Alwyn Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Just when you think they can't get any more stupid.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyexile Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Been monitoring the change.org petition to force the British Foreign Office to intervene in the case. It is gaining signatures at a rate of 10 to 12 per minute, so this is going viral now. All these threats are doing is forcing the hand in another direction and will come back and bite them in the arse. I am posting the petition on my FB timeline every day. posting a link to a petition simply requesting Hannah and David's government do something positive to 'help' the Thai police is not a direct criticism of the said police. https://www.change.org/p/the-government-of-the-united-kingdom-independently-investigate-the-horrific-murders-of-hannah-witheridge-and-david-miller So please post on your facebook page and get this even more viral. Facebook will NOT give IP information to the Thai police. Yep, I`m at the same old house in Nakorn Nowhere, Soi Easy #1 and I had poached eggs just now. Pics of eggs and selfie of me and wifey outside house with new motorpsyche herewith. IP, hm. Facebook employee taken to safe house for consultation with police IT expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjules007 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) Just a few notes on the discrepancies for all you apologists and RTP sympathisers with incredibly selective memories. On day two they started to dna and question Myanmar workers what happened to these three boys in the last three weeks. After 4/5 days Sean Mcanna was chased by the headmans brother and an off duty policeman. And threathened Why? (the picture was on facebook and the brother admitted having a "word" with him) This same brother was pictured contaminating the crime scene day 1. who gave him permission? A Thai taxi driver was taken in and beaten up and told he had to implicate some Myanmar workers I doubt he made this up as he went to the authorities and press to complain about his treatment. the police reported some blond hair was recovered at the crime scene, they also reported one of the accused Myanmar boys had just dyed his hair black the day after the murders. but cctv showed the three boys on a motorbike the night of the murders all had black hair. the story of the phone should eventually be solved, but surely even these boys would not be naeive enough to leave the girls phone practically on their doorstep. Edited October 7, 2014 by bigjules007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceybonus Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Just a few notes on the discrepancies for all you apologists and RTP sympathisers with incredibly selective memories. On day two they started to dna and question Myanmar workers what happened to these three boys in the last three weeks. after 4/5 days sean mcanna was chased by the headmans brother and an off duty policeman. Why. (the picture was on facebook and the brother admitted having a "word" with him) this same brother was pictured contaminating the crime scene day 1. who gave him permission. a thai taxi driver was taken in and beaten up and told he had to implicate some Myanmar workers I doubt he made this up as he went to the authorities and press to complain about his treatment. the police reported some blond hair was recovered at the crime scene, they also reported one of the accused Myanmar boys had just dyed his hair black the day after the murders. but cctv showed the three boys on a motorbike the night of the murders all had black hair. the story of the phone should eventually be solved, but surely even these boys would not be naeive enough to leave the girls phone practically on their doorstep. More stuff filters through everyday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Been monitoring the change.org petition to force the British Foreign Office to intervene in the case. It is gaining signatures at a rate of 10 to 12 per minute, so this is going viral now. All these threats are doing is forcing the hand in another direction and will come back and bite them in the arse. I am posting the petition on my FB timeline every day. posting a link to a petition simply requesting Hannah and David's government do something positive to 'help' the Thai police is not a direct criticism of the said police. https://www.change.org/p/the-government-of-the-united-kingdom-independently-investigate-the-horrific-murders-of-hannah-witheridge-and-david-miller So please post on your facebook page and get this even more viral. Facebook will NOT give IP information to the Thai police. One sincerely hopes you didn't sign the petition "wackybacky" as I believe people want this petition to be taken seriously, they may think its all paranoid stoner's who are signing... BTW Facebook doesn't have to give IP addresses to the BiB, if they want to get someones an IP address off face book, a quick look at a you tube "instructional" video shows one how to do it in about 30 seconds, if someone is inclined to get someones IP address for any reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyexile Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/south-east-asia/story/3-myanmar-workers-say-police-tortured-them-info-over-murders-2-brito I think the Singapore authorities need to make a statement on the extent of the DNA testing! So many people/agencies being quiet! Singapore DNA testing a myth? See previous posts with that heading What is the name of the mystery Lab in Singapore?? Why are there no reports in Singapore press about it? What date were samples sent? What were the results.