The end of it. Any chance to get my money back?

[Merlindxb]

I recommend the gem trade with nearby country that is known for its gem stones, have a friend send you an email offering to buy all you can get him. Get her involved, she will love it, but the gem trader will insist the money bank Tx and must come from outside, no solly not take Thai… mai Dai.

All monies back into your ex pat bank account…all done !

[skiller]

In my opinion Plan A is not a good idea. The option with the lawyer need a lot of time. Once she get informed from your lawyer she will take out the money from the accounts and all your money gone.

I would tell her a nice story, .....have children together.....buying a bigger house.....

[HUAHIN62]

As you are married and dont have any proof that she have been unfaithfull its a 50/50 split of all assets.

[thhMan]

Sorry to hear...

But as a married couple... what makes you think the money belongs to you anymore?

She cant get back all the sex she gave you... Im not saying you came to Thailand for that...

Edited September 5, 2014 by thhMan

[Sena Dave]

I also said I dont want the House ,car ect but my lawyer told me to claim for all of it. Which i did , what it does is it stacks more chips on your side , so they will be more likely to cough up cash , which is all you want. I did that to get custody of my kids believe it or not, had to buy them basically

[mihalis]

Agree get a good lawyer, and prepare for the worse..

[Sigurris]

Ok heres a suggestion. You will need a friend with a property to help.

You tell her the friend is desperate to sell as he is going home. The house is worth 5 million but he will sell it for 2 million in cash so you want the money from the account. You will put the house in her name. Once you have the cash, disappear.

Or if you want to be nasty. Tell her you want to build a bigger house on your property, perhaps with an annex for the parents. First you need the cash in your account to pay the architects, demolition builders etc. Buy some bog standard blueprints off the internet to show her the new place.

Once you have the cash in your bank, rent a place nearby for you both and move in. Hire the demolition men and the day the house comes down be on a plane. Job done

[Brahim the one]

Do not say anything yet to her then be all good with her but still gather evidence of the cheating. Ask her money for some overseas investment and tell her that this money will be doubled and put back in the gold account thing. Then once that money is out of thailand there is your time to reveal your evidences to her. You should not rusg anything now, you will lose all your cash. Be smart and next time never put your money on a thai person account.

[Derailed]

if the money is in her account then it is hers. if you gave it to her to put in her account then it is hers. if you gave me 2 million baht to put in my account without any formal considerations or contract then it would be mine.

unless she decides to refund you then you have zero chance of any court making her return any money she recieved from you.

being married means that you are entitled to half the house if it was purchased after you were married.

in simple terms if you give someone - wether it be your wife, friend, mother, child, or a stranger - some money then one day you decide you want it back, unfortunatley there is no court that could legally have the recipient return that money.

I'm sure it's more complicated than that so I don't think your reply is entirely correct.

[belg]

good luck of getting your money back and ... keep us posted of your success

[laobali]

"... most Thai woman are very wary when it come to money."

Understatement of the year?

[English 1]

Hello

I recommend RON CRYSTAL at AFG Venture Group on Silom Road.

He knows all the ropes and the knots in them!

Good Luck

Allan

Edited September 14, 2014 by metisdead
Bold font removed.

[rotary]

Joint bank account, thats a wrong move with a wife from any country.

[shaurene]

Why do you ask the TV league your best bet is ask a lawyer at least you will get the correct answere.

[laobali]

I'm very very sure but not going to go into the details as it's a subject for a whole new tread and I'm not willing to discuss it.

I agree that she could become wild when confronted with evidence but I haven't seen this (her wild side) in her to be honest.

Maybe you should consider accepting the fact that you're no longer in a mutually monogamous relationship. Act accordingly and avoid confrontation while you can. Work on gradually liquidating your assets. Does the joint bank account need either or both signatures for transactions? Don't allow her to get pregnant by you.

[Derailed]

Thanks, some great ideas fellas. I already contacted the lawyer so that's my plan A, working on it right now.

If it fails, then I'd have to come up with some fairy tale or threaten her somehow.

Will see what lawyer says first.

[ezzra]

OP,

1. Say nothing to her, act normal;

2. Speak to you know who and take advice;

3. Make a list of all the assets and get all the evidence together showing how those assets came from you;

4. Gather evidence of the affair.

This goes nowhere without hard evidence and a paper trail.

Get movin' you've got your work cut out,

You need to follow Blackadder's baldrick and have a cunning and a subtle plan...

[Suradit69]

Yes it is complicated, I mentioned that most of the money was transferred to her gold trading account which is purely on her name and this is the issue, this is why I started this topic.

Sorry if it wasn't clear.

Probably because you said:

Right now there's about 2.2 million baht in our joint account

As a proof that this is my money

But you're married, which means assets and liabilities are shared.

- I'm not looking for a pity.

If you weren't looking for pity you'd find a good lawyer and not broadcast your personal (self-serving) soap opera on Thai Visa.

