HK PROTEST: 'Occupy' protests have opened Pandora's box

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HK PROTEST: 'Occupy' protests have opened Pandora’s box
Thomas Chan
China Daily

HONG KONG: -- Pandora’s Box has now been opened in Hong Kong. What has been released is a strong distrust of the SAR government as well as the central government — particularly among the younger generation — as well as much upheaval in society.

The “Occupy Central” movement and radical student political activities in recent months have led to considerable social and political divisions in Hong Kong. One cannot deny the possibility of political interference and manipulation by US intelligence agencies to destabilise Hong Kong. This is in order to stop China’s spectacular economic and global rise. There is clearly evidence of involvement by US officials.

Another concern is the failure of the police in Hong Kong last Sunday to arrest protesters in areas near the government headquarters — particularly those people directing the strategy and tactics of the core group of protesters. This allowed the protesters to re-group after the police had used tear gas and to encourage more people to join the demonstrations. The protests then spread to Admiralty, Wan Chai, Causeway Bay and even to Mong Kok in Kowloon.

“Occupy Central” has become a campaign aimed at paralysing Hong Kong’s major urban centres.

Surprisingly, the size of the protests is smaller than expected. At most, there have been no more than 60,000 people protesting — as claimed by the demonstrators themselves. Hong Kong is still maintaining law and order except for a few areas where the protesters are prevalent.

Transport has been seriously affected in some places, but there has not been mass of people coming out to challenge the government and police which the organisers of “Occupy Central” had hoped for. The police need to implement their tactics astutely and control the area around government headquarters. This will then force the protesters to test the patience of ordinary citizens, whose lives are being disrupted. Police should also arrest organisers of the protests for their role in illegal activities and aggressive confrontations with the police. These arrests will deprive the demonstrators of their leaders while forcing more people to be accountable before the law.

In the next couple of days, Hong Kong’s authorities may suffer a loss of trust and credibility in the eyes of the public. But the government must never yield to the unreasonable political demands of the protesters. These include calls for the resignation of the Chief Executive and senior officials and the rescinding of the decision of the Standing Committee of the National People Congress (NPCSC). The government should not even hold a meeting with the protesters to give them any legitimacy. The outcome of the protests will ultimately depend on the patience of ordinary citizens and how long they will tolerate such disruption.

The protesters have not achieved their real aim of regime change in Hong Kong. They know very well this would never be allowed by the central government. They might use their confrontations with police as a way to get more sympathy from the citizens and to encourage greater participation from naive young people. As the government has ignored their demands and the police have exercised considerable restraint then what is the point of occupying parts of the city and disrupting public transport? How long can they continue with such tactics? In a few days the protests will surely have to stop.

In the long term, and this is probably what the demonstrators and those behind them really want, the protest movement may encourage more opposition towards the SAR government. This will be most evident in schools and universities. Some sections of society seem to give in too easily to anti-government activists. Many of these people include teachers and academics. They may encourage further protests from the younger generation against the SAR and central governments. Anti-central government and anti-mainland sentiment might spread further to areas such as education, culture, politics and social work.

Many frustrated young people wrongly believe the government is weak and can be defeated. So they will constantly try to obstruct government policies. They aim to cripple not just Hong Kong’s major business centres but its entire system of government.

These protests could ultimately make the city ungovernable. They will also stop it developing into a full democracy. The true motives of the protest leaders are clearly destructive. They are not concerned about the welfare of ordinary citizens and young people in Hong Kong. They are actually part of an international political struggle to defend the power of the US — the so-called bastion of world democracy — but in reality a country which protects the vested interests of a privileged few.

Source: http://www.asianewsnet.net/news-65275.html


-- ANN 2014-10-02

[Totster]

Wow, talk about pro China..

totster

[Costas2008]

Why does this situation remind me exactly of what was happening in BKK before?

But I doubt very much that the outcome will be the same.

But again all these people wanted so much to join China before.

Now it's about time to understand that what you hear is not the same as what you encounter.

I hope they get some satisfaction to their demands.

