New DSI investigation team to take over 'men in black' case

[ramrod711]

Because I don't have a link to hand. But I didn't expect YOU to remember it as your memory is rather selective.

Lookee. I found it in under a minute.

"As soon as she took over as premier, Tarit was clever enough to cut down the number of political cases in his hand from the 281 he had in 2010 during Abhisit Vejjajiva's time to 48 cases last year and to just four cases this year."

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/DSI-chief-is-proving-to-be-a-powerful-political-to-30182713.html

Ah thank you, an ever so non partisan article by Piyanart Srivalo .

So "hundreds" of investigations of 2010 red shirt crimes were dropped. Which translates to

As soon as she took over as premier, Tarit was clever enough to cut down the number of political cases in his hand from the 281 he had in 2010 during Abhisit Vejjajiva's time to 48 cases last year and to just four cases this year.

He chose to drop several cases against members of the ruling Pheu Thai Party and the red shirts.

39 of those cases presumably being the Lese Majeste cases brought by abhisit, who was not backward in coming forward when it came to using Lese majeste as a political tool

By 2007, the number of charges increased almost fourfold to 126. This number jumped to 164 in 2009, and then tripled to 478 cases in 2010.

The most dramatic increases occurred under the Democrat Party-led government of Abhisit Vejjajiva, which adopted a royalist line strongly backed by the military.

http://www.asiasentinel.com/society/thailand-tightens-the-lese-majeste-screws/

OK, so lets look at the rest of the "hundreds of cases" that were "dropped".

Oh wait, there's no mention of any other cases in the link provided, let alone spelt out in detail.

You're going to have to try harder than that, but then again, why bother, just throw out opinion as fact, somebody will believe you, especially on here.

That's a terrific suggestion, of course you have been throwing out your opinions for years, the only difference being that nobody accepts them as facts. Most of us dismiss them as fiction.

[rubl]

Because I don't have a link to hand. But I didn't expect YOU to remember it as your memory is rather selective.

Lookee. I found it in under a minute.

"As soon as she took over as premier, Tarit was clever enough to cut down the number of political cases in his hand from the 281 he had in 2010 during Abhisit Vejjajiva's time to 48 cases last year and to just four cases this year."

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/DSI-chief-is-proving-to-be-a-powerful-political-to-30182713.html

Ah thank you, an ever so non partisan article by Piyanart Srivalo .

So "hundreds" of investigations of 2010 red shirt crimes were dropped. Which translates to

As soon as she took over as premier, Tarit was clever enough to cut down the number of political cases in his hand from the 281 he had in 2010 during Abhisit Vejjajiva's time to 48 cases last year and to just four cases this year.

He chose to drop several cases against members of the ruling Pheu Thai Party and the red shirts.

39 of those cases presumably being the Lese Majeste cases brought by abhisit, who was not backward in coming forward when it came to using Lese majeste as a political tool

By 2007, the number of charges increased almost fourfold to 126. This number jumped to 164 in 2009, and then tripled to 478 cases in 2010.

The most dramatic increases occurred under the Democrat Party-led government of Abhisit Vejjajiva, which adopted a royalist line strongly backed by the military.

http://www.asiasentinel.com/society/thailand-tightens-the-lese-majeste-screws/

OK, so lets look at the rest of the "hundreds of cases" that were "dropped".

Oh wait, there's no mention of any other cases in the link provided, let alone spelt out in detail.

You're going to have to try harder than that, but then again, why bother, just throw out opinion as fact, somebody will believe you, especially on here.

It would seem the number of LM cases dramatically changed under the Yingluck Administration, in the 'right' direction as well. Ms. Yingluck should be proud of that achievement, again something increasing.

Anyway, the DSI should finally just work the case without 'external' influence.

[rubl]

".....former deputy PM Chalerm Yoobamrung, who oversaw the DSI board during the previous government, issued a statement denying the "men in black" even existed."

