This type of crime is increasing everywher, but maybe not as much in highly diciplined societies and while alcocol is a factor, hard drugs are responsible for much of the increase. I have a son addicted to smoking "weed" but that has not made him violent.

so much for the paradise island

My first thoughts are always this question on the travel insurance claim...

" how did the accident / incident occur "....

But yes...more quality tourist...

Patong is still full of criminals, small gangs of youths out late at night, drugged up, looking for trouble..pick pockets , thieves... especially around the bangla road area, .. I´ve noticed many small gangs roaming around at night trying to antagonise farangs,.. the cops wont do anything about it cos theres no money in it for them...the army have only partly shaken up some people, these idiots couldnt care less for the law, and they dont think twice about using a weapon, and if you die? they dont care.. nothing serious will be done about the lawlessness until people stop coming here.. only money talks, when it dries up , maybe they´ll start to think why...

will ever thai think it's their fault?!? they will always have an excuse or throw the fault on someone else...

The shootings, stabbings, beatings, bouldering with bats, bricks, rapes, balcony jumpers (pushers) hit and run by cars, and now broken bottles, keeps getting worse and worse, in the "Land of Smiles". Most of these crimes are alcohol related for sure, lets say 98.5 % of them.

If I didn't know better, Id swear I was back in the good old USA

Well, I left the US because no matter what city I was in all I could hear was sirens all e'fin night long.............LOS has its fair share, but nothing like the average US City............I'll stay in good old SE Asia Thank You Much Okay but don't get me started on the Gansta Hip Hop Rap crap coming out of all the cars at about 900db all night long - its no wonder there are so many shootings, stabbings, assaults etc etc etc -

The shootings, stabbings, beatings, bouldering with bats, bricks, rapes, balcony jumpers (pushers) hit and run by cars, and now broken bottles, keeps getting worse and worse, in the "Land of Smiles". Most of these crimes are alcohol related for sure, lets say 98.5 % of them.

If I didn't know better, Id swear I was back in the good old USA

Well, I left the US because no matter what city I was in all I could hear was sirens all e'fin night long.............LOS has its fair share, but nothing like the average US City............I'll stay in good old SE Asia Thank You Much Okay but don't get me started on the Gansta Hip Hop Rap crap coming out of all the cars at about 900db all night long - its no wonder there are so many shootings, stabbings, assaults etc etc etc -

Sirens are a measure of police doing their job--many accuse Thailand Police of not doing their job so the lack of sirens in LOS is not a good indicator of the amount of crime.

BTW, alot of those sirens you heard in the US would have been Paramedics because they are required to have sirens and lights displayed when responding to an emergency. Typically, police keep sirens off and just hit the "airhorn" or "yelp" when necessary.

Cheers

Only Three on one, looks Thai standards are slipping. However they did manage to find the obligatory weapon. Well done the under staffed Thai team.

the maths involved in plotting a position with the aid of a sextant can, I'm told, be quite testing. The maths involved in ratios is much simpler. 1 adult:3children = 3:1. 2adults to 3 children=3:2 and children at that!

Perhaps your maths is better at navigation.

Has Thailand always been this bad, or is it Me taking more notice of it now, or is it more the case of it being much more documented these days ?

No, no and yes would be my best answer.

It once really was the land of smiles!

Has Thailand always been this bad, or is it Me taking more notice of it now, or is it more the case of it being much more documented these days ?

Definitely not, rarely even a hint of this trouble in the 70's, 80's or 90's. Seems to be in the last decade or so, although it has probably increased over time; a bit like the population of resident farangs, who have had a changing effect on the locals. Immigration tends to do that in most places; sometimes for the better, sometimes not.

The days of 1 on 1 and fighting using fists are long gone here.

Not just here mate , all over the world . Gutless people are the same all over .

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The days of 1 on 1 and fighting using fists are long gone here.

You watch too much television.

Hardly a good topic for the Thai bashers is it?

A mix of drunk and possibly stoned people fighting and getting injured, wow!

from what I here sounds like your average Friday/Saturday night in any English city!

Of course it is so commonplace there it hardly ever gets reported, apart from locally.

The reason this does is simply it doesn't happen all the time!

Been coming here for many many years and lived here quite a while, never even seen it, and I sometimes live close to Pattaya which is apparently the hell hole of the world!

