webfact Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Amnuay favoured to be new DSI chiefThe NationBANGKOK: -- FOUR CANDIDATES are emerging for the influential job as head of the Department of Special Investigation after DSI chief Pol General Chatchawal Suksomjit was promoted to permanent secretary of the Justice Ministry.Three candidates are former police serving at the ministry - deputy permanent secretary Pol Colonel Dussadee Arayawuth, inspector-general Pol Colonel Suchart Wongchai-anant, Department for Rights and Liberties Protection chief Pol Colonel Narat Sawetanan. The fourth candidate, acting head of Provincial Police Region 1 Maj-General Amnuay Nimmano, is the only officer on active duty.Amnuay is reportedly the strongest candidate, as he has close ties to senior members of the National Council for Peace and Order. He was instrumental in arranging the arrest of anti-coup protesters and successfully deterring many anti-coup rallies. He was a deputy Metropolitan Police Bureau chief in the Yingluck Shinawatra government, but was later transferred to be a deputy Police Education Bureau commander, considered a less significant post, after he was seen as being unfriendly to the previous government.The Provincial Police Region 1 commander's post holds a rank of police lieutenant-general, which will be ceremonially granted to him. Police sources said it was very likely that once Amnuay is promoted to the upper rank, he would be made the new DSI director-general.Chatchawal has been named the new Justice permanent secretary partly because of his ties with Army commander and Deputy Defence Minister General Udomdej Sitabutr, who was a military classmate. He has also reportedly backed by Justice Minister General Paiboon Koomchaya.Narat is reportedly the second-strongest candidate. He is a former deputy DSI chief and helped found the agency in 2002. He has known ties to the Pheu Thai Party, but is also married to Nuanpan Lamsam, currently the manager of the Thai women's soccer team and formerly an adviser to deputy Democrat Party leader Apirak Kosayodhin.Meanwhile, noted forensic scientist Porntip Rojanasunan posted a message on Facebook complaining about "an outsider being granted the top job".The director of the Central Institute of Forensic Science also said: "There is no hope left after the coup."Paiboon yesterday defended his decision to make Chatchawal the new permanent secretary, saying that Chatchawal would be working with him, and his appointment had no link with politics after the coup.Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Amnuay-favoured-to-be-new-DSI-chief-30244668.html-- The Nation 2014-10-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Robby nz Posted October 2, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2014 Herein lies the problem, the whole gang of them are tainted by politics. Whoever is chosen there will be someone who has a gripe about it. Where does ability come into the equation ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricBerg Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) I hope the new guy will not be referred to as the new Tarit/Chalerm... Oops. The police investigation on KT isn't doing the RTP image much good. So there's much much work to be done. DSI might make the functioning of police the main priority. Edited October 3, 2014 by EricBerg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Herein lies the problem, the whole gang of them are tainted by politics. Whoever is chosen there will be someone who has a gripe about it. Where does ability come into the equation ? As with so many posts ability isn't necessarily a prerequisite is it ? On this occasion " close ties to senior members of the NCPO " says it all and means he is eminently suitable for the job.. Somethings will never change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smutcakes Posted October 3, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2014 Herein lies the problem, the whole gang of them are tainted by politics. Whoever is chosen there will be someone who has a gripe about it. Where does ability come into the equation ? Herein lies the problem with the whole coup, which people have been saying from day one. All they are doing is replacing someone else's people with their own people. Most people could see this would happen- which is the main reason i was/am anti coup. It is supposed to be about reform, but all they do is just replace one sides incompetent corrupt idiots with their own. We are going around the whole circle again and again and again! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I hope the new guy will not be referred to as the new Tarit/Chalerm... Oops. The police investigation on KT isn't doing the RTP image much good. So there's much much work to be done. DSI might make the functioning of police the main priority. Why would he, unless he turns out to be a corrupt drunken oaf or a lickspittle toady? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I hope the new guy will not be referred to as the new Tarit/Chalerm... Oops. The police investigation on KT isn't doing the RTP image much good. So there's much much work to be done. DSI might make the functioning of police the main priority. Why would he, unless he turns out to be a corrupt drunken oaf or a lickspittle toady? Of course he will be a lickspittle toady, that is why the selection criteria is: "Amnuay is reportedly the strongest candidate, as he has close ties to senior members of the National Council for Peace and Order." The question is will you criticize it like you do the PTP and Tarit? Of course not, as you are also a lickspittle toady, and you are not even paid to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubl Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I hope the new guy will not be referred to as the new Tarit/Chalerm... Oops. The police investigation on KT isn't doing the RTP image much good. So there's much much work to be done. DSI might make the functioning of police the main priority. Why would he, unless he turns out to be a corrupt drunken oaf or a lickspittle toady? Of course he will be a lickspittle toady, that is why the selection criteria is: "Amnuay is reportedly the strongest candidate, as he has close ties to senior members of the National Council for Peace and Order." The question is will you criticize it like you do the PTP and Tarit? Of course not, as you are also a lickspittle toady, and you are not even paid to be. On the other hand with willful political influence in DSI investigations in the past the NCPO may want a person who will not be influenced by politicians. Its like when Nattawut presented a list of people he (i.e. the UDD) would find unacceptable as appointed PM. Following the same train of thought, I can only come to the conclusion that we really have to ask the UN to take over Thailand, replace the complete government apparatus with their own people and safe Thailand from itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) I hope the new guy will not be referred to as the new Tarit/Chalerm... Oops. The police investigation on KT isn't doing the RTP image much good. So there's much much work to be done. DSI might make the functioning of police the main priority. Why would he, unless he turns out to be a corrupt drunken oaf or a lickspittle toady? Of course he will be a lickspittle toady, that is why the selection criteria is: "Amnuay is reportedly the strongest candidate, as he has close ties to senior members of the National Council for Peace and Order." The question is will you criticize it like you do the PTP and Tarit? Of course not, as you are also a lickspittle toady, and you are not even paid to be. Why would I not criticize that which deserves it, to satisfy your labelling? Should i start now, before he is appointed? But I don't recall much criticism from you of Tharit's more fatuous decisions, or of the party which appointed scum like Chalerm to positions of authority. Edited October 3, 2014 by halloween Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I hope the new guy will not be referred to as the new Tarit/Chalerm... Oops. The police investigation on KT isn't doing the RTP image much good. So there's much much work to be done. DSI might make the functioning of police the main priority. Why would he, unless he turns out to be a corrupt drunken oaf or a lickspittle toady? Of course he will be a lickspittle toady, that is why the selection criteria is: "Amnuay is reportedly the strongest candidate, as he has close ties to senior members of the National Council for Peace and Order." The question is will you criticize it like you do the PTP and Tarit? Of course not, as you are also a lickspittle toady, and you are not even paid to be. On the other hand with willful political influence in DSI investigations in the past the NCPO may want a person who will not be influenced by politicians. Its like when Nattawut presented a list of people he (i.e. the UDD) would find unacceptable as appointed PM. Following the same train of thought, I can only come to the conclusion that we really have to ask the UN to take over Thailand, replace the complete government apparatus with their own people and safe Thailand from itself. Not bad Rubl, 8th post and you are trying to drag the topic of course. Your post is complete none sense btw, but you know that. Political influence in the past, of course, NCPO influence now, whats the difference? Nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I hope the new guy will not be referred to as the new Tarit/Chalerm... Oops. The police investigation on KT isn't doing the RTP image much good. So there's much much work to be done. DSI might make the functioning of police the main priority. Why would he, unless he turns out to be a corrupt drunken oaf or a lickspittle toady? Of course he will be a lickspittle toady, that is why the selection criteria is: "Amnuay is reportedly the strongest candidate, as he has close ties to senior members of the National Council for Peace and Order." The question is will you criticize it like you do the PTP and Tarit? Of course not, as you are also a lickspittle toady, and you are not even paid to be. Why would I not criticize that which deserves it, to satisfy your labelling? Should i start now, before he is appointed? But I don't recall much criticism from you of Tharit's more fatuous decisions, or of the party which appointed scum like Chalerm to positions of authority. I did criticize from time to time. I am well aware how bad they were. I critize now because the Junta came in on the back of promises of reform etc etc which i knew was complete BS. You may as well have an elected crap, corrupt Govt, than throwing them out and replacing them with a military one of the same. It just increases divisions in society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) I hope the new guy will not be referred to as the new Tarit/Chalerm... Oops. The police investigation on KT isn't doing the RTP image much good. So there's much much work to be done. DSI might make the functioning of police the main priority. Why would he, unless he turns out to be a corrupt drunken oaf or a lickspittle toady? Of