Thai Women: A raw deal?

[Liquorice]

I only eat once a day.........does that make me a monk?

Seriously the monks patrol the high street and the schools here every morning, with hands outstretched for money and food.

They take from the poor and get rich...........just my observations.

Edited November 2, 2014 by Faz

[thailiketoo]

What are you suggesting in regard to the video? Please don't suggest Mary was a reformed prostitute, you are not that stupid.

It is almost universally agreed today that characterizations of Mary Magdalene in Western Christianity as a repentant prostitute or loose woman are unfounded.

I agree with your assertion of the western Christian theme, it was never anybody else's' in the first place, but why the reason of the video?

A thread on the ease of prostitution, and a song in regard to the 'Magdalene', which could be interpreted by some, because of the long standing belief of her prior life by certain groupings.

I am only asking for a reason, perhaps you meant nothing by it, but it seems strange to me why you did it, except to infer a long standing belief in western culture to undermine the strong female characters that have undermined the masculinity of man in western culture.

You haven't answered my question.

The post I responded to was about respect. Thailand has lady garbage men and I respect them not for how they smell but for the fact that they work hard. I didn't think about most of the stuff in your post to be honest. I respect people who work. I may not understand exactly what it is that they do but still all work is worthy of respect. Another poster mentioned monks and they work. They came to my house to bless it and chanted for a couple of hours and drew things over the door. I don't know exactly what they said or why they did what they did but it seemed to make the people happy and happiness is important.

I don't know if I have answered your question. I don't really know what it is actually..... In general I'd say it was the thought that counts rather than the historical or pedantic accuracy of any particular incident in ancient history that can't really be proved one way or the other.

[thailiketoo]

I only eat once a day.........does that make me a monk?

Seriously the monks patrol the high street and the schools here every morning, with hands outstretched for money and food.

They take from the poor and get rich...........just my observations.

A lot of monks can't touch money and they take only food. I think you need to do a little more research about monks. But I don't think you have ever been to Thailand or if you have not long enough or in the right places to get an accurate impression of what is really going on here.

What country are you posting about? High street and monks taking money? Sounds really not Thailandish.

[tim armstrong]

Why don't bar girls want other jobs ? Yes its about the money, but ost don't know what jobs are available especially skilled jobs that need training. Educating women in this country is maybe the single most important way for Thailand to achieve a better distribution of wealth

You sound as if you don't know a lot about Thailand. Bar girls are not about money, its about living. How do you get a skilled job with out a good education,The Thai Education system is not that good, Unless you have money, and go private. Thailand don't want educated women, sadly their place in Thai Society is just above the street dog, and another sad fact is many sad men exploit them, and convince themselves they are helping these bar girls. But in reality they are sex Tourists in per suite of there own gratification, which many cannot do in there own Country.

Actually you sound as if you don't know a lot about Thailand. Roughly 150,000 Thai women graduate from college every year. Some of those get cell phones and motor scooters by working a bit on the side. 90% of Thai prostitution is not for sex tourists and Farang would not be allowed entry in most of the establishments in Thailand. Since unemployment is 1% or less in Thailand the conclusion must be the ladies do it for money or because they like the work.

Well actually having lived here, worked here, and travelled extensively around the country, I think i know quite a bit about Thailand after 13 years. I have also talked and socialised with Thais at all levels, and have some close Thai friends. While I agree with some of the comments above, there are many less skilled girls working in shops, admin jobs, and as sales assistants. Especially country girls - gravitate to factories in their late teens. But 300 baht a day is barely enough to live on.

Try going into any bar in Pattaya during the day when its not so busy and ask a young looking bar girl if she would rather be at home or living in Pattaya. The vast majority will tell you they want to be at home, but they need the money. They don't want to have sex with fat old farangs or young handsome ones, unless marriage is a real possibility. They are also woefully ignorant about the countries that most expats come from, and really do believe that everywhere outside Thailand is filthy rich and by going there they will make a lot of MONEY.

[Liquorice]

thailiketoo, on 02 Nov 2014 - 09:59, said:

Faz, on 02 Nov 2014 - 09:43, said:

I only eat once a day.........does that make me a monk?

Seriously the monks patrol the high street and the schools here every morning, with hands outstretched for money and food.

They take from the poor and get rich...........just my observations.