"...DSI agents investigating the "men in black" controversially shifted their focus to former PM Abhisit Vejjajiva...."

Clear statements of the former government's interference in police investigations to benefit themselves and their military wing. AKA corruption. Does anybody else remember an earlier statement that hundreds of investigations of 2010 red shirt crimes were dropped after the election? First step in changing an armed mob into "peaceful protesters".

Does anybody else remember an earlier statement that hundreds of investigations of 2010 red shirt crimes were dropped after the election?

No. Why don't you remind us of that statement?

No idea, but I found this interesting article. Maybe I can satisfy you with this ?

"The largest group of Red Shirts in 2010 were ordinary people from each region of the country. The next largest were the Red Shirt guards who were modeled after the “Thahaan Phran,” a paramilitary army tasked with terrorizing members of the Communist Party of Thailand in the 1970s. A much smaller group, the Black Shirts, were described to Human Rights Watch by journalist Oliver Sarbil: “…their job was to protect the Red Shirt protestor, but their real job was to terrorize soldiers… these guys were fearless. They operated mostly at night, but sometimes during the day. They went out in small teams [to confront the Army]…”They weren’t really ‘black-shirts’ – they were sometimes in green military uniforms and others dressed like Red Shirt protestors. They…weren’t interested in dealing with the Red Shirt leaders…The guys I met knew how to move and shoot. They also had experience handling explosives…The Black Shirts didn’t come to try and take territory – they shoot and then they leave, they hit [the soldiers] and retreat.” [2]"

http://www.globalresearch.ca/thailand-thaksins-red-shirts-and-the-ongoing-violence/5376310

You could try but don't ask me to take it seriously as an example of independent non partisan writing.

The opening paragraphs set out the tone. At first glance I thought it was the work of Cartalucci, whose works of fiction regularly appear on this "Global Research" Blog, but it appears he has a clone. Oh and your quote - that appeared in the your latest "favourite report to quote", the HRW one.

Not that your post has anything to do with my reply to the statement by halloween that "hundreds" of investigations were dropped after the election in 2011.

Perhaps you could post it in the thread with your views on the content.

This is still the topic of "new DSI team to investigate MiB" ?

[rametindallas]

So, what we gleam from this: the police was letting them through, they were assisted by "peaceful protesters" and the DSI under the PTP administration dropped the case and focused on nailing Abhisit and Suthep for premeditated murder as civilians.

Well, knock me over with a feather...

According to another source, Prayuth: Knowing everyone behind attacks.

The coup leader said he had the names of the supporters and financiers

of the violent attacks in 2010 and in 2013 and this year, and he urged them to report to authorities.

“You would be shocked and surprised if I revealed the names”.

If so, why the public did not know the names?

The only way I will be 'shocked and surprised' is if Thaksin and Chalerm are NOT on the list of those deeply involved in the attempted 'soft coup' of the Abhisit government.

I think there's a small probability that it was, at least in part, the work of a third party vying to come on top after the dust settled.

However it is very unlikely since the presence of the Black Shirts among the Red Shirts was no secret, that they were assisted by Red Shirts and welcomed by them neither; if they would had been strangers to them that wouldn't had happened, all it would take was for some at the Red Shirt leadership start asking "Whoa, who are those guys!? Did you invite them Brother No.2? No? Brother No.3? can you go asking WHO brought them here then? because it may be a problem to have unknown armed men roaming among us if we don't know who they are"

With the emphasis they placed in barricading themselves and all the guards they had it defies belief that they would have allowed the Black Shirts to operate within their areas if they didn't know who they were.

Fast forward to today, or yesterday, with the pathetic denials from some of the Red Shirt leadership, like Weng, "oh, no those are not the real Men in Black", which presumes that he knows who the real MiB where, funnily enough he hasn't come forward to help identify the real ones in the last four years, so either he is lying or he is protecting them... but they say they don't condone the use of violence so... yes, just lying then.

