Trang Hit By Counterfeit 1,000 Baht Notes

[Lite Beer]

Trang Hit By Counterfeit 1,000 Baht Notes

By Khaosod Eng.

TRANG — Police are warning citizens and tourists in Trang to beware of counterfeit 1,000 baht banknotes circulating around the province.

Pol.Maj.Gen. Jirawat Udomsuk, a commander of Trang provincial police, said he has received a number of omplaints about the fake bills in the past week.

"We still don't know who the perpetrators are," Pol.Maj.Gen. Jirawat said. "We are informing the public via the media to be vigilant. When they receive banknotes, they should check the notes for their own safety."

Suphaporn Somsri-ngam, a 37-year-old tea vendor in front of Trang Hospital, said a pair of customers gave her a 1,000 baht bill on 20 July, and she only realised after closing down the shop that the bill was fake.

"I want to warn other people to be careful," Ms Suphaporn told our correspondent. "It looks very real."

Another alleged victim of the crime, a chicken vendor named Nilnate Ngoensri, said she was given a fake 1,000 baht note on 19 July by a female customer.

Police say both banknotes bear the serial number 9A3828862.

Those convicted of counterfeiting money can face up to 20 years in prison and a fine of 40,000 baht. Those who deliberately use counterfeit banknotes are also subject to up to 15 years in jail.

Source: http://en.khaosod.co.th/detail.php?newsid=1406359185&typecate=06&section=

-- Khaosod English 2014-07-26

[Tywais]

Those who deliberately use counterfeit banknotes are also subject to up to 15 years in jail.

And that is the danger as it may be difficult to disprove the 'deliberately' part if caught passing one. One could get stuck for a while explaining themselves.

[Bangmod]

a number of omplaints.

How many Omplaints can a person take???

[trainman34014]

Ok; so where is all the wonderful advice from Mr Plod about how to detect a bad note ? Are we supposed to check the number of every single bill we get from an ATM to make sure it's not the one quoted ?

In my experience nobody here checks notes when you hand them over, not even banks !

[user82374298374]

Are we supposed to check the number of every single bill we get from an ATM to make sure it's not the one quoted ?

You should always get a paper receipt when you withdraw cash from an ATM and keep it in your wallet as proof that you withdrew the cash from an ATM.

[FangFerang]

Counterfeit notes are a bigger threat than terrorism, insurgency and Thaksin combined. The danger is real, measurable and systemic.

Undermining the validity of currency is heinous.

The good General Prayuth O-cha, a hard as nails warrior, I think has no mercy for this at all.

Good. The idiots circulating the notes have opened up a can of napalm.

Those doing this deserve no mercy. Counterfeiters attack a country at its most crucial level. I have no sympathy for such scum.

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[Nampetch]

Counterfeit notes are a bigger threat than terrorism, insurgency and Thaksin combined. The danger is real, measurable and systemic.

Undermining the validity of currency is heinous.

The good General Prayuth O-cha, a hard as nails warrior, I think has no mercy for this at all.

Good. The idiots circulating the notes have opened up a can of napalm.

Those doing this deserve no mercy. Counterfeiters attack a country at its most crucial level. I have no sympathy for such scum.

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Depends upon whether or not the currency is bank notes or drugs, nowadays. Used to be salt, did it not?

[JDGRUEN]

Trang sounds like an odd place to pass fake bills. Why not a very busy tourist resort area where lots of tourists are pulling out 1000 Baht notes quite frequently ... I see it every day ... and do it a bit myself... I notice that Thais are most often dealing with 100 and 500 in shops and restaurants ...

There must be a FAQ page somewhere that helps one to identify fake Thai currency ... maybe?

[worgeordie]

Looking at that note in the picture,it looks like a terrible copy,maybe been in a

washing machine with stones in.so either the lady needs glasses or its the screen

on my laptop is not good.

regards worgeordie

[JohnThailandJohn]

Ok; so where is all the wonderful advice from Mr Plod about how to detect a bad note ? Are we supposed to check the number of every single bill we get from an ATM to make sure it's not the one quoted ?

