rgs2001uk Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Here is a prime example of these leeches, https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jobless-couple-demand-bigger-council-house-because-mother-is--really-fertile--and-can-t-help-getting-pregnant-131232054.html#oRKa3bE Off topic, I have no problem with such families, the government would only fritter the money away in foreign aid to somalia (or some such boondoggle). Good luck to those who can manage to live off their government, is what I say. Of course you have no problem with them, for the simple reason you aint living in the UK paying taxes to support them. Cant wait for all the smart people to wake one day and dissapear, the "brain drain" I believe they call it and leave in droves. One of the reasons my cousin closed his UK business and relocated to Dubai. One of the reasons the company I was involved with sold up without an IPO and relocated to America with "golden handcuffs". Never mind "the rich get richer, the poor get the picture" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatJ Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Choosing the needs of children's education over parents desire to be in Thailand is almost always the right decision. Even the very best international schools in Thailand barely hold up against the better state schools in the UK, not simply on the grounds of educational standards, but also on a range of social and personal development issues too. You are wrong about the top international schools here - they are far far better than state schools in UK on average. Sure there are a handful of outstanding state schools in uk that are better but it's a moot point since you would not be able to get a place in one of them in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatJ Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 The expat scene is changing that's all. Thailand is going down the path of Hong Kong and Singapore where highly educated specialist expats mostly sent by their companies on assignment to those countries are welcome but where there is no need for those who fall outside this (apart from some highly qualified English teachers who also are mostly recruited from abroad). Now expat life in Singapore and Hong Kong is fantastic - perfect for families, great schools, great night life, amenities etc. So if that's where Thailand is headed rest assured the expats who remain in Thailand will be having the time of their lives Sent from my SM-N900 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vtjforyou Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I don't see that the future for non-Asian foreigners in Thailand will be good at all. Any of them. Got a couple of white foreigner pals in CM, been here a long time, nationwide business, $$$$s turnover, totally legit. They just had a problem renewing their VISA and WP a couple of weeks back. Never happened to them before. What surprised me most is the way they started treating Koreans! With a lot of money our future is good anywhere <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuestHouse Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Choosing the needs of children's education over parents desire to be in Thailand is almost always the right decision. Even the very best international schools in Thailand barely hold up against the better state schools in the UK, not simply on the grounds of educational standards, but also on a range of social and personal development issues too. You are wrong about the top international schools here - they are far far better than state schools in UK on average. Sure there are a handful of outstanding state schools in uk that are better but it's a moot point since you would not be able to get a place in one of them in practice. I always think it advisable to not look at what people say, rather look at what they do. You can take this as the truth, which it is, or you can deny it if doing so fits your preconceptions - Up2U. I have two children, I can afford to have them educated privately, when they were in Thailand my employers picked up the bill for any private school we might choose. We chose to have our children educated in UK State Schools - We chose not to have our children educated in the best private schools Thailand can offer. We are absolutely certain we made the right choice. Our eldest is now studying at what is unquestionably one of the UK's top universities, the youngest is doing well and we expect will get the grades for an equally ranked university. We did not bat an eyelid moving our children back to the UK State Education System - Happy to put our own children where our principles are and delighted to see the positive results, not just in their academic achievement but in their social and personal development. The child sitting next to my child in next year's A level exams will pass or fail on their performance in the exam - not on the basis of who their father is - and pass or fail for that child or my child will be accepted as a result of effort with no expectation that a pass is the predetermined result of having paid the school fees. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Choosing the needs of children's education over parents desire to be in Thailand is almost always the right decision. Even the very best international schools in Thailand barely hold up against the better state schools in the UK, not simply on the grounds of educational standards, but also on a range of social and personal development issues too. That's OK for now, but the way the UK is going, and by the time the children are adults, the country will be well on the way to being under the control of people of a certain faith. If Thailand can just sort a few things out with the help of the general, the country can get better. At least the Thais look after their own first, something the UK have never done. It's just a pity that the education is so poor here. I think that is about the only thing the UK have ahead of Thailand. also, the corruption is even worse from the UK government than it was in Thailand. For phugz sake why does any discussion of the UK always seem to come back to immigrants or religion-based paranoia with you? You can sit here and fight the Thais' corner all you bloody well like but until such time as you jump through the hoops that Thai immigration lay out for you for PR or citizenship, you will never - I repeat, NEVER - have the right of abode here and, as such, you're just as vulnerable