Over 20 big foreign criminal gangs here

[peterdarby]

Well the way I read it was simple. There are 20 known gangs in Thailand which are run by foreigners. I don't have any issue as a foreigner regarding what has been said. He didn't say ALL foreign visitors or even those that are working or retired here. He stated a fact based on what they know. I would have thought it would be easier to look at that rather than jumping on the race card like most of these posts have.

Quite so. They are not saying that the 20 gangs create all the problems, or that they are a bigger issue than local gangs, just that they are aware of them and need to find effective means of countering them. What are they supposed to do, ignore them?

[iReason]

"while law-enforcement personnel were reshuffled regularly, as a result they could not keep pace with the criminals effectively."

Off to the inactive posts?

[bendywire]

What about the Singaporean Chinese running illegal football, online gambling and also women trafficking rings here, the Malaysain Chinese Groups involved in credit card fraud and atm fraud, the taiwanese and main chinese involved in call centre scams, the koreans and japanese involved in money laundering scams and also women trafficking and porn production, etc. Why so geared towards the white skinned farangs??? Xenophobic pigs! Waht about Thai criminal gangs starting from corrupted government officials, corrupt police, corrupt justice officials, etc etc etc.

All you stupid farangs out there...get up and start doing something to protect your dignity.

Are you sure that you're not being xenophobic here.

but he's right . Thai mafia criminality is bigger than any falangs.

I'm sorry but I beg to differ. Where he failed in his rant was his reading skills. The second paragraph was just him ranting about another issue that has nothing to do with the said article. I am quite sure there are many more Thai gangs but the article is about foreign run gangs and as such there is nothing to suggest xenophobia. It really is a shame that some people only read between the lines.

[paddyjenkins]

What about the Singaporean Chinese running illegal football, online gambling and also women trafficking rings here, the Malaysain Chinese Groups involved in credit card fraud and atm fraud, the taiwanese and main chinese involved in call centre scams, the koreans and japanese involved in money laundering scams and also women trafficking and porn production, etc. Why so geared towards the white skinned farangs??? Xenophobic pigs! Waht about Thai criminal gangs starting from corrupted government officials, corrupt police, corrupt justice officials, etc etc etc.

All you stupid farangs out there...get up and start doing something to protect your dignity.

Excellent points.

[paddyjenkins]

What about the Singaporean Chinese running illegal football, online gambling and also women trafficking rings here, the Malaysain Chinese Groups involved in credit card fraud and atm fraud, the taiwanese and main chinese involved in call centre scams, the koreans and japanese involved in money laundering scams and also women trafficking and porn production, etc. Why so geared towards the white skinned farangs??? Xenophobic pigs! Waht about Thai criminal gangs starting from corrupted government officials, corrupt police, corrupt justice officials, etc etc etc.

All you stupid farangs out there...get up and start doing something to protect your dignity.

Are you sure that you're not being xenophobic here.

but he's right . Thai mafia criminality is bigger than any falangs.

I'm sorry but I beg to differ. Where he failed in his rant was his reading skills. The second paragraph was just him ranting about another issue that has nothing to do with the said article. I am quite sure there are many more Thai gangs but the article is about foreign run gangs and as such there is nothing to suggest xenophobia. It really is a shame that some people only read between the lines.

There indeed is a lot to suggest a disproportionate focus on certain ethnic groups and the total exclusion of Asian groups, who are far great in number, such as Chinese and Malaysian gangs, involved in everything from people trafficking and sex slavery to call centre and card fraud. Why not mention these groups? Perhaps because "white" is an easier target or "white" just a colour they don't like to see? Yes, eradicate the European and Latin American gangs, but if they ignore the bigger problem by far of Asian gangs, then why take them seriously, why not call them racist and ignorant if that is an accurate description?

[kannot]

Oh dear Thais not smart enough to do the fraud themselves, damn these foreigners taking away jobs from the Thais

[Crazy chef 1]

What about the Singaporean Chinese running illegal football, online gambling and also women trafficking rings here, the Malaysain Chinese Groups involved in credit card fraud and atm fraud, the taiwanese and main chinese involved in call centre scams, the koreans and japanese involved in money laundering scams and also women trafficking and porn production, etc. Why so geared towards the white skinned farangs??? Xenophobic pigs! Waht about Thai criminal gangs starting from corrupted government officials, corrupt police, corrupt justice officials, etc etc etc.

All you stupid farangs out there...get up and start doing something to protect your dignity.

cha cha my friend.they are just bollocking the farang gangs because they are jealous that their own criminals are not smart enough for this kind of crimes and still have to stick to the old fashion robbery,jet ski,taxi/tuk tuk scams and so on.

[stoffel45]

I really like how they blame these gangs on their easy entry into thailand. If they even bothered to look the USA and Aus and UK have the same problems in their countries and in greater numbers. Just wait till the triads and yakuza get here.

