jacky54 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 funny, we've 'gone that far'. Final interviews and all. Just waiting for a minister to be appointed. Final count....5000 odd baht from memory. I'm glad you are a superior human. Heres 5 baht. Call someone who cares. Do let us know when the happy day will be, you may get a Thai passport but you will never be accepted as Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anto Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Choosing the needs of children's education over parents desire to be in Thailand is almost always the right decision. Even the very best international schools in Thailand barely hold up against the better state schools in the UK, not simply on the grounds of educational standards, but also on a range of social and personal development issues too. Most of the multi millionairs i know ,who are self made , left school at 14 or a little bit more .There are numerous examples of such people . My Thai wife is always on about putting our daughter in the very best school which we can not afford .I dont worry about my daughter because i know she is very intelligent and will make her own way if she has the basics of reading and writing in Thai and English .It helps that she is a beauty already at 11 years old . Edited July 18, 2014 by anto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATF Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 funny, we've 'gone that far'. Final interviews and all. Just waiting for a minister to be appointed. Final count....5000 odd baht from memory. I'm glad you are a superior human. Heres 5 baht. Call someone who cares. Do let us know when the happy day will be, you may get a Thai passport but you will never be accepted as Thai. Jacky he is Thai. Born and bred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) funny, we've 'gone that far'. Final interviews and all. Just waiting for a minister to be appointed. Final count....5000 odd baht from memory. I'm glad you are a superior human. Heres 5 baht. Call someone who cares. Do let us know when the happy day will be, you may get a Thai passport but you will never be accepted as Thai. um, I've already got one, admittedly born with one. 185cm, been confused for spanish, till I open my mouth. Someone has even said I look a bit like George Clooney. I'll be the judge as to how well I'm accepted. And I'm accepted quite nicely thank you. I was talking about applying for my wife. My experience though is that it isn't what passport you hold, it is how much of an idiot people perceive you as which is the real guage of acceptance. Edited July 18, 2014 by samran 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 funny, we've 'gone that far'. Final interviews and all. Just waiting for a minister to be appointed. Final count....5000 odd baht from memory. I'm glad you are a superior human. Heres 5 baht. Call someone who cares. Do let us know when the happy day will be, you may get a Thai passport but you will never be accepted as Thai. Jacky he is Thai. Born and bred. nope, born and grew up in OZ. Which makes his argument even more flimsy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 funny, we've 'gone that far'. Final interviews and all. Just waiting for a minister to be appointed. Final count....5000 odd baht from memory. I'm glad you are a superior human. Heres 5 baht. Call someone who cares. Do let us know when the happy day will be, you may get a Thai passport but you will never be accepted as Thai. That's not the reason people want one. Not accepted by bigots. Why would you be embarrassed to apply? Because you would have no chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuestHouse Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Choosing the needs of children's education over parents desire to be in Thailand is almost always the right decision. Even the very best international schools in Thailand barely hold up against the better state schools in the UK, not simply on the grounds of educational standards, but also on a range of social and personal development issues too. Most of the multi millionairs i know ,who are self made , left school at 14 or a little bit more .There are numerous examples of such people . My Thai wife is always on about putting our daughter in the very best school which we can not afford .I dont worry about my daughter because i know she is very intelligent and will make her own way if she has the basics of reading and writing in Thai and English .It helps that she is a beauty already at 11 years old . I wish her the best of luck in life. But I'd advise listening to your wife on this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Hill Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Choosing the needs of children's education over parents desire to be in Thailand is almost always the right decision. Even the very best international schools in Thailand barely hold up against the better state schools in the UK, not simply on the grounds of educational standards, but also on a range of social and personal development issues too. My Thai wife is always on about putting our daughter in the very best school which we can not afford .I dont worry about my daughter because i know she is very intelligent and will make her own way if she has the basics of reading and writing in Thai and English .It helps that she is a beauty already at 11 years old . Are you for real? If you wanna rely on her looks, why not just wait till she's 18, buy her a micro-skirt, some stilettos and rent her a 2 square meter area around a Sukhumvit Road lamp post? Stop being an idiot and get your child educated to the best of your ability. Lots of intelligent people without a penny to their name pal. Don't assume anything. Edited July 18, 2014 by Cypress Hill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherOneAmerican Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I was talking about applying for my wife. You are cheating a little bit there Sam, Foreigner woman married to Thai man, citizenship easy, she doesn't need job or income. Foreigner man married to Thai woman, completely different game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I was talking about applying for my wife.You are cheating a little bit there Sam,Foreigner woman married to Thai man, citizenship easy, she doesn't need job or income. Foreigner man married to Thai woman, completely different game. Indeed, however you can hardly argue that 40k is a huge hurdle. My wife makes that working part time, in Thailand. As for me, well I wouldn't be here if I was only earning that. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anto Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Choosing the needs of children's education over parents desire to be in Thailand is almost always the right decision. Even the very best international schools in Thailand barely hold up against the better state schools in the UK, not simply on the grounds of educational standards, but also on a range of social and personal development issues too. My Thai wife is always on about putting our daughter in the very best school which we can not afford .I dont worry about my daughter because i know she is very intelligent and will make her own way if she has the basics of reading and writing in Thai and English .It helps that she is a beauty already at 11 years old . Are you for real? If you wanna rely on her looks, why not just wait till she's 18, buy her a micro-skirt, some stilettos and rent her a 2 square meter area around a Sukhumvit Road lamp post? Stop being an idiot and get your child educated to the best of your ability. Lots of intelligent people without a penny to their name pal. Don't assume anything. She wants to be an Airline Stewardess ,so her looks should help ,along with the English she has learned mostly from me .She goes to Dara Accademy in Chiang mai ,which i think is perfectly good enough .Look it up if you dont know the school ,before mouting off . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Choosing the needs of children's education over parents desire to be in Thailand is almost always the right decision. Even the very best international schools in Thailand barely hold up against the better state schools in the UK, not simply on the grounds of educational standards, but also on a range of social and personal development issues too. My Thai wife is always on about putting our daughter in the very best school which we can not afford .I dont worry about my daughter because i know she is very intelligent and will make her own way if she has the basics of reading and writing in Thai and English .It helps that she is a beauty already at 11 years old . Are you for real?If you wanna rely on her looks, why not just wait till she's 18, buy her a micro-skirt, some stilettos and rent her a 2 square meter area around a Sukhumvit Road lamp post? Stop being an idiot and get your child educated to the best of your ability. Lots of intelligent people without a penny to their name pal. Don't assume anything. She wants to be an Airline Stewardess ,so her looks should help ,along with the English she has learned mostly from me .She goes to Dara Accademy in Chiang mai ,which i think is perfectly good enough .Look it up if you dont know the school ,before mouting off . Air hostess. I guess that is one interpretation of 'aiming high'. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anto Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) >>Air hostess. I guess that is one interpretation of 'aiming high'.<< Your mocking being an Air hostess ?(there are some right creeps on this Forum) Edited July 18, 2014 by anto 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Correct terminology today is "Cabin Crew" I believe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgs2001uk Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 In answer to post # 132, "Dara Academy" LOL. Her English and looks are of no use, guess you havent yet sussed out how things work in the land of the Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anto Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 In answer to post # 132, "Dara Academy" LOL. Her English and looks are of no use, guess you havent yet sussed out how things work in the land of the Thai. How about in Europe or Australia then ,where she wants to go ,when she is of age , and i can get her a visa ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salavan Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I have heard of no changes to the visa extension based on marriage so your post is just the usual Thai bash. i dont know how long youve been here but over the last few years there has been many changes to marriage, dependant , and retirement visa extensions its the salami effect gradually slicing it bit by bit slowly to make it more difficult each time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josephbloggs Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Choosing the needs of children's education over parents desire to be in Thailand is almost always the right decision. Even the very best international schools in Thailand barely hold up against the better state schools in the UK, not simply on the grounds of educational standards, but also on a range of social and personal development issues too. That's OK for now, but the way the UK is going, and by the time the children are adults, the country will be well on the way to being under the control of people of a certain faith. If Thailand can just sort a few things out with the help of the general, the country can get better. At least the Thais look after their own first, something the UK have never done. It's just a pity that the education is so poor here. I think that is about the only thing the UK have ahead of Thailand. also, the corruption is even worse from the UK government than it was in Thailand. No mention made of the right to own your own property in your own name. No mention made of the welfare state or National Health Service. No mention made of not losing pension increases caused by not living in the UK. Many on here like to knock the UK (I have knocked it myself at times), but the bottom line, its always available as a last resort when back up plans A, B and C have gone tits up. You make good points, no country is perfect, If something happened that would force me to leave Thailand, there is no way I would ever go back to stay in the UK, I went back for three months during the floods, and the place was crowded out by emigrants, they have taken the place over, and the streets are not safe. Maybe I would move to Cambodia, and could always go the Thailand from time to time to see my wife. But I don't think that will ever happen, but that would probably be my plan B. Do you realise the utter hypocrisy of what you are saying? Probably not, that's the sad thing. "I'll never go back to the UK because of all the immigrants (or "emigrants"), but I'll live here. Or Cambodia." Pretty sad, honestly very sad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rgs2001uk Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 I have heard of no changes to the visa extension based on marriage so your post is just the usual Thai bash. i dont know how long youve been here but over the last few years there has been many changes to marriage, dependant , and retirement visa extensions its the salami effect gradually slicing it bit by bit slowly to make it more difficult each time Please point out to me the "many changes to marriage" visas. I am on my 9th straight, nothing has changed. 400k in the bank, copy of wifes ID card and Tabian baan, copy of my arrival card and passport, letter from bank with and up to date copy of bank book, photos and sometimes I have to draw a map. The above hasnt changed in the last 9 years. So please explain your remarks, they serve no purpose and in fact may well spread alarm to others who know no better. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roamer Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Back to the original topic. 11 years ago we faced a similar dilemma with my stepdaughter. We looked at what was on offer in LOS, could afford the better schools but deep down I had a nagging feeling that it wouldn't be the best route. We returned to London, she enrolled at a primary school with some 30 different nationalities where they were absolutely brilliant at teaching kids English. Onto a good state secondary school, after a gap year she starts at UCL this Sept having received an offer from Cambridge which she declined as she prefers UCL for her subject and also prefers to live in London. It was the right move for us, the years have passed and it won't be long before we think about returning to LOS on a more permanent basis. However, each case is different, the family dynamic also has to be taken into consideration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Post removed 7) Respect fellow members by posting in a civil manner: do not launch personal attacks, or be hateful or insulting towards other members, ie No flaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautifulthailand99 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Welcome back OP to four seasons, the rule of law , democratic rights , freedom of speech , tolerance of different nationalities and cultures , National Health Service, advanced culture on all fronts and a comprehensive welfare state from cradle to grave. My wife has been here for 11 years now and couldn't be happier - her eyes have been opened to the world and she couldn't go back now to the narrow grind that living in Thailand means. Plus the heat , damned heat means we only consider going November to February. None of the many Thais we know here wants to go back except for holidays and family visits. Edited July 18, 2014 by beautifulthailand99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Not sad, no hypocrisy, and I'm not going to explain it all again, if you can't see what I mean, that's up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geronimo Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Only time will give you the answer to your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveWalsh Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 >>Air hostess. I guess that is one interpretation of 'aiming high'.<< Your mocking being an Air hostess ?(there are some right creeps on this Forum) Good luck to your daughter. And yes -- the creeps on this forum are sickening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Not sad, no hypocrisy, and I'm not going to explain it all again, if you can't see what I mean, that's up to you. ...says the anti foreigner foreigner. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveWalsh Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Even the very best international schools in Thailand barely hold up against the better state schools in the UK, not simply on the grounds of educational standards, but also on a range of social and personal development issues too. This is complete rubbish. People who resort to buzzwords and pseudo-intellectual twaddle such as "social and personal development issues" seldom know what they're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmsally Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Not too sure where to start here as maybe digressed a bit from the OP. Seems to be a lot of opinions "one or the other". Both UK and Thailand have their faults, in my opinion it is best to make sure your children slot into both. To be brief (bit rushed), my daughter just gone into job market and could work in both. Thailand a bit of no brainer with a good education but UK not that rosy. One of the bigger problems (UK) is that companies want to hire graduates as interns and pay them peanuts. So you take off tax, rent etc etc and left with zilch. The best deal was in Singapore with an actual job (not intern), first year tax free, good salary and good experience. You've got the advantages of "2 worlds" so make sure your kids have the same. It doesn't necessarily mean you have to spend a lot on international schools. My kids did partly Thai private, extra homeschooling, UK uni. You name it, they did it ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 She wants to be an Airline Stewardess ,so her looks should help ,along with the English she has learned mostly from me .She goes to Dara Accademy in Chiang mai ,which i think is perfectly good enough .Look it up if you dont know the school ,before mouting off . Why not encourage her to aim higher, for Flight-Crew instead, plenty of female pilots 'up-front' these days ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GuestHouse Posted July 19, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) Even the very best international schools in Thailand barely hold up against the better state schools in the UK, not simply on the grounds of educational standards, but also on a range of social and personal development issues too. This is complete rubbish. People who resort to buzzwords and pseudo-intellectual twaddle such as "social and personal development issues" seldom know what they're talking about. Well come on then, give us some insight. Or is your contribution simply to claim something you disagree with as "Complete Rubbish" We've put our children in what we firmly believe to be the best school for them - into the UK State School System. We can afford the UK private schooling, and my employers will certainly pay for the very best of International Schools. We have made the same choice many professional expats who can actually afford to choose make. I have absolutely no doubt we made the right decision for our children's education, its already paying off in our eldest's access to what is unquestionably one of the best universities in the UK (in the top ten globally ranked universities) and our youngest looks set to follow. Putting aside academic achievement, they've both gained a worldliness that is lacking in any of their previous international school class mates. And let me address a very specific made by Anto in which he regards the looks of his daughter as a bonus. One of the very specific concerns we had in making our choice was the pressures on girls to simply be pretty. The social norms placed on young girls and women in Thailand (including in the International Schools) are not what we want for our children. As a parent I'm grateful we are in a position we are able to choose and happy with the choice we made. Off you go with your 'Complete Rubbish' or come back with a reasoned argument. Edited July 19, 2014 by GuestHouse 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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