In case you missed this newspaper article: Unmasked: Thailand's men in black (29May2010)

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/LE29Ae02.html

Black Shirt Behind the April 10 Violence? “Human Rights Watch examined a video [shot during the April 10th violence] released by Agence France Presse that shows Col. Romklao Thuwatham, in charge of the military operation near Phan Fa Bridge, trying to give orders to his troops from atop an armored personnel carrier. A green laser beam can be seen pointed at him. Seconds later 40mm grenades fired from grenade launchers explode, killing Romklao and severely wounding other senior officers. UDD leaders loathed Romklao, deputy chief of staff of the army’s 2nd Infantry Division, because he commanded the April 2009 dispersal of UDD protesters in Bangkok at the Dindaeng junction

http://factsanddetails.com/southeast-asia/Thailand/sub5_8a/entry-3199.html

Bangkok redshirt (blackshirt?) grenade attack on Thai Army Troops April 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tpyjV1ROso

[Fat Haggis]

Instead of the PM bragging about knowing the names, how about he does something about it and have them arrested, and exposed, instead of saying you'd be surprised whos on the list!! ??

Or is there names on that list that are known to him, and that they could very well have been RTA soldiers working for the other side, and that by exposing these names, it calls into question the RTA?

Put up, or Shut up Mr. PM, where's the transparency on this one sir?

[rubl]

Instead of the PM bragging about knowing the names, how about he does something about it and have them arrested, and exposed, instead of saying you'd be surprised whos on the list!! ??

Or is there names on that list that are known to him, and that they could very well have been RTA soldiers working for the other side, and that by exposing these names, it calls into question the RTA?

Put up, or Shut up Mr. PM, where's the transparency on this one sir?

Or is there names on that list that are known to him, and that they could very well have been from the just ousted Pheu Thai led government who's darling kitten he has to handle with gloves ?

So, let the DSI investigate without any influence or pressure.

[Old Man River]

According to another source, Prayuth: Knowing everyone behind attacks.

The coup leader said he had the names of the supporters and financiers

of the violent attacks in 2010 and in 2013 and this year, and he urged them to report to authorities.

“You would be shocked and surprised if I revealed the names”.

If so, why the public did not know the names?

Why should they be named before they are arrested and charged ?

Then let's hope that soon arrests are reported and the backers can not flee abroad.

Unless...

[dBrown]

why do all the suspects just love to do re enactments? don't any of them just say, your the detective investigate and gather evidence against me by yourself. The crooks are so stupid here and the do the prosecutions work for them.

From the OP picture it even looks like they gave him real bullets once again, and all those big wigs are watching to see a shot victim fall down.

[fab4]

That's a terrific suggestion, of course you have been throwing out your opinions for years, the only difference being that nobody accepts them as facts. Most of us dismiss them as fiction.

Perhaps that's where you're going wrong then.

I have been posting opinions backed by facts, a large percentage of those posts providing links to those facts. You can dismiss facts as being fiction but they still remain facts.

On the other hand opinions with nothing to back them up..................

[Old Man River]

That's a terrific suggestion, of course you have been throwing out your opinions for years, the only difference being that nobody accepts them as facts. Most of us dismiss them as fiction.

Perhaps that's where you're going wrong then.

I have been posting opinions backed by facts, a large percentage of those posts providing links to those facts. You can dismiss facts as being fiction but they still remain facts.

On the other hand opinions with nothing to back them up..................

We will know soon what the facts on this one really are.

[halloween]

Because I don't have a link to hand. But I didn't expect YOU to remember it as your memory is rather selective.

Lookee. I found it in under a minute.

"As soon as she took over as premier, Tarit was clever enough to cut down the number of political cases in his hand from the 281 he had in 2010 during Abhisit Vejjajiva's time to 48 cases last year and to just four cases this year."