as everyone else to the whims of the immigration officer or clerk on duty on the day you wanna re-enter the kingdom or renew whatever visa/extension you're here on. Yes, the UK has its problems but guess what, if and when Thai immigration decides to piss on your cornflakes, Mother England will be there with open arms to clutch you to her bosom Stop being such an ingrate I really can't understand why people go on about getting citizenship being hard. If you are married to a Thai and work it's easier than many countries. I would prefer my kids to go to a mid range EP program in Thailand than throw away everything I have here just so they can get a degree and work in McDonalds. What if they dropped out of school when they are 15? Stay here and let them be my pension plan, rather than move to the Uk, where we'd have to work our <deleted> off and still be skint at the end of the month after living in a box eating in every night. I plan on sending my kids to get a degree abroad then they can choose themselves. I see some friends who seem to think they are their kids' entertainment manager and are the priority in their life. Sorry kids not me - I'll provide the best I can where I am happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuestHouse Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I really can't understand why people go on about getting citizenship being hard. If you are married to a Thai and work it's easier than many countries. I would prefer my kids to go to a mid range EP program in Thailand than throw away everything I have here just so they can get a degree and work in McDonalds. What if they dropped out of school when they are 15? Stay here and let them be my pension plan, rather than move to the Uk, where we'd have to work our <deleted> off and still be skint at the end of the month after living in a box eating in every night. I plan on sending my kids to get a degree abroad then they can choose themselves. I see some friends who seem to think they are their kids' entertainment manager and are the priority in their life. Sorry kids not me - I'll provide the best I can where I am happy. Nuff said 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) I don't see that the future for non-Asian foreigners in Thailand will be good at all. Any of them. Got a couple of white foreigner pals in CM, been here a long time, nationwide business, $$$$s turnover, totally legit. They just had a problem renewing their VISA and WP a couple of weeks back. Never happened to them before. What surprised me most is the way they started treating Koreans! Care to share with us these problems they had? As for the OP I certainly agree with him on moving the children there for a superior education. For the Visa I see no problems for thgose doing it by the rules. The main problem now is the ones who are used to just back to back 30 day for more that two months. I do foresee them bringing the education and work permits under a more strict control. Should not be a problem for people who are doing it legally.. But I have heard of people with an education permit using it for 6 years. Edited July 17, 2014 by northernjohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatJ Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Choosing the needs of children's education over parents desire to be in Thailand is almost always the right decision. Even the very best international schools in Thailand barely hold up against the better state schools in the UK, not simply on the grounds of educational standards, but also on a range of social and personal development issues too. You are wrong about the top international schools here - they are far far better than state schools in UK on average. Sure there are a handful of outstanding state schools in uk that are better but it's a moot point since you would not be able to get a place in one of them in practice. I always think it advisable to not look at what people say, rather look at what they do. You can take this as the truth, which it is, or you can deny it if doing so fits your preconceptions - Up2U. I have two children, I can afford to have them educated privately, when they were in Thailand my employers picked up the bill for any private school we might choose. We chose to have our children educated in UK State Schools - We chose not to have our children educated in the best private schools Thailand can offer. We are absolutely certain we made the right choice. Our eldest is now studying at what is unquestionably one of the UK's top universities, the youngest is doing well and we expect will get the grades for an equally ranked university. We did not bat an eyelid moving our children back to the UK State Education System - Happy to put our own children where our principles are and delighted to see the positive results, not just in their academic achievement but in their social and personal development. The child sitting next to my child in next year's A level exams will pass or fail on their performance in the exam - not on the basis of who their father is - and pass or fail for that child or my child will be accepted as a result of effort with no expectation that a pass is the predetermined result of having paid the school fees. Your last paragraph indicates you in fact know nothing about the top international schools in Thailand or elsewhere. And I suspect based on this that you made up the whole story about being 'able to afford' private school but choosing state school instead (a common and it must be said - understandable - self justification argument amount those who can't afford it). Having said that if you are happy with your choice and your kids did well - good for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Choosing the needs of children's education over parents desire to be in Thailand is almost always the right decision. Even the very best international schools in Thailand barely hold up against the better state schools in the UK, not simply on the grounds of educational standards, but also on a range of social and personal development issues too. You are wrong about the top international schools here - they are far far better than state schools in UK on average. Sure there are a handful of outstanding state schools in uk that are better but it's a moot point since you would not be able to get a place in one of them in practice. I always think it advisable to not look at what people say, rather look at what they do. You can take this as the truth, which it is, or