Thaiwine Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 This is confusing. The taxi driver is a boyfriend or husband? The Japanese man was the husband or 'boyfriend'? How I read it is there was 1, The Thai husband 2, The Thai boyfriend 3, The Japanese ATM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thai at Heart Posted October 22, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2014 It's only going to get exponentially worse; not better. We truly are in the last days. Wake up expats!!! Can you expand on that. I can. But I will not, in depth. Suffice to say that the Thais no longer hold us as untouchable and as the procedure is passed from mother to daughter then it will only get exponentially worse. Can you provide evidence then that violence against foreigners (for example) in the past 10 years is worse than in the preceding 10 years, taking into account the proportion of westerners in the country. Otherwise, you may be simply falling prey to the 'availability heuristic', a fancy word that means that our guesses about trends are strongly influenced by the events we can most easily retrieve from memory ... these are the events that have happened most recently and those that have media prominence. We've been reading a lot about the Koh Tao murders, so we're primed when another foreigner is murdered and we think we see a pattern (our brains have evolved to see patterns and trends, but we sometimes get it wrong). We also tend to be ignorant about history. Even in western countries, most generations think they are living in particularly violent times when, in fact, the statistics show that violence has been decreasing over the decades and centuries. We all like to believe in some lost Golden Age, but the truth is usually quite different. The Thai on Thai murder rate is way above that found in normal life in the west. Thailand is a massively more dangerous place than the west. Its just the media never told anyone. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 May those two pieces of human garbage rot in hell!! Kudos to the Thai Police (!!) for solving the case quickly!! And a reminder, be careful when introduced to your Thai darlings "brother" Solve, that's a bit of a stretch - considering it was 1+1 = 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Very sad that this very trusting man would end up like this. But, please, the govt can continue going after falangs who defraud Thais, not the other way around. Not economically feasible!! Did you not read the story?? The police are indeed "going after" the two Thai's who they suspect killed the non-Thai. Also, BTW ... the Thai police go after hundreds-of-thousands more Thais than they do farangs. Correct, but not always the right ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 May those two pieces of human garbage rot in hell!! Kudos to the Thai Police (!!) for solving the case quickly!! And a reminder, be careful when introduced to your Thai darlings "brother" All my wife's brothers are high ranking policeman....fortunately they all seem to like me Correction...They SEEM to like you so far. Just give Wifey one reason to seek their help and see what happens ! I agree, would be getting "seem" very carefully defined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbar Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Love the value that (some/all/most) Thai's put on a human life, i.e. zero. This is such an ignorant and retarded comment.. Ok.. 'some' I can agree with.. but is this not the same in EVERY country? 'All/Most' - No, you're way off the mark here... You've made a massively incorrect generalisation, which I'm sure the majority of Thai's would find insulting, as would many non-Thai people (including me) who understand Thai culture. The majority of Thai's respect human life as it's against their Buddhist precepts to kill anything. None of my Thai friends, or Thai people I know over here think anything like this... My girlfriend wont even kill a mosquito, as she believes it's a sin. Clearly you don't know many Thai's, or maybe you just hang around with the minority who think in the same 'tiny-mind' way as you do.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penwithcris Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 All I know is that ten years ago I always felt relatively safe wandering around Pattaya even after dark, but so many of my friends hsve been assaulted in the recent past that I am now always concerned for my safety I don't believe that I am exhibiing a 'false memory'. In most parts of the World life has become much more dangerous. The explosion of drug use is probably at the bottom of most of the violence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTH10260 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Its blatantly obvious that the Thais are spooked in regards to shoving Farang murders under the carpet rather than the usual - suicide shit we're used to. The recent Koh Tao heinous crimes have sent a strong message to Thailand - No more BS in respect of evaluating Farang Deaths !!!!! Except that here a relative asked police to investigate the absence of the deceased, else nobody would have noticed, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddhistVirus Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Good job, RTP... Rest in Peace, Sensei... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepattaya1961 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It's pretty amazing that the woman is connected to another Japanese fatallity some years ago...........kudo's for the police-information system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 It's only going to get exponentially worse; not better. We truly are in the last days. Wake up expats!!! Can you expand on that. I can. But I will not, in depth. Suffice to say that the Thais no longer hold us as untouchable and as the procedure is passed from mother to daughter then it will only get exponentially worse. Can you provide evidence then that violence against foreigners (for example) in the past 10 years is worse than in the preceding 10 years, taking into account the proportion of westerners in the country. Otherwise, you may be simply falling prey to the 'availability heuristic', a fancy word that means that our guesses about trends are strongly influenced by the events we can most easily retrieve from memory ... these are the events that have happened most recently and those that have media prominence. We've been reading a lot about the Koh Tao murders, so we're primed when another foreigner is murdered and we think we see a pattern (our brains have evolved to see patterns and trends, but we sometimes get it wrong). We also tend to be ignorant about history. Even in western countries, most generations think they are living in