaksin thinks Pheu Thai acting party.

[rubl]

It's easy to get things done when you don't have to worry about checks and balances, elections, or laws. It's also worth noting that they've only tackled problems in the civilian sector, not in the military. Perhaps the Thai military is so corruption free and well-run there's no room for improvement.

PTP didn't worry about checks and balances or laws, though the cost of their populist policies needed to get them elected were ruinous. So why didn't they get things done?

Perhaps their priorities were more about their criminal leader than the country. After all, he got his passport back (illegally), reportedly a large amount of his money was returned, and more time was spent on his amnesty than any other project.

"So why didn't they get things done?"

Obviously because they had to abide by some checks, balances and laws. Otherwise Thaksin would have been pardoned, the Senate would have been made fully elected, Suthep would have been arrested as soon as he overstepped the bounds of peaceful legal protest, and many other things. The PTP couldn't rule by decree, backed-up with the threat of military force against any opposition. The NCPO can and does.

Actually by "getting things done' I would think about 'for the country and all Thais', not just for Thaksin.

That's one reason why Gen. Prayuth may actually be tops as he and his NCPO are seen to clean up the mess left by politicians in general and Thaksin's Yingluck's Pheu Thai government in particular.

Edited July 1, 2014 by rubl

[ZigZagMan]

It's easy to get things done when you don't have to worry about checks and balances, elections, or laws. It's also worth noting that they've only tackled problems in the civilian sector, not in the military. Perhaps the Thai military is so corruption free and well-run there's no room for improvement.

PTP didn't worry about checks and balances or laws, though the cost of their populist policies needed to get them elected were ruinous. So why didn't they get things done?

Perhaps their priorities were more about their criminal leader than the country. After all, he got his passport back (illegally), reportedly a large amount of his money was returned, and more time was spent on his amnesty than any other project.

"So why didn't they get things done?"

Obviously because they had to abide by some checks, balances and laws. Otherwise Thaksin would have been pardoned, the Senate would have been made fully elected, Suthep would have been arrested as soon as he overstepped the bounds of peaceful legal protest, and many other things. The PTP couldn't rule by decree, backed-up with the threat of military force against any opposition. The NCPO can and does.

Actually by "getting things done' I would think about 'for the country and all Thais', not just for Thaksin.

That's one reason why Gen. Prayuth may actually be tops as he and his NCPO are seen to clean up the mess left by politicians in general and Thaksin's Yingluck's Pheu Thai government in particular.

The mess left by Yingluck?

According to Suthep, they were plotting to get rid of her before her first day on the job.

[rubl]

PTP didn't worry about checks and balances or laws, though the cost of their populist policies needed to get them elected were ruinous. So why didn't they get things done?

Perhaps their priorities were more about their criminal leader than the country. After all, he got his passport back (illegally), reportedly a large amount of his money was returned, and more time was spent on his amnesty than any other project.

"So why didn't they get things done?"

Obviously because they had to abide by some checks, balances and laws. Otherwise Thaksin would have been pardoned, the Senate would have been made fully elected, Suthep would have been arrested as soon as he overstepped the bounds of peaceful legal protest, and many other things. The PTP couldn't rule by decree, backed-up with the threat of military force against any opposition. The NCPO can and does.

Actually by "getting things done' I would think about 'for the country and all Thais', not just for Thaksin.

That's one reason why Gen. Prayuth may actually be tops as he and his NCPO are seen to clean up the mess left by politicians in general and Thaksin's Yingluck's Pheu Thai government in particular.

The mess left by Yingluck?

According to Suthep, they were plotting to get rid of her before her first day on the job.

I'm really touched you zigzagging rapidly to the defense of Brucy. Especially when related to getting things done for Thaksin.

Plus of course I"m totally puzzled by people suddenly believing all politicians in general and such famous ones as Suthep tell them

[philw]

i think people are happy to give Prayuth as PM because when he came out many issues were resolved and he bring peace to us.

