Being Extorted -- 10k for a dead cat.

[Nautilus05]

That's a bit expensive, is it not?  10,000 THB for a dead cat?

 

I'm sorry, but I don't feel responsible for that cat getting killed.  We've been here almost a year exactly, so it's no secret two dogs live in this yard, and the cat is always around, so it knew this as well.  I was just having a nap, and the front door was open as usual, with the dogs out in the (gated & fenced) yard.  I get woken up to some cat screaming for their lives, and by the time I get dressed, downstairs, and outside the cat is already 95% dead.

 

So I just went back inside for 10 minutes, and let my one dog finish the thing off.  It was WAY past the point of salvation, so trying to rescue it would have done nothing except prolong its suffering.  By the time I got to it, it was already a goner.  Then I threw some work gloves on, wrapped it up in a bunch of plastic bags + couple black garbage bags, and pitched it into the garbage bin.  Apparently someone seen this though, and the owner of the cat, because they came by and told me I owe them 10k because my dogs killed their cat.

 

I'm sorry, but how is it my fault your cat came into my yard?  It's not like my dogs were roaming the streets.

 

Edited August 2, 2014 by Nautilus05

[Neeranam]

Did the cat ave a collar on? If not, it was a stray IMO.

 

You have a choice, show the neighbourhood that you are a gullible foreigner or tell them where to go. Probably not even their cat. 

 

 

If they still harass you, ask them to meet you in the police station and before you go slip one of the officers a bottle of whisky before they do.

Edited August 2, 2014 by Neeranam

[David48]

I liked the one when the car driver drove over the dog.

 

Same but different?

[Thaddeus]

Assisted suicide...... send them a bill.

[Neeranam]

I liked the one when the car driver drove over the dog.

 

Same but different?

What one?

[konying]

Truly incredible !!!

I hope neighbors take it all the way and make you pay and after you pay , make your life a miserable nightmare.

One thing is not seeing or knowing, another "letting one dog finish it"

[David48]

I liked the one when the car driver drove over the dog.

 

Same but different?

 

What one?

 

 

Mate, earlier this year.

 

Went on for over 10 pages ... might have even hit the 20 pages mark.

 

Sorry I can't be more precise.

 

Maybe one of the other members can remember it.

 

 

But we do digress from the OP's predicament.

 

Who has, by his own admission, two castrated aggressive (fiercely protective) canines.

 

Which, inside his own place, is perfectly reasonable.
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[Neeranam]

Truly incredible !!!

I hope neighbors take it all the way and make you pay and after you pay , make your life a miserable nightmare.

One thing is not seeing or knowing, another "letting one dog finish it"

He did nothing wrong. Letting the dog finish the nearly dead cat was compassionate.

[onionluke]

The person who saw you throwing their pet cat in the bin probably knows your dog stares at you when it is shagging your doctor martin boots .

[ATF]

You have to be careful that someone doesn't throw some poisoned meat over your wall so I would let your GF go and talk to them and ask them to prove it was their cat.

 

Do they have a pic? 10k is way too much but if you don't ask you don't get.

 

If it really was their cat offer to buy them a nice cat of their choosing and give them one of those baskets full of food they sell in the supermarkets or a bottle of scotch. I doubt their cat was a pedigree.

[konying]

 

Truly incredible !!!

I hope neighbors take it all the way and make you pay and after you pay , make your life a miserable nightmare.

One thing is not seeing or knowing, another "letting one dog finish it"

He did nothing wrong. Letting the dog finish the nearly dead cat was compassionate.

 

Says who? you or God?

It is better to be beaten to death or beaten almost to death?

Is OP a veterinarian to determine cats health at the time?

He HAD to get dressed to go down in his own house? truly caring and compassionate human being, should be rewarded

[Nautilus05]

Truly incredible !!!

I hope neighbors take it all the way and make you pay and after you pay , make your life a miserable nightmare.

One thing is not seeing or knowing, another "letting one dog finish it"

 

Huh?  Well, what would you have done?  Scared the dogs off, took the cat inside, put it on a towel, and let it twitch in agonizing pain & suffering while gasping for air for the next 30 - 60 minutes before it finally died?  By the time I got to it, it was way past the point of no return, so when I decided to let my dog "finish it", it probably stopped breathing within 2 - 3 minutes.  I'd say that was the most humane thing to do.

 

Then it's not like I left it there for my dogs to use as a chew toy / meal.  I was back out right away, after I knew it was dead.  Honestly though, that was mainly because I was worried about what diseases the cat may be carrying.

[AnotherOneAmerican]

Just say no.
No, I didn't see anything.
No, I don't know anything.
No, I didn't do anything.
No, I'm not paying anything.