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) pretty sure they had the independent test at the start of the investigation, when first tested their DNA didnt match, only matched after they brought them in the second time Ah, the infallible DNA test. DNA is all but infallible. However human stupidity and the ability to mess up results alas is infinite Edited October 7, 2014 by Bluespunk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/south-east-asia/story/3-myanmar-workers-say-police-tortured-them-info-over-murders-2-brito I think the Singapore authorities need to make a statement on the extent of the DNA testing! So many people/agencies being quiet! doubt they know anything about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjules007 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Been monitoring the change.org petition to force the British Foreign Office to intervene in the case. It is gaining signatures at a rate of 10 to 12 per minute, so this is going viral now. All these threats are doing is forcing the hand in another direction and will come back and bite them in the arse. I am posting the petition on my FB timeline every day. posting a link to a petition simply requesting Hannah and David's government do something positive to 'help' the Thai police is not a direct criticism of the said police. https://www.change.org/p/the-government-of-the-united-kingdom-independently-investigate-the-horrific-murders-of-hannah-witheridge-and-david-miller So please post on your facebook page and get this even more viral. Facebook will NOT give IP information to the Thai police. One sincerely hopes you didn't sign the petition "wackybacky" as I believe people want this petition to be taken seriously, they may think its all paranoid stoner's who are signing... BTW Facebook doesn't have to give IP addresses to the BiB, if they want to get someones an IP address off face book, a quick look at a you tube "instructional" video shows one how to do it in about 30 seconds, if someone is inclined to get someones IP address for any reason. And that's exactly why I use an ip blocker, I suggest anybody else with views that go against " the establishment" do the same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expat Girl Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/south-east-asia/story/3-myanmar-workers-say-police-tortured-them-info-over-murders-2-brito I think the Singapore authorities need to make a statement on the extent of the DNA testing! So many people/agencies being quiet! Singapore DNA testing a myth? See previous posts with that heading What is the name of the mystery Lab in Singapore?? Why are there no reports in Singapore press about it? What date were samples sent? What were the results.? I just saw a tweet, via the BBC, from the press conference that is occurring in Koh Tao now, that 3 Thai universities were involved in the DNA Testing. A total of 243 people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceybonus Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I like a good motive to back things up too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceybonus Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 The best advice I can give if you are worried is to use onion routing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falangjim Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Been monitoring the change.org petition to force the British Foreign Office to intervene in the case. It is gaining signatures at a rate of 10 to 12 per minute, so this is going viral now. All these threats are doing is forcing the hand in another direction and will come back and bite them in the arse. I am posting the petition on my FB timeline every day. posting a link to a petition simply requesting Hannah and David's government do something positive to 'help' the Thai police is not a direct criticism of the said police. https://www.change.org/p/the-government-of-the-united-kingdom-independently-investigate-the-horrific-murders-of-hannah-witheridge-and-david-miller So please post on your facebook page and get this even more viral. Facebook will NOT give IP information to the Thai police. Are the directions only in Thai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParadiseLost Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Been monitoring the change.org petition to force the British Foreign Office to intervene in the case. It is gaining signatures at a rate of 10 to 12 per minute, so this is going viral now. All these threats are doing is forcing the hand in another direction and will come back and bite them in the arse. I am posting the petition on my FB timeline every day. posting a link to a petition simply requesting Hannah and David's government do something positive to 'help' the Thai police is not a direct criticism of the said police. https://www.change.org/p/the-government-of-the-united-kingdom-independently-investigate-the-horrific-murders-of-hannah-witheridge-and-david-miller So please post on your facebook page and get this