course he will be a lickspittle toady, that is why the selection criteria is: "Amnuay is reportedly the strongest candidate, as he has close ties to senior members of the National Council for Peace and Order." The question is will you criticize it like you do the PTP and Tarit? Of course not, as you are also a lickspittle toady, and you are not even paid to be. Depends on their performance isn't it? IMO it will be difficult to perform worse than Tarit did. To put it mildly..... Or are you saying that he did a good job and should have kept his position? Edited October 3, 2014 by Nickymaster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I hope the new guy will not be referred to as the new Tarit/Chalerm... Oops. The police investigation on KT isn't doing the RTP image much good. So there's much much work to be done. DSI might make the functioning of police the main priority. Why would he, unless he turns out to be a corrupt drunken oaf or a lickspittle toady? Of course he will be a lickspittle toady, that is why the selection criteria is: "Amnuay is reportedly the strongest candidate, as he has close ties to senior members of the National Council for Peace and Order." The question is will you criticize it like you do the PTP and Tarit? Of course not, as you are also a lickspittle toady, and you are not even paid to be. Depends on their performance isn't it? IMO it will be difficult to perform worse than Tarit did. To put it mildly..... Are are you saying that he did a good job and should have kept his position? No he seemingly did not do a good job, although i am sure we are unaware of many things going on behind the scenes. I am sure Tarit was capable, but it was all very politicized which he himself has come out and said. He is just part of the whole messy system, two different Govts could of got rid of him, but neither did. Do you not agree that the selection criteria which is suggested in the article, in that he is close to the NCPO, does not bode well for the new guy being able to do his job independently, neutrally and without interference from people above him? Lets hope i am being overly cynical, but it does not look like much of a change of modus operandi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) Why would I not criticize that which deserves it, to satisfy your labelling? Should i start now, before he is appointed? But I don't recall much criticism from you of Tharit's more fatuous decisions, or of the party which appointed scum like Chalerm to positions of authority. I did criticize from time to time. I am well aware how bad they were. I critize now because the Junta came in on the back of promises of reform etc etc which i knew was complete BS. You may as well have an elected crap, corrupt Govt, than throwing them out and replacing them with a military one of the same. It just increases divisions in society. You did criticise, I must have missed it. it must be nice to "know" things before they happen, i have to wait until events unfold. But what i do know is that "divisions in society" are no longer leading to deaths and intimidation, that a little honest police work is turning up ineptitude and theft on a grand scale by the last government, and their mercenary murderers are being caught. Much of that division in society was caused by Thaksin's propagandists. Revealing that they lied will heal much of it. Removing the expectation of high income from low economic productivity will take longer. Edited October 3, 2014 by halloween 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Why would I not criticize that which deserves it, to satisfy your labelling? Should i start now, before he is appointed? But I don't recall much criticism from you of Tharit's more fatuous decisions, or of the party which appointed scum like Chalerm to positions of authority. I did criticize from time to time. I am well aware how bad they were. I critize now because the Junta came in on the back of promises of reform etc etc which i knew was complete BS. You may as well have an elected crap, corrupt Govt, than throwing them out and replacing them with a military one of the same. It just increases divisions in society. You did criticise, I must have missed it. it must be nice to "know" things before they happen, i have to wait until events unfold. But what i do know is that "divisions in society" are no longer leading to deaths and intimidation, that a little honest police work is turning up ineptitude and theft on a grand scale by the last government, and their mercenary murderers are being caught. Much of that division in society was caused by Thaksin's propagandists. Revealing that they lied will heal much of it. Removing the expectation of high income from low economic productivity will take longer. I am not surprised you missed it, as you have only been interested in talking about Thailand for a month. Unless of course you are a previous banned member who has rejoined under a new alias? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyBowskill Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 And here's me thinking "Amnuay" was a crappy pyramid scheme for selling toilet cleaner. You learn something new everyday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Herein lies the problem, the whole gang of them are tainted by politics. Whoever is chosen there will be someone who has a gripe about it. Where does ability come into the equation ? It doesn't in Thailand. You know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noitom Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 He is the favorite - he has "close ties." The single most important qualification in Thailand - close ties. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickirs Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 General Amnuay is obviously the best candidate from the prespective of NCPO as he falls under the NCPO chain of command - does he not? Thus, he will be easily controlled and not go "off the reservation" or "go native." NCPO does not need "independents" operating in government. Regarding Department for Rights and Liberties Protection chief Pol Colonel Narat Sawetanan - really? How can anyone morally and ethically continue to hold such a title in the face of a military coup, aborgation of the Constitution, and enactment of martial law? If he had resigned in conjunction with the military coup in protest of the violation of Thai people's rights and liberties I would have found him to have more credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Of course he will be a lickspittle toady, that is why the selection criteria is: "Amnuay is reportedly the strongest candidate, as he has close ties to senior members of the National Council for Peace and Order." The question is will you criticize it like you do the PTP and Tarit? Of course not, as you are also a lickspittle toady, and you are not even paid to be. Depends on their performance isn't it? IMO it will be difficult to perform worse than Tarit did. To put it mildly..... Are are you saying that he did a good job and should have kept his position? No he seemingly did not do a good job, although i am sure we are unaware of many things going on behind the scenes. I am sure Tarit was capable, but it was all very politicized which he himself has come out and said. He is just part of the whole messy system, two different Govts could of got rid of him, but neither did. Do you not agree that the selection criteria which is suggested in the article, in that he is close to the NCPO, does not bode well for the new guy being able to do his job independently, neutrally and without interference from people above him? Lets hope i am being overly cynical, but it does not look like much of a change of modus operandi. "Seemingly" More like evidently. Even singled out by the General who publicly joked about Tarit's propensity for threatening all and sundry with law suits, even if they were ridiculous and involved laws he tried to make up. Did he solve the luxury car import case. or any of the missing / murdered cases, or make any progress on them? He turned the DSI into nothing more than a tool for Thaksin, only interested in doing things that benefited the Shins. Then he became number 2 in the CAPO pantomime - which failed miserably in preventing attacks and murders of anti-Shin protesters, catching those responsible, or actually achieving anything; well apart from squandering a very large amount of money with "seemingly" no accounts. He was so busy he failed to notice some bad person build a resort on park land next to his even though a road, electricity and water supply had to cross his land too. He even "seemingly" didn't notice when it was all covertly demolished one night either. Prior to that he toadied up to the Abhisit administration when they were in power. You are "sure Tarit was capable". Of what exactly? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I hope the new guy will not be referred to as the new Tarit/Chalerm... Oops. The police investigation on KT isn't doing the RTP image much good. So there's much much work to be done. DSI might make the functioning of police the main priority. Why would he, unless he turns out to be a corrupt drunken oaf or a lickspittle toady? Of course he will be a lickspittle toady, that is why the selection criteria is: "Amnuay is reportedly the strongest candidate, as he has close ties to senior members of the National Council for Peace and Order." The question is will you criticize it like you do the PTP and Tarit? Of course not, as you are also a lickspittle toady, and you are not even paid to be. On the other hand with willful political influence in DSI investigations in the past the NCPO may want a person who will not be influenced by politicians. Its like when Nattawut presented a list of people he (i.e. the UDD) would find unacceptable as appointed PM. Following the same train of thought, I can only come to the conclusion that we really have to ask the UN to take over Thailand, replace the complete government apparatus with their own people and safe Thailand from itself. When will you accept that the NCPO is political and is the government? Ergo the new DSI Chief, if it turns out to be Amnuay, will be subject to political influence, albeit what some people on here, and the junta themselves, regard as the right type of political influence, i.e theirs - that is the whole idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Orchestrating people in the right positions for the next coup? If you are not batting for the right (wing) team you won't get a gurnsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayboy Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 I hope the new guy will not be referred to as the new Tarit/Chalerm... Oops. The police investigation on KT isn't doing the RTP image much good. So there's much much work to be done. DSI might make the functioning of police the main priority. Why would he, unless he turns out to be a corrupt drunken oaf or a lickspittle toady? Of course he will be a lickspittle toady, that is why the selection criteria is: "Amnuay is reportedly the strongest candidate, as he has close ties to senior members of the