[JockPieandBeans]

" He HAD to get dressed to go down in his own house? truly caring and compassionate human being, should be rewarded "

 

Sorry, I do not understand this. When my dog starts going ape in the middle of the night, I throw on shorts and t-shirt and then go and see what the commotion is about.

[Tao Diver]

I would offer the guy a token amount so he can walk away as if he has won. If not you are going t be woken one night with your dogs howling in agony and you having to watch them die through poisoning. Had it happen a couple of times now and it is not nice to watch. It all depends on how much you think of your dogs really.

I had a pitbull that was kept in a gated garden yet he never bothered any of the various strays that wondered into the garden during the day and night. I would say that dogs that rip any animals they get near need to be taught how to behave. 

[EBlair48]

 

Truly incredible !!!

I hope neighbors take it all the way and make you pay and after you pay , make your life a miserable nightmare.

One thing is not seeing or knowing, another "letting one dog finish it"

 

Huh?  Well, what would you have done?  Scared the dogs off, took the cat inside, put it on a towel, and let it twitch in agonizing pain & suffering while gasping for air for the next 30 - 60 minutes before it finally died?  By the time I got to it, it was way past the point of no return, so when I decided to let my dog "finish it", it probably stopped breathing within 2 - 3 minutes.  I'd say that was the most humane thing to do.

 

Then it's not like I left it there for my dogs to use as a chew toy / meal.  I was back out right away, after I knew it was dead.  Honestly though, that was mainly because I was worried about what diseases the cat may be carrying.

 

 

. I don't think you owe  money,  IF the cat indeed wondered into your yard  but I don't think you acted properly, either.

 

A cat goes into a yard where there are dogs? I have to doubt the entire post, however for the sake of conversation-
The point where you did not take responsibility for an animal  being attacked on your property, at hands of your dogs  is where you go wrong.

  Get the dogs away from it,  spare it the " two ,three... ten  minutes" of continued attack. 

Decapitation or breaking the neck is an excellent  and safe for you emergency euthanasia if the animal is that " far gone". Every one has a large knife in their kitchen,  just whack it on the neck

"Gone too far.." indicates prone and motionless, so no danger to you.

 

And sounds to me you did allow it to be a chew toy for two or three minutes or was it four or five? You mention ten minutes, too.

However  dogs usually immediately  just shake a cat and break it's neck. I  have had several  die this way from neighborhood packs and one pet dog, ( who then went bye bye ) . 

 

" Too far gone..to help..."  you are simply avoiding dealing with it.

 

 I think throwing it it the garbage is a bit irresponsible too. You might have asked around  first if it was someone's pet.

 

 You may well have brought on the demise of your dogs, and poisoning is a horrid way to go for them.

 

 

Edited August 2, 2014 by EBlair48

[chrisinth]

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Just say no.
No, I didn't see anything.
No, I don't know anything.
No, I didn't do anything.
No, I'm not paying anything.

 

No it wasn't me putting the cat in the bin.

 

Think he might be past the point of denial. But OP, 10k is a lot for a cat even with emotional issues included. Go to the pet shop and get them a kitten.

 

With a collar and nametag......................

[opalred]

can get a lot of the  good pussy for that kind of money

[EBlair48]

^^Get a kitten from  a shelter or temple. The pet stores are horrid places and I hate seeing anyone patronize them.

Edited August 2, 2014 by EBlair48

[Phra Ek]

Sorry - but you sound like another selfish dog owner.  So many dog owners seem to believe their dogs have a divine right to bark, dump and maim and it's just never their fault.  I guess the owners of the Pit Bull who savaged the lady in Hua Hin (in the news today) are also feeling hard done to.

[96tehtarp]

RIP poor little kitty.

 

My 4 cats have killed at least 50 of my neighbor's free range chickens (chicks) that were constantly coming into my front yard.

 

I have had no attempts to extort money from my neighbor and we have good relations.

 

I suggest you simply smile and be nice and sympathetic and polite and wait and see if this extortion attempt goes any further. The chances are this problem will go away all by itself without you having to pay anything.

 

The police are really going to be bothered having to deal with this.

 

Relax.

Edited August 2, 2014 by 96tehtarp

[tonytigerbkk]

Good to see that the so called animal lovers on this thread believe that it would be better for the cat to have died in lingering agony.

 

To the OP, I would not pay a penny, the cat came onto your property, how are you responsible for this.

The selfish cat owner who lets their animal roam freely over other people's property is fully to blame.

 

Where I live I have exactly the same problem of irresponsible pet owners.

Over the time that I have lived in Thailand I have had neighbours cats come onto my property and jump up onto the roof of my car(s), I have had cats scratch into the paintwork of 3 new cars.

 

I do not want a cat and I am allergic to cats, so why should I be forced to put up with these mangy creatures invading my property. 