particularly violent times when, in fact, the statistics show that violence has been decreasing over the decades and centuries. We all like to believe in some lost Golden Age, but the truth is usually quite different. Wow!! There be a lot of big words in there. We be nought but humble pirates here. I will give it a shot in the dark though. I will give more than evidence about the past 10 years and the preceding 10 years. I will tell you about all the years since 1970 when I first came to Thailand and you were lucky if you ran into a farang north of sukhumvit soi 25 because after that came jungle. The Thai women first got a real taste of western money when G.I. Joe was on R and R from Vietnam. It didn't take long for every bar girl from Patpong Rd to be either married to one or looking for one. That was 44 years ago and there were very few incidents between Thais and farang because we were considered untouchable but since those days farang have been dropping like flies and usually from balconies on tall buildings. I could go on and on telling you what I have seen with my own eyes but I will make room for some of the other guys to tell you more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katana Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 (edited) /.. Edited October 22, 2014 by katana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traveller 2020 Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Its a thing that happens to some wealthier expats whom get involved with local partners in third world SE Asian countries Just in today from Bali ! Wife's money motive in death of Australian dumped in Bali rice fieldRead more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/2014/10/22/16/06/wealth-the-motive-in-bali-murder#0PjujoXuKgoFt71J.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 In this case I would say good job by the RTP . They only need the couple to confess , if not there should be enough evidence already to convict them in a court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docno Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Can you expand on that. I can. But I will not, in depth. Suffice to say that the Thais no longer hold us as untouchable and as the procedure is passed from mother to daughter then it will only get exponentially worse. Can you provide evidence then that violence against foreigners (for example) in the past 10 years is worse than in the preceding 10 years, taking into account the proportion of westerners in the country. Otherwise, you may be simply falling prey to the 'availability heuristic', a fancy word that means that our guesses about trends are strongly influenced by the events we can most easily retrieve from memory ... these are the events that have happened most recently and those that have media prominence. We've been reading a lot about the Koh Tao murders, so we're primed when another foreigner is murdered and we think we see a pattern (our brains have evolved to see patterns and trends, but we sometimes get it wrong). We also tend to be ignorant about history. Even in western countries, most generations think they are living in particularly violent times when, in fact, the statistics show that violence has been decreasing over the decades and centuries. We all like to believe in some lost Golden Age, but the truth is usually quite different. Wow!! There be a lot of big words in there. We be nought but humble pirates here. I will give it a shot in the dark though. I will give more than evidence about the past 10 years and the preceding 10 years. I will tell you about all the years since 1970 when I first came to Thailand and you were lucky if you ran into a farang north of sukhumvit soi 25 because after that came jungle. The Thai women first got a real taste of western money when G.I. Joe was on R and R from Vietnam. It didn't take long for every bar girl from Patpong Rd to be either married to one or looking for one. That was 44 years ago and there were very few incidents between Thais and farang because we were considered untouchable but since those days farang have been dropping like flies and usually from balconies on tall buildings. I could go on and on telling you what I have seen with my own eyes but I will make room for some of the other guys to tell you more. "Availability" was the only word I used with more than 3 syllables... I don't dispute your experience, but it's anecdotal... one's person's memory of how things were. Can't really count as evidence, right? And I was careful to write: "...taking into account the proportion of westerners in the country." As the number of westerners here increased, violent incidents were statistically bound to increase in number. Also, once there was English language news media here -- and especially the internet -- you were more likely to hear of incidents outside of the area you lived. Back in the (very old days), if you were living in Bangkok and a foreigner was killed in Chiang Mai, you might not even hear of it. Now, ThaiVisa pipelines all the latest gruesomeness directly to your living room / desktop. An Estonian is murdered in Sakorn Something and you'll know about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 People do disgusting things all over the world, but there appears to be a 'trend' here, one that is supported by the overall corruption that eats away at the traditional Thai Folksoul to destroy its fundamental decency. This is a wake-up call for all on any side of cultural and social divides. Desperate people do desperate things to 'others' and feel more secure about it on their own turf. Thai turf is a bit shaky and the Thai mindset appears to be 'up for grabs' by the nether worlds of materialism and the desperation that corrupt leadership brings. You, dear readers, are the 'other' in the eyes of manufactured predators. 'Caution' need be the password as you perambulate their folkways. You are, indeed, a stranger in a progressively stranger land. Dear Doctor, I see you also read Robert A. Heinlan. Good for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bander Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 "The late man's Thai wife Phornchanok Chaiyapa and her cabbie boyfriend were taken to the site, near the 25km marker on Bang Na-Trat, by police, who hoped it would encourage them to confess." Thais never kill foreigners, time for RTP to find some migrant workers from Burma and make them confess the murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bander Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> No Thai could possibly commit such a crime. alt=wai2.gif width=20 height=20> alt=wai.gif width=20 height=20> Agree, possible Burmese workers is behind the murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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