So that i agree with this poll to give Prayuth as PM

It's easy to get things done when you don't have to worry about checks and balances, elections, or laws. It's also worth noting that they've only tackled problems in the civilian sector, not in the military. Perhaps the Thai military is so corruption free and well-run there's no room for improvement.

PTP didn't worry about checks and balances or laws, though the cost of their populist policies needed to get them elected were ruinous. So why didn't they get things done?

Perhaps their priorities were more about their criminal leader than the country. After all, he got his passport back (illegally), reportedly a large amount of his money was returned, and more time was spent on his amnesty than any other project.

I don't want to be boring but can you substantiate any of this ??

You know, any of it ??

[heybruce]

Do you really wonder why Prayuth is tops ?

BTW your impartiality starts to show some wear and tear. Maybe it's just the fear the Thaksin vision of Thailand will not come to fruit.

PS I already wrote that I stopped believing in Thai polls decades ago.

You don't believe poll results but you accept poll results that show Prayuth is tops?

I have no concern for whatever Thaksin's vision of Thailand will be, I just prefer an imperfect democracy to a military dictatorship. Ideally the democracy would operate under a constitution that wasn't written at the direction of a military government, but unfortunately Thailand doesn't have that in the cards for the foreseeable future.

I just refer to the topic which is "Prayuth tops people's choice"

BTW lots of people would prefer a functioning democracy over a military dictatorship. Luckily we now have a military NCPO which functions better than the undemocratic government which simply clang to power at whatever means it would seem.

So, let's have another poll to check how Thai feel about the form of democracy a few posters would visit on them, led by those shiny examples of democracy and fairness we have so many of in the Thaksin thinks Pheu Thai acting party.

"the undemocratic government which simply clang to power at whatever means it would seem."

The only means I can recall were elections.

Your final sentence is somewhat confusing, so I'll just address the first part:

"So, let's have another poll to check how Thai feel about the form of democracy..."

Why not an election instead of a poll?

So, let's have another poll to check how Thai feel about the form of democracy

[ZigZagMan]

The mess left by Yingluck?

According to Suthep, they were plotting to get rid of her before her first day on the job.

I'm really touched you zigzagging rapidly to the defense of Brucy. Especially when related to getting things done for Thaksin.

Plus of course I"m totally puzzled by people suddenly believing all politicians in general and such famous ones as Suthep tell them

You can't draw me into talking the facts.

That would be illegal.

[rubl]

You don't believe poll results but you accept poll results that show Prayuth is tops?

I have no concern for whatever Thaksin's vision of Thailand will be, I just prefer an imperfect democracy to a military dictatorship. Ideally the democracy would operate under a constitution that wasn't written at the direction of a military government, but unfortunately Thailand doesn't have that in the cards for the foreseeable future.

I just refer to the topic which is "Prayuth tops people's choice"

BTW lots of people would prefer a functioning democracy over a military dictatorship. Luckily we now have a military NCPO which functions better than the undemocratic government which simply clang to power at whatever means it would seem.

So, let's have another poll to check how Thai feel about the form of democracy a few posters would visit on them, led by those shiny examples of democracy and fairness we have so many of in the Thaksin thinks Pheu Thai acting party.

"the undemocratic government which simply clang to power at whatever means it would seem."

The only means I can recall were elections.

Your final sentence is somewhat confusing, so I'll just address the first part:

"So, let's have another poll to check how Thai feel about the form of democracy..."

Why not an election instead of a poll?

So, let's have another poll to check how Thai feel about the form of democracy

Oh boy (or should that be 'hey bruce' ?), elections. That what the Yingluck government tried to push through, like their shiny example Thaksin in 2006. Emergency Decree necessary, no problem. We want elections to get ride of those pesky anti-government protesters who still stay on even while suffering from near nightly cowardly attacks. We can produce another mandate, say "thank you, go home now' and push through that blanket amnesty bill which absolves even Thaksin's last two years in/out of office and Yingluck's first two.