National Council for Peace and Order." The question is will you criticize it like you do the PTP and Tarit? Of course not, as you are also a lickspittle toady, and you are not even paid to be. On the other hand with willful political influence in DSI investigations in the past the NCPO may want a person who will not be influenced by politicians. Its like when Nattawut presented a list of people he (i.e. the UDD) would find unacceptable as appointed PM. Following the same train of thought, I can only come to the conclusion that we really have to ask the UN to take over Thailand, replace the complete government apparatus with their own people and safe Thailand from itself. Buyers remorse beginning to show? Frankly I don't see how one can snipe endlessly at democracy, however imperfect, and then be surprised when its opposite produces much worse results including cronyism - not just in this instance but almost everywhere.Difference from the democratically elected governments you hate so much is that these bums can't be voted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 No he seemingly did not do a good job, although i am sure we are unaware of many things going on behind the scenes. I am sure Tarit was capable, but it was all very politicized which he himself has come out and said. He is just part of the whole messy system, two different Govts could of got rid of him, but neither did. Do you not agree that the selection criteria which is suggested in the article, in that he is close to the NCPO, does not bode well for the new guy being able to do his job independently, neutrally and without interference from people above him? Lets hope i am being overly cynical, but it does not look like much of a change of modus operandi. "Seemingly" More like evidently. Even singled out by the General who publicly joked about Tarit's propensity for threatening all and sundry with law suits, even if they were ridiculous and involved laws he tried to make up. Did he solve the luxury car import case. or any of the missing / murdered cases, or make any progress on them? He turned the DSI into nothing more than a tool for Thaksin, only interested in doing things that benefited the Shins. Then he became number 2 in the CAPO pantomime - which failed miserably in preventing attacks and murders of anti-Shin protesters, catching those responsible, or actually achieving anything; well apart from squandering a very large amount of money with "seemingly" no accounts. He was so busy he failed to notice some bad person build a resort on park land next to his even though a road, electricity and water supply had to cross his land too. He even "seemingly" didn't notice when it was all covertly demolished one night either. Prior to that he toadied up to the Abhisit administration when they were in power. You are "sure Tarit was capable". Of what exactly? He had about as much success and competence as the NACC or the Election Commission. Just out of interest what money was squandered with no accounts? The rest of your post is just ranting non corroborated rumour which you have no evidence of. Why did the Democrats appoint him if he was so incapable? Surely that is gross negligence. Anyway i am not saying he did a good job, i was simply saying for someone to get to that position, you would expect given the will, if they wanted to they could do a capable job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) I hope the new guy will not be referred to as the new Tarit/Chalerm... Oops. The police investigation on KT isn't doing the RTP image much good. So there's much much work to be done. DSI might make the functioning of police the main priority. Why would he, unless he turns out to be a corrupt drunken oaf or a lickspittle toady? Of course he will be a lickspittle toady, that is why the selection criteria is: "Amnuay is reportedly the strongest candidate, as he has close ties to senior members of the National Council for Peace and Order." The question is will you criticize it like you do the PTP and Tarit? Of course not, as you are also a lickspittle toady, and you are not even paid to be. Depends on their performance isn't it? IMO it will be difficult to perform worse than Tarit did. To put it mildly..... Or are you saying that he did a good job and should have kept his position? Did you complain when Tharit carried out the biddings of the army when he reversed his findings on the type of weapon used to kill Muramoto ( http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/28/AR2011022801008.html )? Tharit bends in the wind. That's why Amnuay is being touted for head of DSI - he will do their bidding, he's already demonstrated that. Edited October 3, 2014 by fab4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nickymaster Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Why would he, unless he turns out to be a corrupt drunken oaf or a lickspittle toady? Of course he will be a lickspittle toady, that is why the selection criteria is: "Amnuay is reportedly the strongest candidate, as he has close ties to senior members of the National Council for Peace and Order." The question is will you criticize it like you do the PTP and Tarit? Of course not, as you are also a lickspittle toady, and you are not even paid to be. Depends on their performance isn't it? IMO it will be difficult to perform worse than Tarit did. To put it mildly..... Or are you saying that he did a good job and should have kept his position? Did you complain when Tharit carried out the biddings of the army when he reversed his findings on the type of weapon used to kill Muramoto ( http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/28/AR2011022801008.html )? Tharit bends in the wind. That's why Amnuay is being touted for head of DSI - he will do their bidding, he's already demonstrated that. Look at yourself first before you ask me if I complained. Because the only thing I said was: Depends on their performance isn't it? Did YOU complain when Tharit was Thaksin's and Chalerm's lapdog? Did YOU complain when Tharit and Chalerm's police force couldn't find (read didn't look for) the killers of anti government protestors? Guys that bombed innocent protestors including children trying to sell goods together with their parents at a market. Again, did YOU complain about the performance of Tharit? When Prayuth took over most killers where caught with a couple of weeks. Did you give him praise for that? I repeat: Depends on their performance isn't it? Let's wait and see if I am going to complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 Depends on their performance isn't it? IMO it will be difficult to perform worse than Tarit did. To put it mildly..... Or are you saying that he did a good job and should have kept his position? Did you complain when Tharit carried out the biddings of the army when he reversed his findings on the type of weapon used to kill Muramoto ( http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/28/AR2011022801008.html )? Tharit bends in the wind. That's why Amnuay is being touted for head of DSI - he will do their bidding, he's already demonstrated that. Look at yourself first before you ask me if I complained. Because the only thing I said was: Depends on their performance isn't it?Did YOU complain when Tharit was Thaksin's and Chalerm's lapdog? Did YOU complain when Tharit and Chalerm's police force couldn't find (read didn't look for) the killers of anti government protestors? Guys that bombed innocent protestors including children trying to sell goods together with their parents at a market. Again, did YOU complain about the performance of Tharit? When Prayuth took over most killers where caught with a couple of weeks. Did you give him praise for that? I repeat: Depends on their performance isn't it? Let's wait and see if I am going to complain. It's irrelevant if I complain or not about Tharit's flexibility, I'm not the one who touts the coup and the junta as the great white hope for Thailand and that this time it will be different, with no corruption, no nepotism, no puppets. Take a look at yourself would be more useful advice I would hazard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 It's irrelevant if I complain or not about Tharit's flexibility, I'm not the one who touts the coup and the junta as the great white hope for Thailand and that this time it will be different, with no corruption, no nepotism, no puppets. Take a look at yourself would be more useful advice I would hazard. I don't think anybody has ever touted the junta as perfect with "no corruption, no nepotism, no puppets." However, it has been quite obvious that there is considerably less than with the Yingluk government. How could there be more? And whether you like it or not, the change has been refreshing for a large percentage of the population (reportedly). Can we expect some faint praise, or more of the same carping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fab4 Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 It's irrelevant if I complain or not about Tharit's flexibility, I'm not the one who touts the coup and the junta as the great white hope for Thailand and that this time it will be different, with no corruption, no nepotism, no puppets. Take a look at yourself would be more useful advice I would hazard. I don't think anybody has ever touted the junta as perfect with "no corruption, no nepotism, no puppets." However, it has been quite obvious that there is considerably less than with the Yingluk government. How could there be more? And whether you like it or not, the change has been refreshing for a large percentage of the population (reportedly). Can we expect some faint praise, or more of the same carping? Why should I praise a military junta that has abrogated democracy in Thailand. Why should anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted October 3, 2014 Share Posted October 3, 2014 It's irrelevant if I complain or not about Tharit's flexibility, I'm not the one who touts the coup and the junta as the great white hope for Thailand and that this time it will be different, with no corruption, no nepotism, no puppets. Take a look at yourself would be more useful advice I would hazard. I don't think anybody has ever touted the junta as perfect with "no corruption, no nepotism, no puppets." However, it has been quite obvious that there is considerably less than with the Yingluk government. How could there be more? And whether you like it or not, the change has been refreshing for a large percentage of the population (reportedly). Can we expect some faint praise, or more of the same carping? Why should I praise a military junta that has abrogated democracy in Thailand. Why should anyone? Hmmm............less corruption, less nepotism, less puppets, less cronyism, less political violence, criminals being arrested, other criminals losing their parliamentary privilege, an end to a trillion baht money wasting scam, an end to a unelected criminal setting government policy and profiting from insider trading. And all for the cost of abrogating what passed for democracy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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