[Honkie]

China Daily is a propaganda machine for the Chinese Communist Party which nobody in the rest of the world would take seriously.

Would you believe what the North Korean Daily News tell you ?

[mikehock]

HK PROTEST: 'Occupy' protests have opened Pandoras box

Thomas Chan

China Daily

HONG KONG: -- Pandoras Box has now been opened in Hong Kong. What has been released is a strong distrust of the SAR government as well as the central government particularly among the younger generation as well as much upheaval in society.

The Occupy Central movement and radical student political activities in recent months have led to considerable social and political divisions in Hong Kong. One cannot deny the possibility of political interference and manipulation by US intelligence agencies to destabilise Hong Kong. This is in order to stop Chinas spectacular economic and global rise. There is clearly evidence of involvement by US officials.

Another concern is the failure of the police in Hong Kong last Sunday to arrest protesters in areas near the government headquarters particularly those people directing the strategy and tactics of the core group of protesters. This allowed the protesters to re-group after the police had used tear gas and to encourage more people to join the demonstrations. The protests then spread to Admiralty, Wan Chai, Causeway Bay and even to Mong Kok in Kowloon.

Occupy Central has become a campaign aimed at paralysing Hong Kongs major urban centres.

Surprisingly, the size of the protests is smaller than expected. At most, there have been no more than 60,000 people protesting as claimed by the demonstrators themselves. Hong Kong is still maintaining law and order except for a few areas where the protesters are prevalent.

Transport has been seriously affected in some places, but there has not been mass of people coming out to challenge the government and police which the organisers of Occupy Central had hoped for. The police need to implement their tactics astutely and control the area around government headquarters. This will then force the protesters to test the patience of ordinary citizens, whose lives are being disrupted. Police should also arrest organisers of the protests for their role in illegal activities and aggressive confrontations with the police. These arrests will deprive the demonstrators of their leaders while forcing more people to be accountable before the law.

In the next couple of days, Hong Kongs authorities may suffer a loss of trust and credibility in the eyes of the public. But the government must never yield to the unreasonable political demands of the protesters. These include calls for the resignation of the Chief Executive and senior officials and the rescinding of the decision of the Standing Committee of the National People Congress (NPCSC). The government should not even hold a meeting with the protesters to give them any legitimacy. The outcome of the protests will ultimately depend on the patience of ordinary citizens and how long they will tolerate such disruption.

The protesters have not achieved their real aim of regime change in Hong Kong. They know very well this would never be allowed by the central government. They might use their confrontations with police as a way to get more sympathy from the citizens and to encourage greater participation from naive young people. As the government has ignored their demands and the police have exercised considerable restraint then what is the point of occupying parts of the city and disrupting public transport? How long can they continue with such tactics? In a few days the protests will surely have to stop.

In the long term, and this is probably what the demonstrators and those behind them really want, the protest movement may encourage more opposition towards the SAR government. This will be most evident in schools and universities. Some sections of society seem to give in too easily to anti-government activists. Many of these people include teachers and academics. They may encourage further protests from the younger generation against the SAR and central governments. Anti-central government and anti-mainland sentiment might spread further to areas such as education, culture, politics and social work.

Many frustrated young people wrongly believe the government is weak and can be defeated. So they will constantly try to obstruct government policies. They aim to cripple not just Hong Kongs major business centres but its entire system of government.

These protests could ultimately make the city ungovernable. They will also stop it developing into a full democracy. The true motives of the protest leaders are clearly destructive. They are not concerned about the welfare of ordinary citizens and young people in Hong Kong. They are actually part of an international political struggle to defend the power of the US the so-called bastion of world democracy but in reality a country which protects the vested interests of a privileged few.

Source: http://www.asianewsnet.net/news-65275.html

-- ANN 2014-10-02

These protests could ultimately make the city ungovernable. They will also stop it developing into a full democracy.

This strongly anti US rhetoric makes no sense .How do protesters asking for democracy stop HK or China for that matter developng into a full democracy?

[arjunadawn]

Why does this situation remind me exactly of what was happening in BKK before?