even more viral. Facebook will NOT give IP information to the Thai police. One sincerely hopes you didn't sign the petition "wackybacky" as I believe people want this petition to be taken seriously, they may think its all paranoid stoner's who are signing... BTW Facebook doesn't have to give IP addresses to the BiB, if they want to get someones an IP address off face book, a quick look at a you tube "instructional" video shows one how to do it in about 30 seconds, if someone is inclined to get someones IP address for any reason. If these guys continue I propose a new TV setting: Automatically add new users to ignore list: Y/N 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyexile Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/south-east-asia/story/3-myanmar-workers-say-police-tortured-them-info-over-murders-2-brito I think the Singapore authorities need to make a statement on the extent of the DNA testing! So many people/agencies being quiet! Singapore DNA testing a myth? See previous posts with that heading What is the name of the mystery Lab in Singapore?? Why are there no reports in Singapore press about it? What date were samples sent? What were the results.? I just saw a tweet, via the BBC, from the press conference that is occurring in Koh Tao now, that 3 Thai universities were involved in the DNA Testing. A total of 243 people. That is reassuring. 243 Thai uni forensics experts doing the tests. Anyway the good general said he checked the results and the Burmese were the perps. If it`s good enough for the good general it`s good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expat Girl Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/south-east-asia/story/3-myanmar-workers-say-police-tortured-them-info-over-murders-2-brito I think the Singapore authorities need to make a statement on the extent of the DNA testing! So many people/agencies being quiet! Singapore DNA testing a myth? See previous posts with that heading What is the name of the mystery Lab in Singapore?? Why are there no reports in Singapore press about it? What date were samples sent? What were the results.? I just saw a tweet, via the BBC, from the press conference that is occurring in Koh Tao now, that 3 Thai universities were involved in the DNA Testing. A total of 243 people. That is reassuring. 243 Thai uni forensics experts doing the tests. Anyway the good general said he checked the results and the Burmese were the perps. If it`s good enough for the good general it`s good enough for me. No, 243 DNA samples were tested...187 foreign and 56 Thai... i detect a little sarcasm in your comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/south-east-asia/story/3-myanmar-workers-say-police-tortured-them-info-over-murders-2-brito I think the Singapore authorities need to make a statement on the extent of the DNA testing! So many people/agencies being quiet! Please stop with the paranoid comments... If the company testing this DNA, if testing did occur, has no obligation to make any statements or to be forced to make statements, there is a customer/client confidentiality issues involved here and no private company in this instance will make comment as it will impact their business with other clients. If the DNA was tested, they have provided the technical report, that's it, one suspects if the BiB do use this facility on a regular basis, the company concerned may not even know they have tested these samples or the reason they are providing the analysis unless you are that naive to believe they sent the samples with bumese man #1 KT murder, bumese man #2 KT murder, written on the bag in black marker pen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceybonus Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/south-east-asia/story/3-myanmar-workers-say-police-tortured-them-info-over-murders-2-brito I think the Singapore authorities need to make a statement on the extent of the DNA testing! So many people/agencies being quiet! Please stop with the paranoid comments... If the company testing this DNA, if testing did occur, has no obligation to make any statements or to be forced to make statements, there is a customer/client confidentiality issues involved here and no private company in this instance will make comment as it will impact their business with other clients. If the DNA was tested, they have provided the technical report, that's it, one suspects if the BiB do use this facility on a regular basis, the company concerned may not even know they have tested these samples or the reason they are providing the analysis unless you are that naive to believe they sent the samples with bumese man #1 KT murder, bumese man #2 KT murder, written on the bag in black marker pen <deleted> are you talking about????????? The murderers' DNA has never been sent to Singapore. Doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceybonus Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/south-east-asia/story/3-myanmar-workers-say-police-tortured-them-info-over-murders-2-brito I think the Singapore authorities need to make a statement on the extent of the DNA testing! So many people/agencies being quiet! Please stop with the paranoid comments... If the company testing this DNA, if testing did occur, has no obligation to make any statements or to be forced to make statements, there is a customer/client confidentiality