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Hello guys,



I am looking to relocate to Thailand for around six months to begin with.



My goal is to find a place with reliable Internet where I can sit and work all day long for a while. Chiang Mai seems like the best bet for finding that, but I am also very open for going to Bangkok, especially with the burning season up north.



I am not dependent on super-fast Internet (it would be nice of course), but I do coaching worldwide over Skype (just via sound is fine, don't need video) so the Internet needs to be good enough for that, and also as reliable as possible of course.



Do anyone of you here have any direct experience of accommodations which actually has Internet that matches this requirement?



I am googling myself crazy here, but it seems that the common theme is that Internet everywhere is highly unstable, with speeds fluctuating a lot, etc?



Basically I'm looking for a small studio/apartment where I can sit and work from home all day long. Don't need much, I'll work from my bed if I have to if only the Internet is good enough (although a desk or good couch would be nice). I'll upgrade the location and space when I'm making more money. I would love to find a place that cost max 6-7k/mo. But, when that being said, I am also willing to spend upwards of 15k-20k/mo if that's what it takes to get the good enough Internet connection.



Thanks in advance for advise and help!



// Chris


Edited by zone300
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The cost of renting an apartment and the reliability of an internet connection are two different things, IMO.

Rent an apartment that you like for six months. Then - separately - sign up (and pay for) a reliable internet connection that you don't share with everyone else in the apartment building. Worked for me.

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The cost of renting an apartment and the reliability of an internet connection are two different things, IMO.

Rent an apartment that you like for six months. Then - separately - sign up (and pay for) a reliable internet connection that you don't share with everyone else in the apartment building. Worked for me.

Yeah, I've thought about that, but it seems to be a bit of a gamble, though?

There seems to be a lot of differences between the different Internet providers, and also which areas of the city you live in, etc. And I also read stories about it taking the companies a few weeks to get you up and running, and if something isn't as it should be, it seems to be a mess trying to communicate with these companies?

Anyway, thanks a lot for your feedback.

// Chris

Posted

I have a nice Bungalow that is within your Budget, Internet connection very good in this area, if of any interest to you please send me a message.

We are located out of C-Mai

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Bangkok Internet is pretty solid especially around the central area where there are a lot of businesses, I have not had a problem with the internet speed in any of the areas I have stayed for Skype.

Take a look at http://www.thaiapartment.com/ and http://www.ddproperty.com/en

Also take your Laptop when viewing the apartment to test the internet speeds, and also look where in the hallway the WIFI router is as the apartments closest to the Wi-Fi router will be the Fastest connections.

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Post your address here later. Makes it easier for the police to arrest you for working without a work permit. coffee1.gif

Unlikely.

25 August 2014

A leading Thai immigration official told attendees at a meeting last week that tourists who were working online would not face any problems. Colonel Rutphong Sanwanangkun made the statement at a meeting held in the northern city of Chiang Mai.

The colonel, a superintendent at the immigration office in the city, and two other immigration officers met local officials and dignitaries, including honorary British consul Ben Svasti Thomson, at a city hotel. The team stated that people who had entered the country on tourist visas could work remotely, provided they were not working for a Thai company and any income from their work was remitted abroad.

http://12go.asia/en/post/679/thai-officials-say-online-work-no-problem#sthash.LkbOmU35.dpbs

Like it or not, it's a very clear statement regarding tourists working online for non Thai companies and being paid outside of thailand.

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Posted

Post your address here later. Makes it easier for the police to arrest you for working without a work permit. coffee1.gif

Unlikely.

25 August 2014

A leading Thai immigration official told attendees at a meeting last week that tourists who were working online would not face any problems. Colonel Rutphong Sanwanangkun made the statement at a meeting held in the northern city of Chiang Mai.

The colonel, a superintendent at the immigration office in the city, and two other immigration officers met local officials and dignitaries, including honorary British consul Ben Svasti Thomson, at a city hotel. The team stated that people who had entered the country on tourist visas could work remotely, provided they were not working for a Thai company and any income from their work was remitted abroad.

http://12go.asia/en/post/679/thai-officials-say-online-work-no-problem#sthash.LkbOmU35.dpbs

Like it or not, it's a very clear statement regarding tourists working online for non Thai companies and being paid outside of thailand.

By a bloke in Chiang Mai whistling.gif

RAZZ

Posted (edited)

Plenty of places in Bangkok have very reliable connections for sure. One thing you could do is buy a LTE modem and use wireless internet instead, LTE is very stable in my opinion and more than enough for just voice skype. Search where the LTE coverage is, true is the best provider in my opinion.

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Posted

Post your address here later. Makes it easier for the police to arrest you for working without a work permit. coffee1.gif

Unlikely.

25 August 2014

A leading Thai immigration official told attendees at a meeting last week that tourists who were working online would not face any problems. Colonel Rutphong Sanwanangkun made the statement at a meeting held in the northern city of Chiang Mai.

The colonel, a superintendent at the immigration office in the city, and two other immigration officers met local officials and dignitaries, including honorary British consul Ben Svasti Thomson, at a city hotel. The team stated that people who had entered the country on tourist visas could work remotely, provided they were not working for a Thai company and any income from their work was remitted abroad.

http://12go.asia/en/post/679/thai-officials-say-online-work-no-problem#sthash.LkbOmU35.dpbs

Like it or not, it's a very clear statement regarding tourists working online for non Thai companies and being paid outside of thailand.

Somebody can make a statement but as long they don't change the labour law (which they didn't) it means nothing.