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/DSI-chief-is-proving-to-be-a-powerful-political-to-30182713.html

Ah thank you, an ever so non partisan article by Piyanart Srivalo .

So "hundreds" of investigations of 2010 red shirt crimes were dropped. Which translates to

As soon as she took over as premier, Tarit was clever enough to cut down the number of political cases in his hand from the 281 he had in 2010 during Abhisit Vejjajiva's time to 48 cases last year and to just four cases this year.

He chose to drop several cases against members of the ruling Pheu Thai Party and the red shirts.

39 of those cases presumably being the Lese Majeste cases brought by abhisit, who was not backward in coming forward when it came to using Lese majeste as a political tool

By 2007, the number of charges increased almost fourfold to 126. This number jumped to 164 in 2009, and then tripled to 478 cases in 2010.

The most dramatic increases occurred under the Democrat Party-led government of Abhisit Vejjajiva, which adopted a royalist line strongly backed by the military.

http://www.asiasentinel.com/society/thailand-tightens-the-lese-majeste-screws/

OK, so lets look at the rest of the "hundreds of cases" that were "dropped".

Oh wait, there's no mention of any other cases in the link provided, let alone spelt out in detail.

You're going to have to try harder than that, but then again, why bother, just throw out opinion as fact, somebody will believe you, especially on here.

So hundreds should have read 196? Because Tarit decided they had no merit. He also decided that Yingluk didn't commit perjury (in the link, but ignored by you), going as far as to redefine the crime. On that basis, what chances are there that other cases deserved investigation?

One of the beneficiaries of Tarit's largesse was a clown named Jatuporn, when Tarit decided that the phrase "royally-bestowed bullets" wasn't LM.

Edited September 13, 2014 by halloween

[Baerboxer]

That's a terrific suggestion, of course you have been throwing out your opinions for years, the only difference being that nobody accepts them as facts. Most of us dismiss them as fiction.

Perhaps that's where you're going wrong then.

I have been posting opinions backed by facts, a large percentage of those posts providing links to those facts. You can dismiss facts as being fiction but they still remain facts.

On the other hand opinions with nothing to back them up..................

Do you accept the fact that Chalerm blatantly lied, several times regarding the MiB, which he denied existed but knew who they were?

Do you accept the fact that Chalerm slowed down to an apparent stop work on this case?

Do you accept Tarit accepted instructions from his political masters? Which in most countries, given his position in the justice department, would lead to charges of perverting the course of justice.

Do you accept CAPO prevented the arrest of anyone attacking and killing anti PTP protesters?

You can pretend that Thaksin is innocent, Yingluck is competent, Chalerm and Tarit are truthful and support justice if you want too. But many see through the blatant often conflicting lies and denials that various Thaksin puppets trot out on command.

[fab4]

This is still the topic of "new DSI team to investigate MiB" ?

You tell me. I was replying to your post - surely that can't have been off topic?

[rubl]

That's a terrific suggestion, of course you have been throwing out your opinions for years, the only difference being that nobody accepts them as facts. Most of us dismiss them as fiction.

Perhaps that's where you're going wrong then.

I have been posting opinions backed by facts, a large percentage of those posts providing links to those facts. You can dismiss facts as being fiction but they still remain facts.

On the other hand opinions with nothing to back them up..................

The facts you post links to as in many cases what other people say without too much background on why that should be correct. Anything you like seems to be a fact somehow.

Witht this I get the impression that the only 'tangible' facts against all you stand for, you would accept are those with the signature "Thaksin S." and personally handed to you by that great man.

.

So, let's get on with the investigation. At the least we need to clear the name of Ms. Yingluck.

Edited September 13, 2014 by rubl

[billd766]

Because I don't have a link to hand. But I didn't expect YOU to remember it as your memory is rather selective.

Lookee. I found it in under a minute.

"As soon as she took over as premier, Tarit was clever enough to cut down the number of political cases in his hand from the 281 he had in 2010 during Abhisit Vejjajiva's time to 48 cases last year and to just four cases this year."