Sorry for the detail; I just want people to know whats going on (as many of us see it)

I think it reminds us of BKK because some of the same fingerprints are on it. If one looked at Eqypt, Tunisia, Ukraine, the Balkans, Lybia, Ukraine the 1st time, BKK, other "Arab Spring" countries, etc- all the "color revolutions" lately, the same provcatours can be found. It does not mean here or there legitimate issues exist, only it is a soft policy of the US to operate directly through the State depart developing agitators, and money funneled through Tides Foundation subordinates to motivate people in prusuit of US policies. Mostly, they may not even be aware of this, only that they are getting aid.

Some telltale signs of the "Color" manipulation are always similar- catchy short phrase, "occupy..." often a logo of choice, frequently a fist or another social meme like a flower, a peace sign, etc. These are heavily marketing uprisings. The only two recent "revolutions" of grassroots conscience I have noted are last Egypt and last Thailand; both of these actions directly repudiated the foriegn meddling of the earlier protests. What is happening in HKG is undoubtely long developed.

While writing this I skipped to search for a link or two that would report what I suggest and came immediately across this (I have read this site before).

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/

In the most unholy development a free nation can ever have the US has come to itemize, consolidate, package, and market its brand of government under the guise of social uprising. The US has become adept at this process and all nations are weary of it. It is not uncommon knowledge any longer.

http://www.storyleak.com/ukraine-cia-eu-collude-execute-another-color-revolution/

strategic penetration

https://www.opendemocracy.net/globalization-institutions_government/colour_revolutions_3196.jsp

US ‘world leader’ in color revolution engineering

http://rt.com/news/color-revolutions-technology-piskorsky-938/

Russia Points To 'Color Revolutions' As Aggressive Warfare At Moscow Security Conference

http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2014/06/russia-points-color-revolutions-aggressive-warfare-moscow-security-conference

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-27/riot-not-ferguson-it-hong-kong

I am confident following a lot of the money leads to this man; he has manipulated, IAW US policy, nearly every color revolution lately.

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/1208805/interview-george-soros

[jobin]

Utter nonsense from the champion of bullshite, the China Daily. If you believe anything printed in that rag, you have been brainwashed.

[mikiea]

"all these people wanted to join china before?" you need to read up on asian history, not the china daily rag but true history. best you not post too much, relax, read a book, pick your nose. :-)

[ParadiseLost]

If mainland China decides to remove the 'special status' currently afforded to HK, what could stop them? International pressure? They don't really give a damn.

This could backfire very badly for those trying to influence change.

[kleelof]

Wow, talk about pro China..

totster

Wish I could have liked this more than once.

I like how the first thing they did is blame the U.S.. Then downplay the rest. Nice journalism.

[Scott]

I lived in HK after the announcement that it would be returned to China. I don't remember meeting anyone -- not one person -- who was happy about that decision. I did mean literally hundreds of people who were going to great extent and great expense to secure a second passport, since the people of Hong Kong mostly did not have the right to abode in the UK.

Businessmen sent their wives and children to places like Canada to get citizenship so they could sponsor the husband. The husband remained in HK to make money. Canada and Australia were big destinations; the US was less so because of the tax laws.

Democracy and democratic traditions run very strong in HK and very much doubt there will be money spent by the US. If it tried, you can be assured that China would know all about it. HK is a very wealthy place and when people have wealth they want power, at least power over their own lives.

[JockPieandBeans]

Why does this situation remind me exactly of what was happening in BKK before?

But I doubt very much that the outcome will be the same.

But again all these people wanted so much to join China before.

Now it's about time to understand that what you hear is not the same as what you encounter.

I hope they get some satisfaction to their demands.

Costas

It was nothing to do with the people wanting to rejoin China.

The UK had Hong Kong on a 100 year lease from China. That lease expired in 1997 and Hong Kong was returned to China.

I was there during the handover. The general consensus back then was that eventually there would be problems.

Although it did not make any difference because the lease was up. China gave assurances that Hong Kong would be allowed to continue operating under the democratic rule that it was operating under at the time.

