choochoo Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) OP, it sounds like you are against Thai women marrying up. So what should they do if they become more productive and self sufficient as you suggest? Marry down? Be single? Lots of issarn girls marry up.........................lol. Still after all these years i cant UnDersTanD how they do it. God bless them. Edited August 25, 2014 by choochoo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gecko123 Posted August 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) This whole thread is a waste of time because there is no notion of love here in Thailand. Did you really intend to suggest that love is not part of the Thai emotional palette, or that all relationships here can be distilled down to a quid pro quo exchange of financial support for sexual favors and child bearing services? My friend, if you really and truly believe this, I can only say that this is simply not true. I would urge you to try and observe more closely how Thais interact with each other, and endeavor to shed any preconceptions you might have about how things ought to be. One book I can recommend which might help deepen your understanding and see past initial superficial impressions of Asian culture is 'The Chrysanthemum and the Sword,' by Ruth Benedict. While focused on Japan, many of the insights provided in this book are equally applicable to other Asian countries. Anyone who thinks Asian women are subservient would benefit from reading this book as well. Edited August 25, 2014 by Gecko123 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aree Wongwanlee Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Er, where did you meet all those Thai girls you talked about? All the Thai girls, and women, I have met do not fit into any of your descriptions. You can find them in the west while they're stil studying their degrees. They are so common that they're affectionately known as 'fob's (stands for fresh off the boat). I see. Well, I never knew that it might be an idea to look for Thai girls while in the west so I found all the Thai girls I needed right where they are grown. With 100% f.o.b.s. That's fully observable b**bs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherOneAmerican Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 @OP Hard work and a Thai education gets a Thai girl 15k/month. Hardly worth the effort IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherOneAmerican Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) This whole thread is a waste of time because there is no notion of love here in Thailand. Did you really intend to suggest that love is not part of the Thai emotional palette, or that all relationships here can be distilled down to a quid pro quo exchange of financial support for sexual favors and child bearing services? My friend, if you really and truly believe this, I can only say that this is simply not true. I would say love for a man is not in the female emotional palette, once they reach about 23. They can love their children, they can love their parents, but not us, we are just a means to an end. But then I'm bitter and twisted (but happy). Thai men generally have realized this, and act accordingly, but western men still search for the Hollywood dream. Edited August 25, 2014 by AnotherOneAmerican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudel Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Op most foreigners in Thailand feel insecure about independant woman thats why they moved to Thailand in the first place,many a topic has words such as that b@tch in the west took me to the cleaners in divorce court but they never say what they did wrong in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) Most Thai dentists are women. It only takes a casual perusal of any hospitals staff to notice many of the doctors are women. Why Female Executives Prosper In Thailand: The Counter Balanced Power Of Women In Thai Society http://www.cmmu.mahidol.ac.th/research/index.php/conferences?view=publication&task=show&id=355 Thailand has highest number of female executives 45% of the Thai executives are found to be women, which is the highest in the world. Following Thailand in the ranking are Georgia with 40%, Russia with 36%, Hong Kong and the Philippines with 35% http://thaifinancialpost.com/2011/03/11/thailand-has-highest-number-of-female-executives/ Thailand, where 30 per cent of companies employ female CEOs, is on the top. The number for EU countries is nine per cent and for North American countries five per cent. http://ibnlive.in.com/news/womens-day-thailand-has-most-women-ceos/145273-2.html Edited August 25, 2014 by thailiketoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudel Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 This whole thread is a waste of time because there is no notion of love here in Thailand. Love equates to being taken care of and that in turn equates to money. Sure a young Thai girl may fall in love with a broke Thai punter. But her decision will be folloed shortly thereafter by a career path in Pattaya. It must be pretty sour living in your world 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 My criticism is not about a woman marrying who she wants. She can marry up or down thats her choice. What I mean is that families should stop teaching their kids to only go for the sucessful man. In Europe we have female lawyers dating with low earning men. No problem at all. But in Thailand it is still frowned upon. Women should date and marry the men they love regardless rich or poor. "What I mean is that families should stop teaching their kids to only go for the successful man." What rubbish ... OP ... I would change your script writer ... you are getting bad advice. Does it happen in Thailand ... sure ... if you know of one place where it's happened ... then it's happened. Does it happen often in Thailand ... well, unless you have visited the majority of Thai Families and have researched what the children are being taught ... you can't make that observation ... therefore your OP really has limited credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Most Thai dentists are women. "Most Thai dentists are women" ... Many ... sure. Most ... well, show me the registrar of Thai dentists and that the majority are Female ... then your statement is believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Really is a narrow minded view of Thai women. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisb Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Most Thai dentists are women. "Most Thai dentists are women" ... Many ... sure. Most ... well, show me the registrar of Thai dentists and that the majority are Female ... then your statement is believable. Don't worry David, thailiketoo just finished telling me I dont know poop. Maybe he visits the dentist alot lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Op most foreigners in Thailand feel insecure about independant woman thats why they moved to Thailand in the first place,many a topic has words such as that b@tch in the west took me to the cleaners in divorce court but they never say what they did wrong in the first place. You might be right, but you might be wrong. I guess it depends on the types of people you hang with. I personally like independent women, and I like my own independence and space to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David48 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Op most foreigners in Thailand feel insecure about independent woman that's why they moved to Thailand in the first place, This just gets better and better ... Any more sweeping incredulous generalisations that we want to try and sell ATM? There seems to be a Sale on them now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) Most Thai dentists are women. "Most Thai dentists are women" ... Many ... sure. Most ... well, show me the registrar of Thai dentists and that the majority are Female ... then your statement is believable. Newly registered dentists showed a proportion of 69 females to 31 males. The trend towards the majority of dentists being female commenced in early 1990s. It is concluded that a trend towards a female dominated dental profession in Thailand has been clearly displayed. Although was no gender difference in dental productivity, health decision makers should take into account the gender difference in estimations dental manpower. Full text in Thai - Health Science Journals in Thailand thailand.digitaljournals.org/index.php/KKUDJ/article/download/.../16012 by P Srisilapanan - 2013 - Related articles a trend towards a female dominated dental profession in Thailand has been clearly displayed Edited August 25, 2014 by thailiketoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Most Thai dentists are women. It only takes a casual perusal of any hospitals staff to notice many of the doctors are women. Why Female Executives Prosper In Thailand: The Counter Balanced Power Of Women In Thai Society http://www.cmmu.mahidol.ac.th/research/index.php/conferences?view=publication&task=show&id=355 Thailand has highest number of female executives 45% of the Thai executives are found to be women, which is the highest in the world. Following Thailand in the ranking are Georgia with 40%, Russia with 36%, Hong Kong and the Philippines with 35% http://thaifinancialpost.com/2011/03/11/thailand-has-highest-number-of-female-executives/ Thailand, where 30 per cent of companies employ female CEOs, is on the top. The number for EU countries is nine per cent and for North American countries five per cent. http://ibnlive.in.com/news/womens-day-thailand-has-most-women-ceos/145273-2.html True. Thai women also make up the majority of university students in Thailand. The OP should take his equal rights gripe to his home country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 OP ....your topic and further posts appear to be based on casual observation and a lack of knowledge of the Thai culture....as such .... Yeap, OP is being judgmental without having all the facts. Pretty standard for the TV forum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 OP, it sounds like you are against Thai women marrying up. So what should they do if they become more productive and self sufficient as you suggest? Marry down? Be single? Dont see any problem of a woman marrying down. Most parents in the west would prefer that their daughter married up, as opposed to marrying down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costas2008 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 OP, I do agree with you that Thai girls should be taught to be more independent. We should look in the West, and admire this female equality, that has destroyed married life and pushed the divorce rates up so high. We should forget, that the main purpose of a wife is to bear children and bring them up to the best of their ability to populate the future world. Nowadays, they don't want children, they want power positions in businesses or politics. And we accept and tolerate this situation otherwise we will be called male chauvinists. I wish people will leave aside this so called political correctness and look into every day life and needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Bit to heavy for Me.Out of our 2,the Boy needed his Arse Kicked due to Female Mollycoddling. Daughter hard worker. Sent them both to Boarding School to get them away from Grandparents ..Both a bit over 15 K P.M. thank nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudel Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I don't see why a woman in today's world cannot be independent, confident, accomplished and still find a successful husband. What is wrong with women having both? If a woman desires to change her priorities and devote her life to a family instead of career what is wrong with that also? The world of equality should allow people to do whatever they want and not be judged or judge an entire culture on your limited perspective. OP get a life. My criticism is not about a woman marrying who she wants. She can marry up or down thats her choice. What I mean is that families should stop teaching their kids to only go for the sucessful man. In Europe we have female lawyers dating with low earning men. No problem at all. But in Thailand it is still frowned upon. Women should date and marry the men they love regardless rich or poor. Wel in Belgium where i live i still have to meet the first construction worker or electrician married to a female doctor,lawyer ,or dentist forget it...... Even a lot of self employed people who own small medium sized company's would be dead against their kids getting in to relationships with hourly paid working class people. The class devide is truly alive and well even in 2014 in the west. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexRRR Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Think the opp has been spending to much time up country, not the experiance of us city boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikimilton Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 It appears the OP assumes Thai women are not equal and independent. This is a very common misconception in the West and quite far from the reality. but in real Thai women equal and independent like western woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailiketoo Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 It appears the OP assumes Thai women are not equal and independent. This is a very common misconception in the West and quite far from the reality. but in real Thai women equal and independent like western woman. Not quite. Thailand, where 30 per cent of companies employ female CEOs, is on the top. The number for EU countries is nine per cent and for North American countries five per cent. So as far as CEO's go Thailand is quite a bit more equal than the West. According to, "Grant Thornton International is a London-based global organisation of accounting and consulting member firms which provide assurance, tax and specialist advisory services to privately held businesses and public interest entities." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 My family has a shrine at home to my grandmother and her first husband. She was 16 when they married and he was 65. They had 8 children. Everybody loved gramps he was a great piano player, handsome old guy and he owned all the land in the valley. My grandmother's family went from sharecroppers to the largest landowners in the county. All the kids went to school and were hard workers. The boys multiplied grandfather's holdings into another State. Of the 8 children 3 boys were millionaires, one of the girls writes children's books and is quite well known. One was dyslectic but did well as a dairy farmer. So you are saying that there was a 'Milker' in the family? By chance his name wasn't Costas was it? Are you Greek TLT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danmarnj Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I don't see why a woman in today's world cannot be independent, confident, accomplished and still find a successful husband. What is wrong with women having both? If a woman desires to change her priorities and devote her life to a family instead of career what is wrong with that also? The world of equality should allow people to do whatever they want and not be judged or judge an entire culture on your limited perspective. OP get a life. My criticism is not about a woman marrying who she wants. She can marry up or down thats her choice. What I mean is that families should stop teaching their kids to only go for the sucessful man. In Europe we have female lawyers dating with low earning men. No problem at all. But in Thailand it is still frowned upon. Women should date and marry the men they love regardless rich or poor. I don't know about Europe, but I think it is rare that an educated woman with a successful career is going to marry a man who is not successful. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but i think it is the exception, rather than the norm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I am glad that Thai people do not stone their women for marrying against their parents wishes, in some sort of honor killing. I dated lots of women in my country, but because I did not own a house or a new fancy or sports car, and did not earn over 100 thousand a year, they were not at all interested in the likes of me. In Thailand I was almost a millionaire, so My chances improved a lot. My only mistake was meeting a woman who has 3 sisters, and 2 of them were single, now 3 sisters out of the 4 of them live in our house, the other sister lives across the city. You don't marry a Thai woman, you marry the family! Buyer beware! Stargeezer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choochoo Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I am glad that Thai people do not stone their women for marrying against their parents wishes, in some sort of honor killing. I dated lots of women in my country, but because I did not own a house or a new fancy or sports car, and did not earn over 100 thousand a year, they were not at all interested in the likes of me. In Thailand I was almost a millionaire, so My chances improved a lot. My only mistake was meeting a woman who has 3 sisters, and 2 of them were single, now 3 sisters out of the 4 of them live in our house, the other sister lives across the city. You don't marry a Thai woman, you marry the family! Buyer beware! Stargeezer Theres 1000s of hi-so thai chinese. How did you not get one.................lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96tehtarp Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 (edited) You don't marry a Thai woman, you marry the family! Buyer beware! Buyer beware. That's why Asian families get involved in the selection of a spouse and why arranged marriages are still quite popular. Although I don't know of any recent cases of forced marriages a big part of spouse selection is family selection. Parents want to avoid their children marrying into the wrong sort of families and risking the inheritances and estates. Edited August 26, 2014 by 96tehtarp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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