jabenna Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Hello, I currently have a 1-year ED visa (I don't need to visit Dor Mor every 90 days) and a multiple re-entry permit. I need to go back to my home country for a month, maybe 2. Therefore I won't be attending my Thai school anymore. When I do return to Thailand, perhaps in October, I don't want to use the ED-visa as I won't have been at school for 2 months - and couldn't justify this to the immigration official. My question: How can I actually go about cancelling my visa? A school I've spoken with, who I may study with when I return in October, has said I need: to obtain a "cancellation" letter from my current school saying I have left them, to then take this to Immigration with my passport. They said Dor Mor will cancel my current ED visa and give me a VOA to tide me over until I leave Thailand to return to my home country. It's going to be difficult for me to get the letter from my current school and then get to Dor Mor in time before I leave Thailand. Is it not just possible that when I leave Thailand at the airport, to ask them to cancel my visa? Or is it possible for me to go to a Thai embassy in my home country and ask them to cancel it? If I did get a new ED-visa, ready to return to Thailand in October, would the new visa not just cancel out the old? Sorry to go round the houses with this one, but I couldn't think of a simpler way to explain it. Many thanks, JB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 If you cancel your ED-visa, your permisison tostay wil end on that day and you could get an extra 7 days to stay in Thailand for 1,900 baht. If there is a good reason for a break and you intend to study again when you re-enter, there is no need to cancel the ED-visa. A letter from the school that you leave Thailand for such and such reason and will continue to study when you come back might do the trick. An important factor for questioning at the airport will be at what kind of school you are studying. No problems for regular schools, while a language school or a course will need more convincing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabenna Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 Hi Mario, thanks for your reply. Thanks for info regarding only 7 days to stay. I'm studying at a language school. I can speak and read Thai well though. I'll ask my school if they can issue that letter. That'd be great. If they can't though, can the cancelling only be done at immigration? Could I just ask them at the airport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 You don't have to cancel your visa. Even if you finished study for this year, your visa is valid until 1 year from the first date of your visa. If any questions at immigration just bring your school documents. Sent from my SM-P601 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabenna Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 Hi Balo - thanks for the advice too. What document should I bring? The receipt from when I paid for my course? My 90-day reporting cards? I'll try and get the letter Mario mentioned too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Cancelling must be done at your immigraiton office, they wont do it at the airport, with a letter from the school. If you cna write Thai and are abe to write a few sentences in Thai on the spot at immigration they will have little problem believing that you are a real student. (A lot of the people they question can only speak a few words). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 You can ask the school to write a document that shows you've been studying and attended the class for several months already , just in case immigration wants to question you. But really shouldnt be a problem as long as your visa is valid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maswov Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Don't get a re-entry permit on the way out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Don't get a re-entry permit on the way out He already has a multiple re-entry permit that is why he needs to cancel the extension. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabenna Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 Balo and Mario - thanks again for the information. I'll grab a letter from the school for when I re-enter, then hopefully I won't have to cancel. Have a great weekend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Watcher Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 ... so if he went on holiday but then extended the holiday, he could just come back in and explain ?(Or better get a holiday leave letter from Immigration?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Considering that extension of stay for study is normally just 90 days, chances are that one is not even in country when it expires, so getting a re-entry permit is pointless. At that point one would just use the school papers to get a new ED visa abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udox Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I was at Nong Khai border last week on my way to Laos. One of the people in our group had an ED visa and was going to get a different visa, he assumed ( as we all would) that if he left without a re-entry permit, the unexpired portion of his ED visa would simply be invalid (cancelled by virtue of him leaving Thailand without a re-entry permit). Wrong. He was refused exit from the Thai border and spent several frantic hours corresponding with his school and several other people to get his ED visa 'cancelled' After a delay of several hours and a visit to Nong Khai immigration office - he finally got allowed out! Not sure what 'cancelling' entails - but just a warning for people to check beforehand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Watcher Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 So... If you say OK had enough of Thailand! And you decide to leave tomorrow - you are NOT allowed...??