In my experience nobody here checks notes when you hand them over, not even banks !

Not sure I understand, are you saying it would be too difficult for you to check the serial number on your 1,000 baht notes is not 9A3828862 or is it that you think holding them up to the light, at an angle or using a counterfeit detecting pen would be more easy?

In your experience where do you find it common for people to check if a 1000 baht value note is counterfeit? I have never seen anyone in the US checking a $20 note but in fact do see places like 711 and other chains checking money and having tools to detect if a note is real.

[Suradit69]

Those who deliberately use counterfeit banknotes are also subject to up to 15 years in jail.

And that is the danger as it may be difficult to disprove the 'deliberately' part if caught passing one. One could get stuck for a while explaining themselves.

For most non-business-owner farang the only way you're likely to get a Baht 1000 note is from an ATM or bank counter or from a currency exchange. They wouldn't be given to you in a shop or market as change. For Thais not in business or getting paid for work, likewise.

I know there's no guarantee that the banks or currency exchange operators won't screw-up, but you would think/hope they are reasonably carefully about money that's taken in and dispensed. Most likely people using Baht 1000 notes to make small purchases of chicken or tea are doing so in order to get most of the Baht 1000 back in legitimate change.

Not sure how successful a defense it would be, but probably another good reason to hang onto paperwork when making withdrawals or exchanges. At least it would give you an opportunity to point the finger at whoever was likely to have passed the bill to you.

Edited July 26, 2014 by Suradit69

[metisdead]

A post containing a derogatory generalization toward Thais has been removed as well as the replies.

[nisakiman]

Here in Greece, nearly all shops have machines which can detect forged notes, and they use them as a matter of course.

Mind you, the Euro is a forgers Eldorado, with notes at €50 (2000 baht, approximately), €100 (4000 Baht),€200 (8000 Baht) and €500 (20,000 Baht), so it's not surprising they check them. You wouldn't want to be caught with a couple of forged €500 notes in your till. That would make a serious dent in the day's profits.

[Phatcharanan]

Counterfeit notes are a bigger threat than terrorism, insurgency and Thaksin combined. The danger is real, measurable and systemic.

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I doubt that the relatives of all the insurgency victims in the South of Thailand would agree with you

[Zeegator]

Are we supposed to check the number of every single bill we get from an ATM to make sure it's not the one quoted ?

You should always get a paper receipt when you withdraw cash from an ATM and keep it in your wallet as proof that you withdrew the cash from an ATM.

The receipt doesn't detail the banknote numbers so this would be a waste of time.

[Gumballl]

Here in Greece, nearly all shops have machines which can detect forged notes, and they use them as a matter of course.

Mind you, the Euro is a forgers Eldorado, with notes at €50 (2000 baht, approximately), €100 (4000 Baht),€200 (8000 Baht) and €500 (20,000 Baht), so it's not surprising they check them. You wouldn't want to be caught with a couple of forged €500 notes in your till. That would make a serious dent in the day's profits.

Many, but not all, businesses in the US check the money that's been tendered by the customer.

If a business examines the bill(s) that I hand them, I then reciprocate the favor by checking the bills they hand me for change. It seems fair.

[54321]

I suggest he is asking where the advice is to help ensure he (and indeed the public) can identify a fake note. I also suspect there is more than one fake note in circulation, and the forgers used more than one serial number, so checking for the serial number in the article would have only limited success

Ok; so where is all the wonderful advice from Mr Plod about how to detect a bad note ? Are we supposed to check the number of every single bill we get from an ATM to make sure it's not the one quoted ?

In my experience nobody here checks notes when you hand them over, not even banks !

Not sure I understand, are you saying it would be too difficult for you to check the serial number on your 1,000 baht notes is not 9A3828862 or is it that you think holding them up to the light, at an angle or using a counterfeit detecting pen would be more easy?

In your experience where do you find it common for people to check if a 1000 baht value note is counterfeit? I have never seen anyone in the US checking a $20 note but in fact do see places like 711 and other chains checking money and having tools to detect if a note is real.