you can deny it if doing so fits your preconceptions - Up2U. I have two children, I can afford to have them educated privately, when they were in Thailand my employers picked up the bill for any private school we might choose. We chose to have our children educated in UK State Schools - We chose not to have our children educated in the best private schools Thailand can offer. We are absolutely certain we made the right choice. Our eldest is now studying at what is unquestionably one of the UK's top universities, the youngest is doing well and we expect will get the grades for an equally ranked university. We did not bat an eyelid moving our children back to the UK State Education System - Happy to put our own children where our principles are and delighted to see the positive results, not just in their academic achievement but in their social and personal development. The child sitting next to my child in next year's A level exams will pass or fail on their performance in the exam - not on the basis of who their father is - and pass or fail for that child or my child will be accepted as a result of effort with no expectation that a pass is the predetermined result of having paid the school fees. Your last paragraph indicates you in fact know nothing about the top international schools in Thailand or elsewhere. And I suspect based on this that you made up the whole story about being 'able to afford' private school but choosing state school instead (a common and it must be said - understandable - self justification argument amount those who can't afford it). Having said that if you are happy with your choice and your kids did well - good for you! I would have chosen Harrow in Bangkok any day over any state school in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Choosing the needs of children's education over parents desire to be in Thailand is almost always the right decision. Even the very best international schools in Thailand barely hold up against the better state schools in the UK, not simply on the grounds of educational standards, but also on a range of social and personal development issues too. You are wrong about the top international schools here - they are far far better than state schools in UK on average. Sure there are a handful of outstanding state schools in uk that are better but it's a moot point since you would not be able to get a place in one of them in practice. I always think it advisable to not look at what people say, rather look at what they do. You can take this as the truth, which it is, or you can deny it if doing so fits your preconceptions - Up2U. I have two children, I can afford to have them educated privately, when they were in Thailand my employers picked up the bill for any private school we might choose. We chose to have our children educated in UK State Schools - We chose not to have our children educated in the best private schools Thailand can offer. We are absolutely certain we made the right choice. Our eldest is now studying at what is unquestionably one of the UK's top universities, the youngest is doing well and we expect will get the grades for an equally ranked university. We did not bat an eyelid moving our children back to the UK State Education System - Happy to put our own children where our principles are and delighted to see the positive results, not just in their academic achievement but in their social and personal development. The child sitting next to my child in next year's A level exams will pass or fail on their performance in the exam - not on the basis of who their father is - and pass or fail for that child or my child will be accepted as a result of effort with no expectation that a pass is the predetermined result of having paid the school fees. Your last paragraph indicates you in fact know nothing about the top international schools in Thailand or elsewhere. And I suspect based on this that you made up the whole story about being 'able to afford' private school but choosing state school instead (a common and it must be said - understandable - self justification argument amount those who can't afford it). Having said that if you are happy with your choice and your kids did well - good for you! I was a little curious about being on this forum after living so long in England. As for the schools not having ever been to England I can not say. But common sense and experience in North America tells me all public schools are not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thighlander Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I grew up in Fairfax County, Virginia. The public schools there are better than the private schools. The top high school in America is in that school district. Median home price is 460,000, which ain't cheap; but it's a lot less than private school tuition. UVA and William and Mary are both public universities, and also cheaper, and better than their private counterparts. In many parts of the US; the good K-12 schools are needles in haystacks. A home in a good school district in California will likely cost 7 figures......States like Florida and Michigan simply don't have any, along with quite a few others. www.fcps.edu I'm sure the facts are correct but would not live in Virginia. I'm raised in Calif. but have been to Norfolk a few times for work, couldn't live there. I think too much............. Opposite ends of the state. Lots of Africans in Norfolk; lots of bad schools.....Go 300 KM north.....I lived in CA for 6 years...very beautiful, great agriculture, very anti-business. A friend has a 5000 acre cattle ranch in San Benito/Monterey County he bought three recessions ago for 2 million usd, and a 500 acre pepper farm in Hollister that is worth a whole lot more. He went to private school at Pebble Beach, then was sent to Idaho for college. Virginia has been the number1 business friendly State a number of times. VA is large and diversified...the highest paying jobs and the top school districts are clearly in Northern VA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuestHouse Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I always think it advisable to not look at what people say, rather look at what they do. You can take this as the truth, which it is, or you can deny it if doing so fits your preconceptions - Up2U. I have two children, I can afford to have them educated privately, when they were in Thailand my employers picked up the bill for any private school we might choose. We chose to have our children