Popular Post Lite Beer Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 Angry mahout assaults elephant tusk thieves AYUTTYAYA: -- A prime suspect in the elephant tusk theft in Ayutthaya was bodily assaulted by an angry mahout as three suspects were brought to reenact their crime Friday for the second time after yesterday’s cancellation due to threat by mahouts and residents. Police brought the suspects to reenact how they poisoned and cut the tusks of the 50-year-old elephant “Plai Khlao” in Ayutthaya.More than 100 police officers were called in to guard Mr Panya Srijamdee, Mr Manote Dokmaikaew and Narongrit Srichamdee to an elephant corral in Suan Prik sub-district to re-enact their crimeHowever they confronted again with angry local residents and mahouts.Mr Laithongrien Meepan, a mahout and an owner of an elephant camp in Ayutthaya, bodily assault one of the suspects, prompting the police to bring all the suspects back to police vehicles.The police then found themselves surrounded by the angry mob and two bull elephants. They had to negotiate with representatives of angry crowd before they were able to leave the scene safely.Later the reenactment was conducted hastily as the police feared the mahout would return with their elephants to lynch the three suspects. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/angry-mahout-assaults-elephant-tusk-thieves/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=angry-mahout-assaults-elephant-tusk-thieves -- Thai PBS 2014-07-18 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post assayer Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 Let them save Thailand some money and do as they want with the men. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iReason Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 "the police feared the mahout would return with their elephants to lynch the three suspects." Yee haa! Welcome to Dodge City! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NeilSA1 Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 Well done Mr Meepan. If found guilty and jailed, will they face poor treatment by the inmates? I hope the end users (of the poached ivory ) will also be tracked down, and dealt with. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post englishoak Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) In a land where the elephant has an almost iconic and revered status ( becoming forgotten ) is is good to see the mahouts showing thier feelings and these butchers can thank their lucky stars they have got the protection of the police. In days gone by theyd have probably been under the feet of an elephant by now with chests caved in and squashed flat. Edited July 18, 2014 by englishoak 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Getyourfactsright Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 I wish I had been there. Good on them 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rametindallas Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 Well done Mr Meepan. If found guilty and jailed, will they face poor treatment by the inmates? I hope the end users (of the poached ivory ) will also be tracked down, and dealt with. The police recovered the tusks at the perpetrator's home. But if you are referring to the person who requested and offered, in advance, to buy the tusks, then, yes, they should suffer the same fate as those who killed and mutilated the elephant. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kunnatee Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 Unfortunately, there is little doubt that the mahouts didn't act this way out of empathy for the elephant, but because they were upset at having their property damaged.The relation between mahouts and elephants is that of masters and slaves, Mahouts and tusk thieves are of the same breed. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 What beats me is why do these people commit such crimes for perhaps a modest sum of money knowing full well that their lives are going to be ruined if they get caught? Surely the risks involved for these evil deeds cannot be worth it. The same applies to drug mules and other such high risk criminal acts for payments of modest sums of money. Can someone explain the logic behind this, please? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beetlejuice Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Unfortunately, there is little doubt that the mahouts didn't act this way out of empathy for the elephant, but because they were upset at having their property damaged. The relation between mahouts and elephants is that of masters and slaves, Mahouts and tusk thieves are of the same breed. Absolutely spot on, my thoughts exactly. It`s their livelihoods they are concerned about not the elephant`s suffering and welfare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post noitom Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 Thailand police have to stop this re-enactment of crime circus. There will be lynching and a riot some day soon, if they don't stop the spectacle. Rather they should try interrogation and follow up busts of Thai Mr. Bigs, middlemen, and Thai merchants and bankers in and running the network of illegal wildlife trade. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15Peter20 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 What is the point of these re-enactments? Anyone know? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 What is the point of these re-enactments? Anyone know? I am curious.....if they act out their crime, it reinforces the idea that they are guilty, doesn't it? Somebody that was wrongly accused would not be able to act out the crime, especially if certain details were left out .... I suppose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrjlh Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Wait until they get to prison..... The Elephant is the National Symbol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> What is the point of these re-enactments? Anyone know? Thai police justification for their salary and benefits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Beetlejuice Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> What is the point of these re-enactments? Anyone know? Thai police justification for their salary and benefits? Total crap. These crime re-enactments are to make the perpetrators face up to what they have done and in some cases have to come head on with their victims. It is also a way of publicly shaming these people, the principle of losing face that to Thai people is the ultimate embarrassment. One has to understand Thai culture and attitudes to realise the purpose of these re-enactments that obviously you do not. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Somtamnication Posted July 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2014 Would love to see these guys tied to and quartered by a couple of these wonderful beasts. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bcgardener Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 What beats me is why do these people commit such crimes for perhaps a modest sum of money knowing full well that their lives are going to be ruined if they get caught? Surely the risks involved for these evil deeds cannot be worth it. The same applies to drug mules and other such high risk criminal acts for payments of modest sums of money. Can someone explain the logic behind this, please? Logic in Thailand? You are very hopeful. Sent from my GT-I9500 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 "the police feared the mahout would return with their elephants to lynch the three suspects." Yee haa! Welcome to Dodge City! No need for lynch ropes, just let the elephants crush the perps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxYakov Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 What beats me is why do these people commit such crimes for perhaps a modest sum of money knowing full well that their lives are going to be ruined if they get caught? Surely the risks involved for these evil deeds cannot be worth it. The same applies to drug mules and other such high risk criminal acts for payments of modest sums of money. Can someone explain the logic behind this, please? Greed + Ignorance + Stupidity 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 A post containing a profanity has been removed: 8) Do not post disruptive or inflammatory messages, vulgarities, obscenities or profanities or to incite useless arguments by avoiding troll activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 If Thailand had a justice system that would actually punish perps instead of doling out 500 baht fines, then maybe there would be less lynch attempts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperylobster Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Fit to be buried in Kee-Chang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokheat Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 They had to negotiate with representatives of angry crowd before they were able to leave the scene safely. this has to be one of the times i tip my hat to the thais, they certainly do take matters into their own hands,albeit in groups. if they were half smart they should have negotiated the safety of the 100 police in exchange for the perps, that would seem the only real justice you will find in thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> In a land where the elephant has an almost iconic and revered status ( becoming forgotten ) is is good to see the mahouts showing thier feelings and these butchers can thank their lucky stars they have got the protection of the police. In days gone by theyd have probably been under the feet of an elephant by now with chests caved in and squashed flat. chests caved in and squashed flat. Great imagery...a gruesome word picture...just what those insensitive thieves deserve...well said... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 What beats me is why do these people commit such crimes for perhaps a modest sum of money knowing full well that their lives are going to be ruined if they get caught? Surely the risks involved for these evil deeds cannot be worth it. The same applies to drug mules and other such high risk criminal acts for payments of modest sums of money. Can someone explain the logic behind this, please? Logic, come on now, you need something between the ears before any thinking capability is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OOLEEBER Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> What is the point of these re-enactments? Anyone know? Thai police justification for their salary and benefits? Total crap. These crime re-enactments are to make the perpetrators face up to what they have done and in some cases have to come head on with their victims. It is also a way of publicly shaming these people, the principle of losing face that to Thai people is the ultimate embarrassment. One has to understand Thai culture and attitudes to realise the purpose of these re-enactments that obviously you do not. Thanks for clarifying that Beetlejuice, I've been here 12 years and all the time i thought it was just a stunt for the press or maybe to get a little more detail for the case against them. What you say makes total sense and I'll view these differently from now on. Edited July 19, 2014 by OOLEEBER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 I wish I had been there. Good on them Yes, Bravo ... assuming they captured the right bad guys ... not just for the punishment of those caught, since what they did can never be undone, but maybe anyone else thinking of doing something like this will be frightened by what happened and change his plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 What beats me is why do these people commit such crimes for perhaps a modest sum of money knowing full well that their lives are going to be ruined if they get caught? Surely the risks involved for these evil deeds cannot be worth it. The same applies to drug mules and other such high risk criminal acts for payments of modest sums of money. Can someone explain the logic behind this, please? You can do this it's easy, no one ever gets caught, no one. We can help you make a fortune, we have people on the inside no need to worry, you'l be fine. And if something goes wrong we'll look after you, you can trust us for sure!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorri Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Wait until they get to prison..... The Elephant is the National Symbol. That's true, but why are they almost extinct in the wild....revered yes, but mainly for the money, you don't see any plans to reintroduce them to the wild. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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