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"...Just wait till the triads and yakuza get here."

The Triads from Hong Kong and mainland China have been running crime in Thailand for decades.

Chiang Mai, Samui, Phuket, Pattaya and all the rest.

[Artisi]

Yeah what about the motorbike gangs like the Outlaws in Bangkok? They dont count?

I saw two Hells Angles, riding in Chiang Mai, yesterday. Thailand is basically an easy country for foreign criminals to conduct business. The Thai police have never been accused of being crime fighters.

"Crime fighters" that would be internal conflict, wouldn't it?

[Triplebank999]

Yeah what about the motorbike gangs like the Outlaws in Bangkok? They dont count?

Aren't they just a dirty bunch of has-been greasers who like to think they are in charge of something mainly because they (used to?) provide security for the boiler room boys?

They are very similar to some Thai thugs that get mentions here in that they have to hang out in a group because one overweight-middle-aged-balding-on-top-with-a-straggly-grey-ponytail is useless security on his own.

[darrendsd]

Let's do a study on Thai criminal gangs and you can easily add 2 zeroes to that number. But, to keep the peace, lets do it the Argentinian way: blame the foreigners!

Please get a grip, I am sick of the "blame the farangs" mentality of some people, this article simply states there is a problem with some gangs here, it's a news story that's what news stories do, print stories, same as they will print stories about Thai criminals.

[Triplebank999]

Yeah what about the motorbike gangs like the Outlaws in Bangkok? They dont count?

I saw two Hells Angles, riding in Chiang Mai, yesterday. Thailand is basically an easy country for foreign criminals to conduct business. The Thai police have never been accused of being crime fighters.

Really, two men on bikes? That's interesting. I saw hundreds of blokes on motorbikes yesterday in Bangkok.

[yellowboat]

The thing that should be asked, is why? If the whole of society. Was not corrupt. They would not be here.

exactly . Thailand needs tougher visa regs on many more countries and the elimination of corruption to prevent them being circumvented. Haha. I know thats impossible

For them, it makes sense setting up a (front) company here and getting a visa. If you have a company say in Hong Kong and buy (legitimate) products from Thailand and need to be here to oversees completion, better to look elsewhere. It is too hard now

[apalink_thailand]

Yeah what about the motorbike gangs like the Outlaws in Bangkok? They dont count?

And the boiler house boys which are also linked to the bike gangs. However, they are smart enough to kick back money to their protectors.

[arthurboy]

What about the expat shysters posing as lawyers, boiler room investment experts etc.

[apalink_thailand]

Yeah what about the motorbike gangs like the Outlaws in Bangkok? They dont count?

Aren't they just a dirty bunch of has-been greasers who like to think they are in charge of something mainly because they (used to?) provide security for the boiler room boys?

They are very similar to some Thai thugs that get mentions here in that they have to hang out in a group because one overweight-middle-aged-balding-on-top-with-a-straggly-grey-ponytail is useless security on his own.

Nope, the Outlaws are much more than greasers. You may be referring to some of the benign MC's that just like to ride and many of whom raise lots of money for charity (Jesters for example).

[Loles]

Of course the foreign criminal gangs may compete with local criminal gangs, so it's time to make finish for competiton.

Edited September 14, 2014 by Loles

[Triplebank999]

The thing that should be asked, is why? If the whole of society. Was not corrupt. They would not be here.

So the presence of criminal gangs in a country makes that country 100% corrupt? By that logic every single country in the world is wholly corrupt, unless you can name one that does not have criminal gangs, of course, so what is your point?

[OmarZaidMD]

Although I am sad to read this report on organized wickedness, I am also encouraged by the attention it appears to be receiving on the part of authorities. Nevertheless, in order for real change to occur, reform begins with the self, meaning that Thai authorities must first deal with the domestic issues and felons that allow and inform such mischief. Possible? Yes. Probable, unlikely -- unless reform reaches the elite who so oppress the nation's poor.

[MediaWatcher]

PaullyW, on 14 Sept 2014 - 07:11, said:

20 big foreign gangs and one massive Thai homegrown one: RTP

I'd like to now how they know there are 20 foreign gangs, yet so far have failed to arrest any.... sorry, but I think they are simply looking for positive headlining. Another chance to flog the "foreign" horse again, but fail to take action against local Thai gangs.

[Rimbuman]

Meanwhile, Immigration initiates a "crackdown" affecting mostly harmless, honest, lawful foreigners and creates a climate of uncertainty and confusion. The foreign criminal ratbags continue to operate with impunity, unaffected by border runs, work permits, etc.

Hmmmmm, sometimes you can state matters that make sense.

[SOTIRIOS]

....hey.....those are protected professions in Thailand......!!!

