Looking for a good electrician in Bangkok

[rgrdns]

Hi guys,

I want to install ELCB's (Earth Leakage Circuit Breaker) in the fuse-box for bathroom and kitchen circuit any of you who can recommend me a good electrician here in Bangkok?

Many thanks,

[namdocmai]

I also wanted that when i bought electric boilers for my wife's brand new house. The 3 cables were prepared in the shower but just 10 cm to short. The electrician (from a huge developer, he had wired the whole house) said no problem and wanted to extend the wire with some tape. I didn't want that and had to buy a whole new wire myself and let him install it.

Make sure you check them all the time, tape is not allowed by western standards, sure not in a shower where it can get wet.

Also buy boilers with a safety switch, i have panasonic and they are fine. The other 2 boilers i did myself. I made them totally waterproof with sillicon around them and on the wall.

[saramsland]

I also wanted that when i bought electric boilers for my wife's brand new house. The 3 cables were prepared in the shower but just 10 cm to short. The electrician (from a huge developer, he had wired the whole house) said no problem and wanted to extend the wire with some tape. I didn't want that and had to buy a whole new wire myself and let him install it.

Make sure you check them all the time, tape is not allowed by western standards, sure not in a shower where it can get wet.

Also buy boilers with a safety switch, i have panasonic and they are fine. The other 2 boilers i did myself. I made them totally waterproof with sillicon around them and on the wall.

Namdocmai,

Don't get me wrong as this is not a negative post nor making fun but from an electrical point of view.. Silicon is a plumbers tool. Also not derogatory to plumbers

Read a little on IP Ratings and select an enclosure to suit.

[namdocmai]

I also wanted that when i bought electric boilers for my wife's brand new house. The 3 cables were prepared in the shower but just 10 cm to short. The electrician (from a huge developer, he had wired the whole house) said no problem and wanted to extend the wire with some tape. I didn't want that and had to buy a whole new wire myself and let him install it.

Make sure you check them all the time, tape is not allowed by western standards, sure not in a shower where it can get wet.

Also buy boilers with a safety switch, i have panasonic and they are fine. The other 2 boilers i did myself. I made them totally waterproof with sillicon around them and on the wall.

Namdocmai,

Don't get me wrong as this is not a negative post nor making fun but from an electrical point of view.. Silicon is a plumbers tool. Also not derogatory to plumbers

Read a little on IP Ratings and select an enclosure to suit.

Good plummers don't need sillicon as well.

But if you are into it, which kit should i use between the boiler and the bathroom tiles so sure no water can come into the boiler from the backside? It has to be sold in Homepro or homeworks.

I said sillicon, but i don't remember which kit i used. It was white and probably for bathrooms. It wasn't necessary as well because the cable goes up inside the boiler in a special canal but i just want to be sure no water will ever go in it.

[rgrdns]

Thanks for your ideas so far……yet one cannot be more preventive than installing ELCB’s on your kitchen/bathroom circuit as this is standard (by law) in most western countries.

This topic is about finding/recommending a good electrician here in Bangkok which are hard to find!

Regards

[saramsland]

Thanks for your ideas so far……yet one cannot be more preventive than installing ELCB’s on your kitchen/bathroom circuit as this is standard (by law) in most western countries.

This topic is about finding/recommending a good electrician here in Bangkok which are hard to find!

Regards

Not being a smart arse but the action of an ELCB is reaction, preventative thoughts but ELCB's can still failure internally hence why monthly testing is usually required.

[saramsland]

I also wanted that when i bought electric boilers for my wife's brand new house. The 3 cables were prepared in the shower but just 10 cm to short. The electrician (from a huge developer, he had wired the whole house) said no problem and wanted to extend the wire with some tape. I didn't want that and had to buy a whole new wire myself and let him install it.

Make sure you check them all the time, tape is not allowed by western standards, sure not in a shower where it can get wet.

Also buy boilers with a safety switch, i have panasonic and they are fine. The other 2 boilers i did myself. I made them totally waterproof with sillicon around them and on the wall.

Namdocmai,

Don't get me wrong as this is not a negative post nor making fun but from an electrical point of view.. Silicon is a plumbers tool. Also not derogatory to plumbers

Read a little on IP Ratings and select an enclosure to suit.

Good plummers don't need sillicon as well.