A lot of monks can't touch money and they take only food. I think you need to do a little more research about monks. But I don't think you have ever been to Thailand or if you have not long enough or in the right places to get an accurate impression of what is really going on here.

What country are you posting about? High street and monks taking money? Sounds really not Thailandish.

I live in Issan.

Daily the monks take money from children outside schools and on the high street. It's a regular group of 10 - 15 monks.

My G/F owns a shop on the high street and although she doesn't like to talk about it, she admits they can be a real nuisance. She's instructed her son not to give them any money outside the school and she often leaves her post when they come to her shop.

We all know the legend of Robin Hood, but what I have observed with my own eyes resembles the actions of the Sherriff of Nottingham.

Where do you get the notion that monks don't take money?

[thailiketoo]

thailiketoo, on 02 Nov 2014 - 09:59, said:

Faz, on 02 Nov 2014 - 09:43, said:

I only eat once a day.........does that make me a monk?

Seriously the monks patrol the high street and the schools here every morning, with hands outstretched for money and food.

They take from the poor and get rich...........just my observations.

A lot of monks can't touch money and they take only food. I think you need to do a little more research about monks. But I don't think you have ever been to Thailand or if you have not long enough or in the right places to get an accurate impression of what is really going on here.

What country are you posting about? High street and monks taking money? Sounds really not Thailandish.

I live in Issan.

Daily the monks take money from children outside schools and on the high street. It's a regular group of 10 - 15 monks.

My G/F owns a shop on the high street and although she doesn't like to talk about it, she admits they can be a real nuisance. She's instructed her son not to give them any money outside the school and she often leaves her post when they come to her shop.

We all know the legend of Robin Hood, but what I have observed with my own eyes resembles the actions of the Sherriff of Nottingham.

Where do you get the notion that monks don't take money?

The Thai Forest tradition is the branch of Theravada Buddhism in Thailand that most strictly holds the original monastic rules of discipline laid down by the Buddha.

Forest monks follow an extensive 227 rules of conduct. They are required to be celibate, to eat only between dawn and noon, and not to handle money.

I would imagine you have only been in Thailand a short time. There are many things you do not know.

Edited November 2, 2014 by thailiketoo

[David48]

I can only speak for MissFarmGirl, seen below ... center of the action ... as she always is.

Is she the 'the back legs of the elephant' ... well, she does a lot of the heavy lifting.

God love her ...

OH ... Auntie PatsyCat ... this post is for you ... sure you still want the Boys to visit ... 5555

geronimo ... nice OP BTW ...

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Pity all that gold is not hidden. Little Miss farm girl indeed, not

Oh Munger, please continue ... don't hold back.

Tell me who bought what, what gold you see, their respective weights.

I'd love to know what you know. Here's your chance to expose the fraud who is MissFarmGirl.

I'll go grab the popcorn and await your insightful reply ...

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[pigeonjake]

I can only speak for MissFarmGirl, seen below ... center of the action ... as she always is.

Is she the 'the back legs of the elephant' ... well, she does a lot of the heavy lifting.

God love her ...

OH ... Auntie PatsyCat ... this post is for you ... sure you still want the Boys to visit ... 5555

geronimo ... nice OP BTW ...

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Pity all that gold is not hidden. Little Miss farm girl indeed, not

Oh Munger, please continue ... don't hold back.

Tell me who bought what, what gold you see, their respective weights.

I'd love to know what you know. Here's your chance to expose the fraud who is MissFarmGirl.

I'll go grab the popcorn and await your insightful reply ...

..

david my old mate.

you should know by now that some just cant help themselfs,

they cant stand to see some happy pictures,, ive had it too mate,,

dont even rise to them anymore,,

looking good mate, boys coming on great, i do hope they arnt going to fight over my little janet,,lol

[Kwasaki]

Yeah come on Dave don't play into the A holes on here, Munger should change his name to Hunger because he is jealous of your present situation.

Sweet pictures buddy but just sent them to people on PM friends with you.

Take care K.

[wolfmanjack]

I know I've gotten lazier around the house since I've been here. I can't even finish a beer before she's got another one for me. She's actually gotten mad(sorta) when I washed my own dishes while she was out.

Had same problem with my first Thai girlfriend. She would get mad if she saw me doing any housework. It was one of the biggest reasons why I left.