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/DSI-chief-is-proving-to-be-a-powerful-political-to-30182713.html

Ah thank you, an ever so non partisan article by Piyanart Srivalo .

So "hundreds" of investigations of 2010 red shirt crimes were dropped. Which translates to

As soon as she took over as premier, Tarit was clever enough to cut down the number of political cases in his hand from the 281 he had in 2010 during Abhisit Vejjajiva's time to 48 cases last year and to just four cases this year.

He chose to drop several cases against members of the ruling Pheu Thai Party and the red shirts.

39 of those cases presumably being the Lese Majeste cases brought by abhisit, who was not backward in coming forward when it came to using Lese majeste as a political tool

By 2007, the number of charges increased almost fourfold to 126. This number jumped to 164 in 2009, and then tripled to 478 cases in 2010.

The most dramatic increases occurred under the Democrat Party-led government of Abhisit Vejjajiva, which adopted a royalist line strongly backed by the military.

http://www.asiasentinel.com/society/thailand-tightens-the-lese-majeste-screws/

OK, so lets look at the rest of the "hundreds of cases" that were "dropped".

Oh wait, there's no mention of any other cases in the link provided, let alone spelt out in detail.

You're going to have to try harder than that, but then again, why bother, just throw out opinion as fact, somebody will believe you, especially on here.

Why should he try harder to throw out opinion as fact and expect some people will believe him?

perhaps he has taken your example and copied you, however I don't think that is so.

You do it all the time and backpedal, obfuscate, change the subject and deny what you said all the time.

[ramrod711]

That's a terrific suggestion, of course you have been throwing out your opinions for years, the only difference being that nobody accepts them as facts. Most of us dismiss them as fiction.

Perhaps that's where you're going wrong then.

I have been posting opinions backed by facts, a large percentage of those posts providing links to those facts. You can dismiss facts as being fiction but they still remain facts.

On the other hand opinions with nothing to back them up..................

Facts in articles that you approve of, that back your point of view. When other posters present articles contrary to your beliefs they are dismissed. You have frequently made reference to the fact that it's difficult to gain approval on this forum for your opinions. May I humbly suggest that the majority of other posters on here are entitled to interpret the material they read just as you do, and that they may be right. I've seen and read most of the posts by you and your fellow Thaksin apologists, and the common thread seems to be democracy, that the majority should rule. In this instance I agree with you, the vast majority disagree with you. It's because you are wrong.

[billd766]

Instead of the PM bragging about knowing the names, how about he does something about it and have them arrested, and exposed, instead of saying you'd be surprised whos on the list!! ??

Or is there names on that list that are known to him, and that they could very well have been RTA soldiers working for the other side, and that by exposing these names, it calls into question the RTA?

Put up, or Shut up Mr. PM, where's the transparency on this one sir?

Did you ask the same thing when Chalerm was quoting how much he knew about the MiB?

Strange how the Army backing the police in 3 months can find them, but the Police and DSI under the PTP, Yingluck (nobody told me anything) and Chalerm were in charge and couldn't find them in oner 3 years, even though it seems that the DSI knew who they were anyway.

[halloween]

This is still the topic of "new DSI team to investigate MiB" ?

You tell me. I was replying to your post - surely that can't have been off topic?

Well, you could have tried to denigrate my original post, that political interference in police investigations for self-benefit is corruption. Was that too difficult?

[Fat Haggis]

Instead of the PM bragging about knowing the names, how about he does something about it and have them arrested, and exposed, instead of saying you'd be surprised whos on the list!! ??

Or is there names on that list that are known to him, and that they could very well have been RTA soldiers working for the other side, and that by exposing these names, it calls into question the RTA?

Put up, or Shut up Mr. PM, where's the transparency on this one sir?

Did you ask the same thing when Chalerm was quoting how much he knew about the MiB?

