August 2, 201412 yr The topic says it all. So much dairy here is fake, be it all these "Butter Blends" or "Butter Products" that are just palm oil and a touch of milk fat. Right down too even the humble sweetened condensed milk..that ISN'T, it too isn't real milk but, palm oil and other fake crap. Real butter is 6 TIMES the current cost in the US even with butter prices rising. Heavy cream and other real dairy products are sickeningly expensive as well. I own a small bakery that focuses on yummy sort of home baked sweets done in old school US, like your grandma made kind of style and for that I need real butter and rich dairy. But I have yet to find it at a price that makes anything like sense. Dose anyone know where I can get good dairy in bulk, and a non inflated price? And BTW, why the heck is it so damm expensive here anyway? It's 6 times the cost in the States, crazy. The first one to help successfully gets some of my yummy "Brownies of Life" as a thank you. I already tried the obvious, Macro, Ok Bakery supply, American Euro, Sino Siam, even Choc Chai dairy farms directly. No luck. Thanks
August 2, 201412 yr We would need to know what area you are in. PS Many bakery products taste better with margarine. Butter produces a 'heavy' result. Edited August 2, 201412 yr by AnotherOneAmerican
August 2, 201412 yr PS Many bakery products taste better with margarine. Butter produces a 'heavy' result. Examples, please?
August 2, 201412 yr One reason that dairy prices are lower in the USA and Europe is massive government subsidies to the dairy industry. That said, top quality good European butter imported into thailand is nowhere near 6 times the cost of what it is in the usa. I did a cursory search and compared the cost of Land O' Lakes unsalted butter. a top quality brand, to Emborg imported unsalted butter. On a kilo basis the Land O' Lakes cost 326 baht per kilo and the Emborg about 405. I suspect you've been away from wherever you come from for far too long. Dairy prices have risen sharply all around the world. Thai dairy prices are merely responding to world market forces. Edited August 2, 201412 yr by quidnunc
August 3, 201411 yr We would need to know what area you are in. PS Many bakery products taste better with margarine. Butter produces a 'heavy' result. I should have been clearer in my question. I was asking for examples of butter producing a heavy result.
August 3, 201411 yr Palm Oil margarine is 45bht/Kg. It makes a great shortening. And none of that nasty butter flavor.
August 3, 201411 yr Palm Oil margarine is 45bht/Kg. It makes a great shortening. And none of that nasty butter flavor. I doubt anyone would be able to tell the difference. Would be good to see some blind testing that wasn't done with an outcome in mind.
August 4, 201411 yr Author Thanks for the help, I'm in Bangkok, but I wouldn't care where the source was in Thailand, it means enough too me to that I would either go and get it or arrange for delivery. That said, on the butter price, After looking again at Cosco and Walmart and comparing it too Emborg It's not 6times it's just double. 209 Stateside compared to around 400 baht per KG. And even with buying in bulk, Emborg is really not significantly cheaper than buying Allowrie from the local market Still pretty ugly. And while I respect that some people prefer the taste of artificially flavored palm oil to real butter, or perhaps are lactose intolerant, I like to use real butter as to keep the recipes closer to what I grew up with. But I don't want to have to charge crazy money just to make it taste right.
August 4, 201411 yr buying Allowrie from the local market Not sure Allowrie is real butter, read the label carefully.
August 4, 201411 yr Author Good Point. Yes you really do have to double check that label. They often sell fake crap under the label of "Butter Product" or "Butter Blend" thats between 12-35% butter fat depending on the type. Real butter from them is labeled "Pure Creamery Butter" and is 81% and sells for roughly 180 baht per lbs. Sold in either 1lbs or 2lbs bricks.
August 9, 201411 yr We buy fresh unpasteurised full cream milk from a cooperative in chiangmai. They sell it by the kg at 20b per kg. Comes in plastic bags
February 18, 201511 yr Just give the DPO a call and ask them where your nearest dairy is. http://www.dpo.go.th
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