issues involved here and no private company in this instance will make comment as it will impact their business with other clients. If the DNA was tested, they have provided the technical report, that's it, one suspects if the BiB do use this facility on a regular basis, the company concerned may not even know they have tested these samples or the reason they are providing the analysis unless you are that naive to believe they sent the samples with bumese man #1 KT murder, bumese man #2 KT murder, written on the bag in black marker pen <deleted> are you talking about????????? The murderers' DNA has never been sent to Singapore. Doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceybonus Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/south-east-asia/story/3-myanmar-workers-say-police-tortured-them-info-over-murders-2-brito I think the Singapore authorities need to make a statement on the extent of the DNA testing! So many people/agencies being quiet! Please stop with the paranoid comments... If the company testing this DNA, if testing did occur, has no obligation to make any statements or to be forced to make statements, there is a customer/client confidentiality issues involved here and no private company in this instance will make comment as it will impact their business with other clients. If the DNA was tested, they have provided the technical report, that's it, one suspects if the BiB do use this facility on a regular basis, the company concerned may not even know they have tested these samples or the reason they are providing the analysis unless you are that naive to believe they sent the samples with bumese man #1 KT murder, bumese man #2 KT murder, written on the bag in black marker pen <deleted> are you talking about????????? The alleged murderers' DNA has never been sent to Singapore. Doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/south-east-asia/story/3-myanmar-workers-say-police-tortured-them-info-over-murders-2-brito I think the Singapore authorities need to make a statement on the extent of the DNA testing! So many people/agencies being quiet! Please stop with the paranoid comments... If the company testing this DNA, if testing did occur, has no obligation to make any statements or to be forced to make statements, there is a customer/client confidentiality issues involved here and no private company in this instance will make comment as it will impact their business with other clients. If the DNA was tested, they have provided the technical report, that's it, one suspects if the BiB do use this facility on a regular basis, the company concerned may not even know they have tested these samples or the reason they are providing the analysis unless you are that naive to believe they sent the samples with bumese man #1 KT murder, bumese man #2 KT murder, written on the bag in black marker pen <deleted> are you talking about????????? The murderers' DNA has never been sent to Singapore. Doh! oh dear boy stop contradicting yourself "I think the Singapore authorities need to make a statement on the extent of the DNA testing!" now your saying it was never sent, so nothing to do Singapore so why so they need to make a statement ? cant have it both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Perhaps, instead of blustering, Pol Col Somyos, you should consider the claim by the taxi driver who stated that the police asked him to make a false statement, the revelations that the police are on the take to allow illegal immigrants to work on Koh Tao, and the fact that CCTV cameras should have been among the first things checked, thus providing, weeks earlier, the filmed evidence that you cite.In any case, you need to be less concerned with the observations of social commentators, and more concerned with convincing the British government that the police have got it right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceybonus Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/south-east-asia/story/3-myanmar-workers-say-police-tortured-them-info-over-murders-2-brito I think the Singapore authorities need to make a statement on the extent of the DNA testing! So many people/agencies being quiet! Please stop with the paranoid comments... If the company testing this DNA, if testing did occur, has no obligation to make any statements or to be forced to make statements, there is a customer/client confidentiality issues involved here and no private company in this instance will make comment as it will impact their business with other clients. If the DNA was tested, they have provided the technical report, that's it, one suspects if the BiB do use this facility on a regular basis, the company concerned may not even know they have tested these samples or the reason they are providing the analysis unless you are that naive to believe they sent the samples with bumese man #1 KT murder, bumese man #2 KT murder, written on the bag in black marker pen <deleted> are you talking about????????? The murderers' DNA has never been sent to Singapore. Doh! oh dear boy stop contradicting yourself "I think the Singapore authorities need to make a statement on the extent of the DNA testing!" now your saying it was never sent, so nothing to do Singapore so why so they need to make a statement ? cant have it both ways. Some of the original dna samples were sent. The alleged were done in Thailand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 what has it got to do with the uk gov? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceybonus Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 http://www.straitstimes.com/news/asia/south-east-asia/story/3-myanmar-workers-say-police-tortured-them-info-over-murders-2-brito I think the Singapore authorities need to make a statement on the extent of the DNA testing! So many people/agencies being quiet! Please stop with the paranoid comments... If the company testing this DNA, if testing did occur, has no obligation to make any statements or to be forced to make statements, there is a customer/client confidentiality issues involved here and no private company in this instance will make comment as it will impact their business with other clients. If the DNA was tested, they have provided the technical report, that's it, one suspects if the BiB do use this facility on a regular basis, the company concerned may not even know they have tested these samples or the reason they are providing the analysis unless you are that naive to believe they sent the samples with bumese man #1 KT murder, bumese man #2 KT murder, written on the bag in black marker pen <deleted> are you talking about????????? The murderers' DNA has never been sent to Singapore. Doh! oh dear boy stop contradicting yourself "I think the Singapore authorities need to make a statement on the extent of the DNA testing!" now your saying it was never sent, so nothing to do Singapore so why so they need to make a statement ? cant have it both ways. Some of the original dna samples were sent. The alleged perps were done in Thailand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 what has it got to do with the uk gov? Could be I fink the butchered and defiled in paradise were English..... ......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjules007 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 what has it got to do with the uk gov? Erm.... 2 of there citizens were slaughtered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickirs Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Criticising court rulings is illegal in thailand as it is construed as contempt of court but there is no law against criticising the work of the police or other civil servants. Saying that no one can disagree with the police is dictatorship in the raw. Thailand on the way to becoming a police state. Ummm....maybe you missed the part where Thailand is now under the absolue power of the NCPO as a result of a recent military coup? Ummm....maybe you missed the part where the 2007 Constitution was tossed by the Junta and martial law trumps civil liberties? The police are now under the Junta and any criticism of the police might be by extension a criticism of the Junta. And you know the NCPO's viewpoint about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/193657/Death_Overseas_web_13.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iReason Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Why did the two dewarf's have no marks, scratches on them, they were interviewed a day after the killings and let go, they worked in the Ac bar were the altercation took place, there were witness's to that , but not with them ! I have talked to many guys who have said, there is no way David could not of put up a fight, also they are saying the injuries on David were not from a hoe but a small knife, it would have taken a long time to kill him with one of these! Origionally , i read David had bruising on his knuckles , they ,or someone would of had marks. A lot is missing here, too many unanswered questions and we all know that ,apart from JTJ !! Most of what you say has come from comments on social media that grow with repeated telling. What witnesses to the altercation - a Scot who posted on FB, then disappeared when his kiddie porn conviction was revealed? Where are the others? The friends of the deceased who were present haven't come out to confirm McAnna's stories - in fact they have been very quiet. None of the press seem interested in him anymore either. One poster went into great depth about the injuries to the male victim, even asserting the type of weapon used. Amazing he deduced all that from photos on FB. Who are these mysterious guy's you've talked to? How are they qualified to make such statements - were they sitting on bar stools, ex SAS, Navy Seals, Intepol etc? There are anomalies which need to be addressed during the trial and should be explored by the lawyers. The poor management of the media, comments to the media and speculations by some presented as true facts was also extremely unfortunate and helped fuel the conspiracy theorists. We all "know' what we want to believe. And many have made their mind up that there is a great conspiracy and that they, through their fantastic powers of reasoning and knowledge of such things, know exactly who the guilty party are. They probably know who killed JFK, Marilyn Monroe and he ID of Jack the Ripper too. After Mc Kenna's family contacted the British Gov't they advised Mc Kenna not to speak. They came and removed him from the island. Under guard. The kiddie porn revelation came after he was gone. Screenshots are of the day after the murders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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