Most people at the time expressed reservations and were pretty certain that China would start exerting pressure to bring it back under Communist rule.

Guess they were correct back in 97.

Chris Patton was Governor of Hong Kong at the time of handover.

Hope this helps.

[primapagina]

I am not sure why this article was posted here, as clearly has not much to do with news and journalism.

Anyway, Al Jazeera, which is not US propaganda, just wrote a few hours ago:

"The week-long street protests by thousands of demonstrators pressing for electoral reforms in Hong Kong are the biggest challenge to Beijing's authority since China took control of the former British colony in 1997."

And if you know what is about (the proposal to abolish democratic election, the way I see it) I guess you understand the reasons of the protest. And if you are democratic, probably you sympathize with it!

[KhnomKhnom]

Beware of reprinting propaganda and especially opening the way for this venue to be highjacked and taken over by the Red Chinese who are paid to search the Net and put on positive spin statements. Keep these cockroaches out of thaivisa if possible.

The 50 Cent Party are Internet paid liars *Foreign script removed* also called wumao.

Edited October 4, 2014 by Scott
Foreign languge edited out

[Publicus]

This police shield looks like two bunches of bananas tied together into one complete bunch of bananas.

The broad and vague (at best vague) statement the United States is involved in the protests needs specifics or otherwise it's just propaganda from a propaganda organ of the CCP. To the CCP, journalism is propaganda and propaganda is journalism. The CCP practices the Communist Theory of the Press/Media contrasted to the U.S. and the West which practice the Social Responsibility Theory of the Press/Media.

(The Authoritarian Theory of the Press is the dominant theory of the press both historically and geographically, the Libertarian Theory being the other, used primarily in the West during 19th century and into the pre WWII 20th century.)

The CCP has been systematically reducing HKG as its financial center in favor of Shanghai, so why would Washington try to lend an assist to the CCP in this regard. Shanghai still needs another 30,000 experts in global (and national) finance to even begin to develop Shanghai as a global center of finance. The CCP continues to be unable to produce the 30,000 requisite experts so the effort continues to falter.

The Orwellian CCP Boyz in Beijing see the protests and demonstrations in HKG for universal suffrage as being against democracy and in fact anti-democracy, destructive of it. This view not only is wrong, it is inherently stupid.

The fact is that the CCP Boyz in Beijing know the government of Hong Kong has lost control of the city.

The CCP's attempts to reduce the significance and impact of the 60,000 Hong Kongers in control of the central and other vital areas of the city is pathetic. The strategically organized and deployed 60,000 have overwhelmed the HKG PD and its 30,000 officers and have driven them in to retreat. (The UK government has called in the UK corporation that as it turns out has sold HK$ 2 million of tear gas to the CCP municipal government, believing the CCP should supply its own implements of repression.)

The CCP China Daily Rag says, "Many frustrated young people wrongly believe the government is weak and can be defeated." Until the past weekend it was mostly young people and a class of adults who believed this. Now the whole of Hong Kong is looking at the fact and the reality of it, not to mention the world at large.

The CCP Boyz realize they cannot pull off another Tianamen Square massacre of its youth to this time include an entire class of HKG adults of all ages and walks of life. It was later revealed in the leaked Tianamen Papers that the CCP's decision in June 1989 to send the tanks and People's Liberation Army into Tianamen came only after the mayor of Beijing had urgently reported to the Politburo that insurrection was imminent throughout all of Beijing. The CCP's choice then was self-survival, which is not the choice it presently faces in HKG,

The general population of HKG are beginning to take a second look at what is developing, so let's see what happens next in HKG. The Boyz know they can't get away with another 1989 Tiananmen in Hong Kong in 2014.

[Johpa]

I don't know about opening any "Pandora's Box", but this government propaganda piece suggests that Beijing is ready to open up a new generation of re-education camps.

[Publicus]

Beware of reprinting propaganda and especially opening the way for this venue to be highjacked and taken over by the Red Chinese who are paid to search the Net and put on positive spin statements. Keep these cockroaches out of thaivisa if possible.