This kind of stuff happens in Honolulu Hawaii all the time so Thailand doesn't have a Monopoly on violent crime. I think that Honolulu is worse than Phuket.

Do they have Tourist Police in Phuket ? I didn't see any last time I was there.

They may have all been drunk but you don't read of farang stabbing others with broken beer bottles because that is an act intended to kill.

But it is reported that Thais use such weapons with some frequency. Broken bottles, iron bars.

Unfortunately not true, at least in Oz, UK & USA do a search...

To say that the thais are strange, just look at the number of them surrounding the Aussie ,with their phones out taking photo's.

Staring as though we are an alien and maybe our blood is a different colour..

LOS !

Lesson no. 1 !!!! Not argue with a Thai, keep smiling and walk off. Can't win overhere.

Lesson one stay away from Thailand.

Lesson two... Avoid all Aussie Bogans... Unless, of course, you sell Chang singlets.

The Police should go under cover - pretend to start a fight...

Anyone who pulls out a knife should be fined THB 10,000 and NAMED to be SHAMED in Public...

(If they OR their Family can't afford it - confiscate anything to that value - starting with the FAMILY's Mobile phones!)

They may have all been drunk but you don't read of farang stabbing others with broken beer bottles because that is an act intended to kill.

But it is reported that Thais use such weapons with some frequency. Broken bottles, iron bars.

Unfortunately not true, at least in Oz, UK & USA do a search...

I can't speak for Oz and the UK but in the US, being stabbed with a broken bottle is not a typical nightcap to a night of drinking except in old Westerns on television.

Particularly out on a public sidewalk or pedestrian walkway.

Walking about with no shirts on ...mmmm quality tourists

They have got to be the 2 skinniest Aussies I have ever seen

Phuket is the new Bali for bogans

Now that is a pretty funny observation...bogans?

Do they have Tourist Police in Phuket ? I didn't see any last time I was there.

tourist police can be spotted round any bar which offers them a discount on their beers

Quality Australian tourists.

That would be an oxymoron for some of the young ones, unfortunately. But some are like that in their own country!

I am sorry for this guys parents who have to put up with his s**t. Hope he recovers and along with his mates, learns a lesson.

They may have all been drunk but you don't read of farang stabbing others with broken beer bottles because that is an act intended to kill.

But it is reported that Thais use such weapons with some frequency. Broken bottles, iron bars.

Unfortunately not true, at least in Oz, UK & USA do a search...

I can't speak for Oz and the UK but in the US, being stabbed with a broken bottle is not a typical nightcap to a night of drinking except in old Westerns on television.

Particularly out on a public sidewalk or pedestrian walkway.

Just pointing out this incident if not unique to Thailand as some seem to infer. Not saying it's typical of a night out in Western countries, nor would I say it's typical in Thailand.

Edited September 28, 201411 yr by simple1

and will the <deleted> Thai be paying the hospital bills for the farang?

some of your comments are unbelievable......NONE of you have any idea what happened but you've all blamed something or someone. He is a tourist, he doesn't know that you walk away from a Thai confrontation, it may not have involved alcohol........wasn't a farang bar owner recently bashed and had his throat cut with a broken beer bottle by a few Thai teens over a dispute because the Thai's were sitting on the farangs scooter, none of you have any idea what has happened with this Aussie kid. What we do know is that too many foreigners are being viciously assaulted and/or killed in Thailand and something needs to seriously change eg; Thai attitudes to tourists and Foreigners.

Actually I do know what happened. The Aussie is in the Australian army and was here on R and R after doing military training in Malaysia. He was drunk and got into an argument with a few Thai's. Instead of letting it go, he wanted to continue and fight. This was the result. The Thai also got stabbed by the Aussie, which isn't mentioned here. He will be reprimanded by his superiors once he recovers and can return home.

Edited September 29, 201411 yr by Phuketboy

You must wonder how these things do start.obvious some side does bait the other first and from what i have seen and heard, i got a pretty good idea which side starts it up

Two sides to every one of these, I'd bet those Aussie kids had a few drinks under their belts.

One of my sons went to Thailand, putting shit on Thais left, right and centre; told him to go to a Mai Thai school and 'give em a lesson' ... once again, he ignored my advice (smarter than I thought)

and will the <deleted> Thai be paying the hospital bills for the farang?

Their travel insurance will pay.