educated in UK State Schools - We chose not to have our children educated in the best private schools Thailand can offer. We are absolutely certain we made the right choice. Our eldest is now studying at what is unquestionably one of the UK's top universities, the youngest is doing well and we expect will get the grades for an equally ranked university. We did not bat an eyelid moving our children back to the UK State Education System - Happy to put our own children where our principles are and delighted to see the positive results, not just in their academic achievement but in their social and personal development. The child sitting next to my child in next year's A level exams will pass or fail on their performance in the exam - not on the basis of who their father is - and pass or fail for that child or my child will be accepted as a result of effort with no expectation that a pass is the predetermined result of having paid the school fees. Your last paragraph indicates you in fact know nothing about the top international schools in Thailand or elsewhere. And I suspect based on this that you made up the whole story about being 'able to afford' private school but choosing state school instead (a common and it must be said - understandable - self justification argument amount those who can't afford it). Having said that if you are happy with your choice and your kids did well - good for you! I'm quite certain you know more about my income and personal finances than I do. Your whole argument stands of you doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJIC Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) Someone is teaching in Thailand then moves to the UK with two kids. Can't afford to send them to an International school here but can just up roots and live in the UK without benefits? I don't think so. A qualified teacher in the UK can easily get a wage of 25k/year. His wife can also work in the UK the day they get off the plane, even as a cleaner she would earn 10-14k/year Easily done for a family with two adults of working age. 25K minus 30% tax = 1458 GBP pm or $2500 pm try living off that in the UK. Not having a go at you but it's peanuts. You are way out,try reading this link from HMRC: for Tax after Tax Free Allowance of £10,000,and then the first Tax Band @ 20%. http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/rates/it.htm Edited July 17, 2014 by MAJIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I hope you declared all your overseas assets to the UK Government in exchange for your free education and other benefits. Overseas assets or indeed any assets are not a consideration in access to state education. Someone is teaching in Thailand then moves to the UK with two kids. Can't afford to send them to an International school here but can just up roots and live in the UK without benefits? I don't think so. Just done it. What's the point? Haven't taken a cent from the UK taxpayer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a99az Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I don't recall saying I needed to work! vunerable maybe speeling would as wood might make you feel vunerable hahahahah sorry i jest and digress My future is brilliant as an expat ,dont need to work, dont need a beer bar, and staying her for 11 years legaly, what more could a man want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpatJ Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I always think it advisable to not look at what people say, rather look at what they do. You can take this as the truth, which it is, or you can deny it if doing so fits your preconceptions - Up2U. I have two children, I can afford to have them educated privately, when they were in Thailand my employers picked up the bill for any private school we might choose. We chose to have our children educated in UK State Schools - We chose not to have our children educated in the best private schools Thailand can offer. We are absolutely certain we made the right choice. Our eldest is now studying at what is unquestionably one of the UK's top universities, the youngest is doing well and we expect will get the grades for an equally ranked university. We did not bat an eyelid moving our children back to the UK State Education System - Happy to put our own children where our principles are and delighted to see the positive results, not just in their academic achievement but in their social and personal development. The child sitting next to my child in next year's A level exams will pass or fail on their performance in the exam - not on the basis of who their father is - and pass or fail for that child or my child will be accepted as a result of effort with no expectation that a pass is the predetermined result of having paid the school fees. Your last paragraph indicates you in fact know nothing about the top international schools in Thailand or elsewhere. And I suspect based on this that you made up the whole story about being 'able to afford' private school but choosing state school instead (a common and it must be said - understandable - self justification argument amount those who can't afford it).Having said that if you are happy with your choice and your kids did well - good for you! I'm quite certain you know more about my income and personal finances than I do. Your whole argument stands of you doing so. You missed my point (but I think you knew this ;~) - ie. Based on what you yourself said you clearly no nothing about international schools. Sent from my SM-N900 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a99az Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I don't see that the future for non-Asian foreigners in Thailand will be good at all.Any of them.Got a couple of white foreigner pals in CM, been here a long time, nationwide business, $$$$s turnover, totally legit.They just had a problem renewing their VISA and WP a couple of weeks back. Never happened to them before.What surprised me most is the way they started treating Koreans! Care to share with us these problems they had? As for the OP I certainly agree with him on moving the children there for a superior education. For the Visa I see no problems for thgose doing it by the rules. The main problem now is the ones who are used to just back to back 30 day for more that two months. I do foresee them bringing the education and work permits under a more strict control. Should not be a problem for people who are doing it legally.. But I have heard of people with