Often it is said there is something in the water. Or that you leave your brains at the airport.... but isn't the answer pretty simple?

Marring a woman of questionable work history in the West would be a costly proposition since the whole profession has been glamourized with a sex movie industry. You would actually have to be Charlie Sheen to afford to live with one of those girls.

What do you think?

It depends which head is doing the thinking.

Most men just want a wife that will have sex with them whenever they want, and maybe produce a few babies.

These girls usually fulfil the first criteria nicely.

Cheaper than the respectable western ladies, that produce a few babies, never have sex again, then want your house and pension.

Western men think that bar girls are not actually prostitutes and that all Thai women would jump in a bus to Pattaya or Pat Pong if they had financial difficulties.

Also, they wouldn't have a chance of getting such a woman if they weren't for sale.

'Easy' visa for one, I expect.

Why do Thai men marry Thai girls of ill-repute?

'Easy' visa for one, I expect.

Why do Thai men marry Thai girls of ill-repute?

They usually don't marry them.

Seems to me there are just a lot of assumptions and stereotypes. When you see a Thai girl with a Falang, do you really know how they met, what is her history or what is his history?? But people jump to the conclusion that she's a bar girl or whatever. Or if you see a western male on a flight to Thailand, then he's obviously a sex tourist. Of all the people on the planet, I think that people who frequent this forum I would be opposed to this stereotype rather than supporting it. From being on this forum for 7 years now ( ridiculous how much time I wasted here) and knowing a lot of peoples back stories, they aren't salacious stories. Just some guy meets some girl, get married have kids. In reality most of the tvf regulars are a boring lot truth be told.

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"Marring a woman of questionable work history in the West would be a costly proposition since the whole profession has been glamourized with a sex movie industry. You would actually have to be Charlie Sheen to afford to live with one of those girls.

What do you think?"

I think that comment above is well wide of the mark.

This is a tough topic. Please keep replies within forum rules. And we'll move it over to the pub.

Topic Moved.

Here we go again.

I would imagine by the time they marry, their past is behind them and is of no consequence.

One of the things that always seems to be missed when talking about this is: Opportunity. By this I mean the opportunity to meet women at home. When I left the UK the pc aspect of the workplace meant it was virtually impossible to develop a relationship other than a professional one. So a traditional meeting place for couples has been struck off the list. Likewise the pub. With increasing prices, smoking bans and the higher cost of living people went out less making another traditional meeting ground less effective.

Then you have the men who are most likely to be 40+ and divorced. Probably too old to go clubbing. So where on earth are these people going to meet a woman who is a possible mate? Believe me I had a good job, lived in a nice part of London and would consider myself good looking and fit and I had to go to the internet to meet women. There are a lot of men who still think the internet is a bit seedy and won't use it. And if they live in a small town it is even harder.

Then they come to Thailand!!!! Bingo! It is like a mirror image of the life they were leading. Suddenly they are meeting more attractive women than they can cope with. Some are out to get their money but some are just out to get their man, and with it security and a better life. What is not to like about that?

So the girls have used their assets to survive. He who is without sin etc. I am not justifying, celebrating or condoning what they do. But I do accept it. And the situation creates a place where a western man can get an attractive Asian lady and not be lonely anymore. THAT IS A GOOD THING.

I am firmly of the opinion that when you meet someone you judge them by what they do now not what they did before. I know if I was judged in the same way i would be found wanting.

And if every farang who is married to a hiso rich thai-chinese doctor was lined up they would reach from here to the end of my nose.

As Talk Talk said, "Life's what you make it". Look back in anger or look forward in hope.

Most men just want a wife that will have sex with them whenever they want, and maybe produce a few babies.

These girls usually fulfil the first criteria nicely.

Cheaper than the respectable western ladies, that produce a few babies, never have sex again, then want your house and pension.

Great sex is definitely high on the list. I know the main reason a farang married a certain lady from Soi 6 Pattaya was that she was one of the world's greatest oral sex artists. And threesomes--no problem, let's party!

Why would a guy marry a women who was paid for sex as her occupation ?

Why would a woman marry a guy who used to pay women for sex as his "hobby" ?

Probably because they love each other and want to be together - or maybe other reasons - but as long as they are happy who is anyone to judge ?

Oh yes, those who dwell in century's past and those whose opinions and views of what is "unacceptable" are more important than others happiness.

Most men just want a wife that will have sex with them whenever they want, and maybe produce a few babies.

These girls usually fulfil the first criteria nicely.

Cheaper than the respectable western ladies, that produce a few babies, never have sex again, then want your house and pension.

Great sex is definitely high on the list. I know the main reason a farang married a certain lady from Soi 6 Pattaya was that she was one of the world's greatest oral sex artists. And threesomes--no problem, let's party!

Ahhhh yes, I remember Lek!

Why so many topics divide ladies into two stereotype groups. We tend to do same with religions, nationalities etc. What's the problem with taking people on their individual merits and make your own call according what suits your ideals.

Every day seems on TV to be lame posts such as....

