Bad rice and loss of stock discovered

[Lite Beer]

Bad rice and loss of stock discovered
The Nation

Officials and soldiers inspect a warehouse containing a stock of government rice in Phichit province yesterday. While the inspection confirmed the quantity reported, doubts still linger about the quality of some of the rice.

BANGKOK: -- Decaying rice, loss of stock and disorderly stacking of sacks has been found at several government and private warehouses in military-supervised inspections of rice.

This was in line with a nationwide investigation into corruption in the rice-pledging scheme initiated by the Yingluck Shinawatra government, PM's Office permanent secretary ML Panadda Diskul said yesterday.

Officials found involved in stock going missing or other wrongdoing would face immediate transfer and serious disciplinary probes, after checks by more than 100 teams of government and military-appointed inspectors are done in a month's time, Office of Public Sector Anti-corruption Commission secretary-general Prayong Preeyajit said.

Panadda said scientific checks such as DNA tests of the entire rice stock - millions of tonnes - would also be conducted, but these may take until September before a complete set of evidence is revealed against any wrongdoers.

Warehouse bosses 'accountable'

The amount of rice in good quality and where it is stored would be reported to the Commerce Ministry for future sale to interested buyers.

"The warehouses with decaying rice or loss of stock will be held responsible," said Panadda, who is overseeing the overall military-supervised inspection effort.

In Sukhothai, inspections were conducted at two warehouses where a large number of irregularities were found, before inspections at other warehouses were called off so that inspectors could be better prepared.

Disorderly stacking of rice sacks had been found, which was not common. Actual running numbers of sacks were inaccurate and different from those indicated in official lists, according to civilian and military officials in neighbouring Phitsanulok who conducted the inspections.

There are 15 rice warehouses in Sukhothai, containing 2,542,010 sacks, or 2,542 tonnes. The inspectors expect to complete the count by July 25, and another month to determine and report the quality of seeds.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Bad-rice-and-loss-of-stock-discovered-30237782.html

-- The Nation 2014-07-05

[clockman]

No shocks there!

[chainarong]

Keep looking , it may be tedious but the end result could put some shonky characters into the limelight , for all the wrong reasons.

[Living in a cartoon]

What is the Thai expression? Something like "Don't break my rice bowl"?

This is getting very interesting...I can hear the sphincters tightening, and the rice bowls shattering.

[timewilltell]

When Thailand gets serious about corruption officials involved in corruption will be sacked without pension rights, refused any future job in local or national administration, instead of 'transferred'

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[Living in a cartoon]

No, their ill-gotten assets, AKA "unusual wealth", confiscated. Do you think any of these fellows need a job or a pension?

[khwaibah]

Not rocket science..

[ezzra]

No doubt the rort is very deep rooted and involved many people in all levels,

the question is, what are they going to do with all that information?

are they going to prosecute them all? I don't think there are enough judges and

enough jail cells to deal with all of them...

[BSJ]

"Officials found involved in stock going missing or other wrongdoing would face immediate transfer and serious disciplinary probes" Why? Aren't criminal charges more appropriate and being held without bail the wise thing to do considering the risk of many of the accused absconding.

[FangFerang]

It was just TOO easy to write vouchers for more rice than was received and then take a kick back for vouchers written.

I think it will be a case of fraud, theft of public money, and then loan sharking to the farmers while they waited to get paid.

[londonthai]

in the bangkok post yesterday article states that on 235000 tons already inspected, they have found 22 tons missing, that's some 0.009%

some more of a political propaganda, than anything of substance.

keep digging those empty boxes which beforehand you hided under the full sacks of rice, it looks good on camera, when inspectors know exactly where those empty boxes are. The story goes they use gt 200 bomb detectors fitted with rice card, that's why

Edited July 5, 2014 by londonthai

[rakman]

I'm wondering what's behind the (curtain) wall of sacks.

[shirtless]

If found guilty its fraud , its criminal , and the culprits need to face criminal charges, asset confiscation and jail time , Hisos or not they are stealing from every Thai person.

[Pib]

This is just the tip of the riceburg.

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[h90]

"Officials found involved in stock going missing or other wrongdoing would face immediate transfer and serious disciplinary probes" Why? Aren't criminal charges more appropriate and being held without bail the wise thing to do considering the risk of many of the accused absconding.

And first freeze of the bank accounts.....

[Rykbanlor]

Disorderely stacking of rice sacks! Noooooooo!

[ozterix]

Not sure I understand the math...

"There are 15 rice warehouses in Sukhothai, containing 2,542,010 sacks, or 2,542 tonnes."

is this a warehouse or a retail shop? 2,542 tonnes = 2,542,000 kgs... in 2,542,010 bags of 1Kg??

How can you trust such bad reporting when they can't even understand basic arithmetic...

oz

[WhizBang]

When Thailand gets serious about corruption officials involved in corruption will be sacked without pension rights, refused any future job in local or national administration, instead of 'transferred'

No. Instead, how about confiscating their assets, fines and handing them jail time.

[londonthai]

Not sure I understand the math...

"There are 15 rice warehouses in Sukhothai, containing 2,542,010 sacks, or 2,542 tonnes."

is this a warehouse or a retail shop? 2,542 tonnes = 2,542,000 kgs... in 2,542,010 bags of 1Kg??