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapson Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 So... If you say OK had enough of Thailand! And you decide to leave tomorrow - you are NOT allowed...??? I was at Mukdahan immigration a couple of months back with a non b extended visa which I assumed was automatically cancelled on departure, wrong wrong had not been informed by my company visa dept it needed to be cancelled before exit...............so had a fit with the first official who suggested I return 5 hours to my home town............then to a supervisor who confirmed the same.......................... so I went into meltdown and was escorted to the head of immigration and I put this very question to him. If I was at the airport now awaiting a flight home would you refuse to allow me to exit the country and on what grounds? working on the correct visa but not cancelling it? No he said and.he took the point and was very amicable and after a promise of an email from the company the next day, a cancellation stamp was put in the passport and back to the border to exit! same lady simply refuses me again..................then.buggers off, 15 mins later finally comes back and with an angry mob fuming in the line behind me I am stamped out of Thailand! So at an airport you,ll likely be ok but at the land crossings when they probably rightly assume you,ll be quickly back, guess it becomes a drama! Finally a question for the resident experts, if you are on a non B visa of 3months NOT yet extended at immigration, would you need to cancel that first before exit at a land border? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 If he cancelled/stopped with his study immigrations wants a letter from the school stating the date he stopped. That date determines when one should leave the country and thus enables immigration to determine if someone on overstay (and should be fined) or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mario2008 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 A 90 day visa entry dos not need to be cancelled, it remains valid if one stops working. Only an extension of stay needs to be cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapson Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 A 90 day visa entry dos not need to be cancelled, it remains valid if one stops working. Only an extension of stay needs to be cancelled. Thanks for that Mario, so when this future scenario possibly unfolds for me in a few months I can simply leave anywhere anytime within the validity of the 90 days B visa and don't need to cancel it even if I quit or am fired after 1 week of the 90 days validity and can remain in country for its validity even if no longer employed! That would be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rachel99 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Hi, I just need to check if this is definitely true?: Mario2008, on 02 Aug 2014 - 17:01, said: A 90 day visa entry dos not need to be cancelled, it remains valid if one stops working. Only an extension of stay needs to be cancelled. If you're on a 90 day Non-Imm B (not an extension) and you leave a school before the WP is processed, can you definitely stay until the visa expires?....Even though you're not working?...What if the school contacts Immigration and informs them you are no longer working at the school? What if you want to leave the country many weeks before the visa expires -do you have to cancel it first? If you don't cancel it, will they detain you and need a letter from the school? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) Hi, I just need to check if this is definitely true?: Mario2008, on 02 Aug 2014 - 17:01, said: A 90 day visa entry dos not need to be cancelled, it remains valid if one stops working. Only an extension of stay needs to be cancelled. If you're on a 90 day Non-Imm B (not an extension) and you leave a school before the WP is processed, can you definitely stay until the visa expires?....Even though you're not working?...What if the school contacts Immigration and informs them you are no longer working at the school? What if you want to leave the country many weeks before the visa expires -do you have to cancel it first? If you don't cancel it, will they detain you and need a letter from the school? Why doubting? Of course what Maestro wrote is correct. A visa cannot be cancelled and not working is not an infraction, in fact in your example one can't work because of no work permit. Edited November 23, 2014 by paz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingsaucersarereal Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) So if my ED extension ends on June 27 should my cancellation letter also say June 27th on it? Edited May 23, 2015 by flyingsaucersarereal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 It could be dated before June 27th but you must leave on or before that date. After that date you could be charged for overstay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigt3116 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 " I currently have a 1-year ED visa (I don't need to visit Dor Mor every 90 days) and a multiple re-entry permit. " How can you have a Multi-entry Non-Ed VISA and a multi re-entry permit ? That makes no sense at all ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigt3116 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 If you cancel your ED-visa, your permisison tostay wil end on that day and you could get an extra 7 days to stay in Thailand for 1,900 baht. If there is a good reason for a break and you intend to study again when you re-enter, there is no need to cancel the ED-visa. A letter from the school that you leave Thailand for such and such reason and will continue to study when you come back might do the trick. An important factor for questioning at the airport will be at what kind of school you are studying. No problems for regular schools, while a language school or a course will need more convincing. Visas are not cancelled ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fey Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Forget it man, your short on time. Just leave before the stamp expires. On the way back in just read the stamp and do what you got to do. Let them figure out the rest if someone's interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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