webfact Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Day two of taxi meter rules enforcement but has it made any difference in Koh Samui? KOH SAMUI: -- Yesterday, Mother’s Day in Thailand, marked the official day for the start of the crack down on the use of meters in taxis in Koh Samui after an order from the National Council for Peace and Order.The decision to try to cure the age old problem of taxi drivers flatly refusing to use meters was made on the 4th of July.It was hoped that the order would be respected by local taxi drivers however, reports that the new regulations are not being adhered to are quickly circulating and the Samui Times would like to know if our Samui based readers who use local taxi services are noticing the changes or if it is business as usual for taxi drivers who charge considerably higher fares than those calculated by meters.Hotline numbers and an email addresses have been provided for members of the public to report non compliant taxi drivers and we would like to hear from anybody who has been given cause to use 1155, 077-414-231, [email protected] or [email protected] .You can contact the Samui Times by leaving a comment under this post or sending your taxi experience stories to [email protected]-- Samui Times 2014-08-13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tao Diver Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Did anyone on Samui honestly believe they would all simply start using their meters like they are supposed to by law ? You can also guarantee that the surcharge will be Per Person as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rooo Posted August 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2014 I just hope that they have taken on more then they can chew. The current regime doesn't take lightly to being made fools off. Waiting with baited breath for episode 3. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iReason Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 The Mayor of Surat tried to sort this out years ago. The agreement was a surcharge to be added of 90B and they had to use their meters. They posted signs on the Taxis stating this. That lasted about a nano-second. Now, they think these thugs are going to go for a 50B surcharge? These swindlers didn't know when to quit while they were ahead. (legally) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spidermike007 Posted August 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2014 One can only hope. The concept of any sort of discipline, law and order, or enforcement in Samui is something many long time natives can only dream about. Samui does not need a US, or UK type of big brother law and order. But, a small amount of enforcement would be nice. How about the famous smoking ban? When was the last time you saw a restaurant in Samui with no smoking signs posted, anywhere? The taxis on Samui have long been a blight on the landscape. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post monkeycountry Posted August 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) "Samui Times would like to know if our Samui based readers who use local taxi services" While I very much appreciate Samui Times following up on this, I doubt there are any TV readers who use Samui taxis. Most if not all likely found alternative options long ago. As I said before, even the tourists avoid the Samui taxi mafia like the plague. It does not matter if a highway robber has a sign saying 50 or 500 baht, you still do not approach him willingly Edited August 13, 2014 by monkeycountry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tao Diver Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I know of loads of customers charged 800 Baht to go from the airport arrivals to the Seatran pier. All of about a KM or so. What next. The junta telling the Jetski boys to just say Mai Pen Rai sir, not worry, no charge, its only a scratch. Have a good day and enjoy the rest of your holiday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerousdan99 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) I took a taxi to the airport from Lamai on August 12th. I almost never take taxis as my girlfriend usually drives me, but she was occupied. I got in the cab and told him in Thai that I was going to the airport. He started driving and I noticed that there was some paper covering the meter. I asked him if he had to start using the meter now. He said, Oh, it's very expensive. 100 baht surcharge and other charges. To go to airport will be about 800 baht. I asked him how much for the airport and he said 500 baht which is the usual going rate I've had before.I didn't report him to the hotlines because I know him from living in Lamai. I'm not scared of him or the taxi mafia, I just know who he is and he's a nice enough guy.The taxis aren't taking this seriously in Samui, and frankly the police force isn't equipped to handle policing the amount of taxis there. Edited August 13, 2014 by dangerousdan99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Sorry Dan - I cannot see that he is a 'nice enough guy'. At 500 baht he's ripping you off. Surely a nice guy would put you on the meter and add 100 baht at the end of the journey or am I missing something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonShadow Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I took a taxi to the airport from Lamai on August 12th. I almost never take taxis as my girlfriend usually drives me, but she was occupied. I got in the cab and told him in Thai that I was going to the airport. He started driving and I noticed that there was some paper covering the meter. I asked him if he had to start using the meter now. He said, Oh, it's very expensive. 