But if you are into it, which kit should i use between the boiler and the bathroom tiles so sure no water can come into the boiler from the backside? It has to be sold in Homepro or homeworks.

I said sillicon, but i don't remember which kit i used. It was white and probably for bathrooms. It wasn't necessary as well because the cable goes up inside the boiler in a special canal but i just want to be sure no water will ever go in it.

Mate,

First of all, my electrical background is heavy industrial so I say this with thought in mind domestic sparkies may think it is 'over the top'.

I would first start with a junction box in a roof cavity, terminations within the box and a suitable and rated gland allowing a sheathed cable to run down the wall to the heater where another suitable gland allows entry of that cable into the heaters electrical enclosure.. Terminate as required including earths. Suitable gland would be a rated PVC gland to allow the sheathed cable to seal.

Ensure my water piping is correctly grounded/earthed (terminology will vary with location.

Conduct earth continuity tests as per standards (i use aussie standards being an aussie).

Install an ELCB 30mA/ 10ms.

Note it takes 50mA to start and start your heart.

Use a real ELCB testing device, not just the button on the front and ensure the trip value and trip time is as designed per applicable standards.. Then carry that ELCB test monthly or at least 3/6 monthly.

This should ensure your enclosures are sealed, piping grounded and a suitable (working/effective) device installed to protect in the event of a circuit failure.

I do welcome any other trained electrical thoughts on my comments out of domestic curiousity.

I hada company deliver and wire my washing machine in Bkk recently and was getting tickles whilst washing the dishes.. Short story shortened, found the ground not connected to the machine ground terminal although available from my condo. No more tickles but higher bills... My condo is less than 4yrs old and it does make me wonder of even recent thai electrical working standards from even reputable building companies.

[namdocmai]

@Saramsland,

Well i'm not a certified electrician but do know quite a lot about it. Also i 'm not a native english speaker, i learned to speak english in Oz.

First it doesn't make sense to ground a pvc waterpipe in my opinion.

Also a box under the roof of the house wouldn't be my idea, if i open the ceiling on the 1st floor then i can easy see the sky between the rooftiles...it doesn't leak though but as said this house is 4-5 years old now. I don't like any connecting boxes, i prefer direct cables to the main fusebox so that's what i let them make here.

In Europe the copper waterpipes have to be earthed in bathrooms, also the steel heatingpipes for radiators. In the concrete floor should be a netwire which is also connected to earth/ground. No electricity at all is allowed near any waterpoint, and the outlets next to mirrors (for shaving/hairdryers) have to be grounded..

Elcb is in every house in Europe, a special more sensitive one for the wet rooms and a normal one, in my Thai house i also have one in the main fusebox and the boiler has one.

I just wanted to be sure no water can ever come in the boiler so i used that kit (whatever it is) to make it waterproof all around the boiler. Better be safe then sorry.

In our public parks here you will find loads of open naked wires where the lights are missing. Some have tape on them, some only those screw terminators. Some have a box (which is broken or just missing). In the rain i don't dare to walk there at all.

But for the OP, you never know if an electrician here is good or not. I let the guy who still builds new houses here make an extra fusebox for my new european kitchen (with loads of high-power equipment) and after a month the old fusebox was on fire. I guess the guy didn't connect the thick cable to the new fusebox tight enough, the whole breaker burned out at night while all equipment was off. I was abroad then and the wife was terrified.

So if you want to have a real good electrician then rent a farang with certifications and experience in Thailand. I would recommend one from the 1st world.

Since that happened here i do the electric myself.

[saramsland]

@Saramsland,

Well i'm not a certified electrician but do know quite a lot about it. Also i 'm not a native english speaker, i learned to speak english in Oz.

First it doesn't make sense to ground a pvc waterpipe in my opinion.

Also a box under the roof of the house wouldn't be my idea, if i open the ceiling on the 1st floor then i can easy see the sky between the rooftiles...it doesn't leak though but as said this house is 4-5 years old now. I don't like any connecting boxes, i prefer direct cables to the main fusebox so that's what i let them make here.

In Europe the copper waterpipes have to be earthed in bathrooms, also the steel heatingpipes for radiators. In the concrete floor should be a netwire which is also connected to earth/ground. No electricity at all is allowed near any waterpoint, and the outlets next to mirrors (for shaving/hairdryers) have to be grounded..