Strange how the Army backing the police in 3 months can find them, but the Police and DSI under the PTP, Yingluck (nobody told me anything) and Chalerm were in charge and couldn't find them in oner 3 years, even though it seems that the DSI knew who they were anyway.

Yeah I probably did, but my comment is about what's going on now, right now, today, you know, the present, and if the PM wants to prove to the country he's the right man for the job, then making such statements as little tidbits makes him NO BETTER than Chalerm when he was doing the same..

It's exactly the same old Thailand if he does that, and he's supposed to be putting Thailands interests first, well instead of making such statements, how about one that states "We have in CUSTODY those accountable and responsible for the actions of the MIB" and will be making a full press statement in the next 24-48 hours"

It's like a 12 year old telling his friends " I have a secret, but I'm not telling you what it is" , it's designed to peak curiosity, either he's taking action right now, and apprehending those responsible, or there's names that are untouchable on that alleged list and he's no bette than Chalerm.. it's really that simple..

Same same but different???

[fab4]

So hundreds should have read 196? Because Tarit decided they had no merit. He also decided that Yingluk didn't commit perjury (in the link, but ignored by you), going as far as to redefine the crime. On that basis, what chances are there that other cases deserved investigation?

You said hundreds of cases were dropped after the election (2011) and then backed up that opinion with an article whose author states that Tharit decided to drop several cases against the reds shirt and PTP. If he meant 196? cases against the UDD/PTP were dropped by Tharit he would have stated hundreds, not several.

[fab4]

This is still the topic of "new DSI team to investigate MiB" ?

You tell me. I was replying to your post - surely that can't have been off topic?

Well, you could have tried to denigrate my original post, that political interference in police investigations for self-benefit is corruption. Was that too difficult?

Have you morphed into rubl?

[AleG]

Instead of the PM bragging about knowing the names, how about he does something about it and have them arrested, and exposed, instead of saying you'd be surprised whos on the list!! ??

Or is there names on that list that are known to him, and that they could very well have been RTA soldiers working for the other side, and that by exposing these names, it calls into question the RTA?

Put up, or Shut up Mr. PM, where's the transparency on this one sir?

Did you ask the same thing when Chalerm was quoting how much he knew about the MiB?

Strange how the Army backing the police in 3 months can find them, but the Police and DSI under the PTP, Yingluck (nobody told me anything) and Chalerm were in charge and couldn't find them in oner 3 years, even though it seems that the DSI knew who they were anyway.

Yeah I probably did, but my comment is about what's going on now, right now, today, you know, the present, and if the PM wants to prove to the country he's the right man for the job, then making such statements as little tidbits makes him NO BETTER than Chalerm when he was doing the same..

It's exactly the same old Thailand if he does that, and he's supposed to be putting Thailands interests first, well instead of making such statements, how about one that states "We have in CUSTODY those accountable and responsible for the actions of the MIB" and will be making a full press statement in the next 24-48 hours"

It's like a 12 year old telling his friends " I have a secret, but I'm not telling you what it is" , it's designed to peak curiosity, either he's taking action right now, and apprehending those responsible, or there's names that are untouchable on that alleged list and he's no bette than Chalerm.. it's really that simple..

Same same but different???

There is a very big difference between Chalerm's and Prayuth's remarks, the comments from the general came after alleged "MiBs" and others responsible for violent acts have been arrested, Chalerm's after... nothing and were followed by bugger all too.

So one is backed with concrete actions, the other is hot air; I'd say Prayuth, in this regard (and any other I could think of) is way, WAY better than Chalerm.

[halloween]

Yeah I probably did, but my comment is about what's going on now, right now, today, you know, the present, and if the PM wants to prove to the country he's the right man for the job, then making such statements as little tidbits makes him NO BETTER than Chalerm when he was doing the same..

