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Camerata's Guide To The Permanent Residence Process

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Just now, scorecard said:

I think you are 100% correct.

My Red book has fallen apart on the spine and I guess 2 visits back at the very big Chiang Mai police centre the officer called an officer who came quickly, took my book and returned it 2 hrs later well repaired.

But since then it's fallen apart again. My Thai adult son is nowadays responsible for these book and he keeps them safe.

My last visit to the CM police centre was about 1 year back. Pleasant new officer, good English. Seems to be very knowledgeable.

When all completed he touched my son's hand to get his attenton, then asked me 'how old are you now?' I responded 81 years old.

He then looked at my son and said 'there's no bring your father again, just come around the 5 year date, bring the RED book and a new photo'.

I don't know if that's a national policy or just at CM.

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11 hours ago, scorecard said:

He then looked at my son and said 'there's no bring your father again, just come around the 5 year date, bring the RED book and a new photo'.

I haven't needed to provide a photo for the last two visits to the police station. I was advised that after twenty years a photo was no longer required.

42 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

I haven't needed to provide a photo for the last two visits to the police station. I was advised that after twenty years a photo was no longer required.

Interesting and logicl, I guess that one original purpose of the RED book updates was in reality a 'live'check whether the PR person was still alive. But check if alive at 5 year intervals is quite a gap.

Bottom line, the PR status is certainly handy and has value, even if it's not that well known.

Take care.

Have had PR for the past 35 years. Now elderly, I will no longer be travelling outside Thailand. Do I need to renew my UK passport?

On 7/14/2026 at 7:54 PM, Doctor Tom said:

Never heard of that rule. But as they have no idea of all of the rules themselves, it may well be BS. Many I know get a re entry permit with their annual extension each year, just in case, but don't necessarily use it. I have done that a few times myself.

A couple of years ago I went to get a new 12 month Exit Permit for PR, and it turned out I hadn't travelled out of Thailand in the past year. The officer said she needed to cancel the old one before she could issue a new one. Apparently it was a bureaucratic headache for her, involving the opening, stamping and reopening of several huge, dusty ledgers, plus lots of mumbled complaints about the process.

I was then advised to not get the exit stamp again until I was sure I was going to travel.

On 7/16/2026 at 1:42 PM, prakhonchai nick said:

Have had PR for the past 35 years. Now elderly, I will no longer be travelling outside Thailand. Do I need to renew my UK passport?

Do you have a pink ID card? If not, you may need a valid UK passport for banking, hotels etc

On 7/16/2026 at 1:42 PM, prakhonchai nick said:

Have had PR for the past 35 years. Now elderly, I will no longer be travelling outside Thailand. Do I need to renew my UK passport?

For immigration purposes probably not, but you may well need one in order to obtain banking services if you need to visit a bank or if they ask for KYC info. There are probably other instances unrelated to immigration where a passport may be necessary.

12 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

A couple of years ago I went to get a new 12 month Exit Permit for PR, and it turned out I hadn't travelled out of Thailand in the past year. The officer said she needed to cancel the old one before she could issue a new one. Apparently it was a bureaucratic headache for her, involving the opening, stamping and reopening of several huge, dusty ledgers, plus lots of mumbled complaints about the process.

I was then advised to not get the exit stamp again until I was sure I was going to travel.

I had the same experience years ago. I think I had used the multiple entry visa once, but still had a couple of months' validity on it. I was asked if I wanted to cancel the old one. I told the officer it did not have long enough validity to accommodate my planned trip. I did not hear any complaints, but could sense it would cause the officer additional work.

Recently got a new visa when the old one still had a week or so of validity but was not asked about cancellation.

43 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

Do you have a pink ID card? If not, you may need a valid UK passport for banking, hotels etc

And just in case you do need to fly back to UK for medical or family reasons.

If your UK passport is expired (perhaps for a long period) it may take some time and with complicaions to get it renewed.

A different point, if (repeat if) you receive a pension or similar benefits every month from the UK it's a bit surprising that the UK authorities haven't checked if you are still alive. (Many countries do check that you are still alive on 5 year or similar basis, Australia is one example).

On 7/14/2026 at 7:54 PM, Doctor Tom said:

Never heard of that rule. But as they have no idea of all of the rules themselves, it may well be BS. Many I know get a re entry permit with their annual extension each year, just in case, but don't necessarily use it. I have done that a few times myself.

Is it something to do with having permanent residence?

I think @Doctor Tom has left the building after his confused/confusing post.

18 hours ago, Purdey said:

Is it something to do with having permanent residence?

18 hours ago, Purdey said:

Is it something to do with having permanent residence?

18 hours ago, Purdey said:

Is it something to do with having permanent residence?

On 7/16/2026 at 8:35 AM, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

I haven't needed to provide a photo for the last two visits to the police station. I was advised that after twenty years a photo was no longer required.

Seems to me that when there's aleady several 5 year photo updates the photo becomes a moot point - some police stations which handle this update do want a new photo some don't. Brings the question: is this an actual regulation or a 'local regulation'?

However what does seem to be a national standard is that the PR holder or family member or agent must bring the RED book in and a new 5 year date added, but new photo not needed at some stations.

But this has another twist; as I've reported in this thread, August 2025 my Thai adult son took me to the police centre here in Chiang Mai where there is an office specific to this subject. The friendly officer, spoke good English asked me how old I was, I responded 81, the office then immediately told my son 'next time no need to bring your dad, just bring the red book and a new photo and some cash'.

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