Anyway, the issue here is a poll, the results of which will lead to reconciliation as all (those for and those against) are united in agreeing polls is Thailand are close to <deleted>

[rubl]

The mess left by Yingluck?

According to Suthep, they were plotting to get rid of her before her first day on the job.

I'm really touched you zigzagging rapidly to the defense of Brucy. Especially when related to getting things done for Thaksin.

Plus of course I"m totally puzzled by people suddenly believing all politicians in general and such famous ones as Suthep tell them

You can't draw me into talking the facts.

That would be illegal.

A wonder, reconciliation between the zgizagging man and uncle rubl! We agree on something!

I can't draw you into talking facts

[bigbamboo]

People were asked who they wanted to be the next PM. Whilst 31 per cent isn't an overwhelming majority it wasn't a restricted list and it's more than double his nearest rival, Abhisit.

I think far more significant is that former PM Yingluck received a paltry 7 per cent and she was the best supported anti-coup figure.

The future is bright and it's certainly not red.

Do you actually think this is a serious, valid poll?

Do you actually know it isn't?

[heybruce]

You don't believe poll results but you accept poll results that show Prayuth is tops?

I have no concern for whatever Thaksin's vision of Thailand will be, I just prefer an imperfect democracy to a military dictatorship. Ideally the democracy would operate under a constitution that wasn't written at the direction of a military government, but unfortunately Thailand doesn't have that in the cards for the foreseeable future.

I just refer to the topic which is "Prayuth tops people's choice"

BTW lots of people would prefer a functioning democracy over a military dictatorship. Luckily we now have a military NCPO which functions better than the undemocratic government which simply clang to power at whatever means it would seem.

So, let's have another poll to check how Thai feel about the form of democracy a few posters would visit on them, led by those shiny examples of democracy and fairness we have so many of in the Thaksin thinks Pheu Thai acting party.

"the undemocratic government which simply clang to power at whatever means it would seem."

The only means I can recall were elections.

Your final sentence is somewhat confusing, so I'll just address the first part:

"So, let's have another poll to check how Thai feel about the form of democracy..."

Why not an election instead of a poll?

So, let's have another poll to check how Thai feel about the form of democracy

Oh boy (or should that be 'hey bruce' ?), elections. That what the Yingluck government tried to push through, like their shiny example Thaksin in 2006. Emergency Decree necessary, no problem. We want elections to get ride of those pesky anti-government protesters who still stay on even while suffering from near nightly cowardly attacks. We can produce another mandate, say "thank you, go home now' and push through that blanket amnesty bill which absolves even Thaksin's last two years in/out of office and Yingluck's first two.

Anyway, the issue here is a poll, the results of which will lead to reconciliation as all (those for and those against) are united in agreeing polls is Thailand are close to <deleted>

Yes, those pesky elections; the past ones monitored, declared legitimate, and never proven otherwise. That annoying way to find out what kind of government the Thai people want. After all their outrageous acts the PTP had the audacity to call another election so the people could pass judgment on them. Well I'm sure the voters will show them....oh no, they can't can they?

But you're correct, the issue here is a poll that you don't believe. Refresh my memory, what's your point beyond not trusting the poll?

[heybruce]

People were asked who they wanted to be the next PM. Whilst 31 per cent isn't an overwhelming majority it wasn't a restricted list and it's more than double his nearest rival, Abhisit.

I think far more significant is that former PM Yingluck received a paltry 7 per cent and she was the best supported anti-coup figure.

The future is bright and it's certainly not red.

Do you actually think this is a serious, valid poll?

Do you actually know it isn't?

Some people need to have things made very clear to them. This poll was conducted by the Thai Researchers in Community Happiness. It's clearly a NCPO shill. Would you believe a McDonald's poll that showed that people rank McDonald's hamburgers as the best? Or a PTP poll showing the majority of Thais oppose the coup?

[bigbamboo]

People were asked who they wanted to be the next PM. Whilst 31 per cent isn't an overwhelming majority it wasn't a restricted list and it's more than double his nearest rival, Abhisit.

