Thailand agrees to British police help over murders

[coma]

Ohh. Humble pie for breakky. I love it when people eat humble pie.

[thedivezone]

tch tch ... what was he thinking ? Agreeing to British help .

That will earn the general a few bitch slaps from his godfather when he gets back home .

[meatboy]

OH YEAA

This is what we wanted all along, objective reached.

BIG thanks to everyone who made a fuss and helped get the word out.

For once its one up to the good guys.

yep lets hope they bring a few mrs.mops and a few tanks of bleach,the stink is overwhelming.

[Johnsen]

Run Nomsod run....

Thus far still just words.. Keep at them people.... You local islanders out there who truly know what happened keep e-mailing and spreading the word. Here's your chance.

There's plenty more that needs looking into. We should start a list.

Firstly all the missing CCTV footage.

Everybody's phone records that day. No doubt Nomsod used his FROM THE ISLAND.

Keep them coming people that's just a start..

[Sharp]

At the very leased 'behond a reasonable doubt' should or should not be proven now & then we can find out if they are actually guilty or not with fresh eyes and a 'real' investigation... Just my thoughts.

[Chupup]

At least the plod do have a certain amount of Respect, they will do the job right ( in most cases ) and don't need to have a photo shoot to show how good they are

[ScubaPhuket]

Good at sniffing out porkie pies is the plod.

[NongKhaiKid]

So much for Local Drunk and his entire day of trying to convince everyone that the petition was useless and wouldn't make any difference here..... Lol

I suspect large servings of 'humble pie' for breakfast now that Koh Tao will soon have 'The Plod' sniffing around.

I would call that a massive difference.

I bet certain bums are going to be squeaking on that island when they read this.

I suspect certain people will be on the first boat off and onto the first plane to Cambodia.

The British police will quickly eliminate the two young lads, and then make a list of suspects. They will surely be picking up Mr McCanna to find out what he knows.

This is going to be like peeling a banana.

Maybe not as clear cut as you are making out.

The BP website is reporting the National Police Chief as saying British officials can ' observe and make suggestions ' but not interfere with the Thai judicial process as that's tantamount to a breach of Thai sovereignty.

If this is how it works out the BIB and officialdom have ready made position to deny, refuse and decline to act on suggestions.

[wackybacky]

That is the first time I have EVER seen David get his balls out.

I would imagine he dropped a few hints about how much pressure he was getting from the public and media, so you better play ball with me.... so to speak.

I don't know just how cooperative the RTP are actually going to be.... But one thing is for sure.... Somyat must be crapping his pants if he knows there has been a cover up.

Cameron Has BALLS ?? Really not sure i believe you

I suppose he thought that should the RTP be able to prove that their investigation was in fact 'a perfect job' then at least David has perfect guy for the job of dishing out the humble apology to Prayuth..... Mr Kent.

But then again I did say 'should the RTP be able to prove they did a perfect job'..... and that has about the same chance as finding a pork chop in a mosque.

Edited October 18, 2014 by wackybacky

[Local Drunk]

So much for Local Drunk and his entire day of trying to convince everyone that the petition was useless and wouldn't make any difference here..... Lol

I suspect large servings of 'humble pie' for breakfast now that Koh Tao will soon have 'The Plod' sniffing around.

I would call that a massive difference.

I bet certain bums are going to be squeaking on that island when they read this.

I suspect certain people will be on the first boat off and onto the first plane to Cambodia.

The British police will quickly eliminate the two young lads, and then make a list of suspects. They will surely be picking up Mr McCanna to find out what he knows.

This is going to be like peeling a banana.

It's miracle actually... David Cameron walks on water. Now he just needs to turn water to wine or he'll be the one crucified.

Congratulations on your petition and I hope that everyone involved gets the closure they are looking for.

Cheers, Local Drunk.

[wackybacky]

So much for Local Drunk and his entire day of trying to convince everyone that the petition was useless and wouldn't make any difference here..... Lol

I suspect large servings of 'humble pie' for breakfast now that Koh Tao will soon have 'The Plod' sniffing around.

I would call that a massive difference.

I bet certain bums are going to be squeaking on that island when they read this.

I suspect certain people will be on the first boat off and onto the first plane to Cambodia.

The British police will quickly eliminate the two young lads, and then make a list of suspects. They will surely be picking up Mr McCanna to find out what he knows.

This is going to be like peeling a banana.

Maybe not as clear cut as you are making out.

The BP website is reporting the National Police Chief as saying British officials can ' observe and make suggestions ' but not interfere with the Thai judicial process as that's tantamount to a breach of Thai sovereignty.