How can you trust such bad reporting when they can't even understand basic arithmetic...

oz

bags are minimum 50kg. I have seen on pictures also mega-bags, around 500kg

[sfokevin]

I am shocked...

[Robby nz]

This was in line with a nationwide investigation into corruption in the rice-pledging scheme initiated by the Yingluck Shinawatra government, PM's Office permanent secretary ML Panadda Diskul said yesterday.

So it would seem that these inspections were started by the Yingluck Govt and they deserve any credit for discovering any corruption.

Officials found involved in stock going missing or other wrongdoing would face immediate transfer and serious disciplinary probes

However

Warehouse bosses 'accountable'

And we will do everything in our power to keep it down to that level.

I see no mention of politicians being held accountable for there part.

Could it be that Khun Panadda still hasn't quite got a handle on who his new boss is ?

[cooked]

Disorderely stacking of rice sacks! Noooooooo!

So you didn't pick up on the fact that some of these apparently huge piles were hollow?

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[gemguy]

No doubt the rort is very deep rooted and involved many people in all levels,

the question is, what are they going to do with all that information?

are they going to prosecute them all? I don't think there are enough judges and

enough jail cells to deal with all of them...

Thailand being Thailand ...I surmise the whole affair will straighten out for awhile ( how long, who knows??? ) and then sooner or later it will run amuck once again while various officials involved ( military personal and their appointees ) will soon enough realize various ways to once again corrupt the whole affair and profit from their involvement....as the amount of money involved is , shall we say...a very influential factor.

[gemguy]

When Thailand gets serious about corruption officials involved in corruption will be sacked without pension rights, refused any future job in local or national administration, instead of 'transferred'

No. Instead, how about confiscating their assets, fines and handing them jail time.

That would be fair enough by anyone's standards.

But the money involved is more than enough to be influential so the money will be spread around while the prosecution efforts slowly fade away and no one goes to jail expect the scapegoats and usual suspects.

[djjamie]

in the bangkok post yesterday article states that on 235000 tons already inspected, they have found 22 tons missing, that's some 0.009%

some more of a political propaganda, than anything of substance.

keep digging those empty boxes which beforehand you hided under the full sacks of rice, it looks good on camera, when inspectors know exactly where those empty boxes are. The story goes they use gt 200 bomb detectors fitted with rice card, that's why

in the bangkok post yesterday article states that on 235000 tons already inspected, they have found 22 tons missing, that's some 0.009%

In the Bangkok post a few months ago it stated that of all the rice inspected by the PTP they said none was missing. Thats some 0.0000000000%

As I said before small + small + small = A lot. Nothing + nothing + nothing = Nothing.

Every single weapons find was denounced as a tiny little find and just propaganda. For starters the PTP found nothing ( there is that word again that is synonyms with the PTP ) in 7 months and all the tiny little weapons finds by the Junta over the past 40 days added up to be 10% of all weapons finds over a 14 year period. That's a lot of tiny little weapons finds heay!!

Did the PTP say any rice was missing? Did the PWO say there was any rice missing? Did the Commerce Ministry say there was any rice missing? No. They all said there was absolutely no rice missing and came up with 2 different excuses for the irregularities in 1 month.

So in other words the the 22 tons yesterday and the 91 tons the other day adds up to the PTP lying.

But of course we won't dwell on the fact the Junta have been 100% more successful in finding the irregularities and showing the PTP how an actual investigation is performed transparently and honestly.

Edited July 5, 2014 by djjamie

[Mudlover]

This was in line with a nationwide investigation into corruption in the rice-pledging scheme initiated by the Yingluck Shinawatra government, PM's Office permanent secretary ML Panadda Diskul said yesterday.

So it would seem that these inspections were started by the Yingluck Govt and they deserve any credit for discovering any corruption.

I believe the OP states that the rice-pledging scheme was started by the Yingluck govt, not the nationwide investigation.

[iReason]

"Officials found involved in stock going missing or other wrongdoing would face immediate transfer and serious disciplinary probes,"

Transfers, "inactive" posts, probes...

Don't they ever fire anyone in this country?

And then jail them.

[Thai at Heart]

2,542,010 sacks, or 2,542 tonnes.

Glad to see that the nation has got its maths hat on today.

And I am curious what they would have had a warehouse man do if the quality is deterioriating in the storage? Break down all the stacks to air them out and restack them.

And where precisely n does one magically obtain space in a building stacked to the rafters to do this.

This is day two or three and.already they apparently need more time to be able to decipher the actual size and quantity of the stacks.

Edited July 5, 2014 by Thai at Heart

[timewilltell]

When Thailand gets serious about corruption officials involved in corruption will be sacked without pension rights, refused any future job in local or national administration, instead of 'transferred'

No. Instead, how about confiscating their assets, fines and handing them jail time.

You are right - how about all of the above?

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[Cake Monster]

The warehouse operatives will be responsible for that then.

They have a family with 12 kids and took some to feed them, plus a little extra to buy some Lao-Kao.

Thats where the missing rice has gone

And oh yeah, the discoloured rice will be where they peed on it after drinking the whisky.

Tongue in cheek