100 baht surcharge and other charges. To go to airport will be about 800 baht. I asked him how much for the airport and he said 500 baht which is the usual going rate I've had before. I didn't report him to the hotlines because I know him from living in Lamai. I'm not scared of him or the taxi mafia, I just know who he is and he's a nice enough guy. The taxis aren't taking this seriously in Samui, and frankly the police force isn't equipped to handle policing the amount of taxis there. Not long ago I took an international flight Langkawi-Singapore and it cost the equivalent of THB 500.....they are still posting prices at the roadside stating Maenam-Bang Por (approx 4KM) THB 300!!! and maenam Chawaeng THB 500.....nothing will change until somebody stamps on them....the fuel price difference between Samui and the mainland is approx 2 baht per litre...no a massive difference..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 the fuel price difference between Samui and the mainland is approx 2 baht per litre...no a massive difference..... Taxis run on LPG nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBser Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) I checked with 5 taxis in Chaweng. They refuse to use the meters. They get aggressive when I confront them. They just put the sticker up to make the army happy. Nothing has changed! The hotlines don't even work their always busy and never connected. Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Edited August 13, 2014 by SirBser 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinostar Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Even in Bangkok they still try not to use the meter; reason; traffic is heavy LOL. But if you insist and put your foot down they eventually will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wat dee Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I took a taxi to the airport from Lamai on August 12th. I almost never take taxis as my girlfriend usually drives me, but she was occupied. I got in the cab and told him in Thai that I was going to the airport. He started driving and I noticed that there was some paper covering the meter. I asked him if he had to start using the meter now. He said, Oh, it's very expensive. 100 baht surcharge and other charges. To go to airport will be about 800 baht. I asked him how much for the airport and he said 500 baht which is the usual going rate I've had before. I didn't report him to the hotlines because I know him from living in Lamai. I'm not scared of him or the taxi mafia, I just know who he is and he's a nice enough guy. The taxis aren't taking this seriously in Samui, and frankly the police force isn't equipped to handle policing the amount of taxis there. Nice to see that local population is really keen to change things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxe1200 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 When some driver "forgets" to switch on the meter, I remind him to switch it on. As I only pay, whatever is on the meter. Never had a problem in Bangkok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likener1 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Sorry Dan - I cannot see that he is a 'nice enough guy'. At 500 baht he's ripping you off. Surely a nice guy would put you on the meter and add 100 baht at the end of the journey or am I missing something? I would have thought using the meter and not adding 100 baht at the end of the journey would be what a nice guy does. I've never used a taxi in Samui or Phuket because I would be not only be overcharged but be condoning their actions by doing so. No way am I putting any money in these guys pockets until they use their meters, without any unwarranted "extra" charges. Probably going to be an extremely long wait. Are the military going to stand up to these people - only time will tell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdome Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I have been a Samui man for over 25yrs [lamai]..in this time they [taxi drivers] have got worse..they are "thugs"..bullys they even threaten violence if you ask for the meter...they are a law 2 them selves...always have been always will be..police don't care nor does the Governor of Surat..don't care who's in power they will do what they want.Slap them with a fine not 200bht...make it at least 2000bht that will shake them up....hopefully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooo Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I know of loads of customers charged 800 Baht to go from the airport arrivals to the Seatran pier. All of about a KM or so. What next. The junta telling the Jetski boys to just say Mai Pen Rai sir, not worry, no charge, its only a scratch. Have a good day and enjoy the rest of your holiday Look at what the army has done in Phuket, now Hua Hin , they are not that silly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiPiFFS Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I know of loads of customers charged 800 Baht to go from the airport arrivals to the Seatran pier. All of about a KM or so. What next. The junta telling the Jetski boys to just say Mai Pen Rai sir, not worry, no charge, its only a scratch. Have a good day and enjoy the rest of your holiday Look at what the army has done in Phuket, now Hua Hin , they are not that silly. Sarcasm and humour seem to fly over heads on TV. I think he was taking the Michael I am waiting for them to turn up here on Koh Tao and start ripping down 3 storey buildings right on the beach and tearing down houses built up the mountains. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samuibruno Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 hopefully its only a matter of time to make it work on samui Thailand is a large country and so very much for the army to enforce/change every body needs to keep reporting these guys over and over and over hopefully, eventually, we will be heard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 the fuel price difference between Samui and the mainland is approx 2 baht per litre...no a massive difference..... Taxis run on LPG nowadays. I think that is only the newer ones PS. The taxi drivers that I know all use gasoline. These are the lower number taxis (up to number 300) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trouble Posted August 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2014 Obviously the problem could be solved easily by having undercover police (honest ones) get in taxi and see if drivers are following the law. No fines for violating, just take the taxi out of service for a week which hurts the taxi owner and also then prohibit the taxi driver from driving for a week. Next offense impound it for a month, fine the driver heavily, prohibit him from working for a month. If the penalty was severe enough it would all come into line. Problem is there is no significant punishment for violating the rules. Paying a 200 baht fine for overcharging 400 baht is a no brainer for the taxi driver. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rooo Posted August 13, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2014 One my neighbours posted on FB : I just saw soldiers pulling over taxi's, at a checkpoint, heading from Lamai to Chaweng, and they had even set up table to process paper. Not sure if it was enforcing new taxi decrees, but it sure looked like it 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Sorry Dan - I cannot see that he is a 'nice enough guy'. At 500 baht he's ripping you off. Surely a nice guy would put you on the meter and add 100 baht at the end of the journey or am I missing something? I would have thought using the meter and not adding 100 baht at the end of the journey would be what a nice guy does. I've never used a taxi in Samui or Phuket because I would be not only be overcharged but be condoning their actions by doing so. No way am I putting any money in these guys pockets until they use their meters, without any unwarranted "extra" charges. Probably going to be an extremely long wait. Are the military going to stand up to these people - only time will tell. To be fair to the taxi drivers (and I hate saying that ) the 50 baht flag up and the 50 baht surcharge are government approved charges. Nothing illegal in them. Whether right or wrong, it is pretty naive to expect taxis on Samui to be the same price as taxis in Bangkok. It is a lot more expensive here. (Just ask the Bangkok girls that come to work in the banks for a stint.) Do not get me wrong - I personally hate what the taxi drivers are doing and I will boycott them until things change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredNL Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 The chance that laws are enforced on Koh Samui is equal to Thailand winning the Football World Cup 2018 !!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 The chance that laws are enforced on Koh Samui is equal to Thailand winning the Football World Cup 2018 !!! You obviously missed post 23. I am sure that they will be enforced - but for how long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropicalevo Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Well - it seems that I was wrong. (What a surprise.) Having heard from a few people that arrived on the island this week - some newbies and some are returning residents - Samui taxi drivers are not using the meters. When asked to turn on the meter - the reply was usually 'get out of the taxi!' No one that commented had reported the taxi driver! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigC Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Obviously the problem could be solved easily by having undercover police (honest ones) get in taxi and see if drivers are following the law. No fines for violating, just take the taxi out of service for a week which hurts the taxi owner and also then prohibit the taxi driver from driving for a week. Next offense impound it for a month, fine the driver heavily, prohibit him from working for a month. If the penalty was severe enough it would all come into line. Problem is there is no significant punishment for violating the rules. Paying a 200 baht fine for overcharging 400 baht is a no brainer for the taxi driver. Well in all fairness it is fraud specially taxis with modified meters They should be charged with fraud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolut Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Nearly 2 weeks now, any progress with taxi's using meters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmine Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) Well - it seems that I was wrong. (What a surprise.) Having heard from a few people that arrived on the island this week - some newbies and some are returning residents - Samui taxi drivers are not using the meters. When asked to turn on the meter - the reply was usually 'get out of the taxi!' No one that commented had reported the taxi driver! To be fair, if they report the driver whats going to happen? Nothing. Will the police act? Ofcourse not. All that will happen is an unwanted disruption to their holiday. Where theres a will theres a way and i think that most, if not all here realize that the army just telling them to turn on the meters was never going to do a thing. Without being physically made to do so they will not. Edited August 26, 2014 by carmine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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