[xray]

http://www.bot.or.th/English/Banknotes/production_and_security/Pages/identify.aspx

The BOT info found with the link above will help you check for genuine notes. A small magnifying glass (like the kind the amulet people use) can be helpful as well. Counterfeiters do a good job of faking some security features, but it is the combination of many features that usually give them away.

Edited July 27, 2014 by xray

[JohnThailandJohn]

I suggest he is asking where the advice is to help ensure he (and indeed the public) can identify a fake note. I also suspect there is more than one fake note in circulation, and the forgers used more than one serial number, so checking for the serial number in the article would have only limited success

Ok; so where is all the wonderful advice from Mr Plod about how to detect a bad note ? Are we supposed to check the number of every single bill we get from an ATM to make sure it's not the one quoted ?

In my experience nobody here checks notes when you hand them over, not even banks !

Not sure I understand, are you saying it would be too difficult for you to check the serial number on your 1,000 baht notes is not 9A3828862 or is it that you think holding them up to the light, at an angle or using a counterfeit detecting pen would be more easy?

In your experience where do you find it common for people to check if a 1000 baht value note is counterfeit? I have never seen anyone in the US checking a $20 note but in fact do see places like 711 and other chains checking money and having tools to detect if a note is real.

And the point is this article is about a specific group of counterfeit currency currently be passed in a certain area and they have provided the serial of this fake bills ... that is pretty darn specific when it comes to identifying the notes this article is about.

If you want to research about general anti-counterfeit measures in Thai currency then there are numerous sites available on the net. Again, this article was specific to a certain counterfeit bill currently be passed in a certain area that they have stated how to identify. So, the real point is why try to find fault with the article and information provided? It also doesn't mention the numerous other ways you can get screwed out of money and how to protect yourself, should this also be a valid complaint of this article?

[metisdead]

Off topic obfuscation posts have been removed.

[user82374298374]

The receipt doesn't detail the banknote numbers so this would be a waste of time.

Untrue - if you can show the Thai police that you pulled X notes from the ATM machine, and you have less than X notes in your wallet, you can plausibly argue that if there was a counterfeit bill, you got it from the ATM.

That's how things work in Asia - plausible deniability.

[Satcommlee]

Has anybody actually got a 1000 Baht note in his change? I don't think so!

I'd be more wary of 500 Baht notes!

Although it is not unheard of to get a dodgy 1000 from the bank, so worth being vigilant!

[thairastawoman]

Are they going to make a drama for 1000 baht note ?

[thrilled]

Thailand needs to upgrade it's printing system.Counterfeiters are getting better all the time.

[GOLDBUGGY]

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Ok; so where is all the wonderful advice from Mr Plod about how to detect a bad note ? Are we supposed to check the number of every single bill we get from an ATM to make sure it's not the one quoted ?

In my experience nobody here checks notes when you hand them over, not even banks !

And if it is.....then what?

You pretty well can't give it back, Now can you?

You are right as I never see banks do that. But they may do that behind closed doors though as I never heard of a bank giving out funny money. But they do at a money changers for sure. The use an ultraviolet light.

[CBR250]

Are they going to make a drama for 1000 baht note ?

Nah, I'll bet you a 1000 thb they won't. But if I win, you have to pay in 100 thb notes......

[ronthai]

The ONLY 1000 baht paper bills I GET are from the ATM.

Don't worry, be HAPPY

[khrab]

Aren't ALL bank notes fake? --> Fiat money!

[MaxYakov]

Ok; so where is all the wonderful advice from Mr Plod about how to detect a bad note ? Are we supposed to check the number of every single bill we get from an ATM to make sure it's not the one quoted ?

In my experience nobody here checks notes when you hand them over, not even banks !

Maybe they should start checking.

[MaxYakov]

Are we supposed to check the number of every single bill we get from an ATM to make sure it's not the one quoted ?

You should always get a paper receipt when you withdraw cash from an ATM and keep it in your wallet as proof that you withdrew the cash from an ATM.

Correction: "as proof that someone withdrew some cash from an ATM". Jeesh!