If this is how it works out the BIB and officialdom have ready made position to deny, refuse and decline to act on suggestions.

That was yesterday's news. Also you will find a total mirror image of the story in The Nation.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/webmobile/national/Foreign-investigators-barred-from-Thailand-police--30245741.html

I believe those words came out of Somyot's gob.

But Prayuth seems to have made the turnaround since being collared by Cameron.

But typical of Thai media to issue totally conflicting stories at the same time... But The Telegraph tells it as the UK are invited to 'join the investigation'.

British police to fly to Thailand to probe brutal murder of two young tourists

By Georgia Graham, Political Correspondent, Milan (I prefer to put my trust in a political correspondent actually in Milan, that the BP)...

11:07PM BST 17 Oct 2014

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/thailand/11171148/British-police-to-fly-to-Thailand-to-probe-brutal-murder-of-two-young-tourists.html

The glaaring difference is Somyat is saying No... limited observation only.... While Prayuth is saying 'help in the investigation'....

Edited October 18, 2014 by wackybacky

[ScubaPhuket]

I don't agree with all the Kent bashing. Part of his job is to know the national customs, preferences & perceptions inside out & part of the national preference in thailand is that foreigners should kow-tow to their kind hosts.

He knows what he's doing.

[ScubaPhuket]

The Cameron bashing only comes from labour preferring 'British red shirts' too.

We get it, you're labour voting working class & proud of it, get over it.

[AGareth2]

thought the case was done and dusted?

flawless!

can't see Thailand allowing itself to be called out

[NongKhaiKid]

So much for Local Drunk and his entire day of trying to convince everyone that the petition was useless and wouldn't make any difference here..... Lol

I suspect large servings of 'humble pie' for breakfast now that Koh Tao will soon have 'The Plod' sniffing around.

I would call that a massive difference.

I bet certain bums are going to be squeaking on that island when they read this.

I suspect certain people will be on the first boat off and onto the first plane to Cambodia.

The British police will quickly eliminate the two young lads, and then make a list of suspects. They will surely be picking up Mr McCanna to find out what he knows.

This is going to be like peeling a banana.

Maybe not as clear cut as you are making out.

The BP website is reporting the National Police Chief as saying British officials can ' observe and make suggestions ' but not interfere with the Thai judicial process as that's tantamount to a breach of Thai sovereignty.

If this is how it works out the BIB and officialdom have ready made position to deny, refuse and decline to act on suggestions.

That was yesterday's news. Also you will find a total mirror image of the story in The Nation.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/webmobile/national/Foreign-investigators-barred-from-Thailand-police--30245741.html

I believe those words came out of Somyot's gob.

But Prayuth seems to have made the turnaround since being collared by Cameron.

But typical of Thai media to issue totally conflicting stories at the same time... But The Telegraph tells it as the UK are invited to 'join the investigation'.

British police to fly to Thailand to probe brutal murder of two young tourists

By Georgia Graham, Political Correspondent, Milan (I prefer to put my trust in a political correspondent actually in Milan, that the BP)...

11:07PM BST 17 Oct 2014

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/thailand/11171148/British-police-to-fly-to-Thailand-to-probe-brutal-murder-of-two-young-tourists.html

The glaaring difference is Somyat is saying No... limited observation only.... While Prayuth is saying 'help in the investigation'....

I sincerely hope you are right and the PM isn't just playing the diplomatic game while overseas then a team arrives here and the restrictions apply.

[tx22cb]

Advice for the Yard: screen detectives who

i) have visited SE Asia (e.g. travelled, holidayed), so that they are not distracted by culture shock

ii) are not susceptible to temptation (e.g. offers of money/girls/boys/trannies/drugs) to combat possible blackmail

iii) are resilient (so they are not easily fobbed off by road blocks, wild goose chases, delaying tactics, physical threats)

And let the local British Embassy appoint the detectives' own interpreters (so the detectives do not rely on Thai police interpreters)

[nicolas18]

The email newsletter headline is grossly misleading: the British police is not here to investigate anything.

As reported on the Nation, as well as on other Thai news websites, all the British will be able to do is to observe the investigation.

[wackybacky]

The Cameron bashing only comes from labour preferring 'British red shirts' too.

We get it, you're labour voting working class & proud of it, get over it.

Actually I helped vote Cameron in.

But 2 years ago defected my allegiance over to.

The first and only political party I have ever made a cash donation to in my life.

[bertty]

thought the case was done and dusted?

flawless!

can't see Thailand allowing itself to be called out

I can. The general wants to be seen on the world stage. He wont let his so called police force stop that from happening.