The 50 Cent Party are Internet paid liars also called wumao.

Bring 'em on.

As I'm certain from your post you well know, the half-yuans are fluent in English, highly drilled and paid, so they all do the same things, which are primarily to try to turn the tables to focus on how awful democracy is, how hypocritical democracy is - with lots of their perceived specifics - and how people in democracies don't know nuthin, about the PRC especially and in particular but don't know nuthin anyway.

The two party system or the multi-party system of parliamentary systems is no different from the CCP's single party state and all of that.

They say stupid things like people in democracies have to get a permit to demonstrate - as if that justifies Tiananmen massacres by the CCP - and that CCP censorship is necessary to manage the billion plus PRChinese (sheeple). One could go on but you'd very well know this even if others might need to hear it.

The half-yuans might try to slip in at TVF because while ThaiVisa Forums are blocked throughout the PRC, TFVs are fully available in HKG, Taiwan, Macau. Mainland PRChinese know nothing about the past couple of years in Thailand while people in HKG and on Taiwan, despite their own intense issues, know a lot about Thailand's own particular brand of 21st century fascism.

I anyway haven't seen any CCP internet cyber troopers at these threads. Rather disappointing actually .

[daveAustin]

'The protesters have not achieved their real aim of regime change in HK'?

What regime change, democracy for all of China? They want nothing of the sort other than what was promised for HK, to vote for the people of their choice. The whole piece is a croc of S churned out by a monkey for its master.

Gawd help that place if and when the people decide to galvanize and affect change. Even 1% on the streets would be 13m!!

[Chicog]

Ultimately the Chinese will stamp all over this.

They won't want a "Chinese Spring".

[jayjayjayjay]

Thomas Chan, opinionated to a tee! Who ass have you been licking! You are not on the side of Democracy or free rule by the people. Why not just ho and live in Shezen or GuangZhou the shitholes they are!!!

[GertrudeL]

Those assh@les spoiled my trip... puppet generation! They have no own ideas because they never read books, history... they spend 99% of their time in FB and they say what they were told... They could only destroy as it's the simplest thing to do. Can anyone from protesters tell what HE/SHE in particular did good for HIS/HER country, people... NOTHING

[booky]

I'm in Beijing and been watching news without much understanding so read the lead article with interest until the last couple of lines blew the lid. Thanks for the several replies that explained a bit of the history. Sort of true about TVF not being available. I use a vpn and am 'currently' in Romania! is the only way I can get my g mail and hence TV

[spidermike007]

I lived in HK after the announcement that it would be returned to China. I don't remember meeting anyone -- not one person -- who was happy about that decision. I did mean literally hundreds of people who were going to great extent and great expense to secure a second passport, since the people of Hong Kong mostly did not have the right to abode in the UK.

Businessmen sent their wives and children to places like Canada to get citizenship so they could sponsor the husband. The husband remained in HK to make money. Canada and Australia were big destinations; the US was less so because of the tax laws.

Democracy and democratic traditions run very strong in HK and very much doubt there will be money spent by the US. If it tried, you can be assured that China would know all about it. HK is a very wealthy place and when people have wealth they want power, at least power over their own lives.

Who in their right mind would be happy about being controlled by one of the most heinous governments on the planet? All the Hong Kong people are doing now is expressing their dissatisfaction and frustration at being controlled by a group of Politburo billionaire power mongering pigs, who want to deny them their right to expression, their right to a free press, and their right to individual freedoms. Who would not hate that?

[Pakboong]

, "A year ago, Ben-Ali and Gaddafi were not in power. Assad won't be in power this time next year. This Arab Spring is a virus that will attack Moscow and Beijing." McCain then walked off the stage.

Senator John McCain in Halifax in 2011

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2011/11/the-arab-spring-a-virus-that-will-attack-moscow-and-beijing/248762/

[mikiea]

well gertie, if thats your real name. how much are you being paid to insult people that want to remain free. these "puppets are smart and they have something to loose. you.....? well,you have lost it all already :-) there was no vacation, you are sitting in a crowded room in bejing banging away on a stained keyboard being paid per post. what a pair of loosers you & china are :-):-

[Soutpeel]

Why does this situation remind me exactly of what was happening in BKK before?

