jdinasia Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Wilson.. There is no magic number. The UK has no standing to initiate an investigation in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Wilson.. There is no magic number. The UK has no standing to initiate an investigation in Thailand. Unless invited by the Thai government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 the trial will be in Thailand under the Thai legal system by the Thai Judiciary 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Wilson.. There is no magic number. The UK has no standing to initiate an investigation in Thailand. Unless invited by the Thai government. Not even then. They can participate if invited but not otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Wilson.. There is no magic number. The UK has no standing to initiate an investigation in Thailand. Unless invited by the Thai government. Not even then. They can participate if invited but not otherwise. It would help clean this mess up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 all that can be asked by outside authorities is that it is seen to be fair the dead cannot be brought back to life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 all that can be asked by outside authorities is that it is seen to be fair the dead cannot be brought back to life They could submit evidence to the defence though. If they have or can get that evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Wilson.. There is no magic number. The UK has no standing to initiate an investigation in Thailand. Unless invited by the Thai government. Not even then. They can participate if invited but not otherwise. It would help clean this mess up though. Not IMHO.. Those that are convinced from the multitude of conspiracy theories to date will never be satisfied unless their scapegoat burns. The chances of getting viable DNA samples from the victims at this point are slim to none. If they did get them and they matched the 2 Burmese men people would claim it was planted. There just is no way to make people who are convinced there is a conspiracy to think anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 ^^ You hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyexile Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 the trial will be in Thailand under the Thai legal system by the Thai Judiciary The junta can instruct the court as to verdict. Under Martial Law and the New Interim Constitution, the Judiciary can be overruled and/or suspended at any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Wilson is a here, He guys take a looksie at CSI LA Facebook page. They're ready to attack Mon, Warot and Non Sod's business interests on ko tao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabis Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I want this case reinvestigated. We need 100,000 signatures. So for we have 56,732 signatures. We are half way there. Please spread the word. Sandy Thin Mar Oo will be handing over our petition in person to Prime Minister David Camerons office in London on October 17th. http://www.change.org/p/the-government-of-the-united-kingdom-independently-investigate-the-horrific-murders-of-hannah-witheridge-and-david-miller This was posted on the CSI LA Facebook page. Every time I try to sign the petition it's in Thai language. I end up giving up. Please let us have a way of signing in English. I'm using a tablet computer. if you scroll down the page, and click on the small square spot at the bottom right , you can select the language. it has been said at least 10 times in the last week... I've done it, I've signed This is how I managed to get aroung the Thai language sign form. Go to the top right Thai word which is login to change.org. Change the language at the bottom right of that page when it opens. Then go back to the sign page and it's in English. FYI: If you include ?lang=en-US in the URL address, it will set the language automatically to english (like so: http://www.change.org/p/the-government-of-the-united-kingdom-independently-investigate-the-horrific-murders-of-hannah-witheridge-and-david-miller?lang=en-US ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 all that can be asked by outside authorities is that it is seen to be fair the dead cannot be brought back to life They could submit evidence to the defence though. If they have or can get that evidence. If you think there was a conspiracy to frame the 2 Burmese men, do you really think exculpatory evidence still exists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 the trial will be in Thailand under the Thai legal system by the Thai Judiciary The junta can instruct the court as to verdict. Under Martial Law and the New Interim Constitution, the Judiciary can be overruled and/or suspended at any time. No. They could be tried under martial law. Overturning the court isn't at all likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 ^^ You hope. Huh??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 all that can be asked by outside authorities is that it is seen to be fair the dead cannot be brought back to life They could submit evidence to the defence though. If they have or can get that evidence. If you think there was a conspiracy to frame the 2 Burmese men, do you really think exculpatory evidence still exists? If the UK has done the autopsy and recovered forensic (DNA) evidence and the two Burmese boys haven't "committed suicide" and been cremated yet, then yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 ^^ You hope. Huh??? You <deleted> heard me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobz Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 all that can be asked by outside authorities is that it is seen to be fair the dead cannot be brought back to life Future lives could be saved by bringing potential serial killers/rapists to justice.... oh did i mention justice.