Posted (edited)

Post your address here later. Makes it easier for the police to arrest you for working without a work permit. coffee1.gif

Unlikely.

25 August 2014

A leading Thai immigration official told attendees at a meeting last week that tourists who were working online would not face any problems. Colonel Rutphong Sanwanangkun made the statement at a meeting held in the northern city of Chiang Mai.

The colonel, a superintendent at the immigration office in the city, and two other immigration officers met local officials and dignitaries, including honorary British consul Ben Svasti Thomson, at a city hotel. The team stated that people who had entered the country on tourist visas could work remotely, provided they were not working for a Thai company and any income from their work was remitted abroad.

http://12go.asia/en/post/679/thai-officials-say-online-work-no-problem#sthash.LkbOmU35.dpbs

Like it or not, it's a very clear statement regarding tourists working online for non Thai companies and being paid outside of thailand.

Somebody can make a statement but as long they don't change the labour law (which they didn't) it means nothing.

The fact the statement was made (publically, by a leading Immigration official, and unretracted) means that in practice they do not currently consider working online remotely for non Thai companies and being paid outside of Thailand, something that is not expressly adressed in labour law legislation, to require a Non-Imm B and a WP.

The only way this scenario will receive clarification is in the event of a prosecution of someone operating in this manner. It should be noted that whereas there have been many prosecutions of foreigners working in Thailand without a WP, this has never occurred in relation to someone working online, serving non Thai entities, and being paid outside of the country. This is despite thousands if not tens of thousands of individuals doing so, some very overtly - there are commercial coworking spaces in multiple cities serving these types of operators.

The focus of the application of labour legislation in regard to illegal workers has always been upon foreigners illegally operating within Thailand, serving customers in Thailand and in competition with Thai nationals - tour guides, estate agents, F&B industry etc etc.

OP one thing you should be aware of is that some bitterness exists toward remote workers that operate without a WP, especially from other expats who work in industries where they deal with Thai clients and are paid in Thailand. Therefore, in your position I would keep it quiet.

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The fact the statement was made (publically, by a leading Immigration official, and unretracted) means that in practice they do not currently consider working online remotely for non Thai companies and being paid outside of Thailand, something that is not expressly adressed in labour law legislation, to require a Non-Imm B and a WP.

The only way this scenario will receive clarification is in the event of a prosecution of someone operating in this manner. It should be noted that whereas there have been many prosecutions of foreigners working in Thailand without a WP, this has never occurred in relation to someone working online, serving non Thai entities, and being paid outside of the country. This is despite thousands if not tens of thousands of individuals doing so, some very overtly - there are commercial coworking spaces in multiple cities serving these types of operators.

The focus of the application of labour legislation in regard to illegal workers has always been upon foreigners illegally operating within Thailand, serving customers in Thailand and in competition with Thai nationals - tour guides, estate agents, F&B industry etc etc.

OP one thing you should be aware of is that some bitterness exists toward remote workers that operate without a WP, especially from other expats who work in industries where they deal with Thai clients and are paid in Thailand. Therefore, in your position I would keep it quiet.

The labour law says if you work, you need a work permit, even if you don't get paid. It doesn't have to name every profession.

The fact that a lot of people get away with it or that somebody in Chiang Mai will not make a case of it doesn't make it legal.

Posted (edited)

The fact the statement was made (publically, by a leading Immigration official, and unretracted) means that in practice they do not currently consider working online remotely for non Thai companies and being paid outside of Thailand, something that is not expressly adressed in labour law legislation, to require a Non-Imm B and a WP.

The only way this scenario will receive clarification is in the event of a prosecution of someone operating in this manner. It should be noted that whereas there have been many prosecutions of foreigners working in Thailand without a WP, this has never occurred in relation to someone working online, serving non Thai entities, and being paid outside of the country. This is despite thousands if not tens of thousands of individuals doing so, some very overtly - there are commercial coworking spaces in multiple cities serving these types of operators.

The focus of the application of labour legislation in regard to illegal workers has always been upon foreigners illegally operating within Thailand, serving customers in Thailand and in competition with Thai nationals - tour guides, estate agents, F&B industry etc etc.

OP one thing you should be aware of is that some bitterness exists toward remote workers that operate without a WP, especially from other expats who work in industries where they deal with Thai clients and are paid in Thailand. Therefore, in your position I would keep it quiet.

The labour law says if you work, you need a work permit, even if you don't get paid. It doesn't have to name every profession.

The fact that a lot of people get away with it or that somebody in Chiang Mai will not make a case of it doesn't make it legal.

The question is regarding the definition of working in Thailand. Given the statement, it is clear that this immigration official does not consider working online for foreign organisations and being paid abroad to be 'working' in Thailand for the purpose of labour legislation, otherwise he would not state that "people who had entered the country on tourist visas could work remotely, provided they were not working for a Thai company and any income from their work was remitted abroad" - an expressly different perspective to the clear statements and actions regarding paid work servicing Thai customers, paid work that is paid in Thailand, and charity work performed on Thai soil.

That the statement has not been retracted indicates that the department as a whole does not disagree with his interpretation - it was widely reported and debated at the time and would not have gone unnoticed by other immigration officials or the labour department.

Not going to go back and forth on this, since it has been endlessly debated here many times, my perspective will change if I see someone actually prosecuted for working online exclusively for foreign entities and being paid abroad, as has happened with those performing paid and unpaid work in country servicing Thai entities.

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Posted (edited)

Look online and visit this place. VIANGBUA MANSION IN CHIANG MAI

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Ask for monthly rentals...

GREAT PLACE!

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