It's exactly the same old Thailand if he does that, and he's supposed to be putting Thailands interests first, well instead of making such statements, how about one that states "We have in CUSTODY those accountable and responsible for the actions of the MIB" and will be making a full press statement in the next 24-48 hours"

It's like a 12 year old telling his friends " I have a secret, but I'm not telling you what it is" , it's designed to peak curiosity, either he's taking action right now, and apprehending those responsible, or there's names that are untouchable on that alleged list and he's no bette than Chalerm.. it's really that simple..

Same same but different???

the obvious difference is that people ARE now being arrested, and investigations re-started after their hibernation. Chalerm was just blowing smoke; there was never any intention for arrests to be made, for the obvious reasons.

BTW it is "pique curiosity"

[See the bears]

[Fat Haggis]

Thanks for the Grammar lessons

I'm not refering to the arrests of recent days, I'm refering to the PM stating he knows who they all are, and the names on the list are surprising, so name them, because they SHOULD be in custody before he makes such a statement.

I'm not interested in what Chalerm did or didn't do, there's not much can be done to change the past, unless you have a time machine handy?? I'm pretty sure most people of intellect have known Chalerm was a stooge, and incompetent clown, but it's what happens today that effects tomorrow, lets get past the failings of Chalerm and the PTP and make sure that the Junta don't start going down the same route.

There's several statements the good General has made that's not quite ringing true.. the Lotto cards issue...NOT resolved, the Taxi Mafia...NOT resolved, the Jetski Mafia..NOT resolved, a few token arrests here and there but right now these scammers are hard at work, nothing has changed.

The General/PM needs to start delivering what's he's promised or else he's no better than anyone's shoes he's filled from the past.

[Old Man River]

Instead of the PM bragging about knowing the names, how about he does something about it and have them arrested, and exposed, instead of saying you'd be surprised whos on the list!! ??

Or is there names on that list that are known to him, and that they could very well have been RTA soldiers working for the other side, and that by exposing these names, it calls into question the RTA?

Put up, or Shut up Mr. PM, where's the transparency on this one sir?

Did you ask the same thing when Chalerm was quoting how much he knew about the MiB?

Strange how the Army backing the police in 3 months can find them, but the Police and DSI under the PTP, Yingluck (nobody told me anything) and Chalerm were in charge and couldn't find them in oner 3 years, even though it seems that the DSI knew who they were anyway.

Yeah I probably did, but my comment is about what's going on now, right now, today, you know, the present, and if the PM wants to prove to the country he's the right man for the job, then making such statements as little tidbits makes him NO BETTER than Chalerm when he was doing the same..

It's exactly the same old Thailand if he does that, and he's supposed to be putting Thailands interests first, well instead of making such statements, how about one that states "We have in CUSTODY those accountable and responsible for the actions of the MIB" and will be making a full press statement in the next 24-48 hours"

It's like a 12 year old telling his friends " I have a secret, but I'm not telling you what it is" , it's designed to peak curiosity, either he's taking action right now, and apprehending those responsible, or there's names that are untouchable on that alleged list and he's no bette than Chalerm.. it's really that simple..

Same same but different???

Not the same, IMHO. Hypothetically, if you know one person who hires a local group, that doesn't mean you have the whole picture. If you release all that you have, you could end up with some disbelieving if/when you make the connections later.

[Thai at Heart]

Meanwhile, four male members of the "men in black" yesterday re-enacted their alleged crimes at Khok Wua

So the crime is still alleged even though you reenact it? Surely this has to come after you plead guilty? In which case you have confessed and so its not alleged?

Or is it really just for show? You reenact something and then claim you didn't do it?

[Fat Haggis]

Instead of the PM bragging about knowing the names, how about he does something about it and have them arrested, and exposed, instead of saying you'd be surprised whos on the list!! ??

Or is there names on that list that are known to him, and that they could very well have been RTA soldiers working for the other side, and that by exposing these names, it calls into question the RTA?