[nicolas18]

I can. The general wants to be seen on the world stage. He wont let his so called police force stop that from happening.

Oh, he has been seen alright.

[ScubaPhuket]

The Cameron bashing only comes from labour preferring 'British red shirts' too.

We get it, you're labour voting working class & proud of it, get over it.

Actually I helped vote Cameron in.

But 2 years ago defected my allegiance over to.

The first and only political party I have ever made a cash donation to in my life.

Wasn't really referring to you, more to other prolific Cameron bashers, just struck me at the time

[culicine]

The UK police are well aware of this site, they will also be aware of the game being played.

Im satisfied that for the moment it looks like DNA will be getting a second look by professionals.

Best news about the case progressing since that tragic day.

I just hope there is an original sample taken from Hannah, or they can use the results obtained in Singapore. Was any forensic work done on the bodies in the UK?

[AGareth2]

thought the case was done and dusted?

flawless!

can't see Thailand allowing itself to be called out

I can. The general wants to be seen on the world stage. He wont let his so called police force stop that from happening.

but he congratulated his boys on such a good job

Will he do a u=turn?

[bertty]

thought the case was done and dusted?

flawless!

can't see Thailand allowing itself to be called out

I can. The general wants to be seen on the world stage. He wont let his so called police force stop that from happening.

but he congratulated his boys on such a good job

Will he do a u=turn?

Why wouldn't he ? Please don't say face.

[wackybacky]

The email newsletter headline is grossly misleading: the British police is not here to investigate anything.

As reported on the Nation, as well as on other Thai news websites, all the British will be able to do is to observe the investigation.

So you think the British police are coming as 'observers' only?

What they going to observe?

The investigation is 100% complete according to the Thai police. The 'perfect job' was done.

The 'evidence' is 'overwhelming'.

So what is now to observe?.... sitting in the back of the court to watch the trial without being allowed to look at the evidence? or the investigation report???

Don't be daft..... If they can't get involved with at least checking the investigation themselves, then there is no point being there at all. It will only piss off the UK even more. You think that is going to happen?

You are dreaming.... read the Telegraph.

You are quoting yesterday's news from Somyat, Prayuth has since stepped in..... to different people.

The source said: "Obviously it is for the Thai authorities to lead and carry out that judicial process," a diplomatic source said.

"But it is important that it is fair and transparent and that both of the families can be reassured that it is the murderers that have been brought to justice.

"There are two areas we are particularly concerned about. One if the verification of the DNA samples of the suspects, making sure there is further independent verification.

"And the second is the investigation into allegations of mistreatment of the suspects.

"What the PM secured this morning was agreement from the Thai PM that we can send some British police investigators to Kho Tao to work with the Royal Thai Police on this."

Judicial process is nothing more than the charges against the two suspects.... Judicial process is from everything AFTER the investigation as in the prosecution of the case in court.

[gbswales]

I only hope that we can field some officers with a working knowledge of Thai and Burmese languages. I also worry that the Burmese accused will have already been threatened with the consequences of speaking honestly to UK police. If they need interpreters then these should not be provided by the RTP and all translated conversations should be recorded to verify accuracy after the event. Another worry is that they will find the evidence so tainted that it can prove nothing one way or the other.

[NongKhaiKid]

The email newsletter headline is grossly misleading: the British police is not here to investigate anything.

As reported on the Nation, as well as on other Thai news websites, all the British will be able to do is to observe the investigation.

Police officers going to another country have no jurisdiction and therefore no authority to do anything without the assistance of their hosts.

They can ask for anything and everything without any guarantee they will get it and being told the ' BIB will co-operate fully ' can in reality mean little.

If they try to operate as they normal would, make demands etc they can so easily be reminded they are stepping beyond their terms of reference to Observe.

[bertty]

The Cameron bashing only comes from labour preferring 'British red shirts' too.

We get it, you're labour voting working class & proud of it, get over it.

Actually I helped vote Cameron in.

But 2 years ago defected my allegiance over to.

The first and only political party I have ever made a cash donation to in my life.

One of the joys of having a mind of your own.

I used to vote Labour. Then realized what a mess they were.

So I voted Tory. Then I realized what a mess they were.

Next time it will be UKIP for me also.

Just because you vote for a party once doesn't mean it has to be a life choice.

[mattk1]

This is good news! The power of social media is immense and we have all played a part in it.

Let's see what they are allowed to actually investigate once here..

[AGareth2]

can we be sure that the general actually said what he said to Cameron

or?