 

[tonytigerbkk]

Sorry - but you sound like another selfish dog owner.  So many dog owners seem to believe their dogs have a divine right to bark, dump and maim and it's just never their fault.  I guess the owners of the Pit Bull who savaged the lady in Hua Hin (in the news today) are also feeling hard done to.

 

Are you mental, the dogs were on the OPs property, the cat wasn't on its owner's property.
 

Edited August 2, 2014 by tonytigerbkk

[chrisinth]

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Truly incredible !!!

I hope neighbors take it all the way and make you pay and after you pay , make your life a miserable nightmare.

One thing is not seeing or knowing, another "letting one dog finish it"

 

Huh?  Well, what would you have done?  Scared the dogs off, took the cat inside, put it on a towel, and let it twitch in agonizing pain & suffering while gasping for air for the next 30 - 60 minutes before it finally died?  By the time I got to it, it was way past the point of no return, so when I decided to let my dog "finish it", it probably stopped breathing within 2 - 3 minutes.  I'd say that was the most humane thing to do.

 

Then it's not like I left it there for my dogs to use as a chew toy / meal.  I was back out right away, after I knew it was dead.  Honestly though, that was mainly because I was worried about what diseases the cat may be carrying.

 

 

. I don't think you owe  money,  IF the cat indeed wondered into your yard  but I don't think you acted properly, either.

 

A cat goes into a yard where there are dogs? I have to doubt the entire post, however for the sake of conversation-
The point where you did not take responsibility for an animal  being attacked on your property, at hands of your dogs  is where you go wrong.

  Get the dogs away from it,  spare it the " two ,three... ten  minutes" of continued attack. 

Decapitation or breaking the neck is an excellent  and safe for you emergency euthanasia if the animal is that " far gone". Every one has a large knife in their kitchen,  just whack it on the neck

"Gone too far.." indicates prone and motionless, so no danger to you.

 

And sounds to me you did allow it to be a chew toy for two or three minutes or was it four or five? You mention ten minutes, too.

However  dogs usually immediately  just shake a cat and break it's neck. I  have had several  die this way from neighborhood packs and one pet dog, ( who then went bye bye ) . 

 

" Too far gone..to help..."  you are simply avoiding dealing with it.

 

 I think throwing it it the garbage is a bit irresponsible too. You might have asked around  first if it was someone's pet.

 

 You may well have brought on the demise of your dogs, and poisoning is a horrid way to go for them.

 

 

 

 

Your point about cats going into yards where there are dogs, I would disagree. We have two dogs and almost every evening we have cats around the house. Fair enough, the dogs are inside some of the time.

 

Buut, I am sure in their animal kingdom understanding, the cats know they are dead if the dogs ever get them. They are two fully grown Siberians with an extremely high prey drive. Anything small and furry is fair game to them. No problem with humans or other dogs, but small and furry? Gerbils, rats, you name it..............

 

In fact, recently I have had to put them on a lead in the park where they used to free-roam because they nearly had a little girl's rabbit, that she had out for a walk on a lead! True story.

[konying]

Truly incredible !!!

I hope neighbors take it all the way and make you pay and after you pay , make your life a miserable nightmare.

One thing is not seeing or knowing, another "letting one dog finish it"

 
Huh?  Well, what would you have done?  Scared the dogs off, took the cat inside, put it on a towel, and let it twitch in agonizing pain & suffering while gasping for air for the next 30 - 60 minutes before it finally died?  By the time I got to it, it was way past the point of no return, so when I decided to let my dog "finish it", it probably stopped breathing within 2 - 3 minutes.  I'd say that was the most humane thing to do.
 
Then it's not like I left it there for my dogs to use as a chew toy / meal.  I was back out right away, after I knew it was dead.  Honestly though, that was mainly because I was worried about what diseases the cat may be carrying.

I would have rushed my ass without getting "dressed" got the dogs off and taken cat to a Vet, but that's just me, I am not a compassionate person like yourself

[h90]

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Truly incredible !!!

I hope neighbors take it all the way and make you pay and after you pay , make your life a miserable nightmare.

One thing is not seeing or knowing, another "letting one dog finish it"

 

Huh?  Well, what would you have done?  Scared the dogs off, took the cat inside, put it on a towel, and let it twitch in agonizing pain & suffering while gasping for air for the next 30 - 60 minutes before it finally died?  By the time I got to it, it was way past the point of no return, so when I decided to let my dog "finish it", it probably stopped breathing within 2 - 3 minutes.  I'd say that was the most humane thing to do.

 

Then it's not like I left it there for my dogs to use as a chew toy / meal.  I was back out right away, after I knew it was dead.  Honestly though, that was mainly because I was worried about what diseases the cat may be carrying.