[Triplebank999]

Thailand always have been, still is, and will be, a haven/paradise for criminals, where else can you live

and operate with impunity, bribe the locals, be it government, police or just anybody, with small

amount of money? live in obscurity with fake credentials, or better yet, marry a local to act as a front

to your dirty deeds? be able to transfer and receive large amounts of money with minimal risk?

only in the land of smiles.... and I know, if I was a criminal, I'd be setting my home here too...

"be able to transfer and receive large amounts of money with minimal risk".

Do you mean through the banking system? If you do, you're wrong, the Bank of Thailand asks many questions when large amounts go in or out of the country.

If you mean carrying cash in and out, then Thailand is no easier than any other country.

[icharsue]

So if card skimming is such a problem then why the delay introducing chip and pin like in the UK?

All to easy to ignore the failing of the banking system in Thailand and other non-chip & pin countries and blame it on a certain group as if other countries don't have fraudsters operating! Pathetic

[Carrerakiss]

What this article failed to mention is another element that makes Thailand so appealing to gangs/crooks is the fact that it it only takes a few baht to have the authorities turn a blind eye to their illegal enterprises.

I feel that this pretty much hits the nail on the head. It's very easy to travel to most countries in Asia (with a few notable exceptions such s N Korea), but not always so easy to bribe police, or at the least have a police force that has such a laid back attitude to law enforcement.

There is also the issue of having concentrated areas of tourism. They are usually prime areas for crime due to the high numbers of strangers mingling and people focusing on having a good time rather than the safety of their belongings.

[kaobang]

shame and blame farang because they bring crime in the pacific thai land and corrupt the young thais

[Triplebank999]

Aren't they just a dirty bunch of has-been greasers who like to think they are in charge of something mainly because they (used to?) provide security for the boiler room boys?

They are very similar to some Thai thugs that get mentions here in that they have to hang out in a group because one overweight-middle-aged-balding-on-top-with-a-straggly-grey-ponytail is useless security on his own.

Nope, the Outlaws are much more than greasers. You may be referring to some of the benign MC's that just like to ride and many of whom raise lots of money for charity (Jesters for example).

"Nope, the Outlaws are much more than greasers."

"Nope", they're not really, but carry on anyway...what exactly are they in Thailand? ,

Edited September 14, 2014 by Triplebank999

[bander]

Over 20 big foreign criminal gangs here

How big are they exactly on a scale from 1 to 10?

Do I smell racism here?

What about big Thai criminal gangs, jet ski and tuk-tuk mafia have been operating for decades without any interference from the authority's, what is Thailand Institute of Justice doing in this matter?

Edited September 14, 2014 by bander

[bangrak]

What about the Singaporean Chinese running illegal football, online gambling and also women trafficking rings here, the Malaysain Chinese Groups involved in credit card fraud and atm fraud, the taiwanese and main chinese involved in call centre scams, the koreans and japanese involved in money laundering scams and also women trafficking and porn production, etc. Why so geared towards the white skinned farangs??? Xenophobic pigs! Waht about Thai criminal gangs starting from corrupted government officials, corrupt police, corrupt justice officials, etc etc etc.

All you stupid farangs out there...get up and start doing something to protect your dignity.

Are you sure that you're not being xenophobic here.

but he's right . Thai mafia criminality is bigger than any falangs.

I'm sorry but I beg to differ. Where he failed in his rant was his reading skills. The second paragraph was just him ranting about another issue that has nothing to do with the said article. I am quite sure there are many more Thai gangs but the article is about foreign run gangs and as such there is nothing to suggest xenophobia. It really is a shame that some people only read between the lines.

'Upset' should clearly not have called the Thais 'pigs', let's consider he did it only because he is, upset... But for the rest of what he writes, I alas have to agree with him: yes, the Thais in general are xenophobes and racists, the more so in groups or around their 'homes', and, yes, why are the numerous Asian criminal organisations from various countries totally kept out of the scope, while they are evidently, and eminently present, when it would not be for xenophobe and/or racist reasons? As for the 'Farangs'' organised crime organisations (too): they would never ever have been able to hide here, establish themselves, and grow, without the, very, active 'collaboration' of the RTP, officials of all kinds, ...and some local Thai maffias, all getting better with it, financially for sure, but also in perceived 'importance' towards their people.

[jacko45k]

Let's do a study on Thai criminal gangs and you can easily add 2 zeroes to that number. But, to keep the peace, lets do it the Argentinian way: blame the foreigners!

This type of report does dismay me somewhat, it comes across as xenophobic.

I recall another report many years ago on how foreign tourists were to blame for littering of all the Thailand beaches, as they left behind empty bottles and cartons etc .

You would almost believe that the foreigners were landing at Swampy with 20kg of litter in their cases and 5kg in their carry on to deliberately tip onto the beaches as soon as they got there...... when in reality they simply wanted to throw down their towels and lie in the warm sun and have sand kicked over them by the irate owners of the beaches.

Edited September 14, 2014 by jacko45k