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krenjai Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 https://www.facebook.com/CSILA90210/photos/a.600950366649359.1073741828.596740650403664/715266805217714/?type=1 What else can he say? Yes, I was involved in date rapes? Why doesn't he explain why he didn't wash the blood of his guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 all that can be asked by outside authorities is that it is seen to be fair the dead cannot be brought back to life They could submit evidence to the defence though. If they have or can get that evidence. If you think there was a conspiracy to frame the 2 Burmese men, do you really think exculpatory evidence still exists? If the UK has done the autopsy and recovered forensic (DNA) evidence and the two Burmese boys haven't "committed suicide" and been cremated yet, then yes. Explained in a recent post If there was a conspiracy ... It is unlikely that viable DNA would be found. If was and matched the 2 Burmese men people would claim it was planted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 all that can be asked by outside authorities is that it is seen to be fair the dead cannot be brought back to life Future lives could be saved by bringing potential serial killers/rapists to justice.... oh did i mention justice.. by who after a trial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 ^^ You hope.Huh??? You heard me. I hope what?? Seriously don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 ^^ You hope.Huh??? You heard me. I hope what?? Seriously don't understand. You hope there isn't evidence to the contrary is what. It's pretty bloody obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 what right under international law does a country have to meddle in another countries internal affairs? war of jenkin's ear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 what right under international law does a country have to meddle in another countries internal affairs? war of jenkin's ear? The one where two of its citizens have been murdered and there's reasonable suspicion of a cover up. No "right" to do this but to remove the doubt it would be wise for the Thai government to invite the UK police into the investigation, give them full access to the evidence. I'd have thought this would be obvious at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 ^^ You hope.Huh??? You heard me. I hope what?? Seriously don't understand. You hope there isn't evidence to the contrary is what. It's pretty bloody obvious. Thanks for demonstrating what a straw man is. I think they have the killers. That doesn't mean I am sure. That is what a trial is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 what right under international law does a country have to meddle in another countries internal affairs? war of jenkin's ear? The one where two of its citizens have been murdered and there's reasonable suspicion of a cover up. No "right" to do this but to remove the doubt it would be wise for the Thai government to invite the UK police into the investigation, give them full access to the evidence. I'd have thought this would be obvious at this point? wise? that sounds like a threat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 what right under international law does a country have to meddle in another countries internal affairs? war of jenkin's ear? The one where two of its citizens have been murdered and there's reasonable suspicion of a cover up. No "right" to do this but to remove the doubt it would be wise for the Thai government to invite the UK police into the investigation, give them full access to the evidence. I'd have thought this would be obvious at this point? I would be willing to bet (if it were legal) that the UK will never ask for that. Not without proof of a conspiracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 ^^ You hope.Huh??? You heard me. I hope what?? Seriously don't understand. You hope there isn't evidence to the contrary is what. It's pretty bloody obvious. Thanks for demonstrating what a straw man is. I think they have the killers. That doesn't mean I am sure. That is what a trial is for. The trouble is the "evidence" will not be trusted. The confessions turned out not to be confessions. Phones all over the place. Taxi driver saying the RTP tried to bribe a false witness statement out of him. Suspicious CCTV footage, some say doctored. All manner of other carnage. DNA testing from the UK authorities please. That will clear this up in an instant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabis Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 A few points on the reach topic approached by jd; CSI LA has reached ~500k, most engaging persons being 25-34 year old Bangkokians. I've personally seen hundreds of articles in global press, in dozen or so different languages, so I'd say that the issue has been widespread. Visibility of local news usually trumps anything happening abroad, but this thing keeps popping up steadily among "front page" of various news sites, so I'd say that millions of people are aware of the happenings, though with varying level of interest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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