Would u marry are bar girl ? ...etc

Don't judge a book by its cover. And another big one esp in living in Thailand...don't be so high and mighty. Easy to preach when u have come from place like AU and been afforded opportunity to make very good money. Try starting your life here and selling sunglasses for minimal baht per day

Why would you hire an engineer to build a bridge if it was his first bridge?

Why would you hire an engineer to build a bridge if it was his first bridge?

A bridge ... no, that is too far.

A tunnel ... I might poke around a bit ...

I had a French wife who one night after a bit too much wine confided she had many partners in her 18th year of life. Something happened when she turned 18 to make her want a lot of different people. She was very expert between the sheets and many times I silently thanked those many men for educating her.

On the other hand it was a mistake to tell me because it was ready ammunition whenever she caught me with another women; I would remind her in comparison to her I was almost a Saint. (Not true but I held my wine better.)

What ill repute are you referring to OP?

These girls are making a way of living and most of the time they do it out of necessity for a better life for their families and kids and not because they like to go to bed with any Tom Dick and Harry.

But they are humans as you and me and it is proven that they can be much better wives and mothers than some respectable other women.

I have a lot of people that I know that have been married to these ill repute girls as you put it and have a wonderful life.

I can understand it. I have met a lot of Thai hookers that were sweet and fun and really good in bed. If I was in the West, I would have fallen in love in a second, but it is too easy to just move on to a new one when you live here. I like variety, but some guys don't.

Ill Repute? Just another synonym for misogyny. Of course a chap is a 'Lothario' or 'a bit of lad'. Mystery to me why Thai women marry farangs with the mark of the brothel beast all over their limericks. "I'm getting married in the morning, get me to the ATM on time?"
PS. Here is a word everyone should know!!: **** Thai language removed ****

Ill Repute? Just another synonym for misogyny. Of course a chap is a 'Lothario' or 'a bit of lad'. Mystery to me why Thai women marry farangs with the mark of the brothel beast all over their limericks. "I'm getting married in the morning, get me to the ATM on time?"

PS. Here is a word everyone should know!!: **** Thai language removed ****

You don't like hookers. I get it. You are a married guy. Why do you come here belittling men who like hookers and calling them cuckolds and misogynists? Makes no sense to me if you are happy and fulfilled in your life. Live and let live. I don't mock you.

Let me think about this a minute.... Guy going to see hookers ends up falling in love with one. You ask why he marries them....

My question is why do these girls who sell their bodies marry a guy who is known to be banging hookers ???

Answer ... They are both exactly alike

Because Thai girls of ill repute seem to be the only ones who can speak enough English to be able to say: "Hello, handsome man!"

Blame it on Thai education!

What ill repute are you referring to OP?

These girls are making a way of living and most of the time they do it out of necessity for a better life for their families and kids and not because they like to go to bed with any Tom Dick and Harry.

But they are humans as you and me and it is proven that they can be much better wives and mothers than some respectable other women.

I have a lot of people that I know that have been married to these ill repute girls as you put it and have a wonderful life.

These girls are looking for an easy way out and for the better of themselves.

Most of the men I know who married such women are not with them anymore. The thing is, if they are willing to marry one of their clients, they are willing to screw him over too, usually once a house has been built.

Because the farang is an introduced species and has not developed the instincts or defenses necessary to cope with the local predators

I would imagine by the time they marry, their past is behind them and is of no consequence.

Nonsense, they (the losers) would not marry a prostitute from their own countries.

The old sayings, "Once a bar girl, always a bar girl" and "you can take bar girl out of the bar, but not the bar out of the bar girl" come to mind. Go ahead and marry who you want, but I think the risk of marrying a bargirl is much greater than a girl met in more morally acceptable ways. The risk being if the bargirl wife gets bored, the money runs slow, etc., she knows where to go and what to do. I've met many bargirls who were previously married to a farang and moved overseas with him, only to claim boredom, confinement, money dried up, etc. and they high tailed it back to the LOS and "re-entered the workforce". Of course they leave the bloke AFTER lining their pockets first.

As for me, if I ever want to get married again, I'll just find a woman I don't like and give her a house; much more efficient that way. Marriage in most western countries is essentially a license to steal for the ladies, and they know it and play it for all it's worth. And the Thai ladies that move to western countries are very quick learners in this regard. Call me a bit jaded, but pretty realistic for the most part.

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What ill repute are you referring to OP?

These girls are making a way of living and most of the time they do it out of necessity for a better life for their families and kids and not because they like to go to bed with any Tom Dick and Harry.

But they are humans as you and me and it is proven that they can be much better wives and mothers than some respectable other women.

I have a lot of people that I know that have been married to these ill repute girls as you put it and have a wonderful life.

These girls are looking for an easy way out and for the better of themselves.

Most of the men I know who married such women are not with them anymore. The thing is, if they are willing to marry one of their clients, they are willing to screw him over too, usually once a house has been built.

That's pretty much dead-on with my observations going back about 12 years.