But I doubt very much that the outcome will be the same.

But again all these people wanted so much to join China before.

Now it's about time to understand that what you hear is not the same as what you encounter.

I hope they get some satisfaction to their demands.

Costas

It was nothing to do with the people wanting to rejoin China.

The UK had Hong Kong on a 100 year lease from China. That lease expired in 1997 and Hong Kong was returned to China.

I was there during the handover. The general consensus back then was that eventually there would be problems.

Although it did not make any difference because the lease was up. China gave assurances that Hong Kong would be allowed to continue operating under the democratic rule that it was operating under at the time.

Most people at the time expressed reservations and were pretty certain that China would start exerting pressure to bring it back under Communist rule.

Guess they were correct back in 97.

Chris Patton was Governor of Hong Kong at the time of handover.

Hope this helps.

I was in an out of HK all the time during this period, and yes the 100 year lease, but the vast majority of HK citizens believed Britain sold them and HK out

certainly in the time I was there never met anyone who wanted HK to go back to China

if I remember the numbers correctly only 50,000 where granted right of abode in the UK, even though every HK citizen was a British "citizen" ie they held British territorial passports.

China only gave assurances about operating under democratic rule for a period of 50 years.

[Chicog]

I was in an out of HK all the time during this period, and yes the 100 year lease, but the vast majority of HK citizens believed Britain sold them and HK out

certainly in the time I was there never met anyone who wanted HK to go back to China

Yes, well unfortunately short of invading it there wasn't very much we could do apart from give it back when the lease ended, was there?

What were we supposed to do? Claim squatters rights?

They could have gone to the ICJ but I doubt they would have come down on the UK's side.

[Publicus]

There is movement occurring In HKG between the government and the protesters, negotiations that have begun, so this is an encouraging development.

Just before midnight, the deadline the protesters set for HKG CEO C.Y. Leung to quit, Leung held an unscheduled press conference. Leung announced his appointing of a three member ad hoc committee to negotiate with protest leaders to include student leaders. The three member committee is headed by the director of Leung's office.

The protesters in turn issued a revised statement altering their demand Leung quit by midnight. The new statement from the Umbrella Revolution is that Leung's days are numbered unless he and Beijing compromise.

The HKG Apple Daily live continuous streaming broadcast of the Occupy Central Umbrella Revolution currently shows a bunch of CCP crotchety loud old men shouting at protesters and trying unsuccessfully to pick a fight.

佔中現場 Occupy Central Live Broadcast

蘋果動新聞 HK Apple Daily

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQsnR9vlu-w

佔中現場 Occupy Central Live Broadcast

Demonstrators outside Hong Kong government headquarters on September 28th.

Photo credit: AP Photo/Apple Daily

Mass Gathering in Taiwan to Support Hong Kong

Ten thousand people gather in front of Liberty Square in Taipei, Taiwan to show support for Hong Kong pro-democracy rallies on Oct. 1, 2014. Thousands of pro-democracy supporters continue to occupy the streets surrounding Hong Kong’s Financial district. (Ashley Pon/Getty Images)

The Taipei demonstrators are mostly of the Sunflower Revolution movement that earlier this year occupied parliament to stop an agreement with Beijing. The Sunflower Revolution marked the end of acceptance by the pro-Beijing Guomindang government of Ma Ying-Jeou and the "one country, two systems" outright lie. The Sunflower movement demands one country, one system on Taiwan, calling itself in Cold War terms West Germany and Hong Kong West Berlin.

British colonial flags waved by pro-democracy demonstrators in 2013 at the

yearly democracy protest march that occurs annually on July 1st in Hong Kong.

Photo credit: Reuters

Waving the British colonial flag in HKG is the equivalent to the CCP Boyz in Beijing of saying your mother is a whore - it absolutely incenses and infuriates them beyond description.

The 17 year old Joshua Wong, founder of the HKG pro-democracy Scholarism movement was in Taipei during the Sunflower Revolution protests of last April and May.