Almost all the Thai wifes married to farangs I know work hard from morning to night. Mine seems to never stop. I have to keep an eye on her to see if she needs help with something as. she will never ask.

You are lucky. My wife won't clean and complains about the house being dirty.

[Mossfinn]

I see no gold, just love clamouring for attention, maybe just attention looking for a hand hold in a swell of affection. Yes, my kind of chaos, I could watch this all day, two young children just being children and two adults, what appears to me, just living the dream.

You could just walk down Walking Street, but me, much more fun watching chaos in motion, and just enjoying the moment.

Moss

[David48]

Thanks pj, Kwaka and Mossie ...

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[wolfmanjack]

thailiketoo, on 02 Nov 2014 - 09:59, said:

Faz, on 02 Nov 2014 - 09:43, said:

I only eat once a day.........does that make me a monk?

Seriously the monks patrol the high street and the schools here every morning, with hands outstretched for money and food.

They take from the poor and get rich...........just my observations.

A lot of monks can't touch money and they take only food. I think you need to do a little more research about monks. But I don't think you have ever been to Thailand or if you have not long enough or in the right places to get an accurate impression of what is really going on here.

What country are you posting about? High street and monks taking money? Sounds really not Thailandish.

I live in Issan.

Daily the monks take money from children outside schools and on the high street. It's a regular group of 10 - 15 monks.

My G/F owns a shop on the high street and although she doesn't like to talk about it, she admits they can be a real nuisance. She's instructed her son not to give them any money outside the school and she often leaves her post when they come to her shop.

We all know the legend of Robin Hood, but what I have observed with my own eyes resembles the actions of the Sherriff of Nottingham.

Where do you get the notion that monks don't take money?

The Thai Forest tradition is the branch of Theravada Buddhism in Thailand that most strictly holds the original monastic rules of discipline laid down by the Buddha.

Forest monks follow an extensive 227 rules of conduct. They are required to be celibate, to eat only between dawn and noon, and not to handle money.

I would imagine you have only been in Thailand a short time. There are many things you do not know.

I have been coming to thailand since 1995 and have lived here since 1998. I have seen the type of monks you are referring to but the vast majority are not living in the forest. They are living in and around the cities and villages. If you stay here long enough you will see monks shopping at the malls and walking around with cellphones. Maybe some of them got the cellphones as a donation but I doubt all of them I have seen with cellphones did.

By the way ho did not say monks do not contribute to soicty much. he said he does not imagine that they contribute to the economy very much.

[michaeltheR]

I know a lot of good Thai women who stick to their men through thick and thin but there are alos many who would date Jabba The Hutt as long as he provides her with a certain lifestyle and money. So it is always something to do with luck and meeting the right people

[Liquorice]

Well Jabba the Hutt would at least fall in the same category as 'aliens', as we are referred too.

Hope he got the right Visa ?

[Donnie Brasco]

its a darn good thing thai girls got a raw deal...............lol.

or else they might not be as hospitable to us as they are............lol.

Linguistic, sociological, race and educational "tells" abound here.

Disgusting remarks like this spew forth from their obvious signature sources.

Somebody should open a window after a remark like that because I prefer the racket of Bangkok traffic to this kind of hate-speech. The caliber of mind, the kind of misogynistic, classist imprinting that generates this kind of classist gutter humour is all too easily vetted for its provenance.

Edited November 3, 2014 by Donnie Brasco

[thailiketoo]

I live in Issan.

Daily the monks take money from children outside schools and on the high street. It's a regular group of 10 - 15 monks.

My G/F owns a shop on the high street and although she doesn't like to talk about it, she admits they can be a real nuisance. She's instructed her son not to give them any money outside the school and she often leaves her post when they come to her shop.

We all know the legend of Robin Hood, but what I have observed with my own eyes resembles the actions of the Sherriff of Nottingham.

Where do you get the notion that monks don't take money?

The Thai Forest tradition is the branch of Theravada Buddhism in Thailand that most strictly holds the original monastic rules of discipline laid down by the Buddha.

Forest monks follow an extensive 227 rules of conduct. They are required to be celibate, to eat only between dawn and noon, and not to handle money.

I would imagine you have only been in Thailand a short time. There are many things you do not know.