Elcb is in every house in Europe, a special more sensitive one for the wet rooms and a normal one, in my Thai house i also have one in the main fusebox and the boiler has one.

I just wanted to be sure no water can ever come in the boiler so i used that kit (whatever it is) to make it waterproof all around the boiler. Better be safe then sorry.

In our public parks here you will find loads of open naked wires where the lights are missing. Some have tape on them, some only those screw terminators. Some have a box (which is broken or just missing). In the rain i don't dare to walk there at all.

But for the OP, you never know if an electrician here is good or not. I let the guy who still builds new houses here make an extra fusebox for my new european kitchen (with loads of high-power equipment) and after a month the old fusebox was on fire. I guess the guy didn't connect the thick cable to the new fusebox tight enough, the whole breaker burned out at night while all equipment was off. I was abroad then and the wife was terrified.

So if you want to have a real good electrician then rent a farang with certifications and experience in Thailand. I would recommend one from the 1st world.

Since that happened here i do the electric myself.

I was summising you had metallic water pipes.

Agree with the issue of qualifications in Thailand but due to restrictions you would only be able to be an engineer (if work permit approved) to work in the field here as trades is on the list of can nots.

In my opinion a good electrician always completes a final check and testing including visuals and correct terminations. Loose wires are an embarrassing failure.. That is if he did install correctly rated equipment and a loose wire was at fault. Usually a loose wire will only become hot if it is drawing a current, i saw that as you mentioned all appliances were off.

[Prbkk]

Thanks for your ideas so faryet one cannot be more preventive than installing ELCBs on your kitchen/bathroom circuit as this is standard (by law) in most western countries.

This topic is about finding/recommending a good electrician here in Bangkok which are hard to find!

Regards

Indeed they are hard to find. In dozens of threads on this topic, I haven't yet seen a single suggested name. Is there no one with the qualifications suggested by the seemingly knowledgeable posters on things electrical? It seems a bit crazy. Surely there is ONE, at least?

[namdocmai]

@Saramsland, only the fridge (double door) was running but that won't pull many amps. Yes it's a shame he almost put my house on fire, in Europe his insurance would have paid all the damage, even if the whole house had burned down to the ground. Every electrician or pro must have an insurance for that in Europe or he will have to pay himself by law.

I have never seen a Thai using copper pipes for water. You can buy it though, in chinatown.

I don't understand why Thailand doesn't let farang electricians work here, the Thai really don't know what they are doing. I 'm sure one day somebody will die here in our villapark because of electrocution. I warned the baan office twice allready but they don't care. Well This is Thailand.!

Then i wonder what people with houses from 30-100 million baht do when they need a good electrician.

If i was that rich i would order everything from germany or japan included the engineers. Legal or not, my family's safety would go first. For quality cars they also want german or japanese.

Thai electricians all s*ck.

[rgrdns]

Not much response.....also not surprising!

Well I did some research and have found this firm; http://www.safe-t-cut.com/en/ is there anyone who has some experience with this company?

Regards,

[namdocmai]

Not much response.....also not surprising!

Well I did some research and have found this firm; http://www.safe-t-cut.com/en/ is there anyone who has some experience with this company?

Regards,

Well if you're willing to pay for it my wife can name one who has license, insurance, certification. They don't do small jobs though and have plenty work in the IT-industry with very high-end equipment.

[rgrdns]

Not much response.....also not surprising!

Well I did some research and have found this firm; http://www.safe-t-cut.com/en/ is there anyone who has some experience with this company?

Regards,

Well if you're willing to pay for it my wife can name one who has license, insurance, certification. They don't do small jobs though and have plenty work in the IT-industry with very high-end equipment.

Yes please, give me the link and will see what they can do for me......many thx!

[namdocmai]

Not much response.....also not surprising!

Well I did some research and have found this firm; http://www.safe-t-cut.com/en/ is there anyone who has some experience with this company?

Regards,

Well if you're willing to pay for it my wife can name one who has license, insurance, certification. They don't do small jobs though and have plenty work in the IT-industry with very high-end equipment.

Yes please, give me the link and will see what they can do for me......many thx!

Power engineering is the name she said, but i can't find a website. She is lazy at the moment, worked all week. She likes to know who is asking....