 

 

. I don't think you owe  money,  IF the cat indeed wondered into your yard  but I don't think you acted properly, either.

 

A cat goes into a yard where there are dogs? I have to doubt the entire post, however for the sake of conversation-
The point where you did not take responsibility for an animal  being attacked on your property, at hands of your dogs  is where you go wrong.

  Get the dogs away from it,  spare it the " two ,three... ten  minutes" of continued attack. 

Decapitation or breaking the neck is an excellent  and safe for you emergency euthanasia if the animal is that " far gone". Every one has a large knife in their kitchen,  just whack it on the neck

"Gone too far.." indicates prone and motionless, so no danger to you.

 

And sounds to me you did allow it to be a chew toy for two or three minutes or was it four or five? You mention ten minutes, too.

However  dogs usually immediately  just shake a cat and break it's neck. I  have had several  die this way from neighborhood packs and one pet dog, ( who then went bye bye ) . 

 

" Too far gone..to help..."  you are simply avoiding dealing with it.

 

 I think throwing it it the garbage is a bit irresponsible too. You might have asked around  first if it was someone's pet.

 

 You may well have brought on the demise of your dogs, and poisoning is a horrid way to go for them.

 

 

 

 

Your point about cats going into yards where there are dogs, I would disagree. We have two dogs and almost every evening we have cats around the house. Fair enough, the dogs are inside some of the time.

 

Buut, I am sure in their animal kingdom understanding, the cats know they are dead if the dogs ever get them. They are two fully grown Siberians with an extremely high prey drive. Anything small and furry is fair game to them. No problem with humans or other dogs, but small and furry? Gerbils, rats, you name it..............

 

In fact, recently I have had to put them on a lead in the park where they used to free-roam because they nearly had a little girl's rabbit, that she had out for a walk on a lead! True story.

 

To my surprise my dog shares his food with birds, watching them when they finish his food. Sometimes he is just 30 cm away from them.

But cats are another story......

 

Usually a cat that isn't complete degenerated doesn't go close to dogs, is way faster and can climb. But I can catch these overfeed cats of some neighbors....

[Nautilus05]

A cat goes into a yard where there are dogs? I have to doubt the entire post, however for the sake of conversation-

 

*shrug*  I don't know, but I'm quite confident that was the carcass of a dead cat I threw into the garbage.  I'm not sure how / why the cat came into the yard, but he's always been around, especially at night.  My backdoor is just a screen door, and nearly every night one of my dogs will let out a quick bark or two, because the cat is walking on top of the wall.

 

 

The point where you did not take responsibility for an animal  being attacked on your property, at hands of your dogs  is where you go wrong.

I'm sorry, but I disagree.  I take excellent care of my dogs, and am probably one of the more respectable dog owners around.  They're only allowed out in the (gated & fenced) yard between 8:30am - 3:30pm (while everyone is at school / work / wherever).  Then again between about 9pm and 11pm (after dinner and evening commotion), and that's it.  And for the longest time they weren't even allowed out between 9 - 11pm, but have since realized there's no barking allowed once the sun goes down, and have been excellent about it.

 

How about people take care of their own pets, and I'll take care of mine?  If you want to let your pets aimlessly wander around the streets, go for it, but don't get surprised when something happens to one of them -- hit by a car, bitten by a snake, attacked by dogs, etc.

 

 

 

Decapitation or breaking the neck is an excellent  and safe for you emergency euthanasia if the animal is that " far gone". Every one has a large knife in their kitchen,  just whack it on the neck

"Gone too far.." indicates prone and motionless, so no danger to you.

 

 

Ahhh...  so I should have gotten my dog away from it, took it into the kitchen, put it on a cutting board, and chopped its head off with a knife.  That would have been much more humane.  Alright, will remember that for next time.  I'm curious, should I yell out "Allah akBhar!" when I do that, or no need?

 

Edited August 2, 2014 by Nautilus05

[giddyup]

If you kept birds and the cat in question managed to get in to the aviary and kill all your prized parakeets, would the cat's owner have been happy to compensate you? He would have said, "that's what cats do, it's their nature".

[ATF]

 

Ahhh...  so I should have gotten my dog away from it, took it into the kitchen, put it on a cutting board, and chopped its head off with a knife.  That would have been much more humane.  Alright, will remember that for next time.  I'm curious, should I yell out "Allah akBhar!" when I do that, or no need?

 

 

No doubt this is an unfortunate incident and to be honest I don't like Pit Bulls and Rottweilers but chopping the cat's head off and parading around the village asking people do they know this cat would have been slightly insane.

 

Why didn't you just let the dogs eat the cat?
 

[apetley]

I don't like dogs.
I love my cat.
If my cat wanders onto somebody elses property and gets attacked by their dog I accept the consequences.
I wouldn't pay any money if I were in your position.