I have been coming to thailand since 1995 and have lived here since 1998. I have seen the type of monks you are referring to but the vast majority are not living in the forest. They are living in and around the cities and villages. If you stay here long enough you will see monks shopping at the malls and walking around with cellphones. Maybe some of them got the cellphones as a donation but I doubt all of them I have seen with cellphones did.

By the way ho did not say monks do not contribute to soicty much. he said he does not imagine that they contribute to the economy very much.

You do know that most of the monks you see at the store are only ordained for a short period of time? ......most of these men become monks for a short period at least once during their lives. This often occurs at puberty but a man can re-enter the monastery for short periods at any time during his life. The government often encourages civil servants to spend several months in a monastery at some point during their career. Not only does this serve to strengthen ties between the monasteries and the lay communities, but it reinforces Buddhist teachings and values. http://asia.isp.msu.edu/wbwoa/southeast_asia/thailand/religion.htm

[wolfmanjack]

I live in Issan.

Daily the monks take money from children outside schools and on the high street. It's a regular group of 10 - 15 monks.

My G/F owns a shop on the high street and although she doesn't like to talk about it, she admits they can be a real nuisance. She's instructed her son not to give them any money outside the school and she often leaves her post when they come to her shop.

We all know the legend of Robin Hood, but what I have observed with my own eyes resembles the actions of the Sherriff of Nottingham.

Where do you get the notion that monks don't take money?

The Thai Forest tradition is the branch of Theravada Buddhism in Thailand that most strictly holds the original monastic rules of discipline laid down by the Buddha.

Forest monks follow an extensive 227 rules of conduct. They are required to be celibate, to eat only between dawn and noon, and not to handle money.

I would imagine you have only been in Thailand a short time. There are many things you do not know.

I have been coming to thailand since 1995 and have lived here since 1998. I have seen the type of monks you are referring to but the vast majority are not living in the forest. They are living in and around the cities and villages. If you stay here long enough you will see monks shopping at the malls and walking around with cellphones. Maybe some of them got the cellphones as a donation but I doubt all of them I have seen with cellphones did.

By the way ho did not say monks do not contribute to soicty much. he said he does not imagine that they contribute to the economy very much.

You do know that most of the monks you see at the store are only ordained for a short period of time? ......most of these men become monks for a short period at least once during their lives. This often occurs at puberty but a man can re-enter the monastery for short periods at any time during his life. The government often encourages civil servants to spend several months in a monastery at some point during their career. Not only does this serve to strengthen ties between the monasteries and the lay communities, but it reinforces Buddhist teachings and values. http://asia.isp.msu.edu/wbwoa/southeast_asia/thailand/religion.htm

yeah I am aware of that. It still does not excuse people wandering around the shopping malls talking on cellphones while wearing monk robes and sporting a shaved head. these have always been older men that I have seen not young kids.

I have also seen the same thing at the temples here in chiang mai that my wife has gone to for meditation and blessings.

I still maintain that very few, if any of the monks in the city live the same type of life the forest monks you mention do. The forest monks, in my opinion are a very small minority of the entire monk population.

[thailiketoo]

You do know that most of the monks you see at the store are only ordained for a short period of time? ......most of these men become monks for a short period at least once during their lives. This often occurs at puberty but a man can re-enter the monastery for short periods at any time during his life. The government often encourages civil servants to spend several months in a monastery at some point during their career. Not only does this serve to strengthen ties between the monasteries and the lay communities, but it reinforces Buddhist teachings and values. http://asia.isp.msu.edu/wbwoa/southeast_asia/thailand/religion.htm

yeah I am aware of that. It still does not excuse people wandering around the shopping malls talking on cellphones while wearing monk robes and sporting a shaved head. these have always been older men that I have seen not young kids.

I have also seen the same thing at the temples here in chiang mai that my wife has gone to for meditation and blessings.

I still maintain that very few, if any of the monks in the city live the same type of life the forest monks you mention do. The forest monks, in my opinion are a very small minority of the entire monk population.

How many or what percent of monks are good monks? The real monks one only sees early in the morning. I know there are phony monks and I don't like them. I only give food to the monks in the morning and would never give cash except for house blessings and funerals and that kind of thing. I go to a Temple run by the Forest monks because I like the lunch served daily. I realize that is not very spiritual.