Put up, or Shut up Mr. PM, where's the transparency on this one sir?

Did you ask the same thing when Chalerm was quoting how much he knew about the MiB?

Strange how the Army backing the police in 3 months can find them, but the Police and DSI under the PTP, Yingluck (nobody told me anything) and Chalerm were in charge and couldn't find them in oner 3 years, even though it seems that the DSI knew who they were anyway.

Yeah I probably did, but my comment is about what's going on now, right now, today, you know, the present, and if the PM wants to prove to the country he's the right man for the job, then making such statements as little tidbits makes him NO BETTER than Chalerm when he was doing the same..

It's exactly the same old Thailand if he does that, and he's supposed to be putting Thailands interests first, well instead of making such statements, how about one that states "We have in CUSTODY those accountable and responsible for the actions of the MIB" and will be making a full press statement in the next 24-48 hours"

It's like a 12 year old telling his friends " I have a secret, but I'm not telling you what it is" , it's designed to peak curiosity, either he's taking action right now, and apprehending those responsible, or there's names that are untouchable on that alleged list and he's no bette than Chalerm.. it's really that simple..

Same same but different???

Not the same, IMHO. Hypothetically, if you know one person who hires a local group, that doesn't mean you have the whole picture. If you release all that you have, you could end up with some disbelieving if/when you make the connections later.

Hence why it's better to wait till you have them all in the bag, before making these statements, that way, there's no way someone gets a spidey sense/warning that he's about to be nabbed and does a runner, you hit them all at the same time on the same day, without warning minimising the risk of "runners"

[halloween]

This is still the topic of "new DSI team to investigate MiB" ?

You tell me. I was replying to your post - surely that can't have been off topic?

Well, you could have tried to denigrate my original post, that political interference in police investigations for self-benefit is corruption. Was that too difficult?

Have you morphed into rubl?

No. Are you avoiding the question or changing the subject (again)?

[Old Man River]

Instead of the PM bragging about knowing the names, how about he does something about it and have them arrested, and exposed, instead of saying you'd be surprised whos on the list!! ??

Or is there names on that list that are known to him, and that they could very well have been RTA soldiers working for the other side, and that by exposing these names, it calls into question the RTA?

Put up, or Shut up Mr. PM, where's the transparency on this one sir?

Did you ask the same thing when Chalerm was quoting how much he knew about the MiB?

Strange how the Army backing the police in 3 months can find them, but the Police and DSI under the PTP, Yingluck (nobody told me anything) and Chalerm were in charge and couldn't find them in oner 3 years, even though it seems that the DSI knew who they were anyway.

Yeah I probably did, but my comment is about what's going on now, right now, today, you know, the present, and if the PM wants to prove to the country he's the right man for the job, then making such statements as little tidbits makes him NO BETTER than Chalerm when he was doing the same..

It's exactly the same old Thailand if he does that, and he's supposed to be putting Thailands interests first, well instead of making such statements, how about one that states "We have in CUSTODY those accountable and responsible for the actions of the MIB" and will be making a full press statement in the next 24-48 hours"

It's like a 12 year old telling his friends " I have a secret, but I'm not telling you what it is" , it's designed to peak curiosity, either he's taking action right now, and apprehending those responsible, or there's names that are untouchable on that alleged list and he's no bette than Chalerm.. it's really that simple..

Same same but different???

Not the same, IMHO. Hypothetically, if you know one person who hires a local group, that doesn't mean you have the whole picture. If you release all that you have, you could end up with some disbelieving if/when you make the connections later.

Hence why it's better to wait till you have them all in the bag, before making these statements, that way, there's no way someone gets a spidey sense/warning that he's about to be nabbed and does a runner, you hit them all at the same time on the same day, without warning minimising the risk of "runners"

Its a gamble. The downside is some escape, the upside is in the scramble they are able to make connections they haven't already been able to make. My view is this isn't just about getting some bad guys off the street.