Special Report: China confronts limits of its power

Photo: 17 year-old student protest leader Joshua Wong speaks to fellow students on the street outside the Hong Kong Government Complex on October 1, 2014 in Hong Kong

SKINNY 17-YEAR-OLD

At the forefront of this challenge is student leader Joshua Wong Chi-fung, a skinny 17-year-old with a mop of straight black hair framing his angular face.

Last Friday, after a week-long student boycott of classes, Wong was demonstrating with hundreds of secondary school students outside the Hong Kong government’s harbor-front offices. It was 10 p.m. and some of the students were beginning to drift off when Wong picked up the microphone.

“Please everybody, don’t go just yet,” he pleaded in his crisp, staccato Cantonese through the shrill feedback of the speaker. “Please give me some face and listen before leaving,” he joked. “Ok!” the students yelled back.

As Wong spoke, fellow student leaders Alex Chow and Lester Shum, followed by their colleagues, suddenly rushed the three-meter fence and gate protecting the government offices, shouting: “Charge, charge.”

Police arrested Wong immediately and took Chow and Shum into custody the next day. But legal limits on the power of the authorities soon frustrated their efforts to take the student leaders out of circulation.

In the High Court on Sunday evening, Justice Patrick Li Hon-leung ordered Wong’s immediate release, granting a writ of habeas corpus, one of the British-implemented protections that Hong Kong inherited from its former colonial master. Wong would have no such protection on the mainland where an equivalent right doesn’t exist and where protest leaders are often beaten and routinely detained for long periods without trial.

Flanked by his lawyers, Wong pushed his right hand forward waist-high and flashed a defiant thumbs up as he walked free. His detention had provided the spark that galvanized the city’s pro-democracy movement and kick-started Occupy Central, a long-mooted plan to lock down the commercial heart of China’s most important financial center.

Photo: Iconic picture of the still anonymous 'tank man' from the student led protests in Beijing on June 4, 1989

http://tenplay.com.au/news/national/latest-news/latest-news/china-limits-of-power

The CCP Boyz in Beijing recognize and realize that the 1989 Tiananmen Massacre of unarmed students is not transferable to Hong Kong in 2014. The Boyz in Beijing are now finding themselves on the ropes.

Edited by Publicus for links.

Edited October 3, 2014 by Publicus

[Publicus]

The mainland PRChina has more corpus than it has habeas. The CCP Boyz in Beijing give an entirely new meaning to the legal term "produce the body/person." It instead means find the person, produce him to a CCP court and lock him away.

Mainland Supporters Arrested

At least 20 people have been detained by police in different cities in mainland China over the past two days for online posts expressing support for Hong Kong protesters, or for planning to travel to Hong Kong to join the movement, according to Amnesty International on Wednesday. Another 60 people have been summoned by police for supportive online comments.

So every little bit in Hong Kong helps there....

More Celebrities Show Support for the Movement

More and more Hong Kong and Taiwanese celebrities—among them Chow Yun-Fat, Andy Lau, Anthony Wong, and Nick Cheung—have publicly stated their support for Hong Kong protesters over the past two days, with some joining the protest.

Award-winning Hong Kong actor Nick Cheung appeared in central Hong Kong in black shirt on Tuesday, appealing for no more violent suppression of the peaceful students, and he urged the government to respond the people’s requests.

雨傘革命現場 Umbrella Revolution Live Broadcast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQsnR9vlu-w

Edited October 3, 2014 by Publicus

[Soutpeel]

I was in an out of HK all the time during this period, and yes the 100 year lease, but the vast majority of HK citizens believed Britain sold them and HK out

certainly in the time I was there never met anyone who wanted HK to go back to China

Yes, well unfortunately short of invading it there wasn't very much we could do apart from give it back when the lease ended, was there?

What were we supposed to do? Claim squatters rights?

They could have gone to the ICJ but I doubt they would have come down on the UK's side.

Not disagreeing with you, just giving you the perceptions people had at the time certainly the ones I talked to