an education permit using it for 6 years. I was able to remain in Thailand that was not a problem. However I did feel that at any moment the goal posts would be moved making life difficult for us as a family. I had the funds "pension" and one or two other irons in the fire in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a99az Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I hope you declared all your overseas assets to the UK Government in exchange for your free education and other benefits. Free Education? Did I say Free? I do have to make a tax return even though I am retired true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a99az Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I have heard of no changes to the visa extension based on marriage so your post is just the usual Thai bash. Thai bash "We will visit Thailand next year for our summer holidays and I am sure we will enjoy it more in the knowledge that we are all tourists" Don't think you can call this Thai bashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a99az Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> I hope you declared all your overseas assets to the UK Government in exchange for your free education and other benefits. Overseas assets or indeed any assets are not a consideration in access to state education. Someone is teaching in Thailand then moves to the UK with two kids. Can't afford to send them to an International school here but can just up roots and live in the UK without benefits? I don't think so. What made you think that my children where in a Thai government school or for that matter, that my children are in a state school in the UK? Because I did some teaching? Well I must be on my skids as I am doing voluntary work once a week for Barnardo's as I am retired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Choosing the needs of children's education over parents desire to be in Thailand is almost always the right decision. Even the very best international schools in Thailand barely hold up against the better state schools in the UK, not simply on the grounds of educational standards, but also on a range of social and personal development issues too. That's OK for now, but the way the UK is going, and by the time the children are adults, the country will be well on the way to being under the control of people of a certain faith. If Thailand can just sort a few things out with the help of the general, the country can get better. At least the Thais look after their own first, something the UK have never done. It's just a pity that the education is so poor here. I think that is about the only thing the UK have ahead of Thailand. also, the corruption is even worse from the UK government than it was in Thailand. For phugz sake why does any discussion of the UK always seem to come back to immigrants or religion-based paranoia with you? You can sit here and fight the Thais' corner all you bloody well like but until such time as you jump through the hoops that Thai immigration lay out for you for PR or citizenship, you will never - I repeat, NEVER - have the right of abode here and, as such, you're just as vulnerable as everyone else to the whims of the immigration officer or clerk on duty on the day you wanna re-enter the kingdom or renew whatever visa/extension you're here on. Yes, the UK has its problems but guess what, if and when Thai immigration decides to piss on your cornflakes, Mother England will be there with open arms to clutch you to her bosom Stop being such an ingrate I really can't understand why people go on about getting citizenship being hard. If you are married to a Thai and work it's easier than many countries. I would prefer my kids to go to a mid range EP program in Thailand than throw away everything I have here just so they can get a degree and work in McDonalds. What if they dropped out of school when they are 15? Stay here and let them be my pension plan, rather than move to the Uk, where we'd have to work our <deleted> off and still be skint at the end of the month after living in a box eating in every night. I plan on sending my kids to get a degree abroad then they can choose themselves. I see some friends who seem to think they are their kids' entertainment manager and are the priority in their life. Sorry kids not me - I'll provide the best I can where I am happy. Excellent post Neeranam, and so true, I have never had children of my own, but if I had, I would certainly be thinking the way you are, but as for the marriage extensions, and all the hassle you have to go through and this ninety day reporting is a bit over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Rgs, I have to say I agree with you 100% about your comment on the working class scum, another thing, there should be no family allowance, having kids is peoples own responsibility, and I get so angry at people keeping on producing kids when they know the can't afford to keep them, and rely on the taxpayer. But the biggest scum of the lot are those capitalist bast---s who squeeze the working class for all they have got, and keep getting richer at the working classes expense, and then die and leave their millions to the spoiled brats of their offspring. The government should tax these peoples inheritance at 90%. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackArtemis Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I just moved back to the US to help out with my family. I was also teaching in Thailand, though at a school I would be fine with my children studying at. However, now I am jumping through hoops here as the US restructured their teaching certs and it's difficult to find work in the age group I want. So I find myself studying again to get 3 more certifications. The upside is that once I do find full time work I will be able to get my Masters paid for. I also can attempt to get into a program where I would receive a huge discount on buying a foreclosed house for being a teacher. My goals however are to move back to Thailand, there are a smattering of schools there that are worth it and my experience and degrees would help get me in, thus giving my children access to decent education. We will see how it goes though, right now I am focused on resume building. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) That's OK for now, but the way the UK is going, and by the time the children are adults, the country will be well on the way to being under the control of people of a certain faith. If Thailand can just sort a few things out with the help of the general, the country can get better. At least the Thais look after their own first, something the UK have never done. It's just a pity that the education is so poor here. I think that is about the only thing the UK have ahead of Thailand. also, the corruption is even worse from the UK government than it was in Thailand. For phugz sake why does any discussion of the UK always seem to come back to immigrants or religion-based paranoia with you? You can sit here and fight the Thais' corner all you bloody well like but until such time as you jump through the hoops that Thai immigration lay out for you for PR or citizenship, you will never - I repeat, NEVER - have the right of abode here and, as such, you're just as vulnerable as everyone else to the whims of the immigration officer or clerk on duty on the day you wanna re-enter the kingdom or renew whatever visa/extension you're here on. Yes, the UK has its problems but guess what, if and when Thai immigration decides to piss on your cornflakes, Mother England will be there with open arms to clutch you to her bosom Stop being such an ingrate I stand by everything I say, for all Thailands faults, the UK could learn a lot from them. We won't have to worry about being run over with emigrants here. What do you mean "WE won't have to worry about being run over with emigrants here"?? Are you Thai in your little self-constructed Matrix, then? Just to point out Emigrant is someone leaving their country forever. Immigrant is someone coming to a country forever. Neither word is applicable to foreigners in Thailand, and I believe all your passports get stamped "non-immigrant" to point that fact out to you. In the UK all the people of foreign origin would be immigrants (not emigrants, if they were emigrants you wouldn't see them there) Semantics. If we are going to split hairs, the non immigrant visa dies the second you get an extension of stay. Immigrants. If it it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. I like chucking the word 'immigrant' at the Brits who live in Thailand. For them the word implies something a whole lot different to what say an Australian would consider as an immigrant. For the most part, for the latter immigrant isn't an insult. What makes it worse is they become the very type of immigrant they despise back home, one which stays in its own little community, doesn't learn the language, and has little respect for the ways of the society around them. Edited July 18, 2014 by samran 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) To the OP. Thailand will always be fine to those foreigners who follow not only the letter of the law, but the spirit of the law. Too many people who come ignore the former, and piss all over the latter, as we have seen with the perpetual tourists now whinging that this was all unforeseen, when the rest of us thought it was only a matter of time. Education is a biggie, and this is something I and most people struggle with given the real choices are limited. For me, if I couldn't afford to send my children to one of the two or three top tier international schools in Bangkok, I wouldn't be here, and that is saying a lot given I run my own business and what I do my livelihood and I'll be honest, my lifestyle, depends on being based here. I'd give it all away for my child's education. Edited July 18, 2014 by samran 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apiwan Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I hope you declared all your overseas assets to the UK Government in exchange for your free education and other benefits. It's NOT free. It's paid for by your taxes. The government will want you to think they are giving it to you free. But it's not Sent from my SM-N9005 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Help me a bit. The OP is Lucky to have got out in time or not In time for what? What has changed recently? Why would someone want to get out? Edited July 18, 2014 by thailiketoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apiwan Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Choosing the needs of children's education over parents desire to be in Thailand is almost always the right decision. Even the very best international schools in Thailand barely hold up against the better state schools in the UK, not simply on the grounds of educational standards, but also on a range of social and personal development issues too. That's OK for now, but the way the UK is going, and by the time the children are adults, the country will be well on the way to being under the control of people of a certain faith.If Thailand can just sort a few things out with the help of the general, the country can get better. At least the Thais look after their own first, something the UK have never done. It's just a pity that the education is so poor here. I think that is about the only thing the UK have ahead of Thailand. also, the corruption is even worse from the UK government than it was in Thailand. For phugz sake why does any discussion of the UK always seem to come back to immigrants or religion-based paranoia with you? You can sit here and fight the Thais' corner all you bloody well like but until such time as you jump through the hoops that Thai immigration lay out for you for PR or citizenship, you will never - I repeat, NEVER - have the right of abode here and, as such, you're just as vulnerable as everyone else to the whims of the immigration officer or clerk on duty on the day you wanna re-enter the kingdom or renew whatever visa/extension you're here on. Yes, the UK has its problems but guess what, if and when Thai immigration decides to piss on your cornflakes, Mother England will be there with open arms to clutch you to her bosom Stop being such an ingrate I stand by everything I say, for all Thailands faults, the UK could learn a lot from them. We won't have to worry about being run over with emigrants here.see You stag off the efnics in the UK. But you are now an ethnic here. Confused. Ethnics make up 10/15% of the population in UK. Stop reading the daily mail Sent from my SM-N9005 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudRight Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Help me a bit. The OP is Lucky to have got out in time or not In time for what? What has changed recently? Why would someone want to get out? You'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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