• Abhayagiri Monastery - U.S.A.
• Amaravati Monastery - U.K.
• Aruna Ratanagiri Monastery - U.K.
• Bodhinyanarama Monastery - New Zealand
• Bodhivana Monastery, no website available - Australia
• Cittaviveka Monastery - U.K.
• Dhammapala Kloster - Switzerland
• Forest Hermitage - U.K.
• Hartridge Monastery - U.K.
• Santacittarama Monastero - Italy
• Vimutti Hermitage - New Zealand
• Wat Nong Pah Pong - Thailand
• Wat Pah Nanachat - Thailand

[thehelmsman]

Monk blesses house, give them money. Monk blesses car, give money. Monk blesses motorbike, give them money. Monk wants to drink, he will come around and party back of house, out of sight from village with a small select entorage.

[Kudel]

Tempels in isaan are also known to give loans at extortianate rates to poor farmers via the village heads because they cant handle money themselves,last year Thai tempels in my country tried to get funds from the goverment taxpayers money for the so called upkeep of their tempels whilst some monks in Thailand are driven around in top brand German cars in Thailand luckely the government told them to basicly eff off.....concerning funds.

[Liquorice]

I'm glad others can confirm my experiences with some of the local monks in Issan, so let's just agree to disagree and get back on topic.

All those in favour say 'Ay'.........Ay, Ay, Ay, Ay.

[Liquorice]

Do Thai women get a raw deal?

Within their culture and history, most Thai women would say 'No' in my opinion.

Centuries ago the role of the man was to provide for the family, the role of the woman to look after the home and family.

Through centuries of evolvement the need for a better standard of living has forced women to work as well as maintaining their duties as a wife and mother.

It was little different in the west centuries ago, the difference being as the west evolved, so did the roles of the women and the men. The women in many cases went to work to provide more money, while the men took more responsibility for looking after the home and children.

In the east however I see little change to the role of the man who still expects the woman to work, take care of the kids and the house.

So from a western male prospective, I would say 'Yes' they get a raw deal.

[wilkes]

What would you suggest for a single guy in his 50's, good shape and ok financially who wanted to find a good wife for a long term relationship...how would you start that search?

[David48]

What would you suggest for a single guy in his 50's, good shape and ok financially who wanted to find a good wife for a long term relationship...how would you start that search?

Here you go.

Your question would be buried here on page 8, so I created something new for you.

Click this link ... what-would-you-suggest-for-a-single-guy-in-his-50s ... and you can ask supplementary questions there.

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[siampolee]

One can but only presume that Munger is in a failed relationship with Mrs.Palm and her five daughters and there no longer satisfaction in his self pleasuring romantic excursions into his romantic fantasy world.

Indeed one can but only presume that Munger is indeed the epitome of the lovelorn foreign chappy who fell for the stripper in the bar who then stripped him of that little which he had amassed from the local charity and thrift shops.

Edited November 3, 2014 by siampolee

[ATF]

Well if there is anything to mention about Munger it seems to me he has been done over by a Thai woman and good job too, and if anyone is a tit he is certainly one of em, car park of your choice anytime Munger tit.

Yes it is in extremely bad taste to comment on any man's choice of woman and some men do have extremely bad taste.

I'm sure if David was still in Australia his Farm Girl would weigh 120kgs and be carrying a 12 gauge under her arm.

[geronimo]

Well if there is anything to mention about Munger it seems to me he has been done over by a Thai woman and good job too, and if anyone is a tit he is certainly one of em, car park of your choice anytime Munger tit.

Yes it is in extremely bad taste to comment on any man's choice of woman and some men do have extremely bad taste.

I'm sure if David was still in Australia his Farm Girl would weigh 120kgs and be carrying a 12 gauge under her arm.

Actually to picture a farm girl is quite easy. Take one female and put her on a a farm and voila! There you have it!

[malt25]

One can but only presume that Munger is in a failed relationship with Mrs.Palm and her five daughters and there no longer satisfaction in his self pleasuring romantic excursions into his romantic fantasy world.

Indeed one can but only presume that Munger is indeed the epitome of the lovelorn foreign chappy who fell for the stripper in the bar who then stripped him of that little which he had amassed from the local charity and thrift shops.

Any chance that Munger is short for Mongrel ?

Just wondering.

[theoldgit]

Highly offensive post removed, as well as some appropriate responses to that that post.

My apologies to those members who posted those responses.