I think far more significant is that former PM Yingluck received a paltry 7 per cent and she was the best supported anti-coup figure.

The future is bright and it's certainly not red.

Do you actually think this is a serious, valid poll?

Do you actually know it isn't?

Some people need to have things made very clear to them. This poll was conducted by the Thai Researchers in Community Happiness. It's clearly a NCPO shill. Would you believe a McDonald's poll that showed that people rank McDonald's hamburgers as the best? Or a PTP poll showing the majority of Thais oppose the coup?

Well one thing is abundantly clear. Since the coup the people seem to be a lot happier than they were before, even in Chiang Mai.

[JRSoul]

Some people need to have things made very clear to them. This poll was conducted by the Thai Researchers in Community Happiness. It's clearly a NCPO shill. Would you believe a McDonald's poll that showed that people rank McDonald's hamburgers as the best? Or a PTP poll showing the majority of Thais oppose the coup?

Well one thing is abundantly clear. Since the coup the people seem to be a lot happier than they were before, even in Chiang Mai.

IMHO that is because the "political" criminals plaguing them have had their immunity from prosecution removed.

[heybruce]

Do you actually think this is a serious, valid poll?

Do you actually know it isn't?

Some people need to have things made very clear to them. This poll was conducted by the Thai Researchers in Community Happiness. It's clearly a NCPO shill. Would you believe a McDonald's poll that showed that people rank McDonald's hamburgers as the best? Or a PTP poll showing the majority of Thais oppose the coup?

Well one thing is abundantly clear. Since the coup the people seem to be a lot happier than they were before, even in Chiang Mai.

Did you do a poll? Probably not, a poll that might give results contrary to what the junta wants reported would be risky. I assume it is "abundantly clear" based on what you want to believe, perhaps confirmed by discussions with people you know to share your views.

Edited July 1, 2014 by heybruce

[rubl]

I just refer to the topic which is "Prayuth tops people's choice"

BTW lots of people would prefer a functioning democracy over a military dictatorship. Luckily we now have a military NCPO which functions better than the undemocratic government which simply clang to power at whatever means it would seem.

So, let's have another poll to check how Thai feel about the form of democracy a few posters would visit on them, led by those shiny examples of democracy and fairness we have so many of in the Thaksin thinks Pheu Thai acting party.

"the undemocratic government which simply clang to power at whatever means it would seem."

The only means I can recall were elections.

Your final sentence is somewhat confusing, so I'll just address the first part:

"So, let's have another poll to check how Thai feel about the form of democracy..."

Why not an election instead of a poll?

So, let's have another poll to check how Thai feel about the form of democracy

Oh boy (or should that be 'hey bruce' ?), elections. That what the Yingluck government tried to push through, like their shiny example Thaksin in 2006. Emergency Decree necessary, no problem. We want elections to get ride of those pesky anti-government protesters who still stay on even while suffering from near nightly cowardly attacks. We can produce another mandate, say "thank you, go home now' and push through that blanket amnesty bill which absolves even Thaksin's last two years in/out of office and Yingluck's first two.

Anyway, the issue here is a poll, the results of which will lead to reconciliation as all (those for and those against) are united in agreeing polls is Thailand are close to <deleted>

Yes, those pesky elections; the past ones monitored, declared legitimate, and never proven otherwise. That annoying way to find out what kind of government the Thai people want. After all their outrageous acts the PTP had the audacity to call another election so the people could pass judgment on them. Well I'm sure the voters will show them....oh no, they can't can they?

But you're correct, the issue here is a poll that you don't believe. Refresh my memory, what's your point beyond not trusting the poll?

'Not believing polls in Thailand have much merit' would be a better description.

The point beyond is simply that all non poll related remarks here seemed aimed at having a shot at the NCPO and (by the way) suggest that the Yingluck administration wasn't really so bad.

Now the last is something I don't believe either, but then what would you expect from a wondering type who doesn't believe in polls in Thailand even when conducted under a military 'government'

Edited July 2, 2014 by rubl