We all make decisions ... and predictable or at least foreseeable consequences arise from those decisions. Seeking sympathy or advice on Thai Visa is just one more in a succession of poor decisions you've made. If this happened back in Farang Land ... and it happens there with overwhelming frequency ... would you use YouTube or Facebook or the local weekly market newspaper to alert everyone?

Edited September 5, 2014 by Suradit69

[laobali]

^ He has a point.

[arjunadawn]

Brother, if you are looking to deploy a reserve parachute in case the main one fails, your marriage is already over- you are in free fall. Doesn't matter what got you here, unless you fix the underlying issue there is only one way this will end. Repair your marriage or exit your marriage. By this route you are allowing time to choose for you.

[ggt]

Be very carful my friend...on how you handle this...getting a lawyer will tell you your legal standing...demanding the money from her...may be the death of you...this is Thailand...

[Irishrogue]

Are there not many posts already on TV regarding the division of assets upon divorce? It seems that irrespective of who owned the funds originally it is always a 50/50 split and I expect that 50% is better than nothing. I would assume that divorce is being considered as any relationship worthy of the name is primarily based on trust.

[English 1]

Hello

'

I do hope you use Ron Crystal you won't find a better Lawyer for your problem.

If you get a Divorce he can prepare what you want and include what you agree ON THE DIVORCE DOCUMENT.

Usually there is compromise with the agreement of what your Wife gets.

Best of Luck

PS I did very well got the Land and the House and she got very little. Don;t believe that WE always lose...not true!

Edited September 5, 2014 by English 1

[ukguyinthai]

Yes it is complicated, I mentioned that most of the money was transferred to her gold trading account which is purely on her name and this is the issue, this is why I started this topic.

Sorry if it wasn't clear.

Tell her you want to buy a much bigger house, take her round to see a few.

Then tell her you need the money in her gold account to help buying the new house.

(As you want to have two houses)

She'll soon hand over the cash.

Once you have the cash, any silly excuse to delay buying the new house will do.

So long as it doesn't raise suspicion, my Merkin friend has a good idea.

To win this thing you need to pander to their wants and fears. I used ghosts and superstition at one point.

I thought of telling her to hand over the cash nicely, once I have good evidence (working on it), then I'd just disappear and she can tell her parents whatever she wants and save her face, or else I'd go back and talk to her parents and inform them what sort of woman their daughter is. They may or may not care, I don't know. Her dad and I have a good relationship even though none of us speaks a common language, I think he'd be very disappointed but I don't know if that will make any difference...

What do you think folks?

Blood is thicker than water,you will loose with this thinking.

Keep calm ,keep your emotions in check,work out the best plan to get your money back,do not confide in her friends or family (you are alone)

Women notice even slight changes in behaviour so try to be yourself.

Good luck mate.

[Mudcrab]

Hello

'

I do hope you use Ron Crystal you won't find a better Lawyer for your problem.

If you get a Divorce he can prepare what you want and include what you agree ON THE DIVORCE DOCUMENT.

Usually there is compromise with the agreement of what your Wife gets.

Best of Luck

PS I did very well got the Land and the House and she got very little. Don;t believe that WE always lose...not true!

And what did you do with the Land?

[AnotherOneAmerican]

Hello

I recommend RON CRYSTAL at AFG Venture Group on Silom Road.

He knows all the ropes and the knots in them!

Good Luck

Allan

I'm not sure someone prepared to work illegally in Thailand would make the best lawyer to have.

His name doesn't sound like a Thai name, and only Thais can be lawyers in Thailand.

[English 1]

Another One American....

Your comment stating than Ron Crystal is working illegally is a gross insult which could get YOU into trouble legally.

His name is an adopted one as his full name is very difficult for us!

For your information he is a THAI CITIZEN.....not just RESIDENT BUT A CITIZEN!

Wash your mouth out!

[English 1]

Another One American....

Your comment stating than Ron Crystal is working illegally is a gross insult which could get YOU into trouble legally.

His name is an adopted one as his full name is very difficult for us!

For your information he is a THAI CITIZEN.....not just RESIDENT BUT A CITIZEN!

Wash your mouth out!

[Derailed]

If you weren't looking for pity you'd find a good lawyer and not broadcast your personal (self-serving) soap opera on Thai Visa.

We all make decisions ... and predictable or at least foreseeable consequences arise from those decisions. Seeking sympathy or advice on Thai Visa is just one more in a succession of poor decisions you've made. If this happened back in Farang Land ... and it happens there with overwhelming frequency ... would you use YouTube or Facebook or the local weekly market newspaper to alert everyone?

To get a good lawyer referral was the goal and I got that.

Other users' opinions, who have been through the similar life experience before, also valuable and I thank those who replied here and through PM.

Comments like this one quoted isn't what I needed or wanted, but I'm not surprised as I've seen this on TV too many times.

[Derailed]

Are there not many posts already on TV regarding the division of assets upon divorce? It seems that irrespective of who owned the funds originally it is always a 50/50 split and I expect that 50% is better than nothing. I would assume that divorce is being considered as any relationship worthy of the name is primarily based on trust.

Is it always a 50/50? It seems like infidelity makes this an exception, no?